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Transgender Woman Severely Beaten at Baltimore McDonalds While Employees Watch

Started by Shana A, April 22, 2011, 08:57:01 PM

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Tammy Hope

Quote from: JayUnit on April 23, 2011, 02:15:46 AM
Yeah, it's hard to say how different this story would have been if she was a cisgendered woman. There have been many videos and stories online of women beating the ->-bleeped-<- out of other women while others stand around.

Either way I couldn't even watch half of it. That manager was probably doing the best he could. What more could he do? It would have looked worse on his part socially as a male pushing or punching women no matter what they were doing.

there's a video in circulation of a white (cis)girl being beaten by black girls on a Baltimore Bus last year while the whole crowd watched and laughed.

As much as i'm pissed about the bathroom aspect, the sad fact is that a lot - maybe most - of those around us today WON'T attempt to stop an assault.


Oh, and for a counterpoint - there's another news story today about a fight in a McDonalds (don't remember where) : a man waiting in line broke up a fight between two thugs in the same line, he was told by one of the thugs he wouldn't live to see the morning.

He didn't.
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Da Monkey

Quote from: Tammy Hope on April 23, 2011, 04:08:24 AM
there's a video in circulation of a white (cis)girl being beaten by black girls on a Baltimore Bus last year while the whole crowd watched and laughed.

As much as i'm pissed about the bathroom aspect, the sad fact is that a lot - maybe most - of those around us today WON'T attempt to stop an assault.


Oh, and for a counterpoint - there's another news story today about a fight in a McDonalds (don't remember where) : a man waiting in line broke up a fight between two thugs in the same line, he was told by one of the thugs he wouldn't live to see the morning.

He didn't.


Yeeaaaah. Exactly. As TERRIBLE as it is, who here ACTUALLY would have done something? It's easy want to play hero but when you're in that situation it's a totally different, horrifying story.
The story is the same, I've just personalized the name.
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V M

I think you'd be surprised how many and who would be willing to stand up and step in to stop such violence... If it was your friend being beaten would you just stand there and watch?

It's not about being a hero... How many have done heroic deeds and said that they are not a hero? Rather, they just took action and are glad it went well... Playing the role of a hero was the furthest thing from their minds

It's not about role playing... It's about being who you are 
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Da Monkey

A friend is different than a complete stranger...

I've witnessed a fight at my job before and it's easy to say that you would step in but I just froze up and then left to get a manager while tons of co-workers stood around and laughed.
The story is the same, I've just personalized the name.
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V M

I've witnessed a fight at my job before and it's easy to say that you would step in but I just froze up and then left to get a manager

Even though you didn't step in to stop the violence, you did take action... Taking action doesn't always mean getting in the middle of the melee
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Da Monkey

Quote from: V M on April 23, 2011, 05:37:59 AM
Even though you didn't step in to stop the violence, you did take action... Taking action doesn't always mean getting in the middle of the melee

Yeah that's true. I even yelled at co-workers to get back to work and stop standing around like ->-bleeped-<-s. I would just never physically get in the middle because I know I am not anywhere near strong enough.
The story is the same, I've just personalized the name.
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xAndrewx

Quote from: Birgitta on April 23, 2011, 05:57:35 AM
please sign petition and make a difference for this girl!!

http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-the-employees-on-duty-at-mcdonalds-be-held-responsible-in-the-beating-of-a-trans-woman#signatures

Really not comfortable giving that site my address but thank you for posting it and I'll pass it around in case anyone I know will sign it. I'll be sending a letter to McDonalds however, something does have to be done and I'm glad so many of us on this site can do something about it. 

Nemo

Well, I've signed on that site before, so just done it again - it's a good job I have a strong constitution, but even so it made me sick. Sheesh, I thought things were meant to improve as we advance through the ages, not get worse!


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annette

The petition is signed and the vid makes me vomitting.
So cowardly, two against one.
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Natasha

The Bathroom Predators Are Cis People


http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2011/04/bathroom-predators-are-cis-people.html
4/22/11
Monica Roberts

One of the memes coming from 'white' wing opponents and the haters that are used to attack trans rights bills is that ciswomen would be in danger of violence or sexual assault if transwomen are allowed to use female restrooms like we have since 1953 without incident.

But as the following video shot at a Baltimore area McDonald's shows, they got it bassackwards.   In reality it's transwomen and our cissisters with ambiguous gender cues who have to fear for our lives and our human dignity when we visit public restrooms.   
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Joelene9

  It is a cowardly act.  Those two assailants were probably goaded into what they did by others or from between themselves.  These two girls were probably not raised to respect others as the most of us were.  All I saw was a real-life Jerry Springer experience with real blows with a type of bouncer (WWE wrestling type ref) found on his shows.  I lived in similar neighborhoods and seen this happening growing up.  Almost all of those I know of from that past are either dead or in prison.  I circumnavigate away from one of my old neighborhoods, than to go through it to this day.  I don't wan't to be reminded that I ever lived there.  There are no excuses here, just plenty of blame!
  Joelene
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Lepidoptera

I can't speak about the other employees. They may have been justifiably afraid to intervene for some reason. However, the manager and the employee who took the video really failed Humanity 101.

I saw screen caps of what the cameraman had been posting about the video and it's just absolutely disgusting, hateful, victim-blaming transphobia.
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azSam

They were trying to drag her outside. They would have probably killed her eventually.

If I was there, I would grab the nearest object and bashed some skulls in.

As for the person who took the video. While I would have much rather seen him stop the fight, there is some consolation to be had. He recorded this barbaric attack and made it public. Now the whole world can really see the hate that we have to face daily, all because we're different.

I'm not a superstitious type of person, but karma will come back around and really screw those 2 girls up.
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tekla

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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asher

Quote from: kalshady on April 22, 2011, 11:58:35 PM
This made me sick, like I could probably say not even exaggerating I threw up in my mouth a little...

This scares the ->-bleeped-<- outta me, not necessarily just for myself...but for all of us transpeople.
It scares me too man, I live right down the street from that restaurant :/ Makes me never wanna go out again. And just thinking about this possibly one day happening to any of my trans friends... ugh...
Poor girl. I couldn't even finish the video, just sickening.
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xxUltraModLadyxx

anyway, i'd be willing to bet the two attackers have conduct issues. i think they are school aged from what i read. i really doubt those two girls are just perfect angels, and then they spontaneously gang up on a transwoman, because it's their "responsibility." they are probably the type that mothers are telling their kids not to hang around.
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Joelene9

Quote from: SpaceyGirl on April 23, 2011, 06:02:22 PM
anyway, i'd be willing to bet the two attackers have conduct issues. i think they are school aged from what i read. i really doubt those two girls are just perfect angels, and then they spontaneously gang up on a transwoman, because it's their "responsibility." they are probably the type that mothers are telling their kids not to hang around.
YES! HERE! HERE!  My mom was always checking who we were friends with.  She did allow some latitude, but was strict with our upbringing, especially in that darned housing project we lived in at one time.  My mom won the tug-of-war of several years, of my brother with a real bad apple of his friend at the time after he gave a verbal warning that he would wrest my brother away from her influence!  He and his associates are dead or in prison for life for their lifestyle.  His parents didn't give a hoot what their children did.
  My little brother did fine, thank you.   He raised two daughters and sent them to college, one is not far away from a PhD!
  Joelene
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tekla

have conduct issues

Yeah, that's almost cute.  I suppose Jenna Jamseson has a slight modestly problem and Danica Patrick drives a little bit fast.

They are thugs.  Asocial for sure, psychopathic perhaps and almost feral.  They are right on the line between being put away, and put down.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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