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Title: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
Post by: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
(Edited to a much shorter form)
I'm an 18 year old male who is pretty confused and has a couple of questions.
Since a very young age I have some pretty weird interests. I remember loving to wear my grandma's pantyhose, loving it when girls would try to "dress me up" as part of games, and to this day I've been a massive fan of fantasy stories about male-to-female transformations. Whenever I play a video game I choose a female character, and I would enjoy pretending to be female as well. I would sometimes catch myself in feminine postures and there was even a point where I would watch the ways guys walked and try to replicate their movements (possible social anxiety).
I've noticed that I'm a girl in many of my dreams (maybe this is normal), and whenever I fantasize about something I usually take a female form.
That being said, I don't hate being male. I'm not exactly a "man's man" but I'm not what you'd call feminine. I'm attracted to girls after all.
So what does this mean exactly? Am I a pervert? Do I have some kind of trans fetish or something?
Or am I transgender? I read some similar posts on this site but I still don't know.
Many thanks, David.
I'm an 18 year old male who is pretty confused and has a couple of questions.
Since a very young age I have some pretty weird interests. I remember loving to wear my grandma's pantyhose, loving it when girls would try to "dress me up" as part of games, and to this day I've been a massive fan of fantasy stories about male-to-female transformations. Whenever I play a video game I choose a female character, and I would enjoy pretending to be female as well. I would sometimes catch myself in feminine postures and there was even a point where I would watch the ways guys walked and try to replicate their movements (possible social anxiety).
I've noticed that I'm a girl in many of my dreams (maybe this is normal), and whenever I fantasize about something I usually take a female form.
That being said, I don't hate being male. I'm not exactly a "man's man" but I'm not what you'd call feminine. I'm attracted to girls after all.
So what does this mean exactly? Am I a pervert? Do I have some kind of trans fetish or something?
Or am I transgender? I read some similar posts on this site but I still don't know.
Many thanks, David.
Title: Re: What am I?
Post by: Pauline01 on July 18, 2015, 01:58:07 PM
Post by: Pauline01 on July 18, 2015, 01:58:07 PM
I think the only way you're going to find out is if you find the right therapist and start talking to them about it
Eat Drink And Be Mary
Eat Drink And Be Mary
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: suzifrommd on July 18, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on July 18, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
I certainly don't think you're a "pervert". Pervert is a negative term. If what you have is indeed sexual preferences or fetishes, they are harmless (and a beautiful part of you) and don't deserve a negative label.
Are you trans? I can't answer obviously, but I'd ask whether you've ever gone beyond fantasizing and pretending and actually want to be female, or are you happy being male?
If you're happy being male, leave well enough alone and enjoy your life and sexual interests.
If not, maybe time to pay a visit to a gender therapist.
Are you trans? I can't answer obviously, but I'd ask whether you've ever gone beyond fantasizing and pretending and actually want to be female, or are you happy being male?
If you're happy being male, leave well enough alone and enjoy your life and sexual interests.
If not, maybe time to pay a visit to a gender therapist.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Mariah on July 18, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
Post by: Mariah on July 18, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
Hi David, welcome to Susan's. Everyone falls in a different spot and it's very possible that your trans. I certainly wouldn't think your the other word you mentioned. A good therapist could help you sort this out. I look forward to seeing you around the forums. Good luck and Hugs
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Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Devlyn on July 18, 2015, 08:26:10 PM
Post by: Devlyn on July 18, 2015, 08:26:10 PM
"Am I a pervert?"
I'm going to have to tie you up to answer that! >:-) Just kidding! :laugh: Welcome to Susan's Place, David! I agree that pervert is a pretty extreme label. Just find yourself, be yourself, that's the best approach. See you around the site!
Hugs, Devlyn
I'm going to have to tie you up to answer that! >:-) Just kidding! :laugh: Welcome to Susan's Place, David! I agree that pervert is a pretty extreme label. Just find yourself, be yourself, that's the best approach. See you around the site!
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Ms Grace on July 18, 2015, 08:30:52 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on July 18, 2015, 08:30:52 PM
Society likes to create non-sensical rules around gender and then make anyone who "transgresses" (no pun intended) feel like there's something wrong with them. Being transgender doesn't mean you have to be a girly girl (many cis gender women are not either) and it doesn't mean that you can't be attracted to women (a lot of cis gender women are attracted to women too). So no, you're not a pervert, but you are carrying around a lot of doubts and fears and possibly a few misconceptions so it would be good to have a chat with a gender therapist or counsellor to sort out how you really perceive your gender identity and how you want to express it.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 09:11:58 PM
Post by: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 09:11:58 PM
Thanks for the responses!
I do agree that "pervert" is a strong word, and I probably should have worded my concerns better.
While I would love to talk to a gender therapist I honestly don't see that as an option at the moment. I have no idea how to get in contact with one, especially without my parents taking notice.
Although I doubt my parents would make a huge deal out of it, I don't want to discuss the topic with them until I'm sure of myself.
I do agree that "pervert" is a strong word, and I probably should have worded my concerns better.
While I would love to talk to a gender therapist I honestly don't see that as an option at the moment. I have no idea how to get in contact with one, especially without my parents taking notice.
Although I doubt my parents would make a huge deal out of it, I don't want to discuss the topic with them until I'm sure of myself.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Devlyn on July 18, 2015, 09:19:16 PM
Post by: Devlyn on July 18, 2015, 09:19:16 PM
I've never been to a therapist, and I'm a happily balanced person. If you ever decide to surgically transition a therapist is probably going to be required, but you don't need one to live your life as you. Trust me. :)
Hugs, Devlyn
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: goblin boy on July 19, 2015, 01:15:55 AM
Post by: goblin boy on July 19, 2015, 01:15:55 AM
i think you should try talking to someone you're close to (or someone online in the trans community if you arent comfortable talking with friends/family) about it if you dont want to go to a therapist. talking things out is a good way to get on the right track to figuring things out. or you could do what i did, just (try) not to worry about it and go with the flow of life until everything falls into place in your mind and you start to understand your feelings on your own.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 07:27:40 AM
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 07:27:40 AM
Here are a few resources that might help you:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,191620.msg1708270.html#msg1708270
Inside is a hint to a brochure which states being tg has biological connections... to do with brain development before birth...
they talk about some cases of the transgender spectrum...
so you are one of many...
you might talk at school or uni to a counselor you trust...
and you might say at home you want some counseling, for emotional reasons...
and pick someone who has, amongst others, gender on their list.
If its connected with depression or emotional issues it might be covered.
hugs
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,191620.msg1708270.html#msg1708270
Inside is a hint to a brochure which states being tg has biological connections... to do with brain development before birth...
they talk about some cases of the transgender spectrum...
so you are one of many...
you might talk at school or uni to a counselor you trust...
and you might say at home you want some counseling, for emotional reasons...
and pick someone who has, amongst others, gender on their list.
If its connected with depression or emotional issues it might be covered.
hugs
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
Post by: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
Thanks again for the replies, but I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple more questions.
I've never really had depression or anything like that. I was quite a happy person during puberty (other than pretty bad social anxiety), but I've found that I have had increasing amounts of suicidal thoughts as of late. All passive of course; I don't really want to kill myself. I've also found it harder and harder to get through the day. Things that used to interest me seem meaningless and I just don't see the point of doing anything.
Is it possible the feelings are being caused by gender dysphoria, or is this a form of unrelated depression?
I've never really had depression or anything like that. I was quite a happy person during puberty (other than pretty bad social anxiety), but I've found that I have had increasing amounts of suicidal thoughts as of late. All passive of course; I don't really want to kill myself. I've also found it harder and harder to get through the day. Things that used to interest me seem meaningless and I just don't see the point of doing anything.
Is it possible the feelings are being caused by gender dysphoria, or is this a form of unrelated depression?
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Dena on July 19, 2015, 12:00:30 PM
Post by: Dena on July 19, 2015, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 11:29:54 AMDepression and gender dysphoria go hand in hand with many of us and treating GD is the best treatment for depression I have ever found.
Thanks again for the replies, but I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple more questions.
I've never really had depression or anything like that. I was quite a happy person during puberty (other than pretty bad social anxiety), but I've found that I have had increasing amounts of suicidal thoughts as of late. All passive of course; I don't really want to kill myself. I've also found it harder and harder to get through the day. Things that used to interest me seem meaningless and I just don't see the point of doing anything.
Is it possible the feelings are being caused by gender dysphoria, or is this a form of unrelated depression?
We tend to develop and handle GD different from each other. I had strong GD and depression almost from the first day puberty kicked it off. You will see people discovering themselves at age 50 or 60 on this web site living a normal life up to now. There are also 3 and 4 year old children who know something isn't right with the world and are doing their best to correct it.
It would be best for you to start treating the GD and if the depression is a problem, as the doctor for something short term to help the depression until you are a bit farther along. People here who were treated for depression are finding they no longer need the depression medication as they make progress in their treatment of GD.
I lived with my depression for a long time because I was in the closet and the truth is the medication that was available wasn't that good. This should be discussed with your doctor to find the best solution for you.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMI'll try and answer your questions, and clear up some of your confusions.
I'm an 18 year old male who is pretty confused and has a couple of questions.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMOk I wasnt exacly the same as this, but similar, for me it was my sisters
Since a very young age I have some pretty weird interests. I remember loving to wear my grandma's pantyhose,
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMI was exacly the same as this and willing took part in them, up untill my dad would shout and tell of my older sisters, since then I pretended to not like it and made litle effort to resist.
loving it when girls would try to "dress me up" as part of games,
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMI wasnt a fan hear, but I did have the though "if only I could do that" when ever I saw this kind of thing.
to this day I've been a massive fan of fantasy stories about male-to-female transformations.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMI do too, but I know a lot of guys that use fem chars, either because they want to use a caster and female chars have better stats and skills for casters. And for other guys its because customizability optuon are virtually none exsistant for male characters. Other reasons are that they want a character that they think looks cool and the male options are not to their taste.
Whenever I play a video game I choose a female character,
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMThis I didnt do, I never said to anybody I was a girl, I just didnt advertise who I was to anybody, we asked If I was a girl, I simply said my charter was.
and I would enjoy pretending to be female as well.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMAll the time, I cought myself, I smiled at it :), there was even times my step brother would catch me and say things like, are you sure you wasnt supposed to be a girl.
I would sometimes catch myself in feminine postures
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMHere I was different, I tried to replicate female movments.
there was even a point where I would watch the ways guys walked and try to replicate their movements (possible social anxiety).
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMThis was the same for me.
I've noticed that I'm a girl in many of my dreams (maybe this is normal), and whenever I fantasize about something I usually take a female form.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMBeing atracted to girls doesnt define your gender, who your atrcted to is you secuality
That being said, I don't hate being male. I'm not exactly a "man's man" but I'm not what you'd call feminine. I'm attracted to girls after all.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMIt means, that you remember those things, and have done or do those things. Because you have done, do and remember those things, you want to know why, feeling that it makes you different. So Ill ask you this, apart from the occational female posture, is ther any way, anybody would be able to tell these thing about you, if you didnt tell them? I dont think so, so by looking at another man, you wouldnt know if they did these things aswell. But in society we have things called gender norms, these things have us beleve that man are like this, and woman are like that. But if we focus too much on these things, all it causes is us ourselves to notice the ways in which we dont conform to them.
So what does this mean exactly?
It means that because you remeber, have done and do these things, things that you wouldnt ascociate with the male spectrum your confused about your position on the gender spectrum.
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PMI'm going to embolden some key words that you said, these are why I dont think you are transgender, ill list them below too.
Or am I transgender?
You say
"I'm an 18 year old male"
"I would enjoy pretending to be female"
"I don't hate being male."
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
I read some similar posts on this site but I still don't know.
I think that as long as you have no issue being male, there is no need to do anything in the likes of transtion.
Are you a pervert, Im not one :P
EDIT: just because I dont think you are transgender, doesnt mean you not, If these issues are genuinly causing deep sadness within you, I sugest you find, a trustworthy person to talk these things through. You will always be welcome to talk about these kind of issues here, transgender or not.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
You say
"I'm an 18 year old male"
"I would enjoy pretending to be female"
"I don't hate being male."
This points to crossdresser imo... and according to many people crossdressers belong to the tg umbrella... its an umbrella term...
You might look for some counseling, preferably with people from lgbt places... like from a lgbt center...
there might be support groups there...
and there might be a gsa at school or uni, with other tg people, so a few talks would be possible...
hugs
"I'm an 18 year old male"
"I would enjoy pretending to be female"
"I don't hate being male."
This points to crossdresser imo... and according to many people crossdressers belong to the tg umbrella... its an umbrella term...
You might look for some counseling, preferably with people from lgbt places... like from a lgbt center...
there might be support groups there...
and there might be a gsa at school or uni, with other tg people, so a few talks would be possible...
hugs
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Yenneffer on July 19, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
Post by: Yenneffer on July 19, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 02:06:41 PMi agree 100%
You say
"I'm an 18 year old male"
"I would enjoy pretending to be female"
"I don't hate being male."
This points to crossdresser imo... and according to many people crossdressers belong to the tg umbrella... its an umbrella term...
You might look for some counseling, preferably with people from lgbt places... like from a lgbt center...
there might be support groups there...
and there might be a gsa at school or uni, with other tg people, so a few talks would be possible...
hugs
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: bibilinda on July 19, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
Post by: bibilinda on July 19, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
Hello!
A "pervert" in a broad definition as it stands today on Wikipedia, is a "person who manifests sexual behaviors that are considered particularly abnormal, repulsive or obsessive."
But you may ask, CONSIDERED BY WHOM, anyways?
Continuing on with this cited definition,
"It is often considered derogatory, and, in psychological literature, the term paraphilia has been used as a replacement, though this term is controversial, and deviation is sometimes used in its place"
Since paraphilia is used as a synonym to "sexual deviation" by some psychiatrists, mostly those who tend to be controversial in their views, it would be interesting for you to check this phrase on Wikipedia as well: "List of paraphilias". There you will see an extensive list with "atypical sexual interests in objects, situations, or individuals."
So, read them all if you wish. If you fit into any of those, then you would be considered a "pervert" at least by Wikipedia, citing Anil Aggrawal's 2009 book that compiled a list of 547 terms describing paraphilic sexual interests.
As you can see, it seems that pervert is being, at least according to Wikipedia, reduced to a sexual-orientation-related term only.
So those extremely close-minded people such as religious zealots, or ultra-conservative ignorants, seem to be the only ones who actually amplify the term to areas other than sexual orientation, including dressing up in "the other gender's" clothing. They see this as an aberration, as sort of a sacrilege, specially when what they call "men" (including transsexuals, such ignorants these zealot people are) do it, as opposed to when biological women do it, because they are so absorbed in their utter ignorance and unwillingness to use their brains just a little bit and open their minds.
I think you may sure be a transgender person, even if CURRENTLY social pressure makes you deny it, by saying that "you are a man" and "you are comfortable with it" and still calling yourself David even on here. I would think that, because of male privilege at that particular young age and trying to avoid losing your current social status, the respect of your family and friends, as well as the prospect of maybe becoming wealthy or well-to-do financially, it is the comfortable thing to "feel like", for the moment. It certainly apparently easily beats doing a 360-degree change to your current life, because that is exactly what you do when you transition into a transsexual individual, just as many of us have or at least are trying to do it with all our hearts.
But you should really consider this: do you only like to dress up as a girl/woman, or would you actually like to HAVE THE BODY of a woman in real life, not just wear the clothing and dream about it sometimes? Do you hate having male genitalia in reality, when you see yourself in the mirror, before going to get in the shower, but can take it because you still find it more convenient, socially, at the moment? When you see a pretty and very feminine woman, do you think more of BEING like her, rather than having her as your sexual partner?
Just some food for thought here. Everybody is different. But those dreams and behaviors of yours, must have some meaning, and probably you are just minimizing its importance for now, because just considering going through a transition would mess up your whole life as it is, and I don't blame you for not taking such a huge risk. Also, at your age, testosterone may mess you up pretty bad, by causing conflicting ideas and feelings in your brain.
I don't mean to confuse you any further by all this rhetoric. Yet as many stated before, if you can find some counseling in the LGBT community or the psychiatric field, specifically somebody specialized in gender identity issues, it would be best for you. Probably on YouTube you could find some Gender Identity confusion channels that could open your eyes a bit more, by addressing some of your specific concerns.
I wish you lots of luck finding out who you really are!
Cheers
Bibi B.
A "pervert" in a broad definition as it stands today on Wikipedia, is a "person who manifests sexual behaviors that are considered particularly abnormal, repulsive or obsessive."
But you may ask, CONSIDERED BY WHOM, anyways?
Continuing on with this cited definition,
"It is often considered derogatory, and, in psychological literature, the term paraphilia has been used as a replacement, though this term is controversial, and deviation is sometimes used in its place"
Since paraphilia is used as a synonym to "sexual deviation" by some psychiatrists, mostly those who tend to be controversial in their views, it would be interesting for you to check this phrase on Wikipedia as well: "List of paraphilias". There you will see an extensive list with "atypical sexual interests in objects, situations, or individuals."
So, read them all if you wish. If you fit into any of those, then you would be considered a "pervert" at least by Wikipedia, citing Anil Aggrawal's 2009 book that compiled a list of 547 terms describing paraphilic sexual interests.
As you can see, it seems that pervert is being, at least according to Wikipedia, reduced to a sexual-orientation-related term only.
So those extremely close-minded people such as religious zealots, or ultra-conservative ignorants, seem to be the only ones who actually amplify the term to areas other than sexual orientation, including dressing up in "the other gender's" clothing. They see this as an aberration, as sort of a sacrilege, specially when what they call "men" (including transsexuals, such ignorants these zealot people are) do it, as opposed to when biological women do it, because they are so absorbed in their utter ignorance and unwillingness to use their brains just a little bit and open their minds.
I think you may sure be a transgender person, even if CURRENTLY social pressure makes you deny it, by saying that "you are a man" and "you are comfortable with it" and still calling yourself David even on here. I would think that, because of male privilege at that particular young age and trying to avoid losing your current social status, the respect of your family and friends, as well as the prospect of maybe becoming wealthy or well-to-do financially, it is the comfortable thing to "feel like", for the moment. It certainly apparently easily beats doing a 360-degree change to your current life, because that is exactly what you do when you transition into a transsexual individual, just as many of us have or at least are trying to do it with all our hearts.
But you should really consider this: do you only like to dress up as a girl/woman, or would you actually like to HAVE THE BODY of a woman in real life, not just wear the clothing and dream about it sometimes? Do you hate having male genitalia in reality, when you see yourself in the mirror, before going to get in the shower, but can take it because you still find it more convenient, socially, at the moment? When you see a pretty and very feminine woman, do you think more of BEING like her, rather than having her as your sexual partner?
Just some food for thought here. Everybody is different. But those dreams and behaviors of yours, must have some meaning, and probably you are just minimizing its importance for now, because just considering going through a transition would mess up your whole life as it is, and I don't blame you for not taking such a huge risk. Also, at your age, testosterone may mess you up pretty bad, by causing conflicting ideas and feelings in your brain.
I don't mean to confuse you any further by all this rhetoric. Yet as many stated before, if you can find some counseling in the LGBT community or the psychiatric field, specifically somebody specialized in gender identity issues, it would be best for you. Probably on YouTube you could find some Gender Identity confusion channels that could open your eyes a bit more, by addressing some of your specific concerns.
I wish you lots of luck finding out who you really are!
Cheers
Bibi B.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Devlyn on July 19, 2015, 05:39:56 PM
Post by: Devlyn on July 19, 2015, 05:39:56 PM
Crossdressers are absolutely transgender. Any assertions otherwise are false, and would violate the policies and spirit of this site.
Hugs, Devlyn
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: bibilinda on July 19, 2015, 05:50:30 PM
Post by: bibilinda on July 19, 2015, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on July 19, 2015, 05:39:56 PM
Crossdressers are absolutely transgender. Any assertions otherwise are false, and would violate the policies and spirit of this site.
Hugs, Devlyn
That's exactly true. In fact for many of us, being a crossdresser is a stage before realizing one is actually a transsexual. So in my case I went from transgender-crossdresser to transgender-transsexual. Not all of us do it but IMHO there is always the potential to get there, when one is a crossdresser in the first place.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: suzifrommd on July 19, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on July 19, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: ButterflyVickster on July 19, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
I'm going to embolden some key words that you said, these are why I dont think you are transgender, ill list them below too.
You say
"I'm an 18 year old male"
"I would enjoy pretending to be female"
"I don't hate being male."
I know you mean well, BV, but I need to point out that I could say all these things when I first came to this site (except the 18-year-old part), but I am as trans as they come, and am thrilled with my transition.
Just because someone doesn't fit the traditional narrative (always knew they were female, feels like a woman in man's body, extreme dysphoria, etc.) doesn't mean they are not trans, right?
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Devlyn on July 19, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
Post by: Devlyn on July 19, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: bibilinda on July 19, 2015, 05:50:30 PMQuote from: Devlyn Marie on July 19, 2015, 05:39:56 PM
Crossdressers are absolutely transgender. Any assertions otherwise are false, and would violate the policies and spirit of this site.
Hugs, Devlyn
That's exactly true. In fact for many of us, being a crossdresser is a stage before realizing one is actually a transsexual. So in my case I went from transgender-crossdresser to transgender-transsexual. Not all of us do it but IMHO there is always the potential to get there, when one is a crossdresser in the first place.
Absolutey, I've settled in at crossdresser/non-binary, but if my train decides to head to Transsexualville, I'm certainly going for the ride! ;D
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on July 19, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Just because someone doesn't fit the traditional narrative (always knew they were female, feels like a woman in man's body, extreme dysphoria, etc.) doesn't mean they are not trans, right?
This I agree with completelly.
I did even as I realised the possibly exclusianery wording or my post state.
Just because I didnt think they were trans. It doesnt mean the're not. (I have edited my prior post in hopes to make this stand out more)
Its just, I have to be open to the possibilty that, not everybody who comes here will be trans, and further more that, having a lot of things in their background close to me doesnt mean they are either.
I pointed out, those phrases In an attempt to help a person I thought was having trouble validating the're masculinity to themselves due to possesing a variety of seemingly none conforming behaviours.
I realise my mistake,
I posted an opinion, not advise.
But I was still trying to help sombody, under the posibility they might not be trans.
I just didnt want to take it for granted that just because they are curently questioning and on susans, thet they are somthing they might not be.
Sorry for any upset, I have caused anyone.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 06:44:19 PM
Post by: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 06:44:19 PM
I admit that I'm more confused than when I came here :laugh:.
None of this is simple, is it?
I spent a ton of thought on my initial post. I only mentioned I was male with the simple purpose of making my current sex apparent. I originally hadn't included a name when I made the post, but I added "David" (which isn't my real name) just to give people something to refer to me by. I considered using a female name instead, but I figured that would only complicate things.
I wasn't lying when I said I don't hate being male, but I can't say I've ever enjoyed being one either. I was born male and being male is all I know. However, I constantly wish that I would wake up as a girl one day. Whenever my mom tells me that the doctor said I was supposed to have been born a girl, I find myself wishing that had actually been the case.
But would I actually be happy if that happened? I don't know. I like to think I would.
Ultimately, my identity is something I'll have to put a lot more thought into. You guys have convinced me that I need to talk to a therapist or receive some kind of counselling. At the very least I know I'll talk to my mom about it.
Thanks for all of your help! Cheers.
None of this is simple, is it?
I spent a ton of thought on my initial post. I only mentioned I was male with the simple purpose of making my current sex apparent. I originally hadn't included a name when I made the post, but I added "David" (which isn't my real name) just to give people something to refer to me by. I considered using a female name instead, but I figured that would only complicate things.
I wasn't lying when I said I don't hate being male, but I can't say I've ever enjoyed being one either. I was born male and being male is all I know. However, I constantly wish that I would wake up as a girl one day. Whenever my mom tells me that the doctor said I was supposed to have been born a girl, I find myself wishing that had actually been the case.
But would I actually be happy if that happened? I don't know. I like to think I would.
Ultimately, my identity is something I'll have to put a lot more thought into. You guys have convinced me that I need to talk to a therapist or receive some kind of counselling. At the very least I know I'll talk to my mom about it.
Thanks for all of your help! Cheers.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Post by: HoneyStrums on July 19, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Sorry if I helped add to your confusion. which I think I did.
I suppos after seeing your story was soo similar to mine, I made the mistake of offering you what I thought you wanted to hear instead, of what you needed to hear.
I regrett that. I hoped so much that I wasnt trans, that if i think for a moment its likely sombody isnt, that hope they arnt takes over, And Ill do anything I can to point out they might not be. when the truth is, might not be, still means might be.
As easey as I have it, I still wouldnt wish it on anybody.
I suppos after seeing your story was soo similar to mine, I made the mistake of offering you what I thought you wanted to hear instead, of what you needed to hear.
I regrett that. I hoped so much that I wasnt trans, that if i think for a moment its likely sombody isnt, that hope they arnt takes over, And Ill do anything I can to point out they might not be. when the truth is, might not be, still means might be.
As easey as I have it, I still wouldnt wish it on anybody.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
Post by: Laura_7 on July 19, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: ButterflyVickster on July 19, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Sorry if I helped add to your confusion. which I think I did.
I suppos after seeing your story was soo similar to mine, I made the mistake of offering you what I thought you wanted to hear instead, of what you needed to hear.
I regrett that. I hoped so much that I wasnt trans, that if i think for a moment its likely sombody isnt, that hope they arnt takes over, And Ill do anything I can to point out they might not be. when the truth is, might not be, still means might be.
As easey as I have it, I still wouldnt wish it on anybody.
Well at least you provided a point of reference.. an opinion... from where out its possible to have further thoughts and compare if it fits or not...
hugs
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Hannah Samira on July 20, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
Post by: Hannah Samira on July 20, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
Quote from: Sinessi on July 19, 2015, 06:44:19 PM
I admit that I'm more confused than when I came here :laugh:.
None of this is simple, is it?
I spent a ton of thought on my initial post. I only mentioned I was male with the simple purpose of making my current sex apparent. I originally hadn't included a name when I made the post, but I added "David" (which isn't my real name) just to give people something to refer to me by. I considered using a female name instead, but I figured that would only complicate things.
I wasn't lying when I said I don't hate being male, but I can't say I've ever enjoyed being one either. I was born male and being male is all I know. However, I constantly wish that I would wake up as a girl one day. Whenever my mom tells me that the doctor said I was supposed to have been born a girl, I find myself wishing that had actually been the case.
But would I actually be happy if that happened? I don't know. I like to think I would.
Ultimately, my identity is something I'll have to put a lot more thought into. You guys have convinced me that I need to talk to a therapist or receive some kind of counselling. At the very least I know I'll talk to my mom about it.
Thanks for all of your help! Cheers.
Hiya!! First of all welcome to Susan's!!
Now, both this and your initial post I can heavily relate to. I have never had any issues with being male - it definitely has it's perks and is sometimes quite nice!! The issue is that I wish I was a woman, not because I'm unhappy as a male - I'd be happy as either male or female - but because I don't know if I'd be even happier as a female!!
Basically, I definitely recommend you see a therapist (as I will do after the summer) because they should help you come to the realisation of who you are and who you want to be!! As I'm still pre-everything (and still questioning) though, there's not really much more advice I can give!!
Anyway, I recommend browsing the forum and talking to others about your feelings; I found the more I talked to others on here, the better I could put my feelings across!! Also feel free to PM me when you get enough posts!!
P.S: For what it's worth, I don't think this makes you a pervert at all!! ;)
:) xxx
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: steyraug96 on July 21, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
Post by: steyraug96 on July 21, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: Sinessi on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
(Edited to a much shorter form)
I'm an 18 year old male who is pretty confused and has a couple of questions.
Since a very young age I have some pretty weird interests. I remember loving to wear my grandma's pantyhose, loving it when girls would try to "dress me up" as part of games, and to this day I've been a massive fan of fantasy stories about male-to-female transformations. Whenever I play a video game I choose a female character, and I would enjoy pretending to be female as well. I would sometimes catch myself in feminine postures and there was even a point where I would watch the ways guys walked and try to replicate their movements (possible social anxiety).
I've noticed that I'm a girl in many of my dreams (maybe this is normal), and whenever I fantasize about something I usually take a female form.
That being said, I don't hate being male. I'm not exactly a "man's man" but I'm not what you'd call feminine. I'm attracted to girls after all.
So what does this mean exactly? Am I a pervert? Do I have some kind of trans fetish or something?
Or am I transgender? I read some similar posts on this site but I still don't know.
Many thanks, David.
Well, David, I'm probably an outlier here, but I'd <censored> well HOPE so! World needs more "perverts"... too many puritans. ;-) (And I'm of a conservative bent, mind... Talk about irony!)
But also, as others noted, "pervert" is a pretty strong term - except, of course, in the legal sense, where it seems to mean, "anyone doing something I don't want them to."
It's not the days of flashers, and women getting the vapors from a rude comment... (Let's NOT go further... We'll get WAY OT.)
So, let's rephrase the question:
You like to feel some feminine things. You don't mind playing dress-up, basically. We could examine if it's the attention, the femininity, or the girls attention to you, all different things.
I notice, though, that you sound similar to a large portion of my life, which is sort of, "DILLIGAF?" (Do In Look Like I Give A ...?)
I just sort of bounced through it, because I knew my parents, I knew my peers, and I knew what would happen if I was noticed. No joke, just being the "wimp" in school cost me physically. Leave it at that.
I think you might want to talk to a counselor before making a decision. I never had issues with being "me", but always wanted Me to be female. I don't hate my male parts, they're just sort of... Irrelevant. Great to have with the right woman. But with a woman who isn't right? Might as well have a cuisinart. :-P
I can't help with that part; your ideal partner is on you, and you might want to think in large long-term plans to help with that. Lesbian relationship? FemDom or Female-Led? Or any of a bunch of truly non-vanilla options, including polyamory, polygamy, cuckold, etc.
And a key question in all is: Do you want your own, genetic children? If so: that's something to plan for, ASAP. If not, no worries, explore for a while. If near a city, take a look at the club and drag scene, make connections, talk to people.
Maybe take up crossdressing on weekends or such.
Buy a few toys to experiment, maybe (but be careful on that path.)
Google the area for other "alternative" groups, maybe go to a Munch (BDSM non-scene lunch, sort of a networking thing.)
But I think if you find you're dreaming of yourself as a woman, all the way - especially the submissive partner - then a counselor is best place to start, to get more views and thoughts. And read every board you can for advice. ;-)
Set the destination and the steps of the journey are easy. IF you'll take those steps. And I speak from bad experience. ;-)
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 21, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 21, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
I can't tell you if you are or not. I do know that just over a year ago I was confused myself. I knew I liked women and I didn't think that made sense. I've learned this is not the case since then. Sexual orientation and gender identity aren't connected. Don't let that stop you. The real question you need to ask is are you uncomfortable with being in your body as the sex you were born into? I was never uncomfortable until puberty and it only got worse over the years. I had plenty of other indications I was trans before that.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: highlight on August 07, 2015, 12:31:21 AM
Post by: highlight on August 07, 2015, 12:31:21 AM
You don't have to have dysphoria in order to be trans, but if you CAN live happily as a male then this is probably best.
Mod edit: no discussion of autogynophilia thanks
Mod edit: no discussion of autogynophilia thanks
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Patty_M on August 07, 2015, 01:58:30 AM
Post by: Patty_M on August 07, 2015, 01:58:30 AM
First off, you are not a "pervert". That is a nasty word but you already know that.
Somewhere you said that you wouldn't know where to find a gender therapist. There is a list of qualified people across the country at DrBecky.com/therapists.HTML There are some excellent people on that list in every major city. Take a look. You might find the help you need on that list.
You are the only one who knows where you fit on the transgender spectrum. There are a wide range of people under that umbrella. The therapist will help you come to an understanding of just what it is that is appropriate for you.
Also, look around and see if there is a support group. That was my first step. It was at one of their meetings that I first met others and learned of links to helpful resources, including a therapist and an electrologist.
Whatever you do, I hope that it goes well for you.
Somewhere you said that you wouldn't know where to find a gender therapist. There is a list of qualified people across the country at DrBecky.com/therapists.HTML There are some excellent people on that list in every major city. Take a look. You might find the help you need on that list.
You are the only one who knows where you fit on the transgender spectrum. There are a wide range of people under that umbrella. The therapist will help you come to an understanding of just what it is that is appropriate for you.
Also, look around and see if there is a support group. That was my first step. It was at one of their meetings that I first met others and learned of links to helpful resources, including a therapist and an electrologist.
Whatever you do, I hope that it goes well for you.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Evelyn Ivy StaMaria on August 11, 2015, 07:25:08 AM
Post by: Evelyn Ivy StaMaria on August 11, 2015, 07:25:08 AM
I know what you mean. I can relate mostly to the female character in games tho. But other than that I have a friend that was in a similar situation too. But he turned out to be a crossdresser. Like what most of the people here have said you should or could get consultation from a professional. They would be able to help make somet stuff much more clear. Always keep an open mind about things tho. That's one of the important keys in my life.
Title: Re: Am I a pervert?
Post by: Laura_7 on August 11, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Post by: Laura_7 on August 11, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Quote from: Patty_M on August 07, 2015, 01:58:30 AM
First off, you are not a "pervert". That is a nasty word but you already know that.
Somewhere you said that you wouldn't know where to find a gender therapist. There is a list of qualified people across the country at DrBecky.com/therapists.HTML There are some excellent people on that list in every major city. Take a look. You might find the help you need on that list.
There are more here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162888.msg1400316.html#msg1400316
and here:
https://www.susans.org/links/Healthcare/Therapists_&_Counselors/
hugs