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Do you belive to some magic solution of trans "problem"?

Started by Medusa, February 11, 2011, 01:14:58 PM

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Medusa

Hi,
I want to ask you: Do you belive to some magic solution of your trans "problem"?
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rejennyrated

Quote from: Medusa on February 11, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
Hi,
I want to ask you: Do you belive to some magic solution of your trans "problem"?
Yes - it was called transitioning in childhood and having full SRS in my early twenties. That was for me a magical solution which yielded miraculous results.

But if you mean non medical magic or religion - not a chance.
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Medusa

Quote from: rejennyrated on February 11, 2011, 01:21:55 PM
Yes - it was called transitioning in childhood and having full SRS in my early twenties. That was for me a magical solution which yielded miraculous results.

But if you mean non medical magic or religion - not a chance.
Yes it makes miraculous results, but noone can go back to past and do it soonet. (and SRS still have many drawbacks)
But I want to know if someone other belive to that non medical magic
I from my early teens looking for some occultism solution, like transmigration to girl body and refuse to use "convent" medicine solution
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Debra

Quote from: Medusa on February 11, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
Hi,
I want to ask you: Do you belive to some magic solution of your trans "problem"?

Do I believe in some magic solution to my "trans problem"?

No. There is no magic. Just cold, hard reality. Hormones. Surgery. Hair removal. Loss of family. Loss of spouse. Loss of employment. It's a path that requires a lot of strength and will.

There is no magic instant solution.

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Miniar

I am close friends with a man who's studied "magic" for years.
Practiced traditional ritual magic and created his own path.
Skilled to the point where he has been teaching a catholic minister the art of ritual work.
Skilled to the point where he's the only human being I don't doubt when he talks of "Magic".

And no.

I don't believe you can "magically" change your sex, nor gender.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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rejennyrated

Quote from: Medusa on February 11, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
Yes it makes miraculous results, but noone can go back to past and do it soonet. (and SRS still have many drawbacks)
But I want to know if someone other belive to that non medical magic
I from my early teens looking for some occultism solution, like transmigration to girl body and refuse to use "convent" medicine solution
umm - I transitioned when I was 5. All it took was accepting parents and a lot of determination, and yes I had a little hiccup in my late teens - but basically it was all good.
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Medusa on February 11, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
But I want to know if someone other belive to that non medical magic
I from my early teens looking for some occultism solution, like transmigration to girl body and refuse to use "convent" medicine solution

I do believe there are occult methods to alter the body.  In fact, I'm testing some.

If you expect occult methods to be easier than taking hormones, you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment.  "Body-swapping" is something I doubt happens with any frequency, particularly if both bodies are currently inhabited by consciousness.  I haven't met anyone who has claimed to do it who I didn't believe was a complete liar.

I've been researching occultism for years, and I think alchemy holds the greatest possibility of altering the body successfully.  However, alchemy is very time consuming to research, and traditional alchemists use symbols and obfuscation in their texts to prevent the "uninitiated" from understanding the true significance of the philosopher's stone.

While it's true that medical methods have drawbacks, occult methods have even more drawbacks.  The fact that most people who try occult methods eventually turn to hormones and surgery only shows that the occult path is more difficult, not less.  If you expect "magick" to be a quick fix, then occultism is not for you.  In fact, if you expect any quick fix to the trans problem, you have the kind of optimism which I have long since abandoned.  I spent years hoping to find a quick fix, and what I found was a slow fix which works on similar principles to HRT anyway.  The method is just a little different.
"The cake is a lie."
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Pinkfluff

Quote from: Medusa on February 11, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
But I want to know if someone other belive to that non medical magic
I from my early teens looking for some occultism solution, like transmigration to girl body and refuse to use "convent" medicine solution

Magick has little effect on highly physical things like that. I used to imagine switching bodies too, or growing a clone and transferring consciousness, and probably a few other things too, but of course real life doesn't work that way. I do believe in magick, but I also know plenty of science. There's no spell to fix medical problems like this. The magick is in the extraordinary strength that it takes to survive the experience in such a hostile world. If you are lucky enough to have plenty of supportive friends or plenty of money to pay the bills, that is a blessing too.
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ToriJo

From the perspective of an SO...

I believe God put people in my life to teach me that life isn't quite as simple as the church I grew up in would like me to believe, particularly regarding gender.  Without those people in my life, I would have only had the "truth" that was spoon-fed to me in that church and high school biology, and would never have considered a relationship with the woman I married.  So, in a sense, yes, I do think there is a bit of "magic" in my life, and it helped me with my problem (which was a lack of knowledge and understanding; for all I know, He's still working on this!).

Of course others would say that this was just coincidence that I was able to meet with the right people who could show me that things weren't as I was taught.  And it certainly wasn't instant, like magic might be portrayed on TV.  But I can say that sometimes, to change a person, it takes a fortunate coincidence, God, magic, or whatever you call it.

As for my wife's experiences, I can't say for sure, and I'll let those more qualified to speak here.  I can say, if there is a God, it would make sense that He/She can do whatever God wants to do, including magical things.  But I'm still very glad we have modern medicine and that our creator, if any, had the foresight to give us the capacity to learn how to heal each other, because it seems that God doesn't often do a lot of magic.
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