Can Men Breast Feed A Baby ???

[cynthialee]

I was opposed to trying human milk then many years ago one of my lovers was lactating and natural curiosity took over.

[Cindy]

I'm having this interesting day dream of going to the Erocse's for tea, and being offered a cup as Erocse whips out her breast and says one pump or two.

Cindy

[sarahla]

It is interesting but in reading these posts, I read it with much interest and also the following two thoughts, one that I can really lactate one day and how I would feel (awesome!) and two trying to imagine drinking my own milk (or anyone else's for that matter).  That being said, I have no trouble going to Ralph's or Vons and purchasing a gallon of milk and using it in many things or buying yogurt, all from cows that did what you described.

The closest that I got to a real cow farm was driving on I-5 past the Grapevine.  it is impossible to not know that you are driving past a cow farm.  My suggestion to anyone driving past one is to turn off air coming from the outside, and preferably make sure that the car is perfectly sealed with no possibility of outside air coming in for ten miles in either direction.  I can only imagine actually being there, so yes human milk is healthier (designed for humans) and cleaner.

I think that I rather be ignorant and just think of cow milk originating in a carton or plastic bottle.

Yeah, I am definitely looking forward to lactating one day.  I watched the videos posted and they looked like fun.

Yes, I would love to have a baby and nurse it.  I guess that it is quite a bonding experience.

According to the woman on the video it is not 2-3 days for men but rather pumping several times a day for 20-minutes each time for 2 to 3 weeks.  She was not specific on what "several" means.  I thought 4 times.

Question:  My breasts never fully developed because I was taken off of hormones.  I do want to go back on hormones, so I presume my breasts will finish developing then.  If I were to try pumping and get breast milk, would that interfere with breast development later on or are those two things independent of each other?

[sarahla]

If I wind up liking my own milk and I get to start lactating, it would be funny to whip out a breast and add some milk to my hot tea by squeezing a few drops.  The idea starts to grow on me.  I have to get used to it.  I definitely look forward to lactating one day.  Yup.

[caitlin_adams]

So we can express milk, but does anyone know if nutritionally it would be sufficient to sustain a newborn? Would the fact that we take hormones androgen antagonists harm the baby in any way?

I dream of having a baby carried to term by a surrogate mother. The idea that I could breast feed my own baby boy or girl is pretty amazing.

[cynthialee]

Caitlin;
I do npt know the answers to that but I do know a transwoman who nursed babies.

[erocse]

Breast milk is produced on a demand basis. The more demand that an infant places on the breast , the more milk that is produced.

   For one reason or another some genetic girls, not often, but sometimes can not produce enough milk to sustain an infant. Likewise some trans women may not be able to produce enough to sustain an infant. Especially if the trans women has not achieved proper breast development due to age, improper hormone dosage or other factors.

    But to answer the question, Yes a trans women can breast feed and sustain an infant.

   To answer another question. Milk production does interfere with breast development. Not in the overall development but since milk production and breast development are two different process. Only one can take place at any given time. Which means, if you wish to lactate, breast development will cease during that time period. But will resume after lactation is discontinued. There are some people that have suggested . To achieve complete female breast development one must have gone through the lactation process at least once in their life time. The reasoning behind this is that the milk duct system in an genetic female or a trans women does not fully develop until lactation is initiated. I guess you can say "milk it does a body good"

   Hugs , Erocse

ps. I like to see other peoples weirdness, it make me feel not quite as alone.

     

[Mrs Erocse]

Very good Erocse. You know I believe everyone is weird. The only ones you have to be afraid of are the ones who cannot admit it. 

[Sandy]

This whole thread has certainly opened my mind in areas I thought would never be opened.

Not a bad thing, but just unexpected.  I thought I was way passed being startled.

Ok, let's up the ante, shall we?

Some of you have added breast mild to tea, coffee, and have even cooked with it.  Has anyone made ice cream?  It would take a lot, but have any of you either put some of it in the ice cream, or gelato machine???

I'm not sure I want to know, but what the hell, eh?

-Sandy

[erocse]

This whole thread has certainly opened my mind in areas I thought would never be opened.

Not a bad thing, but just unexpected.  I thought I was way passed being startled.

Ok, let's up the ante, shall we?

Some of you have added breast mild to tea, coffee, and have even cooked with it.  Has anyone made ice cream?  It would take a lot, but have any of you either put some of it in the ice cream, or gelato machine???

I'm not sure I want to know, but what the hell, eh?

-Sandy

Ouch !!! my breasts feel sore just thinking about the amount it would take to do that.

  Hugs, Erocse

[Mrs Erocse]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. 

[cynthialee]

I am not curently producing enough milk to do anything with it. My production has slowed down.
I am not so sure you are right about lactating preventing boob growth. I have been lactating pretty much the last 10ish months and my boobs have grown plenty in that time.

[erocse]

I am not curently producing enough milk to do anything with it. My production has slowed down.
I am not so sure you are right about lactating preventing boob growth. I have been lactating pretty much the last 10ish months and my boobs have grown plenty in that time.

When the lactation process is initiated the fat deposits are replaced by the milk that is being produced. So the fullness of the breasts are mostly do to the volume of milk that has been produced. Likewise after lactation ceases there may be a while when you will experience smaller breast then you had before , lactation. Because it takes your body allot longer to redeposit the fat cells that were replaced by the milk production then it did to absorb the residual milk that was produced.

  Allot of what we consider breast growth is simply fat deposits. During lactation the body (for the most part) stops depositing fat in that area. But instead supplies milk to the breasts. That is why during complete lactation the breast feel so hard and not that usual soft texture

   I will make this assumption though, If a person is not initiating "complete" lactation. And simply producing some milk during a partial lactation period. I would imagine the the body may some how juggle the two processes and accomplish both.

  Hugs Erocse

[Colleen Ireland]

These are some vids I made to prove it, they are also pre-boob job so my boobs are just little B's in these vids.
Be aware, these are VERY NSFW !  If you view them make darn sure kids aren't around and what-not.
It's not dirty or pornographic, it's just grown up stuff.

OMG, Dee, this is GREAT stuff!!  I especially liked the middle one.  Wow, nice looking boobs, too.  I am hopeful...

[sarahla]

is a manual pump sufficient and easy enough to use to get the process started?  I understand from people here and the specialist on the video that one has to pump several times a day for twenty minutes each session for 2 to 3 weeks.  Would a manual pump do it and is a manual pumping action fast enough?

Thanks in advance.

[erocse]

Mechanical stimulation, via breast pump or other is quite allot of work and may require a great deal of commitment ,time and effort. If we, being  trans-women have not experienced enough breast development the lobule and duct system may not be mature enough to produce satisfactory results. It can be very discouraging to say the least.

   I don't wish to be discouraging but I also don't want to give anyone the wrong impression. Hrt does not always include Progesterone. If your regime did or does not include Progesterone the lobule and duct system may not ever fully develop.

   Then there is the need for Prolactin which can be produced by the mechanical stimulation of the breasts or it can be produced via Prolactin stimulating drugs such as Domperidone.

   Although there are some lucky ones here. That because of genetics are predisposed to lactation. For these people lactation may simply require minimal stimulation or sometimes even unwanted lactation can commence  by a simple fluctuation in hormone levels. I have also heard of this happening to these type of people by simply wearing a bra that may rub the nipple as to cause enough stimulation to induce lactation.

   Another factor to consider is. During pregnancy some of the female hormones levels raise to a very high level Estrogen, Progesterone Etc. Then at the time of birth the levels take a sudden drop. This action signals the body to start lactation. Until then the high levels of estrogen may keep the milk from dropping ( the let down reflex). So in some cases it may be necessary to mimic this action in order to see satisfactory results.

  Hope this helps, Hugs, Erocse

   

[sarahla]

Yeah, it does.  I did take progesterone during the year (okay, super low dosage first third of that year, as I was starting out), but the rest of that year was normal levels of progesterone and estrogen.  My breasts did not fully develop nor the duct system.  I will need to go back on HRT, which I want to anyways, and then develop my breasts and then ask my endocrinologist to prescribe a prolactine drug, or just give me some, if possible via time-released injection (highly doubtful, but I could ask).

I guess the follow-up question that I had prepared is now meaningless.  The specialist said "20 minutes per session several times a day," but the details were not provided (20 minutes each side or 10 minutes each side for a total of 20 minutes).  I assume the latter, but this question is meaningless now.  Nobody in my family on either side is prone to sudden lactation.  I have never lactated, although I have never done a thing to start lactating.

One day soon, though. :-)

Thanks!

[cynthialee]

My family must have unique genetics then. My sister, my mother and my cousin all started lactating as soon as puberty hit. They all have big breasts. My other sister didnt start lactating until pregnancy but she has never dried up completely, she also has large breasts. Mine has seemed to stop growing right between A and B.
So I will get BA next year and just solve that issue.

[Lee]

This is one of the funnier threads I've seen in a while.  I'm glad you ladies are enjoying yourselves.  I'm just a little ashamed that after two semesters of anatomy and physiology, I had absolutely no clue that this is possible.