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Long term relationship with FTM - PLEASE HELP!!

Started by WorkingAtIt, April 01, 2011, 07:29:24 PM

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WorkingAtIt

Hi all. I'm new the forum and just need advice I guess. Or input, maybe to hear from people that have gone through this. Something. I'm at my wits end. This is going to be long but I really really appreciate anyone for reading it.

I've been in a relationship with a FTM for three years now, almost four. We were very happy together. I believed him when he said he loves me, and I love him so much. I wanted our relationship to work. I still do, I just can't take the bs anymore. The problems we've been having have escalated within the past six months in particular.

He started hormones a few months before I met him, so it's been about four years now. He's said before that the doctor keeps her patients on the lower end of the scale as far as dosing and the amount of T when he gets tested. Not sure if/how much it matters.

We've had issues for awhile now. Just recently (maybe also six months ago) I finally realized that I was not the cause of problem in this relationship. It takes two to tango and I believed that our issues were caused by OUR actions. I realized that I was incorrect. I thought about it and realized it wasn't me. It was his actions, accusations, and words that had damaged us. But no matter how much and what techniques I tried to explain it to him, to at least make him understand where I was coming from, he just didn't care. Everything was my fault and I was to blame. He will tell me he does nothing wrong by me, when I 'throw my hands up' and say that "yes, I've done everything wrong" he retaliates with the "no you don't it's both of us". When I try to tell him why I feel like I do he tells me he doesn't treat me like that...vicious circle. I've since stopped playing into it.

The middle of last year I had to block him from my facebook because he was stalking a friend of mine. Going out of his way to get his information because I was talking to him online. He got his phone number and full name and email to start harassing and threatening my friend. Because he thought I was cheating on him and that my friend wanted to kick his ass. I live in PA. My friend is a celibate monk and lives across the country in ID. The whole thing was ridiculous. But my friend's name kept coming up every week, by my boyfriend, who I just concluded was obsessed about him. It was obnoxious, hurtful, and destroyed me every time he brought it up. Considering how far apart we live, that should have been enough. Since then he's moved onto other friends of mine, usually also across the country. In February I invited him to dinner with a married couple who were friends of mine and that caused him to take a dunk in the deep end as well. I asked him if he'd like to come to dinner with us during the week sometime in the afternoon. At 11PM as I'm getting ready to lie in bed for the night he demands to know who this friend is and if he was going to have to tolerate watching me flirting all night with a stranger while he paid for my dinner. Obviously, this was upsetting to me for a number of reasons. That escalated to us not speaking for a couple weeks.

The week before Thanksgiving he started a major fight and we didn't speak through the holiday. Then it was ok for a few days and we had another fight in the beginning of December. We didn't speak for a week and then I get text messages from him, very erratic, demanding his bb gun back. Saying I should drop it off at his house, then if I didn't he was picking it up at 9PM, then to leave it outside my door for his 9PM visit. At 7PM he came over banging on my door to which I didn't answer because of how he was acting. I sure as hell wasn't leaving a gun (fake or not) outside my door for a few hours. When I didn't answer the door he got enraged and keyed every panel on my truck – costing over $3000 in damages that I will never recoup because he doesn't have the money. I still have all the texts and emails he sent and photos of my truck. We didn't start speaking outside of nasty emails until the middle of January. A couple ok weeks and then we didn't speak much of February.

About a month ago I had to take my dog to an emergency appointment an hour away. I borrowed his car. As I was walking out of the office I had called him to let him know what happened and I was on my way home. I texted him on the ride back saying I was starving and craving pizza hut. That flew him into a rage because it meant I was out having an affair. He claimed I didn't tell him what happened with the appointment, had lied about it, ect. Returned the car at 8:40 and just came home for the night. At 10 I get an email from him saying that I had dropped my work phone inside his apartment. I tell him I'm coming over to get it and then he tells me I had made a phone call to someone (I forget who) at 9:30. He got (emotionally) violent about it, and argued with me about it. Saying he took the sim card out of my phone and copied all the information, and that I had made that phone call. I asked how the hell I did that because I didn't have my phone between at least 8:40 and 10 but he wouldn't answer, just kept insisting he had the information. That it was proof of an affair.

My main issue are these delusional accusations and his emotional violence. It's extreme and it's torn us apart. When he's stable it's great and I couldn't ask for more. He's nice, he loves me, and I feel like we could be together forever. A few weeks ago (after the phone thing) I guess one of his friends defended me or at least got it into his head that it really is HIM causing us to destruct and he's the one being "bipolar" (for lack of better terms).

On Tuesday he had an appointment with his doctor because he wanted a referral to a neurologist. She told him that she sees a lot of FTM patients that go through similar. She wanted him to put him on ritalin but he has to get an "official" diagnosis first (which means weeks more waiting for meds...).

On Wednesday a CONDOM fell out of his wallet. We have NEVER used condoms (nor does he have equipment for it...) and I just completely fail to see why he has one. His first story was that he's had it forever but I checked the expiration and it's new. Then the story changed to him picking it up at the clinic when he saw his doctor and that "all guys keep a condom in their wallet." (This may just be my experience, but imo guys do NOT keep a condom in their wallet and just try to get the girl to have sex anyway because no one likes condoms.)  After a couple minutes I was still upset over it but decided to believe him. Just wasn't worth the energy to not think he was telling the truth and it's not like we spent a lot of time apart (in the past few weeks when things have been calm).

Also on Wednesday night I had a pair of heels in my living room floor that I had brought up from cleaning the basement to put in the basket with the rest of my shoes. I haven't worn them in years and they're the only pair I have. I'm not feminine in nature, nor do I wear feminine things. We often joke that if I wore a skirt/heels it'd be like me crossdressing. But I've been on a mission to clean the house so the shoes were upstairs. Last night he got into one of his fits and said he was leaving. I thought it was good and maybe he realized he was being emotional and was leaving to prevent a fight. I was wrong and instead he sat brooding on the couch for about ten minutes before attacking me about who I was appeasing with the heels. Its gotten to the point that I don't speak during these attacks and I wait it out. It's not worth talking because he'll just accuse me no matter what the facts are (like the phone). A few minutes later I opened the door and told him to leave. I physically had to push him out and slam the door to lock it. He was so nasty and demanding to know who I was wearing the heels for. Because of the truck incident I always watch him leave when he's like this. When he got to the sidewalk he yelled back at me that he was calling two of my friends to ask them about it and harass/threaten them so I had the police come over and filed another report and asked that they follow up with him.

The emotional violence he subjects me to is not only unfair, but I just can't take it anymore. He is so extremely nasty to me. He makes crazy accusations (like having an affair with someone across the country, or making phone calls when I don't even physically have my phone) and it HURTS. To be frank, he treats me like ->-bleeped-<- when he's like this. The past couple weeks it seemed like he was making an effort. He stayed home on nights where he felt it coming and apologized in the mornings when he's been an ass.

My questions are...is this really typical for FTM??? Do things usually have a tendency to get so nasty and neurotic? With the right medication could this be "fixed"? Is there any hope or am I right in completely cutting him off and trying to heal myself from this? I've never been more happy with anyone in my life, but these issues...these outbursts...I can't do it anymore. This morning I sent him an email telling him to not contact me again and he hasn't responded, so I know he's lucid and probably very sorry. He's never not responded, whether in a fit or not. He's ALWAYS had to have the last word.

I might just be having some wishful thinking that he's actually sorry. But if he was still raging I don't think the hateful emails would have stopped by now.

Please help? Thoughts? Anything??
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WorkingAtIt

I have no idea why ritalin and it surprised me that she said that. She also said that this was common for FTM, though. Or at least that she has other FTM patients going through this. :( My boyfriend used to be taking lithium, which he had to stop when he moved north for whatever reason he couldn't get it prescribed again. I was thinking he would be given lithium for these issues as that would make sense to me. And no, he would never skip doses of T, nor have they been modified in any way that I know of in the past year. A couple years ago he switched from a shot to a cream but he needed to switch back to shots because I realized the cream was getting on me.

I didn't know him pre-transition so unfortunately I don't have much to compare to. There were some minor things in previous years that I chalked up to him just going through a second adolescence. While they caused problems, they weren't like this. Even so, these issues seem to have been happening all along and are just coming into full bloom the past six months.


The condom ticked me off, but yes. I did figure it was him being insecure. He's been more secure lately (past year or so) with me so it's been awhile since I've seen him do things like that 'just because'. What I didn't like was that he first lied about it (combined with his constant accusing me of having affairs.......) but that thing is minor compared to the rest. Really not fair how he can just have a mysterious condom in his wallet but I can't have a pair of shoes in my living room that I actually have had since high school.  :-\

Thanks for your response.
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Sean

None of this is "normal" FTM behavior, nor is it attributal to taking a standard dose testosterone. Some people do have irritability and moodiness as they adjust to cross-hormone therapy, but absent any other underlying disorder, it does NOT result in violence, property damage or abusive behavior.

Lithium is a standard medication for treating bipolar disorder. It is a mood stabilizer.

It sounds like you may want to seek support in a forum or community of people who are in relationships with (or leaving relationships with) people who have mood disorders.
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some ftm guy

i agree with Sean, this sounds like mental illness/mood disorder or some kind of past trauma from abuse or something. maybe he was cheated on before by someone before he met you? it really bothers me that a licensed doctor said that was normal ftm behavior when every reliable ftm resource says T DOES NOT do that to us. there's a difference between normal guy insecurity and the treatment you described that you get from him, definitely something else entirely going on and i hope he gets the help and medication he needs.
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WorkingAtIt

I didn't think it would be classified as normal behavior. If I'm correct even the moodiness associated with starting T should have mostly passed now, after four years? When we first met he was usually moody on the days after his shot, along with extra sleepy, and that was it.

He did admit to me a few weeks ago that he had been cheated on by the first girl he loved "as much as he loves me" but to be frank, I don't really care. It was just one more excuse to justify his nasty behavior toward me. Its been story after story with all the "reasons" he treats me like he does.

I'm so sorry it has come to this...
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kristiegregory22

Honestly, I'm going through the beginning stages of ftm with my now husband who I've Ben with for almost four yrs as well (8-16-16)and I can say that transgender ppl go through mind emotions (what I call it) because of all the pressure and stress of transitioning and the problems they are thinking of (what ifs)  about themselves and its sometimes start to affect their relationship while they are in transformation. Now I can say its kind of like and insecurity (my opinion, im no expert) because they have hormones and testosterone which is like a  battle field n their minds and body right now. Maybe you can try to sit down with him and have a grown up positive self reassuring conversation to see how he feels about what he is going through . sometimes my husband can't explain it so I just give him lots of hugs and kisses to reassure  my love for him. (Comforting your mate is the number one thing to do at times like these)  If I'm not mistaken I think u said yall ate far away from one another? Maybe that's the reason. He may need your love , attention, and affection more than ever. Maybe he feels alone and just needs u by his side. ..

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Kylo

Moodiness is one thing, treating your significant other like ->-bleeped-<- is another.

One way to make the other person think about how bad they are acting is to record a spat on a phone or some other device. Then show it to them when they are not in a mood, and explain why this is unacceptable and unfair.
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