Both Sides Of Transgender Bill Debate Speak Out

[Shana A]

Both Sides Of Transgender Bill Debate Speak Out
Measure Proposed By Assemblywoman Toni Atkins Would Amend State Non-Discrimination Laws

POSTED: 7:23 pm PDT June 10, 2011

http://www.10news.com/news/28203538/detail.html

SAN DIEGO -- Critics are sounding off on a proposed state bill that would grant greater protection for transgendered people in the workplace and allow for cross-dressing.

Six years ago, Steve began living his life as a woman named Vicki Estrada. She owns her own business in San Diego and has not faced workplace discrimination, but she told 10News her transgendered friends have.

"They had 10 to 15 years with a company and bammo, they transition and they're fired, immediately," said Estrada.

[Julie Marie]

The process of proposing a law begins with people acting in a way contrary to what the proposed law is designed to prevent.  There would be no laws against murder if no murder had ever taken place.  And there would be no laws, proposed or in effect, against discrimination if there was no discrimination taking place. 

As discrimination becomes less and less palatable to society, society tries to figure out a way to end the discrimination.  Since you can't just tell someone to stop it and really expect them to do so, we have to resort to creating laws and attaching consequences.  So when people oppose laws such as this, the logical conclusion is they don't want to have to stop discriminating against certain people.  They will throw all kinds of reasons why laws like this shouldn't be passed but the real reason is they don't want to lose their right to discriminate.

The only people who would oppose laws against murder are murders, or those who are inclined to murder.  It's the same with discrimination.

[Janet_Girl]

Attorney Dean Broyles said gender identity is not a civil right.

Really Mr. Broyles.  To be able to get dress as we please is not a civil right?  There is no law that requires us to wear a uniform, this isn't the military.

"It's going to be very confusing for other employees and customers, including parents to tell children what's going on," said Broyles.
Broyles is also concerned about public restrooms and wonders just who is entering which bathroom. He said he believes the confusion will cause customers and vendors to bail.

Again with the bathroom issue.  If the customers and vendors bail, let them.  They will be back.  Humans are stupid and will forget.  And if the don't, you don't really want their business anyway.

[Julie Marie]

They will throw all kinds of reasons why laws like this shouldn't be passed

You just proved my point Janet.