To get back on the subject of face changes, what I read here, I am probably twice your ages. I did notice changes in my face after the third month now on HRT. Softer wrinkle lines, lighter skin tone, thinner beard. My beard cuttings used to fall from the electric shaver into the waste can making tinkling noises on the stiff plastic grocery sack lining. No noise now and the clippings now looks like fine lint in the shaver and floats like down in lint balls now.
I may not get the passable faces you younger girls have due to my age. As a biological female feminizing instructor I read up on the past 2 years says "Age is a cruel masculinizer, even for women".
Men of different cultures have different views on ->-bleeped-<-. I found out from a speaker on Crescent Mounds at a science club meeting a few months ago that the pre-Columbian Native Americans had the fat crescent Moon as the symbol for woman or bears. The bear does have a crescent shape when they are on all fours and the head down during feeding on the ground. A slide showed this. A bear is considered female and fertile due to observations of bear sows going into the den in the fall and emerging in the spring with their spry cubs. The Crescent Mounds here in North America are widespread, star aligned, and all of the cultures at least knew of this. The tribal shamans were considered female even if they were male. The speaker did mention the word"transgender" in this vein.
This talk tied in what my therapist gave me to read back in the late 70's during my fist attempt of transitioning. It said that if a boy in the Native American or the central asian Kirgiz tribe wanted to be a woman, it was allowable, even welcomed. This decision was made only once and they had to live as the other women do, even marry. They took certain herbs to feminize themselves, which later to found to have phyto-estrogens in them. This was observed and noted by some of the first European explorers and fur trappers of the fair-face female looking "Squaw men". Western expansion, smallpox, and Jack Daniels erased a lot of memory of that culture.
Joelene.
