Susan's Place Transgender Resources

I'll kick it off. What else have you folks found?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtnisfxKZu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJnFpO7wOI

Jerry Cornelius who appeared in several of Michael Moercock's books and short stories.Jerry was later transformed into Cornelius Brunner when amalgamated with Miss Brunner.Can't remember much more but there was a film made of one book in the mid 70s

Lancer/Yellow-Dancer from the anime "Mospeda" later ported into "RoboTech".

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Considering the era, the mid-eighties, it is remarkable that an obvious transgender "cartoon character" made it thru censors and media acceptance. 

Quote from: dalebert on May 09, 2014, 05:48:31 AM
I'll kick it off. What else have you folks found?
Frozen songs snipped

Oh dear God, NOes!!!!  Kill them with fire! Kill them with fire! 

I have a 5 yr. old daughter and I hear that song. every. single. day.

:o

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Zoisite from Sailor Moon comes to mind. In the original Japanese series, Zoisite was a homosexual male character. Because the show came to the U.S. in the early to mid 90s ... well, we couldn't have that! So they changed Zoisite's voice so that he is a she in the English dub version. I think they did this kind of thing several times. Not sure if this is what you're talking about for the topic or not, but I thought they sounded like they count.

I'm showing my age here... but waaaay back in the dark ages (OK, the 1980s) Marvel Comics had a character named 'Cloud' who used to appear as either a male or female humanoid depending on the mood they were in. The character was a nebula that arrived on Earth and took on the forms of two different humans (a young couple who had died), so they could choose to present themselves as either male or female.

Cloud started out in the Defenders back in 1983, and I remember reading stories where the other characters were surprised to have said goodnight to a female Cloud at night, and when they come downstairs in the morning Cloud had shifted to male form just because they felt like it. And I remember thinking that that seemed like an amazing thing to be able to do.

Cloud went through a sort of puberty and started becoming attracted to people, and it was interesting to see the same character attracted to the same people whilst presenting as two different sexes. Pretty ground-breaking stuff for the era, if you ask me. As I recall, their behaviour was pretty much gender-neutral most of the time, although Marvel did experiment with Cloud behaving more stereotypically female whilst in female form, and more male whilst in male form.

The character was drawn pretty much naked apart from a few wispy bits of cloud covering the interesting bits, so I'm not entirely sure it's appropriate to post an image here.

Loki from Norse mythology. According to one of the stories, he spent a few years on Midgard as a milk maid among other things.
Loki from Marvel. He went by "she" and possessed Sif's body, disguised himself as the Scarlet Witch, and joined Lorelei for a heist as a woman named "Trixie."
Xavin from Marvel. He/she is a skrull who keeps shapeshifting from male to female and back and identifies as both. Until someone decided they couldn't have that anymore.
Mystique from Marvel as well although I don't think her gender identity changes. (Both Xavin and Loki have made comments about their gender being fluid and Loki has taken female form for extended periods of time which a cis person wouldn't.)
Orlando, of course.
Grell from Black Butler is a non-op trans woman. Many characters in Wandering Son are trans or crossdressers. Alucard has as many genders as all his familiars and can and does shapeshift into female form.
There are a lot more. I just can't think of them off the top of my head.

I know of some but this link will list some as well as explain what gender bender means but the short, easy and simple version is, gender bender means the character in the show/book/game etc. literally switches between a male and a female body (Their own, not to be confused with body swapping) throughout the series. Otherwise, if they switched to the opposite gender and don't go back or do but only once then that is a sex change. If they simply wear the opposite clothing of their body and still say they're the gender their body is then they're a cross dresser while if they wear clothing that's opposite of their body and say they're not the gender their body is then they're transgender. It's as simple as that. Here is the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_bender

Now as to the OP poster, he'll need to tell us if he meant any that includes transgender but since the name of the thread says gender bender, I can only assume only gender benders is what he wants posted?

Quote from: Amy The Bookworm on May 09, 2014, 08:20:58 AM
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Zoisite from Sailor Moon comes to mind. In the original Japanese series, Zoisite was a homosexual male character. Because the show came to the U.S. in the early to mid 90s ... well, we couldn't have that! So they changed Zoisite's voice so that he is a she in the English dub version. I think they did this kind of thing several times. Not sure if this is what you're talking about for the topic or not, but I thought they sounded like they count.

OH GAWD! I shouldn't be surprised seeing as I'm aware they edited the dub big time but, this, THIS!? I honestly thought she was a girl this whole time. *Speechless* Really though, imo in the dub she is a girl, Japanese though is another story. Anyway, I've heard in the final season of Sailor Moon which never got dubbed someone had a sex change (I've got a good guess who) but wouldn't know more and am still trying to get around to watching it.

Ranma Saotome from Ranma 1/2, my all time favorite manga. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mYiwjTq1SI

Blah... that video was giving me cavities.

Here's a counter point:

Makoto Kusanagi from GITS.

While she might be a "cis female", when you can put your brain into any random cybernetic body, that distinction becomes pretty meaningless.

http://youtu.be/j5_nPi9EGow

I guess I meant fan fiction different gender versions of popular fictional characters, but it's all good.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on May 09, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
I'm showing my age here... but waaaay back in the dark ages (OK, the 1980s) Marvel Comics had a character named 'Cloud' who used to appear as either a male or female humanoid depending on the mood they were in. The character was a nebula that arrived on Earth and took on the forms of two different humans (a young couple who had died), so they could choose to present themselves as either male or female.

Cloud started out in the Defenders back in 1983, and I remember reading stories where the other characters were surprised to have said goodnight to a female Cloud at night, and when they come downstairs in the morning Cloud had shifted to male form just because they felt like it. And I remember thinking that that seemed like an amazing thing to be able to do.

Cloud went through a sort of puberty and started becoming attracted to people, and it was interesting to see the same character attracted to the same people whilst presenting as two different sexes. Pretty ground-breaking stuff for the era, if you ask me. As I recall, their behaviour was pretty much gender-neutral most of the time, although Marvel did experiment with Cloud behaving more stereotypically female whilst in female form, and more male whilst in male form.

The character was drawn pretty much naked apart from a few wispy bits of cloud covering the interesting bits, so I'm not entirely sure it's appropriate to post an image here.

I remember Cloud very fondly (Moondragon took them under her wing for a while). I remember Bobby Drake coming on to F-Cloud and then being embarrassed when they became M-Cloud, making Cloud feel rejected, but they responded with some dignity, as I recall.

Quote from: dalebert on May 10, 2014, 10:37:00 AM
I guess I meant fan fiction different gender versions of popular fictional characters, but it's all good.

Oh ok. What is that? Internet "Rule #99" or something...

Quote from: JamesG on May 10, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
Oh ok. What is that? Internet "Rule #99" or something...

Rule #63 apparently (http://www.geekbomb.net/blogs/gender-bending-pop-culture-sakimi-chans-epic-rule-63-art/). Here's Ariel as a dood.

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@dalebert: Ah, I see now. I'm sure you can do a search for this and it'll turn up results. As for me, haven't done many of those so can't really name a lot atm. (Dang that Little Merman/fish is really good)

Quote from: dalebert on May 10, 2014, 11:25:02 AM

Quote from: JamesG on May 10, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
Oh ok. What is that? Internet "Rule #99" or something...

Rule #63 apparently (http://www.geekbomb.net/blogs/gender-bending-pop-culture-sakimi-chans-epic-rule-63-art/). Here's Ariel as a dood.

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Looks like Flounder had a sex change as well.  :laugh:

Myra/Myron Breckinridge

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So, I know this is an older topic but ...

Luke Skywalker at one time in pre-production for Star Wars A New Hope was going to be named Luka Starkiller, and was a woman. That's a production painting of her with the character that eventually wound up becoming Han solo and Obi-wan, Chewbacca with pointy ears and clothing, and R2-D2 and C-3PO. ... And now that I think about it, 3PO looks remarkably feminine in that picture as well.

Quote from: Shana-chan on May 10, 2014, 09:40:47 AMOH GAWD! I shouldn't be surprised seeing as I'm aware they edited the dub big time but, this, THIS!? I honestly thought she was a girl this whole time. *Speechless* Really though, imo in the dub she is a girl, Japanese though is another story. Anyway, I've heard in the final season of Sailor Moon which never got dubbed someone had a sex change (I've got a good guess who) but wouldn't know more and am still trying to get around to watching it.

Also, Neptune and Uranus (I don't know their names) are "cousins" and Neptune was kissing "Brad." Because hinting at incest is somehow better than calling them lesbians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzjXrEiQqQ#t=11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzjXrEiQqQ#t=11)

Erica Porcupine. a transgirl from my Get Along Gang fanfics. I didn't draw her, though. Kytri here on the forums drew her (along with 2 other original characters of mine and a teenage version of Portia Porcupine).

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Disney Ariel is really hot as a guy. I think I'd like him to have a tad more chest hair, though.

Even without the "fanfiction version of popular characters" caveat, I can't think of a lot of gender bending examples. When I was a kid I remember finding girls who pretended to be boys in fairytales, but never the other way around, and I think it was usually pretty heavily implied that they only pretended to be boys so they could get full human rights or marry princesses.

Quote from: Felix on June 23, 2014, 01:41:23 AM
Even without the "fanfiction version of popular characters" caveat, I can't think of a lot of gender bending examples. When I was a kid I remember finding girls who pretended to be boys in fairytales, but never the other way around, and I think it was usually pretty heavily implied that they only pretended to be boys so they could get full human rights or marry princesses.

Like Viola from Twelfth Night.

Fan fic wise? I really haven't seen a lot of gender bending outside of Loki. There is a decent fan base for Tony Stark's female form because in the comics during the Civil War run Reed was viewing alternate realities and in one of them a female Tony was married to Steve Rogers. I don't see it often but the fic is out there and Tony's pretty pansexual as it is. Thought I'd mention it even though the true fan base for that is Superhusbands lol.

Also male Ariel is hot!  :o

Quote from: Silver Centurion on June 23, 2014, 01:49:36 AM
There is a decent fan base for Tony Stark's female form because in the comics during the Civil War run Reed was viewing alternate realities and in one of them a female Tony was married to Steve Rogers. I don't see it often but the fic is out there and Tony's pretty pansexual as it is. Thought I'd mention it even though the true fan base for that is Superhusbands lol.

Yeah...it was a pretty weird timeline...but spawned an amazing volume of "Iron Woman" fan art xD

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Quote from: Felix on June 23, 2014, 01:41:23 AM
Disney Ariel is really hot as a guy. I think I'd like him to have a tad more chest hair, though.

Hair increases friction in the water!

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on June 23, 2014, 12:22:58 AM
Erica Porcupine. a transgirl from my Get Along Gang fanfics. I didn't draw her, though. Kytri here on the forums drew her (along with 2 other original characters of mine and a teenage version of Portia Porcupine).

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Oh, is she related to Portia?

I've some female cosplays of the Avengers. Awhile ago, I also saw some female cosplays of Bilbo and the dwarves (minus beards) from The Hobbit.
http://geektyrant.com/news/women-cosplay-as-male-characters-from-the-hobbit (http://geektyrant.com/news/women-cosplay-as-male-characters-from-the-hobbit)

Quote from: Edge on June 23, 2014, 09:44:59 AM
I also saw some female cosplays of Bilbo and the dwarves (minus beards) from The Hobbit.

Odd. I believe Tolkien's female dwarves are also supposed to have beards. How's that for gender bending?

Quote from: Felix on June 23, 2014, 01:41:23 AM
Disney Ariel is really hot as a guy. I think I'd like him to have a tad more chest hair, though.

Even without the "fanfiction version of popular characters" caveat, I can't think of a lot of gender bending examples. When I was a kid I remember finding girls who pretended to be boys in fairytales, but never the other way around, and I think it was usually pretty heavily implied that they only pretended to be boys so they could get full human rights or marry princesses.

eeeww NO! No chest hair, eeewww (sorry, it turns me off sort to speak) Plus as was said, it slows you down in water. I'm not attracted to guys but, even I can admit when someone is hot..

Yea, such as Mulan to Ping in order to get into the army to keep her father alive who is too old to be in the war and now that you mention it, I too can't think of any fairytales with guys being girls, only girls being guys..

Quote from: Edge on June 23, 2014, 12:16:23 AM
Also, Neptune and Uranus (I don't know their names) are "cousins" and Neptune was kissing "Brad." Because hinting at incest is somehow better than calling them lesbians.

Yea no, I was already aware of this fact but until I watched that vid, it never bothered me but now it DOES bother me, a lot actually and it's discomforting really. I'm just glad the new remastered version will have a new dub with no cuts and all the original text/scenes and such, including the long awaited Sailor Stars season is finally being dubbed in all it's glory! I'm just, waiting for that dub to be released and, I'll probably watch all 200 episodes..

To the bolded, perhaps incest was more talked about/shown back then than gay/lesbian stuff was? Otherwise, yea, stupid and makes no sense. Then again, Rini was always clinging in a loving way to her Dad and calling him her boyfriend and such and there WAS that scene where Rini was grown up and kissing her Dad on the mouth >_> (I don't mind this, but for them to show this and edit lesbian and other such stuff..)

One of my favorites, I found out about Moyashimon's Kei Yuki from a post here.

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Poison from Final Fight/Street Fighter is supposed to be trans too.

Claybourne Humphries of Are You Being Served?  Classic.

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My book serial does feature a tonne of LGBTs, and I have a feeling that the protagonist, Connor, will transition later in the serial.  She's a cis-woman, but very masculine.  I think that's why her pansexual male lover is so attracted to her.  Connor and Kenton both love to flip off 'traditional gender roles' by any means possible.

Quote from: FA on June 23, 2014, 09:34:21 AM
Oh, is she related to Portia?

No. She moved to Green Meadow from the small town of Pine Corners due to the constant harassment that she dealt with there. Pine Corners was a tiny mountain town that actually existed in the Get Along Gang world. Portia does have a younger cousin that I created named Patricia that lives in Pine Corners. Dotty Dog also has a younger cousin that lives in Pine Corners, as well. Her name is Doris. Those two characters are latter grade school age. So, they would have never crossed paths with Erica since she was a Freshman in high school. She has plenty of friends at this point (not to mention a couple of friends that are more than willing to kick some ass in her defense if that situation arises.) I also started a subplot of sorts since she's become the girlfriend to Bingo Beaver.

Quote from: Christine Eryn on June 23, 2014, 12:02:38 PM
One of my favorites, I found out about Moyashimon's Kei Yuki from a post here.

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Poison from Final Fight/Street Fighter is supposed to be trans too.

#rant coming

WHY! Why is it every time there is a transgender and or gender bender character in the anime it never get's a dang dub! It really ticks me off!! >:(

#end rant
#sorry for derailing the thread a bit, carry on

Quote from: Shana-chan on June 23, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
#rant coming

WHY! Why is it every time there is a transgender and or gender bender character in the anime it never get's a dang dub! It really ticks me off!! >:(

#end rant
#sorry for derailing the thread a bit, carry on

Both Hellsing and Black Butler have been dubbed. Alucard from Hellsing at one point takes the form of a teenage girl. Grell from Black Butler is a non-op trans woman.

Quote from: Edge on June 23, 2014, 04:21:46 PM
Both Hellsing and Black Butler have been dubbed. Alucard from Hellsing at one point takes the form of a teenage girl. Grell from Black Butler is a non-op trans woman.

I knew about Grell but, I don't care for Hellsing, anyway, that's two and I just remembered there is a trans person in Haganai but aside from these three anime (And ranma) there are so many more that never get a dub. :(

Quote from: Shana-chan on May 10, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
OH GAWD! I shouldn't be surprised seeing as I'm aware they edited the dub big time but, this, THIS!? I honestly thought she was a girl this whole time. *Speechless* Really though, imo in the dub she is a girl, Japanese though is another story. Anyway, I've heard in the final season of Sailor Moon which never got dubbed someone had a sex change (I've got a good guess who) but wouldn't know more and am still trying to get around to watching it.

In the last season of Sailor Moon, there's a few characters who are male when out just doing their thing, but when they use their abilities, they turn into women. And yeah, that's why the last season was never brought over in any form. I think they're going to release it fairly soon though.

Quote from: Amy The Bookworm on June 24, 2014, 12:52:03 AM
In the last season of Sailor Moon, there's a few characters who are male when out just doing their thing, but when they use their abilities, they turn into women. And yeah, that's why the last season was never brought over in any form. I think they're going to release it fairly soon though.

Actually, in the manga they were never male anatomically, and when the anime happened and they did that to them it displeased (I forget the person's name) the person because it went again their wishes because their rule was that only females could be Sailor Senshi (Sailor Scouts for the dub). Also, the real reason why the last season was never dubbed is because Toei Animation never put it up for licensing, thus, they couldn't dub it. I won't lie when I say I question that though, as well as why they didn't put it up for licensing and yeah, the new remastered dub is supposed to come out this Aug. I believe it was.

Quote from: dalebert on May 10, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
Rule #63 apparently (http://www.geekbomb.net/blogs/gender-bending-pop-culture-sakimi-chans-epic-rule-63-art/). Here's Ariel as a dood.

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some people belive the little mermaid was written with HC using himself decribing the love he could never get from collin. in that sense Ariel is kinda a gender-bender character no matter how its put.
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theres alot of gender-bender characters from manga and anime but right now, what comes to my mind is mustique from Xmen.

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Axl from The Almighty Johnsons accidentally turns himself into a girl in one episode.

In the Marvel Ultimate universe (an alternate reality than the main Marvel storyline), Jessica Drew/Black Widow is a clone of Peter Parker.  She was created in a lab by Doc Oc and even has the memories of Peter Parker.  She says she has a female body, but has retained Peter's male mind, including an affinity for redheaded women.  She seems pretty comfortable with herself as she is though.

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From what I've read, there's no evidence at all that Edvard was "disgusted", he just didn't feel the same way - in fact, he wrote in his memoir "I found myself unable to respond to this love, and this caused the author much suffering."

There was an X-men storyline in an alternative universe where several members had their sexes permanently altered. Took them a whileto get used to it, since it wasnt reverseble.

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Virginia Woolf's 1927 Book "Orlando", and the 1992 movie version.

Orlando starts off as an androgynous male.  Midway through the book he falls into a coma-like state and emerges as a woman.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/

Orlando: "Same person. No difference at all... just a different sex."

Team Rocket Pokemon Jessi and James were total gender benders! XD

Mello in Death Note is gorgeous and very androgynous in presentation.

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There's a part in Soul Eater where they change sexes as well.
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Hange (a scientist) from Attack on Titan has no defined gender, but is usually referred to with female pronouns in the anime. The manga blurs the lines more.

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Grell (a grim reaper) from Black Butler is transgender. Some fans mistakenly believe Grell is gay and crossdresses because she's in "guy mode" once in a while, but that's not the case.

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Kuranosuke from Princess Jellyfish crossdresses (don't remember Kuranosuke's gender identity - I think male). I don't usually like this type of anime, but it's surprisingly funny.

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Crona from Soul Eater also doesn't have a known gender, but some of the fans keep arguing about it.

Quote from: Padma on June 26, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
From what I've read, there's no evidence at all that Edvard was "disgusted", he just didn't feel the same way - in fact, he wrote in his memoir "I found myself unable to respond to this love, and this caused the author much suffering."

I am not sure either since I can't find this paticular letter decribed in the picture which should be written around 1836(not 19th thats a spelling mistake) I posted the picture to make a long story short.

I would sure tell you if I find it but
it difficult to find the original letter because the general fact of him being queer is taboo and because they wrotte ALOT of letters, also many which was never sent.
reading other of his letters its diffently clear that He was very drawn to him and felt a deep love toward him while edvard seams to have felt more of a regular friendship felling. edvard was also marrige and had kids, in some way you could say edvard always keep his distance and turned andersen down. Andersens letter where alot longer and very deep with emotions and he used many powerfull ways to end his letter like:
"your always by hearted andersen" or "your andersen" where edward letters where shorter and not that overly emotional usunally with a "your honest friend edward" or "your loyal friend"

and he once asked to use the prononce of "you" while speaking, but edvard refused that which anderson never forgot. Back then saying "you" to others was a very big thing. you only did that with someone you was really close to.

kazuki from get backers http://youtu.be/ZGQISgwuo4U

http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/suzumiya-haruhi-yare-yare-kyonko-doujinshi-r12328
haruhiko and kyonko. it should be impossible to not find that genderbend.

dr.ten has a nice doujin of a genderbent roy from fullmetal alchmist. and there's much else to find when allowing the slightly more perverted.

heavenly kings are cute as queens.
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hard gay vs blondie
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/211565/karate-shoukoushi-kohinata-minoru_v23_ch243_by_deadbeat-scans/6
match ends in a sudden outing.

a quite interesting manga.
http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/after-school-nightmare-r2132

still one of my favorites. always interesting to see a bigender character.
http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/family-compo-r870

this one has a trans person somewhere in it. the anime has it too.
http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/level-e-r4946

a father doing an honest attempt at understanding his daughter (seto no hanayome).
http://youtu.be/NodaKOlKq0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIQr_TrFTUk

Look! It's Elsa as a twink!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9NklgfH_4

D'eon De Beaumont feom Chevalier D'eon. His sister was murdered then merged with her brother's soul. Gorgeous anime and based on real people from the 1700's. I highly recommend it.

the manga/anime Hourou Musuko (wandering son) is about 2 transgender children. I cried a lot watching the anime because scenes really hit close to home and reminded me of events in my childhood.

Quote from: Rainbow Brite on July 05, 2014, 04:14:56 PM


the manga/anime Hourou Musuko (wandering son) is about 2 transgender children. I cried a lot watching the anime because scenes really hit close to home and reminded me of events in my childhood.

Ah, someone else here has seen it. I'm still trying to finish the manga (Might take a long time) but the anime, well, that ending *SPOILER ALERT* I was NOT pleased with how they made it seem like the MC just accepted their fate and as if it didn't bother them in the end. I didn't like how the anime portrayed trans people when you compare it to the real world. In the manga, that wasn't the case and while I forget what was said by said MC in the anime, I DO KNOW she never said it in the manga, which is what gets to me.. *End spoiler alert* Other wise, it was real good, done well and, I really enjoyed/liked it. I was seriously worried it'd make me depressed, cry and so on but none of that happened for me and it was really light hearted. :)

There is a transwoman called Chaplin Sukegawara in the manga Deadman Wonderland and she is one of the major side characters of the story.

http://deadmanwonderland.wikia.com/wiki/Chaplin_Sukegawa

I was actually quite impressed with the way she was handled as I thought she overall actually fit and was quite authentic in terms of general trans(woman) experience.

Then I of course think of Laurence Anyways and The Skin I Live In that both explicitly choose to explore the trans experience in their respective ways, but I am not sure if those are the kinds of characters and stories the OP is specifically looking for. Otherwise MtF genderbending isn't that uncommon.

Then there's Ranma ½ that's a famous shonen anime/manga whose main character changes between male and female personas. I also think of Poison from the Street Fighter franchise who is also an interesting character in that she's infamous due to her trans status within gaming  circles. Not sure I'd really count Birdie from the Super Mario 2 game in there.

Mantra from Malibu Comics came out around 1993-94, which were major years for my dysphoria/denial/depression. One to look up to in those days, that's for sure!

"The warrior-mage Lukasz was reincarnated as a woman, much to his chagrin. He learns to accept his new fate over time, and continues to fight ancient evil."
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Lord Fanny from the Invisibles comics (I have the whole series but have yet to read it) is trans as well...
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I love the anime, manga and Marvel stuff, but as a vintage comic buff I can say for certain that gender bending got quite a start in the Silver Age with DC comics, believe it or not. Superman's buddy Jimmy Olsen was apparently an adept crossdresser, often finding excuses to "disguise" himself as a girl-- always with very convincing results.

In one classic Superboy changed temporarily into a cute Supergirl and in the '70s Superman occasionally turned up a superwoman. What got me was the costume always changed into a perfectly styled feminine version, too.

~ Lyric ~

I just noticed the resemblance. Is anyone else seeing it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7xIU67wv7I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9NklgfH_4

Birdie the Mighty. The main hero is joined with a female space police officer. Its a great anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xGmx4K81Hc

They're not exactly fictional, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdhXxxWREo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdhXxxWREo)

Yasaburō, in the anime Uchouten Kazoku ( The Eccentric Family)  can transform at will from a tanuki and his usual male self to a young woman.  His mother enjoys presenting as male as well.

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This is a bit of a stretch for this thread, but Marvel announced yesterday that this fall Thor will be found unworthy of his hammer, Mjolnir, and it will choose a female to be the new God of Thunder.  It is being said that she will not be She-Thor, Lady Thor, or Thorina; she will simply be THOR.

(Though she still has unfeasibly large breastplate stuff going on, because Odin forbid that a Marvel female deity be realistically woman-shaped, sigh...)

Quote from: Padma on July 16, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
(Though she still has unfeasibly large breastplate stuff going on, because Odin forbid that a Marvel female deity be realistically woman-shaped, sigh...)

It doesn't really make it better, but fwiw, Thor and almost every other male superhero is also completely unrealistically shaped.

That's true, of course, but then they tend to be just daftly bulgy rather than sexualised to the point of defying physics :).

Quote from: Padma on July 16, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
(Though she still has unfeasibly large breastplate stuff going on, because Odin forbid that a Marvel female deity be realistically woman-shaped, sigh...)

That may be true, but at least it covers her entire torso.  That is major progress from the cleavage-baring armor normally seen in nerdy fiction.

Quote from: Padma on July 16, 2014, 07:54:41 AM
That's true, of course, but then they tend to be just daftly bulgy rather than sexualised to the point of defying physics :).

I would argue they are still sexualized in the sense of being hypersexual but their target audience just don't happen to be women but other men who are supposed to appreciate how they represent and depict male power fantasies. One can of course argue the interesting possibly homoerotic subtext of that but perhaps for another thread.

For sure, I'm not saying the men aren't somewhat eroticised too, but the women are put in these mad poses to make their boobs and bums stick out, which would in real life would just make them fall over and require osteopaths. And their individual breasts are often bigger than their waists :). Bleh.

Quote from: Padma on July 17, 2014, 10:14:30 AMbut the women are put in these mad poses to make their boobs and bums stick out, which would in real life would just make them fall over and require osteopaths.

I've seen pictures of men like that. There is one of Daredevil that comes to mind. Seriously, people, people do not twist that way.

Speaking of Thor, http://geekxgirls.com/article.php?ID=2752 (http://geekxgirls.com/article.php?ID=2752)