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Androgyne vs genderqueer

Started by rite_of_inversion, March 07, 2011, 11:45:41 PM

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Jaimey

#120
June 13, 2011, 08:19:03 PM
Unicorn...whose missing the "horn."  >:-)  *ba dum dum.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

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Taka

#121
June 19, 2011, 07:20:27 AM
androgyne is to me what the word says, "manwoman". both, but not necessarily in a 50/50 or 70/30 ratio. could just as well be 80/70 or 10/10. gives me the freedom to just be, when i earlier thought i had to choose either or

genderqueer sounds to me more like a way to express gender in some way, be it one or both or the other or whichever. usually i don't come off as, or try to express any gender in particular, even if my sex is easily identifiable, so i'm not sure it's a good term for me to use about myself
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KittyLondon273

#122
June 21, 2011, 02:39:46 AM
I use the term genderqueer more often.  I have always understood it as (while it can apply to an individual in their own unique way) it means someone who may or may not identify with their birth gender, and expresses themselves not by traditional means of gender.  Like a boy who likes wearing makeup and boys clothes, or a boy who identifies as a girl, but likes to dress like a dyke. 

Androgynous I always thought meant like you cannot tell what gender they are by looking at them or they dress very in between.  However since I have been on this Androgynous forum I have found that Androgynous can be used to mean that and other non transsexual gender variant identities.
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KittyLondon273

#123
June 21, 2011, 02:43:04 AM
Genderfudge I usually see as just another made up identity that means the same as like genderqueer, and just is a more rebellious thing to call someone.

As far as queer being seen as an insult.  In High School I was called queer and ->-bleeped-<- alot.  Well ->-bleeped-<- other than meaning a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, was not used to refer to gay people in any way but an insult.  Queer however, means different or strange, or unique, or gay, or LGBT.  So I like the word queer.  I can call myself queer without having to conform to some specific way of being different.
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Pica Pica

#124
June 21, 2011, 12:08:46 PM
Quote from: KittyLondon273 on June 21, 2011, 02:39:46 AM
I use the term genderqueer more often.  I have always understood it as (while it can apply to an individual in their own unique way) it means someone who may or may not identify with their birth gender, and expresses themselves not by traditional means of gender.  Like a boy who likes wearing makeup and boys clothes, or a boy who identifies as a girl, but likes to dress like a dyke. 

Androgynous I always thought meant like you cannot tell what gender they are by looking at them or they dress very in between.  However since I have been on this Androgynous forum I have found that Androgynous can be used to mean that and other non transsexual gender variant identities.

But, if you notice, we are not calling ourselves androgynous, we are calling ourselves androgyne.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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KittyLondon273

#125
June 21, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
I see.  Well don't they have the same definition?  I thought Androgyne was like used to refer to the way of being itself, and androgynous is how you describe a person.
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Pica Pica

#126
June 21, 2011, 04:04:14 PM
There tends to be a different definition.
Personally, I see it thus...

An androgyne is a noun, meaning a person who feels neither male nor female, or a blend of both or something else.
Androgynous is an adjective describing a look that is usually pointy chinned and elflike.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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KittyLondon273

#127
June 21, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
Hahaha.  Elf like?  You so crazy!  I know what you mean though.  However really words are what you make of them.  That is why it is dumb when people argue over what words are okay to use and not okay to use.  Not that, that is what you are doing, that was just an example.  Haha.  <3
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Pica Pica

#128
June 22, 2011, 12:05:36 AM
If words were what we made of them, we wouldn't be able to communicate at all.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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KittyLondon273

#129
June 22, 2011, 12:13:50 AM
Well I meant generally.  Like that is how slang works.  Someone can say you look sick.  It could mean disgusting, it could mean ill, or it could mean cool.  When it is originally used to mean ill or so that is how it was most commonly used back in my day.  Haha.  You know way back in nineeeteeen ninety eight!
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ativan

#130
June 22, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
Applying odd definitions to words makes them fairly useless in communication. Slang is deception. People use it to try and one up the social ladder by using it.
The weird and basicly useless slang words always fall to the way side, as do some climbing that social ladder. Oops! missed a rung.
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