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Started by JungianZoe, April 29, 2011, 10:36:50 PM

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CrazyTina

QuoteI've been on a 4,000- to 5,000-calorie per day diet so that I can get some of the curves I want so badly
:o now that's not healthy!!

That is what we call the wrong way to put on a few pounds....


Check out this site http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
I like to call it the anorexic's toolbox. But your account can be just as easily set up to healthfully gain weight.
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: Citrine Oak on May 01, 2011, 07:02:58 PM
:o now that's not healthy!!

That is what we call the wrong way to put on a few pounds....


Some people burn calories like they were going out of style...I once had a metabolism like that and it also impacted medication requirements.  As an example, my MD knew that where a normal person might need 1000mg of an antibiotic on a daily basis, I may very well find myself taking 1500-2Kmg twice daily for the same result.  I could also eat almost anything I wanted without gaining weight. 

Post-op, I find that metabolisms have slowed down and that I can maintain my current weight with around 2500 calories per day (and while not the best thing for me, easily 1000 of those are from soda consumed in the office).  Could I stand to lose a few pounds, yeah...although those that have known me for years keep telling me I look healthier now at the 150ish range than I ever did when I was in the 119-125 range (I'm just shy of 5'11")...and I refuse to give up either my soda habit or my steak and lobster habits.
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JungianZoe

There's merit to both arguments... such a high calorie intake may not be good in the long run, but I also need such a huge intake to gain weight because of how much I unconsciously burn in a day (on top of already having a lightning-fast metabolism).

I'm a drummer, and I fancy myself a Keith Moon type of drummer.  That means an all-out assault on the drums for prolonged periods of time.  I can't even run 50 feet on account of underdeveloped lungs--the result of growing up with four packs of secondhand smoke a day--but I can drum like there's no tomorrow.  In fact, I can do Keith's fastest stuff for three uninterrupted hours at a pop.

When I'm playing my drums is nearly the only time of day that I'm sitting down.  If I sit down at any other time, I'm always tapping my foot, playing drums on my legs, or simply bouncing both of my legs up and down.  A doctor once told me I probably burn around 500-600 calories a day just by dong that (which seems like a high number until you see just how much I do it).  And I can't tell you how many times I go visit my mom and hear:

"Stop it! The entire floor's shaking!"
"Stop it! The table's shaking!"
"What is that noise?  Are you banging on the counter?  Stop it!"
"Was that you banging on something?"
"The couch is shaking all the way over here..."

And then there's just the stare.  You know the one.  ;)

On top of that, I never (ever ever) sit down when I'm on the phone.  I can't sit and talk, I have to pace to get the brain going.  Same with when I had classes to study for.  I'd take the book, walk around with it, read a section, and say it back to myself like I'm in a tutoring session.  I work as a university tutor (psychology) and I'm always at the board, drawing stuff, lecturing, or dancing around like a mad fool so that students remember concepts.  I may sit down for 10 minutes of my workday, and I never tire of standing.

Have you heard of set point theory?  That our bodies have a comfortable weight range that they'll maintain if one eats when they're hungry, stops when they're full, and gets moderate exercise?  I think mine is around 145 because that's where I was for 12 years of my life before anorexia took hold.  My ravenous appetite right now might be that my body is trying to get back to its set point after years of being so low.  Set point is like a thermostat: your body craves extra calories when you dip below, and you won't have much appetite if you go above (until you dip back down to the preferred weight).  Of course, my ravenous appetite might also be from the start of HRT, who knows.  :laugh:  I started HRT at such a low weight that it's tough to tease one from the other now.

So after I gain 5 to 10 more pounds (putting me at 145-150) I'll see if my appetite takes a nosedive.
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Just Shelly

The lowest I got was 119, and I was damn proud! Yes I know thats not a good attitude.

People would ask if I was sick or something and say I'm too thin, then telling me "you can't be more then 130-140 UGH! Your telling me I am thin but I still look like I weigh maybe 140. At my heaviest in my life I was 165 and I didn't like that.

This is why I hate when I get close to that 130 mark, if I'm at 130 hell I'll look like I'm 150. >:(

I do have some body dysmorphic problems (comes with the territory) I would like to put on some weight, just in the right places. Even at the current weight of 128- 5'7" I still do not look thin to me.

I used to do the "lets not eat for nearly two days" doesn't really take off the weight but surely doesn't add any. Even if you ate like a pig for two days your not going to gain wieght in that short of time.

The reason (although not a problem to me) I don't gain weight is that I have a fairly low fat diet. I started that years ago to loose wieght and now I'm use to eating like that. I also have a hard time sitting still and am fairly active. I hate that  I'm on the cp 100% more then ever, only because I take my college courses online. I feel like such a lazy ass.

I do notice though once a month (believe it or not) I retain water, its disgusting, I can pop out my stomach and look exactly like I'm pregnant lady that carries it low.

Shelly
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CrazyTina

Quote from: Just Shelly on May 01, 2011, 11:10:43 PMEven at the current weight of 128- 5'7" I still do not look thin to me.

Hon, I think it would be beneficial for you to read this... I wrote it to someone else and I do not really want to modify it.


You ever had a time where you saw a really beautiful girl looking back in the mirror? That is because you are now finally able to see your beauty, even if it is just once in a rare while. It happens just like that, we hate ourselves until one day we just look in the mirror to brush our teeth or put on make-up and BAM we are hit with a stunningly beautiful face that we do not recognize staring back at us. The reality is, that beautiful face has been looking at you the whole time... the problem was just that you weren't looking at her face. The brain can create illusions when we look at ourselves and we still see the old us. Same goes for anorexic girls. We were once a normal weight with maybe a little pudge, and months later of starving we still see that pudge even though it is not there. Looking past the illusion we are stunned to find that we look better than we ever could have wished.

Love and Light.
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Gabby

Quote from: JungianZoe on May 01, 2011, 06:03:30 PM
I also just recently became vegetarian again (last time stopped for health reasons) and studying ways to supplement what I no longer get from a meat diet.  It's tricky though!  I don't want to wind up in the same health situation I was in before.
I'm a vegetarian for many years now and I've never supplemented my diet:

protein from the premade vegetarian foods:  pies, southern fried fillets, spicy bean burgers, licolnshire and glamorgan sausages etc, add different breads granary bread, mediterranean bread, tomato bloomer are three favs, then vegetables and fav fruits bananna, pineapple, oranges.

I forgot baked beans (with bread and mayo ofc) with brown sauce god I love that lol.
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CrazyTina

Vegetarian is a great way to stay healthy. Meat (especially red meat) with the amount that people consume is quite un healthy. I do not want to gross you out, but even though I am Vegetarian, I have a passion for duck blood soup. The blood is just so good! Anyway, if I were to return from being a Veg, I would only consume fish.
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Rock_chick

Quote from: JungianZoe on May 01, 2011, 06:03:30 PM
Careful with the greasy sandwiches and then the fiber... that can be a painful combination! :(  I also just recently became vegetarian again (last time stopped for health reasons) and studying ways to supplement what I no longer get from a meat diet.  It's tricky though!  I don't want to wind up in the same health situation I was in before.

I don't particularly like doing it...one the meat tastes horrible and two...well I'll not talk about two that much but it's not nice.

I still eat chicken and fish occasionally, but i'm pretty much there, it's just everyso often i get protien cravings.
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Joelene9

  Yes, the greasy stuff with the fiber!  Especially after a recent bout with salmonella.  I'm just getting the proper gut flora and enzymes back now.  No trumpets last night.  I'll try the whistleberry stew soon to see if they did come back.  Try Beano. 
  I, too have those protein cravings.  Unsalted, no flavor added peanuts will do, not savory enough to pig out on those things. 
  Joelene
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Cindy

Just to chip in (sorry)

I'm just on normal weight for a woman my height 170 cms and 62 kilos. But I do not diet I don't do anything except eat high protein meals. I probably eat a cow a week (sorry to you vegans etc :embarrassed:) knock the horns off and pour over some mushroom sauce.

I think there is also also of convincing yourself that you like your body. There is far too much rubbish in magazines about waif thin models etc. Most of them struggle to pick up a cigarette to kill their food cravings.

Why have a life if you cannot enjoy and live it?

I hope that is not insulting to sufferers of eating disorders, it's not meant to be.

Very gentle Hugs

Cindy
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Rock_chick

Well i've managed to gain about 4lbs over the past couplenof weeks...it's exhausting though trying to make sure i eat enough and i'm not super happy that i have to rely on junk food hit to most days to make sure i get enough.
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HitOrMiss.

Can I pick your brains for a minute? You all seem to be much more knowledgeable on these subjects then I.

Situation is as follows:
I'm 23 now, and have been the same weight since I was 15 or so, which is 100-107 lbs. The heaviest I've ever been was 111ish. I'm 5'3"
I'm a very picky eater and have a relatively small library of foods from which I will eat. I don't really enjoy eating but understand the need to do so.
I (generally (i.e. unless forced to)) don't hesitate to eat when I'm hungry, but and not really hungry often.

Using that myfitnesspal.com link, the calculators say that my BMR is between 1,191 and 1,357 and BMI is 18.2 (technically underweight, but very borderline) with a target weight of 104.4 - 141.1 lbs...

My eating habits are not regular (as in same time every day). Generally I end up eating one "big" meal per day with several snacks scattered around. However, in the case where I do eat regular, larger meals, my weight doesn't really change from my average 102-105 range.

Additionally, I've been on HRT for 5 months now and haven't noticed any shape changes, but am obviously developing in the chest, but not too rapidly (A cup so far)

Anyways, just wanted to inquire about if these sorts of values seem reasonable. All of you seem to be significantly taller them I as well as more active, so I'm not sure if I should ignore or pay attention to statements like
Quote from: Citrine Oak on May 01, 2011, 04:45:31 PM
The bare minimum that is healthy, and I do mean bare because this isn't healthy either is 1,200 calories a day.

Thanks everyone for your interesting insight and openness.
If flesh could crawl / My skin would fall / From off my bones / And run away from here
- Garbage - As Heaven Is Wide
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Rock_chick

I do eat healthy food, lots of fruit and veg, but to get more than 2000 calories I really am having to rely on some kind of junkfoody snack at some point. It annoys me no end.
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Smith

You look so great sister citrine oak, two thumbs up for you my sister  :) :) :)
and the song is very gentle, calm and so nice, I like that song  :) :) :)
Quote from: Citrine Oak on May 01, 2011, 03:11:07 PM
Funny you mention it. I just recovered from Purging type Anorexia. I nearly killed myself weighing only 103 pounds at 6 foot 1 inces.

This video goes into more depth with pictures of my transition, but 1/2 of it revolves around my eating disorder, as that became a huge part of my life. So please watch it. (Warning: you will cry)


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Double_Rainbow

You gals are making me feel so fat! >.<  I'm having to diet because I'm 15 lbs over!  I don't eat all that unhealthy, just a lot of Mediterranean foods and no amount of exercise seems to be helping.  I'm buxom to say the least, I just wish I could get rid of this pudge I've got.
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JungianZoe

Quote from: Rini on May 07, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
You gals are making me feel so fat! >.<  I'm having to diet because I'm 15 lbs over!  I don't eat all that unhealthy, just a lot of Mediterranean foods and no amount of exercise seems to be helping.  I'm buxom to say the least, I just wish I could get rid of this pudge I've got.

What I often hear is that it's not about what you eat, but a matter of energy-in/energy-out.  If energy-in (calories) exceeds energy-out (BMR plus physical activity), then weight gain occurs.  If the opposite, then weight loss.  But finding that delicate balance can often be difficult.

As for my own progress, I'm flirting with the 145 mark for the first time in five years, so it's time to ramp down this mega-calorie diet to a more sensible weight-management one.  While I'll miss the almost-daily Baskin Robbins or Dairy Queen runs, I think my stomach (and my bank account) will thank me for the switch.  :laugh:  I've had some amazing HRT-induced physical changes since I started gaining the weight, and now that I have some fat to redistribute, I can't wait to see more!
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Gabby

Quote from: CindyJames on May 03, 2011, 05:54:24 AM
I'm just on normal weight for a woman my height 170 cms and 62 kilos. But I do not diet I don't do anything except eat high protein meals. I probably eat a cow a week (sorry to you vegans etc :embarrassed:) knock the horns off and pour over some mushroom sauce.
Cindy I had to google a converter :P, and your weight of 136lbs for 5' 10 is a fantastic weight indeed, it's exactly what I'm aiming for myself :)

And you can eat whatever you like :)
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: JungianZoe on May 10, 2011, 02:05:42 PM
As for my own progress, I'm flirting with the 145 mark for the first time in five years, so it's time to ramp down this mega-calorie diet to a more sensible weight-management one.  While I'll miss the almost-daily Baskin Robbins or Dairy Queen runs, I think my stomach (and my bank account) will thank me for the switch.  :laugh: 

just make it a literal run so that the energy in balances with the energy out ;) 

now I am nostalgic for both of those...have not been to a DQ in ages (do not even remember the last time I SAW one) although I have gone past 31 flavors on several occasions while in the Houston area.   
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Rock_chick

Meh...I think I just lost all the weight I put on.
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JungianZoe

Quote from: Ann Onymous on May 10, 2011, 03:07:20 PM
now I am nostalgic for both of those...have not been to a DQ in ages (do not even remember the last time I SAW one) although I have gone past 31 flavors on several occasions while in the Houston area.

Not sure what I'd do without my Blizzards, and I maxed out my allotment of scoops on 31-cent scoop night two weeks ago at BR.  :laugh:  Two scoops of Icing on the Cake topped by Oreo Cookie?  Mmmm....

Quote from: Helena on May 10, 2011, 03:47:26 PM
Meh...I think I just lost all the weight I put on.

Keep up the fight, Helena!  I know you have the strength to do it. :)  It took me two years to get comfortable with the idea of gaining (even then, not entirely) so don't get discouraged when you stumble.
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