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Title: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: AbraCadabra on August 30, 2012, 02:32:17 AM
I just noticed that my avatars (old and new) are all over the web, going to Google Images, and sure as heck they all nicely linked to Susans.org "Transgender Resources" ...

The sort of outing I was not aware of and it seems to be something new, and embarrassing (to me).

As well as the numerous new "clicks" now for FB and Twitter... $$$?

Progress? Not so sure... how "famous" does one wish to get?!?

Axélle
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Jamie D on August 30, 2012, 02:36:18 AM
Look on the bright side.  The whole world knows you have a nice tush.

Ooo.  Look what shows up for "Jamie D".

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwifitnessindy.com%2Fimages%2Finstructors%2Fprofile%2Fjamie_d.png&hash=73c831721c64053d4e04f2f08e92aa5bd78645ac)

Not me, but I don't care!
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Beth Andrea on August 30, 2012, 02:52:21 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eN0rDcAtwD0/UAORw6FHliI/AAAAAAAAABQ/T0w0T3AcmLE/s422/Beth2_9+June+2012.JPG)

OMG! Look at that! Right to my Google/YouTube/FaceBook accounts!

I. Never. Knew. (Well...I did, but I gave up caring a long time ago)

Ohh...if only they could tie my old name and my new...what a sordid tale we could weave...

Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Susan on August 30, 2012, 03:31:47 AM
6. You should not give out personal information which may lead to your being identified, or contacted in person, by email or other means. If you chose to do so, then you also accept all accompanying risks. Aliases and the use of alternate email addresses are strongly encouraged.


That includes images...
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: AbraCadabra on August 30, 2012, 05:47:05 AM
Done, thank you.

Axx
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Cindy on August 30, 2012, 06:43:27 AM
 As Susan says in her ToS, basically it is up to you to provide your security.

I walk down the street and go to work everyday, If  I'm on the web. So what?

So are all the other Super Models :laugh:
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: LivingInGrey on August 30, 2012, 08:03:47 AM
This is pretty much why I don't have images of myself on the internet... along with not supporting "real ID's" online.

I know there's people that abuse the anonymity of not having to identify yourself, but there's many reasons, this site included why I feel anonymity is beneficial to most people. If I was forced into disclosing my real ID before logging onto the internet (which would provide that information to sites like this for public view) I wouldn't have setup an account here. All it would take is someone to search for "John / Jane Doe" in Google and there it would be. 
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Arch on August 30, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
I have never put up public images of myself because you never know what will happen to them. But I hate that every time I open a new Firefox window, the page shows a snapshot of a bunch of sites that I use on a regular basis. I don't mind seeing Google or even Wikipedia, but I hate that two, count 'em, TWO Susan's Place snaps show up, with my avatar and my screen name clearly visible.

This means that if someone visits me who doesn't know I'm trans, I can't just close my Susan's tab and be done with it. If that person ever wants me to look up something on Wikipedia or Yahoo Movies or whatever--or wants to do it himself--I will be outed by my own computer in my own home. Jeez, what if I had a bunch of porn sites popping up, or something? Any casual visitor would see what I've been up to lately. Even a good friend who knows about me would be able to see my screen name. Really? We really need this?

All of this stuff is linked to my IP, of course. I'm uncomfortable enough with that. But to have a TRANS TRANS TRANS moment every time I open a new tab...I don't need that for myself, and I don't want visitors to see that stuff, even if I'm already out to them.

Also, I'm taking my computer in to be serviced today, and I'm extremely uncomfortable knowing that these little snaps could out me to the computer guys.

Is there any way to turn it off or opt out?
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: LivingInGrey on August 30, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
With Firefox, if you open up Firefox and then hold the SHIFT key and press the P key you'll open up "Private Browsing" which will not save your history, log in information or passwords when you close Firefox.

If you want to completely delete all of the browser history, log in and passwords you can hold CTRL, SHIFT and press DEL key to open up the action window for doing that.

Also, I'm running Firefox ESR (for notebooks and Tablets) on my laptop. I feel it's a slightly cleaner version of Firefox with a few less silly options that I don't really need. I don't know how to turn off that "previously opened pages" view in new tabs, ESR doesn't have that.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Hikari on August 30, 2012, 09:37:14 AM
To be fair, if it can be displayed, it can be cached on some server and displayed in searches, the state of technology is such that we really don't have privacy anymore,  rather the thin veil of anonymity only works if we have KGB like information control in our own lives.

The way I see it, anonymity is hardly worth the trouble these days.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Beth Andrea on August 30, 2012, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: LivingInGrey on August 30, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
With Firefox, if you open up Firefox and then hold the SHIFT key and press the P key you'll open up "Private Browsing" which will not save your history, log in information or passwords when you close Firefox.

If you want to completely delete all of the browser history, log in and passwords you can hold CTRL, SHIFT and press DEL key to open up the action window for doing that.

Also, I'm running Firefox ESR (for notebooks and Tablets) on my laptop. I feel it's a slightly cleaner version of Firefox with a few less silly options that I don't really need. I don't know how to turn off that "previously opened pages" view in new tabs, ESR doesn't have that.

Also, Firefox will save all your user names and passwords, unencrypted if you let it (when you sign in somewhere for the first time, a little window will pop up "Save password for ---?" Go to "Tools/Options/Security" and click on "Saved Passwords"...there they are, in all their hard-to-crack (yeah, like an egg...) integrity.

And yes, you can change settings but not everyone will know about this little security issue, so...here it is.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Hikari on August 30, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
Your browser cannot help companies like google caching search results, including your avatars, browsers privacy settings affect your local computer. This is not a client side issue.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: cynthialee on August 30, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
searched my screen name and my pic is on page 8

not to much to worry about I figure
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Joann on August 30, 2012, 11:16:08 AM
Another problem is when someone tags your image on there fB/G+ page you start to show up that way. You can legally protect your image but it would cost $$,$$$ There face recognition technology is hard to defeat.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Maya Zimmerman on August 30, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Well, other than an image I'm not fond of from the RPM Challenge (that I only have myself to blame for using), I'm content with the images that come up when I search for my user name, which is my real name.  It's like one page of me and my album covers and then pictures of George Zimmerman (gross), with a spattering of pictures of Maya Rudolph (yay).
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Arch on August 30, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
Thanks for the Mozilla info, folks.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Nero on August 30, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Arch, have you tried setting your 'new tab' to open a specific website or image? I use fast dial for my new tabs with all my frequented websites (of which this site is one :D). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fast-dial-5721/
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Laura91 on August 30, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
Meh...I don't care. If you want absolute privacy than stay off the web alltogether.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Sephirah on August 30, 2012, 08:37:19 PM
I've probably filled half of google up by now.

Oh well. :P
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Felix on August 30, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
I have a kid, and I've worked with government and schools and hospitals, and I kinda just expect that nothing I do is likely to be anonymous. But I understand the discomfort it can bring.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on August 30, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
Google me and yeah there are several of my pictures there.  Don't really care, I am me.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Traivs on August 30, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
No matter what you do stuff is going to leak out. A few years back I cosplayed at a convention and someone took a picture of me without asking and ended up putting it into their youtube video one of my friends saw it and pointed it out. I know for a fact that there are images of me out there you just got to deal with it sometimes or become a hermit internet free lol.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: MayoiNeko on August 30, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
One minor benefit to being me is that it's really quite hard to find me on the internet with just a name. With a name like Chris Baker I can't even find myself while trying to.. the local phone book here has 3 pages of Bakers. So anonymity kinda follows me around.

I have a rather distinct alias online though that I use for almost everything, but decided to make up a new one when I came here to avoid them being linked together in a google search.. though that alias isn't linked to my facebook or any other websites that easily identify me anyway.


I was planning on a name change in future, keeping the same inital, middle and last name and just changing Chris to Caitlyn. I don't see this breaking my anonymity though
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: MariaMx on August 31, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
If we had been clever when we joined the forum we would have chosen a profile name as generic as "Casserole", "Pasta", "Protractor" or "Automobile". Even "Star wars" would have done it.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: MariaMx on August 31, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
Quote from: TessaM on August 31, 2012, 09:03:37 AM
Ya come to think of it... im wondering if this will have any negative impact on my future. Oh well, live and learn huh?
Probably not. Usually it would be people with a suspicion snooping around that would find anything, so unless that sort of thing is going on you'll be fine. I used to have an online transition with pictures and all back in 2003/2004. I've searched high and low but there's not a single shred left of it anywhere. For a while I debated whether to put up a profile picture of myself or not. I figured it'd be nice as it makes the person more real, but I did pick an older one (look a little bit different these days) and did some obfuscation just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Beth Andrea on August 31, 2012, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: MariaMx on August 31, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
Probably not. Usually it would be people with a suspicion snooping around that would find anything, so unless that sort of thing is going on you'll be fine. I used to have an online transition with pictures and all back in 2003/2004. I've searched high and low but there's not a single shred left of it anywhere. For a while I debated whether to put up a profile picture of myself or not. I figured it'd be nice as it makes the person more real, but I did pick an older one (look a little bit different these days) and did some obfuscation just to be on the safe side.

Did you try the Wayback Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php)?
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 01, 2012, 01:47:05 AM
Just hit that link:

https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=922&bih=554&q=Ax%C3%A9lle&oq=Ax%C3%A9lle&gs_l=img.3...1580.3656.0.5087.6.5.0.1.0.1.339.1282.0j2j0j3.5.0...0.0...1ac.41Hr2NdxT3M (https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=922&bih=554&q=Ax%C3%A9lle&oq=Ax%C3%A9lle&gs_l=img.3...1580.3656.0.5087.6.5.0.1.0.1.339.1282.0j2j0j3.5.0...0.0...1ac.41Hr2NdxT3M)

Then click on ANY of the pics you know (of me), and you'll see what was surprise I got.
Yes, I'm such an Innocent... I know. Just by typing my first name... eish!

Axx
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: MariaMx on September 01, 2012, 07:23:13 AM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on August 31, 2012, 03:57:26 PM
Did you try the Wayback Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php)?
Yes, there's nothing there.
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Beth Andrea on September 01, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
Mmm...maybe I could put nudies all over, as a sort of virtual, open portfolio...never know, I might get a reply to do movies!

Ahh, to be a star... 8)
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: Snowpaw on September 01, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Well luckily, it's likely these won't be found unless you are rather specific on a search. I have images of me out there I wish I could take back but at the same time, eh it's just my picture. I can probably say at least most of the forum doesn't have a sex tape floating around because of a vengeful ex lol. Oh well. :D
Title: Re: Our avatars now all over the web... eish!
Post by: caitlin_adams on September 02, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Whilst you can't easily remove images that other web servers have cached, if it's an image that Google Images has cached and it's your susans.org avatar you can have it removed.

First you must remove your avatar from your profile here on the forums. Once this has been done visit: http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=181721 (http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=181721) and follow the instructions.

Basically once your avatar is removed you need to ask Google to reindex the image that used to be there.

To do this you will need to find the exact URL of the image you wish to be removed from Google's cache ( it will look something like this: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=18056;type=avatar (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=18056;type=avatar) ). You will also need to have a Google account to make the request.