what is the downside of Dr. Suporn's technique

[amandax]

I am still struggling to make the selection between Dr, Suporn, Dr. Brassard and Dr. Meltzer, now I am a little toward Dr. Suporn since I really like his result which to me is more close to genital female than other two whose are also good to me. I read through Dr. Suporn's SRS presenation which seems a good technique. 

but I just wonder if his technique is so good, why don't other doctors to adapte it? specia those NA doctors. why others still use penile inversion? Are there any concern on Dr. Suporn's approach raised by other doctors. I saw some post mentioned that his technique is more complicated, and need more recover time and effort, does this means this technique will bring more damage to the body and impact your long term health?  are there any good site with good pro/con comparison between these two technique? thx.

Like to make decision soon so I can book my day, just can't wait.

[wyel]

Hi Amanda~ I read you message, but I don't have enough level to reply it, so please allow me to reply here, and hope my experience be useful for any girl who is considering Dr. Suporn

I have had my surgery by Dr. Suporn last month's 21 and still stay at Chonburi. I'm not very aware of the recovery time of other surgeons, but Dr. Suporn's technic requires 1 year for everything settles down. During this year, You must do dilation 3~1 times per day. (I have to say the dilation is really very painful...)

And last night I do heard a German girl said there's a Dr in Germany who uses similar technic as Dr. Suporn.

Hope this be helpful for you

[Birdie]

Wyel is right about the two main negative factors of Dr Suporn's technique. Recovery can take a long time and you may be out of work for a few months. Dr Suporn uses a different dilating method compared to western doctors called active dilation or dynamic dilation. For patients of other doctors the dilation routine is fairly simple and only requires you to hold the dilator in place for a set period of time. Patients of Dr Suporn need to apply constant pressure for about 20 seconds, then "stir" the dilator to widen the opening (sorry, TMI) for 20 seconds, and repeat for ten to fifteen minutes with each size dilator. Doing this three to four times a day for the first few months can be very difficult and painful. The pain subsides eventually, and I only dilate once every three to four days now.

If you think you can cope with those first few difficult months, then Dr Suporn is an excellent choice.  I'm so glad I had my operation with him, but obviously I may be a little biased. 

[wyel]

in fact I think the dynamic dilation is less painful than static dilation for me. But different person may have totally different feeling. And it is said the 2nd and 3rd month after surgery will be the most difficult.

[blackMamba]

I never had my surgery with Dr. S, but I consistently hear the recovery time takes longer.

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but to encourage other discussion:  for anyone who has had surgery with Suporn, does his technique always involve skin grafts from other areas of the body?

[amandax]

why it take longer time to recover? is it mainly because the dilation, or the operation is so complicated which make your body take longer time to recover? I jus wonder the main difference between Dr. Suporn's technique and the NA doctors are using different skin in same area, which should not have much impact on your whole body and energy recover but may be that particular area need longer time to settle down. 

Since i have some flexibility to work from home, do you think I will be able to resume my work after one month op? I am pretty healthy with regular exercise (training for Marathon), will that help to reduce my recovery time?  Just can't be out of work for too long and don't want to lose the job.

also will this long healing process to prevent you to having sex for a long period time after surgery?

[wyel]

I'm not very sure about the reason, but I think most of the recovery time is dedicated to dilation which  can keep your depth and width during the first year. And after the first year, you may need do dilation only 2 or 3 times a week.

If your body is strong enough, and as you can work at home, I think your recovery may be much faster than me, and you are almost sure to be able to go back to your work very soon. I think the most major thing that may prevent one from returning to regular life is the schedule of everyday's dilation. For me, because my pain threshold is very low, so I have to do dilation very slowly, and it costs me lots of time (about 2 hours for each time). But of course you may not need so much time

[wyel]

I never had my surgery with Dr. S, but I consistently hear the recovery time takes longer.

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but to encourage other discussion:  for anyone who has had surgery with Suporn, does his technique always involve skin grafts from other areas of the body?

I'm not sure, but I think so. If my memory is correct, the instruction book given by the clinic says the skin of vagina is essentially skin graft.

[Birdie]

I haven't heard of any patients ever needing skin grafts from other areas, from what I understand he only ever uses the usual material. There may be cases that require grafts from other areas, but I'm certain he can usually guarantee at least 6 inches for a patient without grafts from the thighs or buttocks like other surgeons.

[wyel]

I'm sorry it seems I misunderstand the phrase "other areas"

[blackMamba]

I'm sorry it seems I misunderstand the phrase "other areas"

Yes, I meant non-genital areas.   

I guess the reason I ask, is that Suporn has a reputation for creating more depth than other surgeons, and he boasts this on his website.  There is only so much skin to harvest in the genital area, depending on what Mother Nature gave you.  And it's my understanding all of the surgeons (the major ones) discard very little tissue. 

So maybe a better question is, for all the girls who went to Suporn, if you didn't get a skin graft, how much depth do you have?  I'm just curious to see if his claim of increased depth is due to harvesting more skin, i.e. skin grafts.  As with Amanda, I'm trying to figure out what differentiates him from the rest.

To Amanda:  if you are working from home, I think one month might be enough time.  If you can squeeze in 6 weeks, I think you will notice a big difference in your energy level.  Being a runner can only help you, that is for sure.  As for sex... my doc said 3 months but I think I could have done it after 1.5-2 months.  Remember to take it easy.  Some docs say 6 weeks, listen to what yours says...

[amandax]

Thanks for your good information. Now, it seems more likely I will go to Dr. Suporn , plus he has some early open slot for the surgery. Just can't wait to get this done.

[Renate]

The concept of a "Chonburi organ" seems very weird to me.

[rejennyrated]

As I perceive it - as an almost outsider to this community, because I was done so long ago that I hardly count now

The plus side of suporn is that when it goes well it looks good and gives maximum depth.

The down side is that the recovery is a fair bit longer, there are about ten times more stitches involved, and when it goes wrong boy oh boy does it go wrong!

In essence it's like a high performance car. Fantastic when it works, but where as other surgeons go for reliability, suporn has gone for the absolute maximum possible performance, which means that you must be prepared for more discomfort in the healing phase and to be really careful to follow his postoperative care instructions to the letter.

I hope that is a fair and balanced summary.

[Michelle.]

Vroooom, vroooom, vrooooom. Sorry, couldn't stop myself.

[Giselle Marie]

So maybe a better question is, for all the girls who went to Suporn, if you didn't get a skin graft, how much depth do you have?  I'm just curious to see if his claim of increased depth is due to harvesting more skin, i.e. skin grafts.  As with Amanda, I'm trying to figure out what differentiates him from the rest.

I'm now 4wks post op from Dr Suporn, I initially lost a 1/2 inch depth on my return home but have now regained it back to 7 1/4 inches through dynamic dilation 3 times a day. I had no skin grafts other what was available from the genital material that I had.

[Kristyn]

I'm now 4wks post op from Dr Suporn, I initially lost a 1/2 inch depth on my return home but have now regained it back to 7 1/4 inches through dynamic dilation 3 times a day. I had no skin grafts other what was available from the genital material that I had.

7.25 inches?  That's insane!!!  What are you digging for gold?    I'm just right at the last dot on the soulsource dilators.  I was about a half inch past the last dot when I first started, but it went down--swelling, I guess.

[Kristyn]

Lol, digging for gold. Thats funny, Kristyn.

I wonder if a factor is height/pelvic bone... I'm 5.7" ft in height.

...maybe all the tall girls are going to Suporn, lol.

I don't know, it would probably be  due to torso length if height is a factor.  I'm around 5'11" - 6' with a short torso and long legs.  I know Melan who used to post on this board went to Suporn and she is taller than me.  I think she got like a foot and half.   

[Elainagirl59]

I had my SRS with Dr Suporn on Dec 7, 2010.  On my first dilation after surgery my depth was 7".  By the time I returned home
on Jan 1, the depth was 6.125".  Currently my depth is consistently 6.75 and occasionally I can hit 7".  Being very honest I am
doing minimal dilation compared to the Dr's reccomendation.  During months 2 and 3 when I should have been doing 3 dilations a day, I was averaging 2.3 dilations per day.  However those dilations were a bit longer than the minimum.  For the 4-6 months Dr recommends 2 dilations per day,  I've been doing 2 short dilations or 1 long dilation per day.

I did not have any skin grafts.  My understanding is that Dr Suporn is able to stretch the scrotal tissue to provide the material for the
vaginal canal.  During the SRS procedure Dr Suporn removes the scrotum.  The scrotal skin is laid out and all the hair follicles are removed.  Once prepared the skin can be stretched and formed into the vaginal canal. 

I am very happy with my outcome and highly reccomend Dr Suporn.  I would be glad to answer any question about my experience.

Elaina

[vanna]

Maybe Suporn rejects all short girls, telling them they arent good candidates...

So, are you Suporn girls tall?

this made me laugh soo much im a supornista and 5,3 almost. much of his clientele is thai, thai girls only come in one height....tiny 

as for grafts i have been to Chonburi a number of times, im yet to meet anyone who had a graft i feel this is getting confuse with you may have a graft with you will have a graft.

post op i was left with 6.5 inches and now maintain just over 6" still, no graft and small pelvis