Suporn's FailureS ..... Who else?

[kelly]

Thank you Nickie,
I am sorry for your result of srs. One shall say that there is an excess of skin when you sit.
I hope that you will be happy of the result of your retouch.

[Nickie_66]

so here are my news,

i sent pics to Miro 2 weeks ago, he just told me to keep waiting a few month and keep him updated
and actually since i took those pics, the swelling has nicely reduced, it's far from good yet but it's on the way

so right now i'm spending a month in Japan, i'll take updated pics when i'm back, as i guess it'll look quite better by then 

[pyradraconia]

wow, its hard to belive that's suporns work, when a lot of people talk wonders about him

[MrTesto]

I don't know whether this information is useful for any readers of this thread, but Dr. Miroslav Djordjevic (a.k.a. Dr Miro) is in the United States every few months. Sometimes he is presenting at conferences, and has slides of his work. But often he's able to do consults in person with patients or potential patients.

Also, WPATH.org has an ethics committee. If your current surgeon is requesting medical records from a previous surgeon, yet not receiving appropriate professional response, that is affecting your care. You may wish to contact the WPATH office to see how to at least register your complaint with them. If Suporn were in the US, withholding records might be a HIPAA violation, but he isn't. And it's not easy to find on his site what professional organizations he does belong to, to see what ethical codes he is bound by. (He, or his office, as it seems like his staff is clearly acting in an unprofessional manner, regardless of outcome.)

[elle2011]

Ok got it. So do you know what exactly caused this problem, it was stated that it had to do with the method of grafting. But what exactly caused it, do you even know?

[Nickie_66]

hi again, i'm back from my hollidays! 

and wow, lots of news in this topic :p


so i'll reply :

Ive been reading all the comments with great interest and with great sadness. I can understand your frustration with your results but you are doing Dr Suporn a great injustice as well as other pre op girls who is trying to sort through all the info of choosing a surgeon. Some of the girls could have benefited from dr Suporn's technique and would have had great results but with the slander, they'll never know.

well let's make it simple:

what happened to me might also happen to ANYBODY ELSE as i have not any clue of why it happened to me, nobody in the clinic would tell

then i'm not forcing anybody to avoid any surgeon, i'm just saying that, this happened,

and nothing else, so it's all up to you to make your own conclusions, both on the outcome and the management of my case , those are pretty useful informations i think, that you know that, IF something goes wrong, then here's how the warranty works...

if you're talking about injustice, do you think Suporn Clinic has done ME any justice?



THEN for my news, i'm still swollen (yeah it's becoming quite long..... ) but i think it's getting a bit better appearance-wise, but i'm still some months from anything definitive.... but i could take pics for those who want to have an idea of Miro's work



and more of my news, someone sent me an e-mail from thailand, someone who met both Chett and Suporn, in order to make the good decision, and she asked about me
here's what she says:

the negative thing is : he didn't hear anything about your case.... saying (several times) that he didn't know your case. i took the time to explain that you came twice for a really bad result, that you lived in suffering, both physical and pschological, a really bad esthetic result, that you needed to find another surgeon after the 2nd time, and that he couldn't contact the clinic... but he did an "asian evade", he looked pretty neutral but i felt a bit of embarassment anyway... he even said "we are losing 10 minutes talking about a case that isn't yours" (because i insisted)... then he told me his usual thing that none can guarantee a zero risk in surgery and that i could come back for corrections as many times as necessary, that he had done over 2000 surgies and that everything would be totally find, the only thing that would depend of me would be doing my dilations and not worry too much, because those who worry have more risks, for example those who worry a lot about infections have more risks to get one
i didn't dare ask more about Sophie and the Michelle S. case.... that's too bad

so , did my aesthetic problem happen because i was too much worried about having too much penis left?

about blaming someone, well first i didn't blame suporn, because i thought maybe something in me made my result happen.....

but if there was such a peculiar thing in me, then why didn't Suporn tell me about it, and why  didn't Dr Miro find it ?


i don't blame Dr Suporn at all for not correcting it when i went back to thailand, i totaly understand that he's not qualified for that, i totally blame Sophie for making me go there for nothing,


BUT i still think that the amount of corporal bodies left is nothing else than a mistake (Miro removed no less than 8 centimeters, or 3 inches, how can you get wrong by that much ? )
and i really wish i could have had any kind of explanation  from the clinic, but i have never had anything like that, the only thing they told me was "it might get better over time" but now i know that no, there are no chance that 8 centimeters of bent corpora cavernosa (Miro even provided me pictures of it :p ) can ever get better

so i guess i'll never know what happened, and i do wonder how many other people have had such issues without saying anything publicly ?



so i am one, and i don't see any reason to hide just because most people are happy, i know that they are happy, actually if suporn had a bad reputation, i would not even need to tell my story, would i ?

[Yuna]

Hello, i am from austria and i have searched for informations about dr suporn because a friend of mine said he is the best for srs.

Now i hit that thread and read one of the first posts and i am really scared. Should i spent all my money for "nothing"? I can't say it because i did not saw the photos (nickie would you please so kind and send me the passwort for the archieve? ).

i thought that Suporn makes no mistakes (yes stupid idea, but i read only about successfull operations), and now i am a little bit scared.

Sorry for my bad english :/

[Nickie_66]

well there is some risk with any surgeon , but for now i'd recommend Chettawut, not because he's "better" or anything, as they both have a similar level of experience;
but because he is much less overbooked at the moment, since he slowed down on surgeries and has his own block he is more available to each patient


i think Suporn can only come back to his "number one" position after he does the same things, so his clinic look less than the mass production factory it is now...

[Yuna]

thx for the password and your opinion about this i will consider that and include it in my researches.

[Sarah Louise]

Every surgeon has failures.  Sometimes it isn't even their failure, it could be lack of donor material or many different things.

Definitely do your own investigation, make up your mind from all the available information.

[Nickie_66]

if chett wasn't included in your researches, then yes, you surely need to consider him, as suporn and him are the 2 famous ones that make the trip to thailand worth doing for us 



ps: sarah louise: there is no "a" in definitely

[Valentine]

I am sorry you went through this Nikki, but I am glad you shared your experience. I had decided on Suporn a long time ago but as I may soon have funds to get surgery I am reëvaluating. 
I have not had great interaction with Sophie either. She appears to be the one running admin@supornclinic.com. I may go else where afterall.
I still wish it was possible to have a full female reproductive system  , but I would be much happier at least being able to have sex as a woman. 

[Nickie_66]

She appears to be the one running admin@supornclinic.com.

she does indeed , i have also tried to contact the clinic differently, to no avail. 

[GendrKweer]

ive heard it a lot on this forum that sophie is difficult or something.... i had a perfectly opposite experience with her from the beginning. In fact, check this out: I had booked my surgery for Aug 2 (six weeks ago, but I booked in Feb or so). A few days later, it turned out that their staff holiday was on that day, so Sophie politely told me she had moved it to July 29 or so. Fine, what do I care? Then a few months later, I bought my plane tickets, nonrefundable x 2. For guess which date? Yup, Aug 2. When I sent her the happy itinerary, she wrote back, very politely, I'm pleased you got your ticket, but we agreed on the 29th, so that might be a problem. Yup again. After a few days of working on my behalf, she got the rest of the girls, and doctor suporn himself, to delay the big holiday by one to do my SRS on the 2nd. The morning of the 3rd, Dr Suporn checks up on me at six am, then veritably sprinted out of the room. Why? I asked the nurse.... because the big buddhist holiday he was supposed to be celebrating in chiang mai with his wife and family, the one he had partially missed to get my SRS done the day before.

Sophie is very nice. Just need to show respect and politeness (a big thing in thai culture), and she's a lamb.

[Nickie_66]

a big thing in thai culture

she's not thai

(she's not even in thailand at all.. )

[GendrKweer]

she's not thai

(she's not even in thailand at all.. )

Interesting! Nevertheless, that was my experience.... how do you know??

[Nickie_66]

i happen to know some people who have actually met her

[Silent Killer]

I'm not going to Mr Porn anymore. This is a karma due to his abuse of his prices as well. I'm not paying $16,000 to have another 'bulge' you know...

[Mari]

@Nickie_66

I'd love to see your result after Dr. Miro, as well as pictures after revision (i was not able to guess the password  )

And what is your overall impression of Miro now that you have two of them to compare?

[Nickie_66]

well for the after revision, i'm still sloooooowly unswelling, touching the area so deeply a third time makes it quite slower to heal ..... :/

And what is your overall impression of Miro now that you have two of them to compare?

i can't really compare as i haven't had the initial surgery with both
also Miro does a penile-inversion-styled SRS

all i can say for now is the corpora cavernosa removal is a success indeed

but the labiaplasty has been pretty destructive :/ (third surgery, necrosis on one side... ) it may be that it already looks a bit better than before but i have some issues so it's kind of a mixed result, i have a good overlall impression of Miro, but they were obviously kind of overwhelmed with my swelling, and i'm not sure yet but i'd say he got a bit too quantitative with his cutting tools :p