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Title: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
I had a very bad life before in prostitution before, putting that aside I was always a nympho and had an insatiable desire to sleep with men. I recently came to know there was a demon stuck on me causing these troubles. Ever since I got exorcised by a priest last Sunday I feel liberated.

I was being tormented day and night. I couldn't sleep well, making nightmares, I could even see it attacking me at night. And it's worse than a ghost. Demons are fallen angels are have tremendous powers. There was always fights between me and my husband. And an extreme back pain always and also behind my neck. The priest said demons tend to rest on those zones to cause trouble.

The priest made me understand demons are attracted to transsexuals, homosexuals, aborted women etc...I swear if I did not repent or surrender to God, they would have dragged by soul to hell forever, last week they were so close to kill me seriously.

To all those sceptics out there, these things are real. I just got baptized as christian and I finally feel liberated. Thanks the Holy Spirit, Jesus, Virgin Mary, Archangel Michael & God.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Christine1 on October 29, 2017, 04:21:47 PM
Everyone has Demons! So all I can say is good luck to You.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Deborah on October 29, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
I used to pray all the time and every Sunday, without fail, I was delivered of those demons.  Then by Monday or Tuesday, without fail, they came back.  Finally after about 55 years (I'm a slow learner) I gave up.

I hope you have better luck with it than I did.


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Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Allison S on October 29, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
You know there's no good or bad, right or wrong? We decide our morals and ethics (well there is law too, I think? In the US lol). If there is a God, I think my conscious has accepted what will happen.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: DawnOday on October 29, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
Congratulations on finding your strength. I find that my higher powers are my kids. I believe in them. I've ridden the Christian roller coaster since  shortly after birth as my Grandparents were ordained Seventh Day Adventist ministers.  I stopped attending when the Easter service was not about the resurrection of Christ buy what one should wear to church.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dani on October 29, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: DawnOday on October 29, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
I stopped attending when the Easter service was not about the resurrection of Christ buy what one should wear to church.

That makes two of us. I go to church to hear the word of God in all the ways God talks to us and nothing else.

As for demons, Didn't Christ tell Satan to "get behind me". Demons are powerless if you do not listen to them.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: flytrap on October 29, 2017, 08:36:53 PM
I am so happy for you, Evolving Beauty!  Thank you for sharing this amazing experience.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Lady Sarah on October 29, 2017, 09:04:24 PM
Using Chrome, I was going to post something I thought was important to the discussion. When it crashed, I took it as a sign to not share what I was going to.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: Deborah on October 29, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
I used to pray all the time and every Sunday, without fail, I was delivered of those demons.  Then by Monday or Tuesday, without fail, they came back.  Finally after about 55 years (I'm a slow learner) I gave up.

I hope you have better luck with it than I did.


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Darling, they live in a timeless dimension so to them your soul is eternal and will do all to drag you with them. YOU NEED TO FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN SOUL!!! Or they're gonna drag you in hell once you die. I was atheist and never knew the gravity of the situation till it reached to this level.

It might be you're doing something that's attracting them. You need to check your lifestyle. Even masturbation or watching porn attracts them and they feed on that energy. We are born genetically male, so if we're having intercourse with another man it attracts them in a mysterious way to what the priest told me.

In fact it will try all not to let you know it exist so that it keeps on feeding on your energy but the day you get to realize it exists as you 'caught them' they start tormenting you. But the worst thing is many don't even realize this and it's a grave situation cos that place called hell really exist. One night, it inflicted me the worst pain ever. A pain 1000 times worst than any physical pain I ever endured. They even have power to make you fall sick. Can you imagine yourself being in a place like hell when you die, in a hot ugly fuming stinking place that too with thousands of demons there mixed with these millions damned souls who did pure evil to mankind when they were alive. Don't think these callous criminals on Earth will be spared. And the worst is to think there's nothing after death. It's a TRAP. It's what they want you to believe.

Those people going crazy all around the world just shooting people and crowds for no reason are a sure sign of diabolical vexation. Some people are not possessed 100% but they are influenced a lot by demons, specially those taking drugs are easier preys to demons. We are in the end of times, take care of your souls before it's too late.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: MaryT on October 30, 2017, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
The priest made me understand demons are attracted to transsexuals, homosexuals, aborted women etc...I swear if I did not repent or surrender to God, they would have dragged by soul to hell forever, last week they were so close to kill me seriously.

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 11:01:42 PM
We are born genetically male, so if we're having intercourse with another man it attracts them in a mysterious way to what the priest told me.

I am not going to criticise.  I respect your beliefs and opinions.  I just want to make sure I understand what you mean.  Did the priest try to persuade you to stop being transsexual?  Are you saying that we will all go to Hell unless we stop being trans?

Whatever you mean, you have obviously had some sort of traumatic experiences.  I just wonder whether you have guilt feelings about the life you have led and about being transsexual, and they overflowed to become what you now believe.  Did you try consulting your GP before consulting a priest?

Whatever happens, I hope that you find peace and happiness.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Roll on October 30, 2017, 11:51:50 AM
I respect your belief and what you believe happened, but it is important to remember something... Even within the Catholic Church's circles of extreme devotion, exorcism has fallen out of favor for a reason. There are countless cases where people experience a temporary placebo effect from exorcism as a cathartic experience. But it doesn't last, not any more than squeezing a stress ball or punching a pillow solves anger issues for good. People who are "exorcised" then find themselves out in the world thinking they are cured, not taking their medicines for severe psychological disorders or addressing root problems for their issues. It is a recipe for disaster. Now maybe you will find long lasting results, but the odds are not in your favor on this. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Hope it lasts, but be ready for if it doesn't, because that rebound can be deadly if you aren't prepared.

For the record, I do believe in God (I'm a Deist), and I do believe that life is eternal in some form (though do not hazard to guess that form). I also believe in inhuman evil (though again, I do not hazard to guess the form, and generally believe our human perspective is far too limited to grasp the true nature of either what we would call God or demons).
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: josie76 on October 30, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
I respect your belief in otherworldly influence.

What I will say is the God that is the creation of the universe does not love any one living being more than another. Being born transgender does not make you less than a cis born person.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: TinaVane on October 30, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Cute


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Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: MaryT on October 31, 2017, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
The priest made me understand demons are attracted to transsexuals, homosexuals, aborted women etc...I swear if I did not repent or surrender to God, they would have dragged by soul to hell forever, last week they were so close to kill me seriously.

I apologise if it seems as though I am trivialising real distress but I have to ask.

Was this a Halloween prank?

If so, it was a good one.

(Darn, I HAD to post the 13th reply, didn't I?)
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: big kim on October 31, 2017, 06:56:35 PM
Be very careful round your exorcist friends. Only you know if theyre genuine. I'd keep well away6
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dianne H on October 31, 2017, 09:46:02 PM
I have seen people delivered from evil spirits in churches, prayer lines, just sitting week after week in anointed services and while discussing the word of God in homes. It is the word of God which casts them out whether by preacher, priest, brethren or exorcist.

Services and conversations and speaking that which is anointed of the Holy Ghost does it. Evil spirits hate hearing about the Lord and the blood of the cross. Most of the time they will get the person to jump up and run out. When they stay the spirit either be cast out, or many times will leave on it's own. Many forms work.

The best thing to do is find a church or assembly (home or whatever) where the services are truly anointed of God. Even continual prayer even when unanswered works.

I have seen straight, gay, trans and cis people delivered. These spirits do exist and when we open the door to them they get stronger than most realize. I watched a small old lady throw a man over three pews.

I have also seen the people most unsuspected either tormented by an evil spirit or possessed by one. There is a difference in being tormented and possessed.

A person can be merely tormented and it makes their life hell. When a person gets possessed it is pretty sad. Like the small old lady, they can sit right through an anointed service and nothing will phase them. Only the Spirit of God bringing the rightly divided word of truth forth will drive them out. Sadly, many times they get the person to where they may not even care to be delivered.

I have seen straight, gay, trans and cis people in both cases. It is not always a case of sex or gender issues. There are those listed in the Bible tormented and possessed who weren't gay, trans or such.

An open door can be sexual or natural sin or even making a god out of anything before Christ. I have seen preacher's wives jump up covering their ears and run out of an anointed service.  The occult, devil worship, witchcraft, drugs and other mind altering substances aren't the only things Satan uses.

Satan knows the word of God better than any preacher and knows just what opens a door for him. He knows just how to tempt man.

The main thing is to find a service truly anointed of the Holy Ghost. If there are none near, seek the baptism of the Holy Ghost and find some sort of fellowship which is anointed of the God.

Above all, never give up. Mary Magdalene was delivered of seven devils and God is no respecter of persons. If you continue to try to please God, he will honor it.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Roll on October 31, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
I feel like there is a bit of a glossing over of a key distinction that should be cleared up in both the OP and Dianne's post... Are either of you saying that being transgender is due to a demon or attracts a demon directly, or simply that the issues that go along with being transgender (fear, depression, etc.) attract demons?

If the latter, I am sympathetic to the viewpoint, even if I don't believe demonic possession is likely. If the former, I feel that does a disservice to all of us, as I believe the opposite in that coming to accept myself as transgender had elements of the divine not the demonic, in overcoming my figurative (I'll even say perhaps literal) demons.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 02:10:35 AM
I cannot speak for others but I am not saying trans people are devils or demon possessed. I am offering insight into spiritual things in which I and others have had evil spirits torment us and how I and others found ways to fight them. There is nothing harmful with offering honest help.

What I offered comes from experience in being trans. It is things I learned which work. That should hinder nobody. We can deny anything true but it still is.

we can say we'll never die and still die. We can say there are no evil spirits, but they exist regardless. Kindness is to be honest and share to help but to deny that is no help whatsoever.

Evil spirits exist and effect all, straight, gay, trans, saved and not saved. I'm sorry if you can't handle that.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Roll on November 01, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
Quote from: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 02:10:35 AM
I'm sorry if you can't handle that.

I'm going to be honest, that came across as pretty condescending. :-X Nothing I said even remotely played to whether or not I can or can't handle an issue, and I was just looking for a clarification on the trans specific stance.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Julia1996 on November 01, 2017, 11:26:47 AM
I would be more worried about a priest encouraging someone to believe in demons and excercism than some supposed demon attacking you.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Roll,
I am sorry if I offended you but some come to the Christianity page and mock it.
These issues are serious; both being trans and demons.
One reason some may not get deliverance is because they don't take it serious enough.
When you have a spirit tell you that you would be better off to end it all, the last thing one needs, is to see those who take it lightly or mock it, and mock the knowledge of that which could deliver from such.
I felt my comment made it clear demons attack and / or posses those who are straight and cis as well.
Some may not believe in them and that is their right. If a person cannot believe in that which is openly showed in scripture it may be one reason prayers were never answered. The Lord isn't going to answer those who mock him saying his word is a lie or joke.
The Christianity page is to give hope and comfort for Christians and not a page for those who don't believe to mock it or any part of it. After all, we aren't supposed to post about Christianity on other pages here.
That is why I was offended about my reply.
Sorry if I offended you.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
I would like to add one thing.
Part of helping others is through giving an understanding of many issues. Sometimes those issues are very sensitive.
Denying the existence of something isn't helping. Too many preachers do that now and lead people to hell and create Christians who judge others and think they have the right to condemn them.
I've been told I was lost, evil, deceived and going to hell by others. It wasn't nice and the so called Christians who did so will have to answer for that.
The very ones who said such have no idea what a transgender person goes through and would be better off saying nothing.
But, that doesn't mean that I should ignore what scripture says; especially when it worked for me.
If we should not post about Christian issues or answers in other areas of this site, nobody should come here mocking that which can help us.
If I worded something a little harsh I am sorry. If it wasn't clear enough I am sorry for the confusion.
But, people here need help; not mocking or ridicule, either of them or what they believe.
Some say the Lord never answered their prayers. Sometimes he doesn't as our faith is tried, to see if we will trust him more than any other person.
Sometimes it's because the person may not even believe every word of God which Jesus said we must live by. He isn't going to answer the prayers of those who knowingly and openly mock him. He's no fool.
Once again, if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I take being trans and the scriptures which helped me very seriously, for both myself and others.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Roll on November 01, 2017, 12:56:55 PM
I know you said that demons attack and possess those who are straight or cis as well, but I don't think that translates into a definitive statement on what drives that attack. I believe there is a big difference between between the sentiments: "demons attack cis or trans pedophiles because they are pedophiles regardless of being cis or trans" and "demons attack trans people because they are trans". Or in more simple terms, clarifying whether or not the opinion was being expressed that straight and cis people certainly commit sins, but being gay or trans is itself a sin. All I sought was a quick clarification (more so from the OP than you to be honest, as her post was quite a bit more vague on the topic).

For my part, I don't come to this sub forum to mock at all. I consider myself a non denominational Deist for the sake of labeling, but I also believe in the core teaching of Christ regardless, often resulting in me simply resorting to saying "I'm a Christian Deist, don't think too much about it". (Essentially, I don't like the trappings of dogma and prefer my relationship with God to be unhampered by the preconceived notions of those who came before me, because, quite honestly, I think a lot of them were really, really far off base. I like the solitary monk mediating on the nature of God approach.)

I say I don't believe demonic possession is likely not as a bash against your belief or Christianity in the slightest, but simply as a preface explaining my own beliefs (and one that is certainly in line with most major denominations, so really shouldn't be a controversial statement). I should also say I come at this not from the viewpoint of disbelief in evil, but simply that I believe much of our conception of evil is a misled anthropomorphic view of something that I do not believe we can truly understand given our limited human perspective. I certainly believe in evil, only that it is not something we can or should simplify in such a manner lest we be lulled into false complacency against it and against our earthly woes alike (ie: the schizophrenic who did not have a demon in him by any reasonable standard who stops taking his medication after an exorcism).

(If anything, my view of the probable nature of evil could be said to be at times even a bit more extreme than demonic possession and evil spirits. I have a few somewhat out there theories, that I don't particularly dwell on or anything but have at least crossed my mind more than once. I have too much free time. ;D)
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: MaryT on November 01, 2017, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
If we should not post about Christian issues or answers in other areas of this site, nobody should come here mocking that which can help us.
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Once again, if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I take being trans and the scriptures which helped me very seriously, for both myself and others.

I certainly am not mocking anyone, although the timing of the original post forced me to question whether there was a connection to Halloween.  The original post and Evolving Beauty's subsequent post both imply that demons are attracted to people BECAUSE they are transsexual or homosexual:

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 29, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
The priest made me understand demons are attracted to transsexuals, homosexuals, aborted women etc...

I am transgender and regard myself as Christian but I think that transsexuals, Christian or not, are entitled to be offended, even if it is posted on the Transgender Christian forum.

I do not challenge Evolving Beauty's right to post what she did.  Although I do not agree with her assessment of the facts, I accept that trans and gay people, especially Christians, have to deal with Biblical texts, especially St Paul's, when they seem to refer to us.

My heart goes out to her, though, believing what she does about the cause of her troubles, and being encouraged in that belief by a priest.  I do not know to what denomination the priest belongs.  I understand that Roman Catholic and Episcopal priests do not take exorcisms lightly, and the approval of a bishop is required, and that is usually forthcoming only if a qualified psychiatrist has failed to help.  Evolving Beauty does not mention those procedures taking place.

Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Dianne H on November 01, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
Roll,
As I said, I am sorry if I came off appearing too offended. I do get offended but I also try to control that in case someone like you or Mary T means no offense.

Once again, I am sorry for any anger or confusion.

Mary T,

I can't answer for Evolving Beauty as she has her own thoughts.

So many churches teach so many contradicting things many no longer know what to believe. One church says one thing and another church says another.

Areas such as the baptism of the Holy Ghost, one Lord, one faith, one baptism and one God and Father of all have been removed, miss taught and in some cases not allowed to be mentioned behind pulpits. The result is a people who hear a one sided belief which is not the truth.

That has caused the mere mention of demons to frighten or offend many. I can see that and that is why I try to post in a manner in which I make it clear (hopefully) that an open door can come through many forms and not all people can be lumped together.

While I have no statistics, I would venture 99% of the ministers cannot tell me by the scriptures exactly what is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death.

That may appear trivial but it allows for unrighteous judgment and lumping all people together of a given type, problem, denomination, religion, faith or whatever.

To show you and others what I mean I'll use a common teaching in the Christian church and show what is wrong which shows why I get offended when people and ministers misuse the word of God. This is also why I tend to maybe get aggravated myself and speak too harshly, of which I apologize.

Here's the example:

I will try to keep this clean.

How long have lesbians been miss labeled as homosexual?

In truth lesbianism is nothing more than glorified masturbation.

There is no seed of copulation to have sex such as for procreation.

They merely use a toy or person for such activities.

Therefore, lesbianism can be using the part of the female anatomy wrongly as in Romans, but so do straight women who control their husband with threats of no sex unless he does as she wishes.

How long have lesbians such as one of my friends been run out of churches and run out of town because they said she was a homosexual when she wasn't?

The loss of the Holy Ghost and the spiritual ignorance of the preachers and churches has caused more harm than good.

That is why I do mention evil spirits and try to use the understanding of them to help others. Too many have been too hurt for too long by Christians and the church through pride, hate, false doctrine and passed down err.

I hope this explains why I get a little hurt some times and may appear to come off too strong.

Again; I am sorry unto all who may have been offended. I just take helping fellow transgender and transsexual people seriously.
Title: Re: A demon was tormenting me, it's real
Post by: Cindy on November 19, 2017, 03:42:39 PM
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I have removed a number of posts.

I am not going to have the OP's experience or belief trivialised or mocked. Her belief is as equally valid as yours.

If you wish to start your own thread to discuss your concept of spirituality do so.

Cindy
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