Will The Navy's Capt. Owen Honors Be Ousted For His Homophobic Anal Probe Videos

[Shana A]

Will The Navy's Capt. Owen Honors Be Ousted For His Homophobic Anal Probe Videos?

http://www.queerty.com/will-the-navys-capt-owen-honors-be-ousted-for-his-homophobic-anal-probe-videos-20110102/

Captain Owen P. Honors Jr., who commanded the USS Enterprise (the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier) during missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, thought it'd be useful to train his Navy sailors using videos showing women showering together. And men dressed up in drag. And featuring him throwing "->-bleeped-<-" all over theh place. "Over the years I've gotten several complaints about inappropriate material during these videos," says Honors in the introduction. So "->-bleeped-<-s" should "hug themselves for the next twenty minutes." The videos, made in 2006 and 2007, were broadcast to the ship's 6,000 sailors. The Virginian-Pilot notes the videos were shot and edited on the Enterprise, using government equipment. And now the Navy says it's very interested in knowing how all this happened, launching an investigation into Honors' little movie screenings.

[kyril]

This isn't homophobic. This is gay. This is the unpolished, Navy equivalent of a drag show/striptease, pure homoeroticism thinly veiled by enough homophobia to make it "funny" and safe to show around the straight boys.

[spacial]

Can't watch this video because of the bleeping.

OK, so we all know that none of us has ever heard the words being bleeped and to hear them, even once, would damm us all to hell's fire.

But do they need to make the bleeps themselves so offensive? Could they not simply make it silent?

[Lukas-H]

Regardless it still sounds like a pretty offensive thing they've done. I hear that it gets boring in the military sometimes but do they really have to do things like THIS with their time?

[tekla]

Being on board a navel ship is beyond boring, and a lot of this goes way back in navel tradition, and navies are pretty traditional places.

[V M]

Not quite as flamboyant as most but yeah, typical Military humor... And the problem is?

[tekla]

And the problem is?

Civilians got to see it, that's the problem.

[Shana A]

Not quite as flamboyant as most but yeah, typical Military humor... And the problem is?

Our tax dollars are paying for it too....

Z

[tekla]

What did Orwell say?  People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.  And the only think I can add to that is not just violence, but great violence in fact.  So I'll cut them some slack.  They have given up, at least temporarily, almost every freedom and liberty that the rest of us take for granted.  Yeah, it's a bit rough, stupid and all that, I can live with it if they can.

An aircraft carrier is not just some boat, it's a floating city - they are huge. The Big-E has a crew of 5,800 people, under a level of pressure that most people would find very hard to handle.

[V M]

But of coarse you know that military personnel never ever have any free time to goof off because they are all just machines like in the movies and just do boring laborious jobs 24/7 for all the years they are active and naturally couldn't be human or have a sense of humor... How else could they perform the duties that they do? I'm sure that ship must've been just a wreck... How can Mr. & Mrs. Candiedass sleep knowing that such levity exists?

Speaking of tax dollars... It still isn't quite clear how much Pres. Clinton payed Monica Lewinsky

[Vicky]

I have a current naval officer in my family, and I got a quick answer from him when I asked what he was hearing and thinking about it.  He came out with a reply I almost expected

"This captain of that ship has absolute power over the ship and crew, and 'absolute power corrupts absolutely.'"  Its actually a quote from a text book used at the US Naval Academy on ethics of officers, and even they know it doesn't always sink in, until the person is sunk. 

[tekla]

I'm sure glad I didn't grow up in a time of everyone having cameras and video equipment in their pocket. 

[kyril]

Our tax dollars are paying for it too....

Z

You don't want to know what else your tax dollars are paying for.

As tekla says, the problem is that civilians got to see it.