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Star Trek VS Star Wars

Started by Maddi, December 01, 2010, 06:51:58 AM

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Choose your side! Which is better?

Star Trek
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Star Wars
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Roll

I like both a lot, but overall... I dunno, Star Wars feels like it has a larger scope to to everything, and I like that. Particularly with certain expanded universe stuff like the Old Republic time line. Plus, I've been a cliche Boba Fett lover forever.

Though honestly, I sort of preferred Stargate to both. I just always liked Stargate.
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Christy Lee

For me its like

Star Trek > Stargate > Star Wars

I love all of them really
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Sephirah

I've never really been into Star Wars all that much. I prefer Star Trek, and especially the reboot movies that have been made recently. I love those. I think the new crew gels wonderfully, and Chris Pine has really got into the Kirk role. Although Anton Yelchin will be sorely missed.

Not to mention both Zachary Quinto and Sofia Boutella are kinda hot. :embarrassed:

I've seen those three movies several times now, and honestly I could re-watch them any time.
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Quote from: Sephirah on January 21, 2018, 01:39:20 AM
I've never really been into Star Wars all that much. I prefer Star Trek, and especially the reboot movies that have been made recently. I love those. I think the new crew gels wonderfully, and Chris Pine has really got into the Kirk role. Although Anton Yelchin will be sorely missed.

Not to mention both Zachary Quinto and Sofia Boutella are kinda hot. :embarrassed:

I've seen those three movies several times now, and honestly I could re-watch them any time.

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Kylo

One thing I do like about Trek is the vision of the future. Earth has solved its major problems, and humans proved themselves worthy to be a part of a wider universe and go exploring. That the crew of the ships are sort of like, still human (or alien, but clearly relateable to) but obviously live in an environment where they all work toward something together and use their brains seems wonderfully outlandish.

I like the Mass Effect world, too, sort of in between Trek and SWars.
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Roll

Quote from: Sephirah on January 21, 2018, 01:39:20 AM
I've never really been into Star Wars all that much. I prefer Star Trek, and especially the reboot movies that have been made recently. I love those. I think the new crew gels wonderfully, and Chris Pine has really got into the Kirk role. Although Anton Yelchin will be sorely missed.

Not to mention both Zachary Quinto and Sofia Boutella are kinda hot. :embarrassed:

I've seen those three movies several times now, and honestly I could re-watch them any time.

I was a little disappointed in them. The first one was excellent as the start of a new timeline. Second one then was amazing for the first... 80% of the movie or so, but dear god was that ending anti climatic. (Also thought the attempt at a wrath of khan parallel was a little on the lame side, was unnecessary and they didn't even stick with it.) Beyond was a bit of the reverse of 2 for me, in that I thought the bulk of the movie was just a string of missed opportunities (there was so much mystery ignored with the ancient civilization), but then after stuff started to fall into place with Idris Elba it got really good near the end. Still, not quite enough for me to be particularly happy with the movie, Simon Pegg has written far better stuff.

Quote from: Viktor on January 21, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
I like the Mass Effect world, too, sort of in between Trek and SWars.

I love that feel to the world of ME as well. That is part of the attraction to the Old Republic era games for me, where the Star Wars world very much has that feel to it (which the first was the same Bioware team and the direct precursor for ME). I still haven't been able to make myself play Andromeda after the ending to 3 though. (I hadn't read anything about the ending before hand to avoid spoilers, and completely independent of the growing community anger at the time, I was just honestly furious. I played ME1 and 2 so freaking much it is ridiculous, loved every second of 3 up until the very end... then just... that.)
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Kylo

Honestly I haven't played 3 or Andromeda properly yet. I heard about the fans hating on them, for the ending of 3 and the quality of Andromeda and have just decided not to bother with for now. ME1/2 though - loved them. I kind of wish they'd stretched the "find Saren" plotline out over 3 games and had other things going on in between rather than the story they finally went with.
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Cassi

Quote from: Viktor on January 21, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
One thing I do like about Trek is the vision of the future. Earth has solved its major problems, and humans proved themselves worthy to be a part of a wider universe and go exploring. That the crew of the ships are sort of like, still human (or alien, but clearly relateable to) but obviously live in an environment where they all work toward something together and use their brains seems wonderfully outlandish.

I like the Mass Effect world, too, sort of in between Trek and SWars.

Good point, well taken.  I like to think that we have matured as a species and sometimes that's true.  However, we have countries and some peoples that are still in the stone age mentally and view power as what's good and subjecting other also.
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Devlyn

We're watching Deathstar Galactica this morning...<running away>
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RabbitSpectre

Quote from: Devlyn on October 07, 2018, 04:05:46 AM
We're watching Deathstar Galactica this morning...<running away>

XD XD XD

This is such a hot button topic. Honestly, I think they are, and were trying to be, very different things, Star Wars and Star Trek.

I enjoy Star Wars, yet I actually always had a hard time taking Star Wars seriously, as it had an immaculate lack of any empirical science or backstory cohesiveness at all. We know virtually very little other than a classic story of a tyrannical regime being fought by a resistance, with a few different key players, just on a galactic scale.

Weapons, walker's, fighter's, etc designs are ridiculous in Star Wars, and are competely and utterly tactically devoid of reason, making the entire scenario highly unrealistic. Transportation vehicles of all kinds seem like something people in the 1800's would think of, not in the 20th century. Also how most species and groups beyond jedi and central storyline races seem, and are painted as completely stupid, etc,  I could go on for quite a long time. I just can't take it seriously.

Star Wars, much like the original Star Trek series, to me, is like an older James bond movie (when people were still allowed to actually have fun watching one and the writing wasn't dry as 3 million year old terd sitting in death valley) It was meant to be fun, a thrill-ride, a nice adventure that inspired the imagination, yet usually sexist or in some way ethically flawed, and its creativity was only in show, rather than substance.

Does it make for a great series to watch and eat snacks? Certainly! Does it cary pleasant nostalgia for some people? I'm certain it does.
Would I ever rewatch any of them like I do with Star Trek? No, because I don't see anything there worth gleaning again. 


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Alice V

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I tried to watch Star Trek (old one). Though back then I found it a little boring I liked that athmosphere of adventuring, exploration, space pioneering, first contacts and etc. New movies are lacking this I think, it's more just sci-fi action.

As for Star Wars... Well, first trilogy looks a little stupid (sorry fans, I know somebody grown up on watching and reading SW but not me), second trilogy have beautiful saberfighting, and it's pity that they decided to stop making movies, I wish third trilogy exist (sarcasm). In Star Wars I hate one damn thing - it's too black vs white. Bioware changed it a little in it's games though.

So, what do I choose? Despite all cons, I'd choose SW right now. But likely it's because I more familiar with it (and I extended my knowledge beyond movies - KoTOR 1&2, SW: TOR, Clone Wars, some books). I see potential of this universe and even realise it once in one forum RPG.
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KathyLauren

Definitely Star Trek.

Quote from: Kylo on January 21, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
One thing I do like about Trek is the vision of the future.

^^^ This.

I liked the original Star Wars movie because it was fresh and new when it came out.  I was a young student pilot and watched it with my pilot friends.  We almost orgasmed at the scene where Luke flies the X-wing into the canyon on the Death Star.  I think I saw the second movie, but I never watched the others.

Star Trek, on the other hand is immortal.  Sure the special effects in the original series are hokey, but it gave us immortal lines like "He's dead, Jim,"  "Engage" (TNG) etc.  The vision of a cooperative Federation with high ideals and no money-grubbing was fresh and influential at the time, and is still relevant today.
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DustKitten

Star Wars is a fantasy with sci-fi elements, and Star Trek is science fiction with a few fantasy elements. That's the first main difference between them.

The other is this: Star Wars presents a much darker picture of humanity than Star Trek. The Star Trek Universe represents the writer's best hopes for humanity, it's meant to be an example of what we could become if we improved as a species, of everything that we could potentially achieve. Humanity in Star Wars is portrayed as warlike and imperialistic, annexing and conquering countless worlds and species and tearing themselves apart through internal conflict, whereas in Star Trek, humanity has moved past its darker ambitions and embraced alien life as something that should be respected and understood. Alien species are never absorbed into the Federation, they're equal partners with humanity. Want and poverty have been eradicated, and even money is barely needed in a society that makes use of replicators.

I think the closest Star Wars gets to being as good as Star Trek is in the Timothy Zahn books, which technically aren't even canon anymore, so idk if those should count.

I second/third Viktor and Roll: Mass Effect was an EXCELLENT blend of the SW/ST styles. I was a little disappointed with Andromeda, but I still finished it, because I love that world, too.
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Alice V

QuoteI second/third Viktor and Roll: Mass Effect was an EXCELLENT blend of the SW/ST styles. I was a little disappointed with Andromeda, but I still finished it, because I love that world, too.
I just decided not to mention this because topic was created for SW and ST, but yeah, I love ME more than this two universe.
And Andromeda was ok. Not super, but ok.
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Veronica J

Ok my turn..

For me Star Trek is tops, you can get really involved and know the characters for each series, movies and well space travel for something other than galactic domination. and well Spock !! not to mention the awesome star ships.

Star Wars was good, and I have watched the movies several times and i like them from ep 4 till the last one. hated 1-3, many of the things in star wars the ridiculously huge ships and like small amount of firepower brought to bare. I always went huh? and being a WW2 fan, i easily spotted all the WW2 weapons that have been modified for the films, esp the original films.

best series i have ever seen, and watch once a year is the new battlestar galactica, great story, awesome character development. loved the ending, hated the president.... and the final five.. oh boy..

later off to watch battlestar errr star trek..
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Alice V

Quotebest series i have ever seen, and watch once a year is the new battlestar galactica, great story, awesome character development. loved the ending, hated the president.... and the final five.. oh boy..
Yeah another great series :) And perhaps quite actual for current humanity, we can invent AI pretty soon I think. When we'll have neccessary tech it'll be only matter of time until it will be created officialy or coded by some noname just because he's enthusiastic enough.

Also watched Caprica prequel, but it was boring :(
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Veronica J

Quote from: Alice V on October 07, 2018, 04:49:22 PM
Yeah another great series :) And perhaps quite actual for current humanity, we can invent AI pretty soon I think. When we'll have necessary tech it'll be only matter of time until it will be created officially or coded by some noname just because he's enthusiastic enough.

Also watched Caprica prequel, but it was boring :(

i liked blood and chrome  :)
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CynthiaAnn

I grew up with Star Trek TV, but I thought the Star Wars movies were better.

special mention to "Space 1999" (moon base alpha)
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Jillieann Rose

I have always liked Star Trek but I love the Star Wars movies.
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