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So, What should they refer to me as ? My mom? My friend?

Started by erocse, January 05, 2011, 09:43:17 AM

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Stephanie.Izann

Quote from: Nicky on January 05, 2011, 02:57:06 PM
I think it is ok if they introduce you as Roxy, but you could add to that "____ is my daughter" and avoid the whole thing of what title to call you.

I think it will be unavoidable Roxy that you look like a lesbian couple. I would refer to my partner as my love, my partner or my wife (if married). Perhaps in the right company my lover.

Well said.
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Ruby

For me, as well, partner is the term of choice. I have one lesbian friend who uses the term friend, but only in one situation: the few places where she is not out, like with her 80-something mom. We live in a state where our rights are protected and we are out in our lives. I suspect that matters to one's decisions. I do not mind being seen as lesbian. In fact, I now choose bisexual as my sexual orientation since I am sexually attracted to my partner whom I consider to be female (as well as trans).

We have 4 kids, the youngest is 19. The three older kids are from my first marriage and have always used my partner's name, so changing the name was no big deal to them, though they enjoy sometimes calling her Mama Chelsea, or addressing letters: Dear Mommas. I do not have a problem sharing the title of Mom. It was different when my kids step-mom wanted to be called Mom. I asked that she discontinue that (and she did). In that case, I felt that the biological connection needed to be honored. The kids were very young at the time, and I wanted them to know who the bio-mom was. But now, sharing the title of Mom with my partner who was their biological dad is a non-issue for me. She is the female parent and our language defines female parent as Mom. I do not need to defend it. I am secure that my children respect the fact that I carried them in my womb and she did not. But I will add that she did change diapers, make tons of peanut butter sandwiches and was the one home when the kids got there after school. I had a bookstore to run; the kids came there after school too, but I was usually too busy to give them much attention. If Chelsea had not been a stay-at-home dad, I might be more unwilling to share the Mom title.

Our youngest, whose biological father was Chelsea, likes to tell new kids he meets that he has two moms. Watching the reaction of the people gives him information about them. Some just ignore the comment;  some say, wow, that's cool. What's that like? He befriends these curious ones with more enthusiasm, though he is a big hearted kid and tries to help others who struggle with the concept as well. I do agree with those who have said that the children need to find the terms that they feel comfortable with. Chelsea shared with our son that it made her feel good to be called Mom, Momma, Mamacita etc but just once. He took it from there.

Peace (a farewell salutation I picked up from our son...),
Ruby
The purpose of life is to be happy.
                  ~ The Buddha
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Al James

My son now calls me Alex (when he remembers) in public and if further clarification is needed then i become 'one of his parents'. For reasons of my own i will never be his dad and so if he needs to call me mum at any stage then thats ok as well. He has started referring to my wife as 'mum' as well so depending on how he is addressing me at the time it can get a bit confusing
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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: spacial on January 05, 2011, 02:17:00 PM
If I were in your position. (and I really wish I was, on several levels), I would suggest Roxy.

A mom is kinda something specific.

Patty is the mom, to you as well  :laugh:

They are grown up, so you know they respect you. You don't need to enforce it with  title.

I understand that, in the US especially, there are many families where a parent is called by their name.

Roxy:

Gotta agree with Spacial on this one, girl.  Sounds like great advice to me. 

Know what?  HRT is majorly agreeing with you!  You've got like 3+ times the endowment I do, and I believe we've been on HRT about the same amount of time ... I'm green with envy!  Rock on, hon! 
Believe.  Persist.  Arrive.    :D



Julie Vu (Princess Joules) Rocks!  "Hi, Sunshine Sparkle Faces!" she says!
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blair

Firstly Roxy I want to say I think you and Patty are just absolutely adorable, and I love the way I see you support each other. I'm a newbie here but it didn't take me long to see that. :)

Now, onto your question. I agree with what many have said here that as far as your kids go you should ask them what they're comfortable with. Mom is a very specific term, sure, but you are a "mother figure" in their lives. Maybe Mama R? They could say my mom's wife. And of course, you could always just be Roxy to them. My wife's step dad, who has always been her father figure, has always been Ken to her, but that doesn't take away from their relationship.
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annette

Hi Roxy

Good to hear from you again.
Great picture btw  with your ears pierced.
Difficult question about what your daughters should call you.
Well, as you can see, you have had a lot of advices, but I'm wondering, did you ever discuss that with your daughters and Patty?
Maybe they can bring something up where everybody is satisfied with.
But, I do agree with you, you need a title, after all your a genetic parent and a loving partner, and you deserve more than the title friend of mom I think.
I hope you can figure it out with them.

A lot of hugs and wisdom

Annette
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BigDEvs

One question. This might be personal, but might help me better understand your situation. Are you and Patty still together, as a couple? Are you significant others or are you just best friends? I think that would really depend on how you introduce her, based on if you are friends or a couple. I have never met a gay/lesbian couple that introduced their partner as a friend UNLESS they felt the company they were in was harmful to their relationship. Usually, it is this is my girlfriend/boyfriend or wife/husband. Honestly, do what is comfortable for both of you!

My girlfriend is almost always referred to as just that. However, I am in a wheelchair and have to deal with a lot of government employees. So, sometimes I just call her my caregiver, because I know they are going to hassle me and her about it. She actually prefers this just so we do not get a barrage of questions. Due to my being on govt. assistance - disability, I have to continuously disclose my former name/gender to these agency employees, which sucks. Some do not care, but some treat me like crap for knowing!

As for your children, I would sit down with them and ask what they should call you. Maybe they could say, "These are my parents, Roxy and Patty" to remove the need for mom or dad being used. Also you could consider variations of mom to not infringe on Patty being called "Mom"

i.e. this is my mom Patty and my mother Roxy

Mum, Mother, Mama, Madre...there is bound to be more variations!

Good luck to you and your family!
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Cindy

Hi Roxy & Patty

What! you two are a couple :o?  Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone >:-)

I've several friends with with adult, late teen children. I think what they call you and Patty is a very private and precious thing. Ask them. Roxy you are their Dad, Father, Old Man  ::). But obviously they love and respect you as well, ask them how they would like to refer to you in private and in public. It is their choice after all.

As for the community; my sister and I would like to introduce ourselves  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:sorry feeling in a laugh mood. I have to admit that introducing your partner was pretty normal. If people think you are lesbian it's there problem. Talk is already though the town so ?

BTW Roxy? where did you get those puppies? I'm so jealous.

Love
Cindy, who is as flat as a pancake :embarrassed:
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