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Title: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 02, 2011, 05:03:43 AM
Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and it freed me from even hearing republican or democratic Bull_Hit.

Stop going to the MSM and get your truths from we the people who are suffering the truth.

Keep supporting Occupy in every city and town.

Last of all go to http://www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) and sign up to be a delegate to your district so we can meet in **Phila Pa in july 2012** for our convention ... There we will vote on our grievences to bring to congress and if they are not acted on we will become our own party elected by the people
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago a
Post by: Devlyn on December 02, 2011, 06:11:43 PM
I shut off the TV, but they keep sending me propaganda in the newspaper....
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 02, 2011, 07:03:50 PM
I got rid of my television in 1999. #smugbastard
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: EmmaM on December 02, 2011, 10:30:04 PM
My TV is pumping a pandora christmas radio station fed by an expensive cable connection.

When I move none of it is coming with me.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Shana A on December 02, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
I unplugged the TV in 1993, one of the best things I ever did.

Z
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Zaria on December 02, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
I always find it interesting that 'news' from a point of view people don't agree with is called 'propaganda'... but news/information that posters agree with is called 'information'...

Hugs
Zaria :)
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 03, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Zaria on December 02, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
I always find it interesting that 'news' from a point of view people don't agree with is called 'propaganda'... but news/information that posters agree with is called 'information'...

Hugs
Zaria :)

No way Zaria, it's all propaganda. I myself am a diligent propagandist for the gay agenda. :laugh:
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 03, 2011, 04:05:14 AM
QuoteStop going to the MSM and get your truths from we the people who are suffering the truth.

What does msm mean other than Men who Sleep with Men?
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: saint on December 03, 2011, 04:22:08 AM
Quote from: Felix on December 03, 2011, 04:05:14 AM
What does msm mean other than Men who Sleep with Men?

MainStream Media (I think)

+1 vote for getting rid of the TV - it frees up so much time and energy for better things.  And on the rare occasion there is something worth viewing you can find it free online anyhow :)

Plus it enables me to write very smug replies when the TV licensing slimeballs tell me I owe them money :D
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 03, 2011, 04:40:03 AM
Quote from: saint on December 03, 2011, 04:22:08 AM
MainStream Media (I think)

+1 vote for getting rid of the TV - it frees up so much time and energy for better things.  And on the rare occasion there is something worth viewing you can find it free online anyhow :)

Plus it enables me to write very smug replies when the TV licensing slimeballs tell me I owe them money :D

Are you sure?

Anyway I rot my brain just fine with the internet, so the television seems pretty pointless. I really didn't think most people used those machines anymore. I don't know a single person who owns one.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: tekla on December 03, 2011, 10:17:33 AM
I don't know a single person who owns one that's under 32" anymore.

At least in my world.  I love movies and like to have them on in the background and I do that a lot.  And it's nice for sports.  I know other people who use them for all sorts of things anymore, their computers, vids, making their own stuff.  But the main media, no.  A lot of that isn't because I'm a better person, its' that I have always been working nights, so never got into that prime time stuff that feeds most of the media.  I never got into watching the evening news because I wasn't home at that time.  Simple as that.

However, my parents were very anti-TV (for their own reasons) and I didn't grow up watching it, so that habit never developed.  My kids were raised without it (we had one, it had a couple of VCRs on it, and the game system, no broadcast/cable) because I very specifically was extremely concerned about two things: 1) I didn't want them to grow up with a huge catalog of manufactured desires and stereotypes in their heads 2) I wanted all their memories to be real, not fabrications - that the things they 'know' they know because they were part of it, not because someone else created a visualization of it for them that they only 'saw' from a removed stand-point.  But I was a weird parent.  They were not just my kids, they were my little experiment too.


There is a certain danger in giving up on msm because those people tend to get their information from "alternative" websites which often presents conspiracies etc as the absolute thruth.
I think the danger comes in when you compare the difference between getting your news pumped into you via TV, and reading it.  Reading allows time for reflection, checking, verification, and contemplation, which give you a very different end product than just having it streamed into your brain.  Reading also allows for comparison between different sources too, while most people who get their news from TV get it from one perspective only, and it's constantly the same perspective.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Bishounen on December 03, 2011, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 03, 2011, 10:17:33 AM
I don't know a single person who owns one that's under 32" anymore.

At least in my world.  I love movies and like to have them on in the background and I do that a lot.  And it's nice for sports.  I know other people who use them for all sorts of things anymore, their computers, vids, making their own stuff.  But the main media, no.  A lot of that isn't because I'm a better person, its' that I have always been working nights, so never got into that prime time stuff that feeds most of the media.  I never got into watching the evening news because I wasn't home at that time.  Simple as that.

However, my parents were very anti-TV (for their own reasons) and I didn't grow up watching it, so that habit never developed.  My kids were raised without it (we had one, it had a couple of VCRs on it, and the game system, no broadcast/cable) because I very specifically was extremely concerned about two things: 1) I didn't want them to grow up with a huge catalog of manufactured desires and stereotypes in their heads 2) I wanted all their memories to be real, not fabrications - that the things they 'know' they know because they were part of it, not because someone else created a visualization of it for them that they only 'saw' from a removed stand-point.  But I was a weird parent.  They were not just my kids, they were my little experiment too.


There is a certain danger in giving up on msm because those people tend to get their information from "alternative" websites which often presents conspiracies etc as the absolute thruth.
I think the danger comes in when you compare the difference between getting your news pumped into you via TV, and reading it.  Reading allows time for reflection, checking, verification, and contemplation, which give you a very different end product than just having it streamed into your brain.  Reading also allows for comparison between different sources too, while most people who get their news from TV get it from one perspective only, and it's constantly the same perspective.

Totally disagree. Reading or watching will not make any difference for someone that is already a gullible person, nor will it make any difference for the person that is already a self-thinking and rational person.
And, nor will the type of Medial Outlet make any difference for the one that bordes to Schizophrenia either, and thinks that a State in USA will be nuked on a Thursday because Michelle Obama was posing in a red dress in a certain bodily position on a cover of Vogue(Yep, true case, and the person "Warned" people about the coming nuking)
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 03, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Tekla movies and sports are the biggest propaganda shows.. they keep the mind dumbed down by fulfilling it with excitement or mystery etc etc.. thats not real life.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 03, 2011, 06:00:16 PM
I love love love tv. I can sit down and watch Kardashians and the E! channel all day long!

Just because I am that awesome
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jen61 on December 03, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
A legend in her own mind !  :laugh:
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: tekla on December 03, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Every real legend I've ever met was a legend in their own mind first and foremost.  You have to start somewhere, and if you can't sell it to yourself (almost as if it were your birthright), then your never going to convince anyone else to give it to you.  For damn sure on that.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 03, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: tekla on December 03, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Every real legend I've ever met was a legend in their own mind first and foremost.  You have to start somewhere, and if you can't sell it to yourself (almost as if it were your birthright), then your never going to convince anyone else to give it to you.  For damn sure on that.

Some people take my ego too seriously.... Not you Tekla.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Julie Marie on December 03, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
I accept the entertainment value of movies and sports.  I might also take in a how to or design show to get some ideas.  I'll watch politicians for a good laugh or to pick apart everything they say.  I turn the cynicism on full as soon as I see their faces.

I mute EVERY commercial, have been since I first had a remote with a mute on it.  I also minimize the commercial by checking the TV guide or just get up and do something.

You don't have to stop watching TV, just start watching with a healthy dose of cynicism.   
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Rain Dog on December 03, 2011, 07:41:13 PM
I never really wonder or care "what's on", so I canceled all my channels a year ago and haven't watched telly since. But I do like a good movie, so I sometimes take advantage of friends with big TVs.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Flan on December 04, 2011, 12:53:14 AM
I bought a 42" TV just so I could play PC and ps3 games on it :P
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 04, 2011, 01:33:52 AM
Quote from: Flan on December 04, 2011, 12:53:14 AM
I bought a 42" TV just so I could play PC and ps3 games on it :P

I am so tempted to do this.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Michelle. on December 04, 2011, 01:42:26 AM
Ice cream, morphine and television., a hilarious take on being comatose. Presented by the grand master of comedy, George Carlin. However I'm too lazy to track it down for ya.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 04, 2011, 01:52:26 AM
Quote from: Michelle. on December 04, 2011, 01:42:26 AM
Ice cream, morphine and television., a hilarious take on being comatose. Presented by the grand master of comedy, George Carlin. However I'm too lazy to track it down for ya.

I usually take some "magical pills" and watch HR Pufnstuff with my lids dialated.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Joelene9 on December 04, 2011, 01:54:13 AM
  I had this Heathkit 25" TV that I built in 1976.  It went out on 2006, 30 years to the completion date.  I promised that when it konked out and I cannot get the parts for it, I would not replace it.  The chassis went to a recycler.  The Magnavox walnut toned cabinet it was in is going to be a bookcase, it still has the vacuum tube layout guide pasted inside from the first chassis that was in it.  No more cable bills.
  I never regretted it. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jen61 on December 04, 2011, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: tekla on December 03, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Every real legend I've ever met was a legend in their own mind first and foremost.  You have to start somewhere, and if you can't sell it to yourself (almost as if it were your birthright), then your never going to convince anyone else to give it to you.  For damn sure on that.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 04, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: Jen61 on December 04, 2011, 12:11:35 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hahaha...Dutch humor huh?
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Zaria on December 04, 2011, 01:22:10 PM
Quote from: Flan on December 04, 2011, 12:53:14 AM
I bought a 42" TV just so I could play PC and ps3 games on it :P

Thats all I use my TV for.  PS3 and PC... I have netflix for my ps3 so I can watch the occasional movie.  Haven't had cable for years now.

Hugs
Zaria
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jamie D on December 05, 2011, 02:29:21 AM
Quote from: Logan Erik on December 03, 2011, 12:39:10 AM
I grew up without a TV.  Best idea ever.  Many positive side-effects.  Only negative side-effect was in being ignorant of some things other kids knew about from TV, none of which was any great loss.  Highly, highly recommended from my point of view.

You are one of the lucky ones.  Several generations of children have had their attention spans stunted by children's programming like "Sesame Street."
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 05, 2011, 02:42:24 AM
Sesame Street is my bible. Omnomnom, yummy propaganda.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 05, 2011, 04:12:34 AM
eeeegahd video games are the worst mind dumber downers ... sheesh people

and no one remarked about joing the www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) to make real changes in our goverment sheeshhhh  ::)
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 05, 2011, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: Amazon D on December 05, 2011, 04:12:34 AM
eeeegahd video games are the worst mind dumber downers ... sheesh people

and no one remarked about joing the www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) to make real changes in our goverment sheeshhhh  ::)

I love video games. Here's a really stupid one that's addictive and happy - http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/games/macswear (http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/games/macswear)
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: 8888 on December 05, 2011, 05:51:21 AM
Gave up TV in 2009. Mum still watches it, we have funny convos because she repeats everything she hears on the MSM word for word, usually either lies/bull>-bleeped-< or exagerations, like for example with Libya or Russia/Georgia conflict + many more. It goes furthur than that though, maybe if TV didn't exist most people wouldn't be so stereotypical.

I don't mind RussiaToday for news - they seem to be the most unbiased, or Channel4 documentaries and BBC comedies. But you can watch 'em all online for free.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Zaria on December 05, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Amazon D on December 05, 2011, 04:12:34 AM
eeeegahd video games are the worst mind dumber downers ... sheesh people

and no one remarked about joing the www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) to make real changes in our goverment sheeshhhh  ::)

Video games are no different than any other form of entertainment. 

And I did make an indirect comment about your declarations...   I stated that information that people disagree with is called 'propaganda' yet stuff they agree with they call 'information'... IMO that website is nothing but propaganda for the left.  But to each their own.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: tekla on December 05, 2011, 11:27:58 PM
Video games are no different than any other form of entertainment. 

So they are just like fapping while watching porn, or enjoying the vulgar slack-jawed white trash funnies there on Hillbilly Hand-Fishing.  Let me get this right.  So... playing World of You, at home, by yourself is no different from going to the Opera, or ballet? 

No different from reading or being active? 

No different from actually doing something, going somewhere, being someone? 
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amy85 on December 05, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
But without TV I wouldn't have enjoyed this as a child...


M.A.S.K. Intro *High Quality HD* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Z1yLO9C-Q#)


Totally worth it.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Felix on December 06, 2011, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 05, 2011, 11:27:58 PM
Video games are no different than any other form of entertainment. 

So they are just like fapping while watching porn, or enjoying the vulgar slack-jawed white trash funnies there on Hillbilly Hand-Fishing.  Let me get this right.  So... playing World of You, at home, by yourself is no different from going to the Opera, or ballet? 

No different from reading or being active? 

No different from actually doing something, going somewhere, being someone?

Good evening tekla. :laugh: You walk around in armor covered in spikes, don't you?
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Lily on December 06, 2011, 12:16:01 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 05, 2011, 11:27:58 PM
Video games are no different than any other form of entertainment. 

So they are just like fapping while watching porn, or enjoying the vulgar slack-jawed white trash funnies there on Hillbilly Hand-Fishing.  Let me get this right.  So... playing World of You, at home, by yourself is no different from going to the Opera, or ballet? 

No different from reading or being active? 

No different from actually doing something, going somewhere, being someone?

It's no different if the person is getting enjoyment from it.

Going to the opera and watching a sitcom are not productive activities, they are entirely for entertainment and there is no real difference in them aside from personal taste. What you have is an opinion, and while it's very much a valid one, the "slack jawed hillbilly's" opinion is valid as well, provided that the purpose of the activity is enjoyment.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Zaria on December 06, 2011, 04:36:23 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 05, 2011, 11:27:58 PM
Video games are no different than any other form of entertainment. 

So they are just like fapping while watching porn, or enjoying the vulgar slack-jawed white trash funnies there on Hillbilly Hand-Fishing.  Let me get this right.  So... playing World of You, at home, by yourself is no different from going to the Opera, or ballet? 

No different from reading or being active? 

No different from actually doing something, going somewhere, being someone?

The purpose of entertainment is to actually be entertained.  What you find entertaining is different than what I find entertaining.   I find certain video games have very good story lines... YOU might thing that isn't as enlightening as the opera or ballet... but you couldn't pay me to do either of those activities without falling asleep. 

I read probably about 2 books a week and have around a dozen on the go at any given time... do I find this better than video games? nope, both entertain me.

Being active? sorry but because of a MVA this isn't a possibility.

Actually doing something? pretty vague please elaborate...
Going somewhere? Perhaps I am where I wish to be..
Being someone? and who are you to define who is 'someone'.

All and all I find your statement VERY judgmental and condescending.  Just because YOU don't think an activity is worth your time does not give you the right to look down upon it.

Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 06, 2011, 06:17:43 AM
David Rothchilds wants to force the world to use less energy etc 500 trillion$


500 trillions dollars in worth = half of the planets money controlled by the rothchilds = The Rothschilds 500 TRILLION DOLLARS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8&feature=endscreen&NR=1#)      .............................

......................................... .................................................... ....................................

David de Rothschild Answers Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b77baa3VdhM&feature=related#) = David Rothchilds is going to force the world to stop consuming stuff because he wants to save the planet.

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Get ready for the slow down and be able to survive without thinking all will be the same.. I have been trying to tell you this for yrs.. that's why i have done what i have done.. don't plan on spending and consuming like normal.. The money is being extracted from the people to force us to use less.. your home will only be worth very little but people who have land to grow food will have value... sell your city / suburban houses asap and buy farm land with a structure...
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: justmeinoz on December 06, 2011, 07:00:33 AM
Tyhere is hardly anything I would consider worth watching at the moment anyway.  Robson Green's "Extreme Fishing",   "Coast", any science or history  doco's on SBS, and that's about it.
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: AbraCadabra on December 06, 2011, 07:18:32 AM
* There is hardly anything I would consider worth watching... *

Says it all for SA's DSTV at R 700-00 per month. Just trash for the brain challenged with FEW exceptions.

Axélle
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Julie Marie on December 06, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
I watched TV on Sunday.  In fact I was flipping back between two shows.  On one channel Tiger Woods and Zac Johnson were battling it out for first place in a tournament Tiger sponsors.  Tiger had gone winless since he hit that fire hydrant.

The other show was the (7-4) Bears playing the (4-7) Chiefs. 

Tiger won the tournament on the final hole with a birdie.  I don't think that was propaganda.

The Bears lost their second in a row since Cutler broke his thumb.  They got one field goal, that's it.  Now THAT was propaganda!
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jayne on December 06, 2011, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: saint on December 03, 2011, 04:22:08 AM
MainStream Media (I think)

+1 vote for getting rid of the TV - it frees up so much time and energy for better things.  And on the rare occasion there is something worth viewing you can find it free online anyhow :)

Plus it enables me to write very smug replies when the TV licensing slimeballs tell me I owe them money :D

Sorry to burst your bubble but the TV license laws were changed a few years ago to include PC's as they can pick up the BBC iplayer.

As for propoganda, only a muppet would believe anything the BBC say in their news, they are in the pockets of politicians who allow them to use the courts & re-write the law whenever a loophole is found, if the BBC report on something the MP's really want kept secret then their support could evaporate overnight. The BBC is the most untrusworthy news source in the western world.

End of rant
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 06, 2011, 03:31:30 PM
 look at the energy savings = http://www.grist.org/list/2011-05-19-tv-v.-computer-the-energy-use-showdown (http://www.grist.org/list/2011-05-19-tv-v.-computer-the-energy-use-showdown)
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Amazon D on December 06, 2011, 03:33:56 PM

If i were david and his family with their power and control i too would extract money from the people of the world from the control over the banks until the worlds population changes their wasteful greedy ways.. can't you see how determined david is in what he says.. That family is not going to allow the world be destroyed due to greed (and mankinds wasteful ways) which ironically is how they got power from greed and control of the banking systems..


we humans can't even agree of the kyoto principles of energy savings and greenhouse gas reductions..

Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jen61 on December 06, 2011, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Amazon D on December 02, 2011, 05:03:43 AM
Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and it freed me from even hearing republican or democratic Bull_Hit.

Stop going to the MSM and get your truths from we the people who are suffering the truth.

Keep supporting Occupy in every city and town.

Last of all go to http://www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) and sign up to be a delegate to your district so we can meet in **Phila Pa in july 2012** for our convention ... There we will vote on our grievences to bring to congress and if they are not acted on we will become our own party elected by the people

They can have my TV when they prey my fingers open. Wat is propaganda for you may be the truth for some of us, right ?
Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Jamie D on December 07, 2011, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: Amazon D on December 06, 2011, 03:33:56 PM
we humans can't even agree of the kyoto principles of energy savings and greenhouse gas reductions..

The Kyoto protocols were a disaster.  Good thing they were not ratified by the Senate.

Title: Re: Give up your TV and stop being fed propaganda. I gave up mine many yrs ago and i
Post by: Maya Zimmerman on December 07, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: Amazon D on December 05, 2011, 04:12:34 AM
eeeegahd video games are the worst mind dumber downers ... sheesh people

and no one remarked about joing the www.the99declaration.org (http://www.the99declaration.org) to make real changes in our goverment sheeshhhh  ::)

I must have been quite a genius to have so thoroughly enjoyed video games since I was a kid and been an avid smoker of marijuana through my 20s and yet still have my mind do what it does.  In what way exactly am I dumb?  Is it that I've read the 99 declaration and regard it as another ineffectual human endeavor for some to attempt to control a massive population's activities?  Is my regarding most of religion, government, and philosophy as the attempts of some to force their own subjectivity into the objective reality of all the thing that makes me dumb?  Is the fact that I am more devoted to being a parent than following purely academic pursuits the thing that makes me dumb?  Am I stupid for not being able to afford farm land or perhaps because my brain and body leave me better suited for office work than for farm work?  Is my recognition that I can potentially enjoy my life or struggle to "improve" the whole world, as though humanity itself and human endeavors are not themselves part of nature, only to find that good intentions have a way of back-firing, perhaps the thing that makes me so awfully stupid?

I may not be a great person and things may be less than ideal, but you needn't go around saying that people you don't know are stupid based on your own ideals.  It's reminiscent of something I'm less than fond of, but I can't quite place my finger on what it is... Must be all that short-term memory loss I suffer from.