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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2011, 09:51:51 AM

Title: I want to natter
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2011, 09:51:51 AM
About something androgyne-esque with my androgyne chums...what should we talk about?
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
The caffeine is just starting to activate the world. I think I'll get another cup of toxic swill. I remembered to take my morning meds already today.

Ativan
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2011, 11:16:44 AM
and here I am thinking about dinner - timezones are wonderful things.

Of course,  GMT is the world's only proper time - Greenwich being the centre of time and space.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
I have always wanted to be at the Int Dateline and step back and forth across it.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
as long as we don't become "nattering nabobs of negativism" (Spoken by Spiro Agnew, but written by William Safire), who also penned: "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history".


Int Dateline and step back and forth across it

OK there Jesus.  You realize that thing doesn't really run on any land, right?
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2011, 11:37:10 AM
But you only know your at it when you get the shiny line on the floor at the observatory.

Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: tekla on August 14, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
OK there Jesus.  You realize that thing doesn't really run on any land, right?
I figure that with gps as good as it can be, one could position themselves with a line drawn across. But, floating back and forth doesn't sound like it would be out of the question.

Did you know the 4 corners monument is in the wrong place?
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 11:45:23 AM
The old 4 Corners was, but the new one is supposedly correct.  Did you know that if you and three buddies went to that place (as we did) and smoked a joint while passing it to each other and walking around it's possible for the 4 of you to run up 32 felony counts on one joint?
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
I remember now something about that. I think it was the reason it was fixed, because it was so embarrassing to the DNR.

Felonies? just for a joint? Really? I guess I just took it for granted that unless you had mass quantities, misdemeanor or ignored. Are there still felony states? (my brain just fell off the edge into the 60's abyss.)
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Ann Onymous on August 14, 2011, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: @ivan on August 14, 2011, 11:58:47 AM

Felonies? just for a joint? Really? I guess I just took it for granted that unless you had mass quantities, misdemeanor or ignored. Are there still felony states? (my brain just fell off the edge into the 60's abyss.)

Possession with intent to distribute can be a fun one, even if the individual weight would only be misdemeanor possession charges...then you can also get into the prospect of possession in a drug-free zone if the park monument was handled in the same way as other areas oft-considered for DFZ provisions of Code...

And yeah, we do still have people in Texas working on life sentences for little more than stems and seeds before the law changed in the mid-70's. 
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
Well it's not a park monument, its' on Navajo land I think.  And, for some odd reason, the Navajo (like Honey Badger) don't give much of a ->-bleeped-<- about federal law.  And back in the 80s when I was there it was still a felony in all four states, plus since you were passing it to another state, that's a federal violation for each pass. 
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
Antarctica!

Perfect.  I'm sure we could raise enough money here to send you to Antarctica (only half of which is land, perhaps more now that the ice shelfs are breaking off).  Getting home however, you're on your own.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 12:19:15 PM
Not a matter, I'm thinking that getting there wouldn't be very difficult, either. It's pretty much turning into a tourist trap like 4 corners is, anyways.

I wonder if pot is legal there.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: JungianZoe on August 14, 2011, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: @ivan on August 14, 2011, 12:19:15 PM
It's pretty much turning into a tourist trap like 4 corners is, anyways.

Hey, I like putting my big toe in four states at once! ;D  Now if only the monument was centered correctly...
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Eva Marie on August 14, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: @ivan on August 14, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
I have always wanted to be at the Int Dateline and step back and forth across it.

What if you straddled it? You could be in both today AND tomorrow at the same time! Of course, with a joint you could do much the same LOL.....
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
Yeah, once the built the 4 Seasons and Intercontinental Hotels (and the Motel 6) there at McMurdo it's just a tourist deal anymore.  And it is, I think they are getting like 35-40,000 tourists a year now.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 14, 2011, 12:28:43 PM
I should book ahead then?
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 14, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
Apparently so, I was surprised they got more than 10K myself.

http://www.destination360.com/antarctica/vacations (http://www.destination360.com/antarctica/vacations)
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: espo on August 14, 2011, 01:22:07 PM
 Saw a documentary on Anita O'Day the other night. Very cool !!!
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Juliet on August 14, 2011, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: espo on August 14, 2011, 01:22:07 PM
Saw a documentary on Anita O'Day the other night. Very cool !!!

Well I saw a documentary on Anita O'Night the other DAY.  Even cooler.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: espo on August 14, 2011, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: Juliet on August 14, 2011, 02:29:39 PM
Well I saw a documentary on Anita O'Night the other DAY.  Even cooler.

Is it just me or do other people see how totally insanely funny that is.
Damn, thats really funny.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 15, 2011, 08:13:27 AM
Meh, I prefer Otis Day and the Knights.

Animal House - Otis Day & The Knights - Shout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An5WJC8eJjI#)
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 15, 2011, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: tekla on August 14, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
as long as we don't become "nattering nabobs of negativism" (Spoken by Spiro Agnew, but written by William Safire), who also penned: "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history".


Int Dateline and step back and forth across it

OK there Jesus.  You realize that thing doesn't really run on any land, right?

Um... just stand on a boat above it and walk around on deck? Or paddle around like in the famous "Loaves, Fishes, and Canoe" incident from the gospels.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: foosnark on August 15, 2011, 08:47:46 AM
For bonus points, this IDL visit needs to happen on Feb 29 during a leap year.  Or at the very least, new year's eve/new year's day.

And you can't just step over it, you have to do the Time Warp over it.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 15, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
My favorite gospel incident is where the assembled crowd Jews, Roman soldiers and gentiles alike, staring in wonderment at the apperation that has appeared in front of them, Jesus strolls out from the house and addresses them thusly:

Really, people, I've had it with you. You all want to come home with me?  Your kidding right?  I've seen how you act in your own homes.  I've seen how you treat where you live.  You're the LAST people I want at home with me.  I COULDN'T"T HAVE MADE IT ANY EASIER ON YOU!  All you had to do is just try - try mind you - not to be complete and utter total douche-bags to each other and you can't even do that.  I told you all you have to do to be happy is be happy with what you have.  Buttttttt NOOOOOOOOOOOO.  You know you could have followed me and we'd be eating and drinking the good wine, and all laying about with women's and such, that is, when we're not fishin', but all you could think about was changing money at the temple.  Yeesh.  You are obviously idiots and there is really nothing more I can do for you.  The deal is off.  Create your own salvation you miserable cretins.  Your problem is not that you're being punished by god, it's that you can't stop punishing yourself or each other.  I tried, but I have to admit I've failed, and since I'm god and I can see into the future I know damn well what you're planning on doing with me after I'm gone (and getting me gone kinda sucks too) and I don't like it.  Nope.  Not one little bit.  So I'm going to lift the god punishment deal, he doesn't care that much about you anymore either.  I'm giving you a worse fate.  I'm leaving you to yourselves.  I'm so outta here.  Peter, John and me, were going' riding.  Hasta la vista.

At which time he climbs onto a BMW F 800 GS and Peter is on the other one with John behind him and they ride off while Chris Issac's "Gone Riding" plays underneath.

That's my favorite part.


PS. Sailors have beat you to the big IDL celebration by a few hundred years.  To wit:
The Raging Main is a reference to Imperium Neptuni Regis, or King Neptune, "Ruler of the Raging Main" and his domain.

It is referred to in the infamous Crossing of the Line ceremony performed by persons crossing the equator by ship. This Crossing of the Line ceremony is celebrated when a ship crosses the equator in a north-south direction and has unknown origins. It is known that the Carthinaginians held sacrifices to the gods when they crossed the Strait of Gibraltar. The first modern recorded ceremony was in a french ship which in 1529 was bound to Sumatra and where a mass was held upon crossing of Equator.

The first account of such a ceremony on a Portuguese ship was in 1666 by two italian friars that boarded a ship in Lisbon destined to Congo and passing though Brazil. Their description is as follows:

"The Portuguese have an old tradition of having some entertainment when crossing the line, and they take that day off to ask God for a safe voyage. Those who have never made the crossing must pay to the others or give them something to eat and drink, to which even the friars are obliged to. Their rosaries and statues of saints made some money for the reading of masses for souls in the purgatory. If someone doesn't pay this tribute he is tied up by sailors dressed as officers and presented to a court presided by a sailor dressed in a cape. The judge hears him and condemns him to be dipped three times in the sea by tying him strongly in a cable."


Now those people knew how to party!
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: espo on August 15, 2011, 12:29:47 PM
Quote from: tekla on August 15, 2011, 08:13:27 AM
Meh, I prefer Otis Day and the Knights.

Animal House - Otis Day & The Knights - Shout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An5WJC8eJjI#)

Really ? Over Anita O'Day ?  You're kidding.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 15, 2011, 12:52:53 PM
Well I have partied in the room where that was filmed, at a bar that was built out of the stage they played on.  So it's got a special place in my heart.  And in jazz the vocals are perhaps my least favorite part, and I understand how she was really a singer's singer - I got that - it's just that I'm not much of a singer person to begin with.  Now sax, trumpet, drums, bass, pianio, and the lushious sound of Jimmy Smith or Jimmy McGriff at the Hammond B-3, yumm-o. 

Jimmy Smith Trio - Organ Grinder's Swing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdFMpXaCLJ8&feature=related#)

Eddie McFadden on guitar, he's rockin'!
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: espo on August 15, 2011, 01:36:11 PM
The organ was weird but I'm with you on the guitar. FYI, I know zero about jazz except some I like and some I don't and that goes for pretty much everything artistic.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 15, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: espo on August 15, 2011, 01:36:11 PM
The organ was weird...

I was distractedly clicking through topics here, landed on this and wondered for a moment what the original subject was. On this site, it could have been anything...
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 15, 2011, 02:12:23 PM
Hammond B-3.

Yeah, on my list of things I want. I grew up in a house that my mother played one, almost every night.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 15, 2011, 02:14:23 PM
Hammond organ with Leslie speakers - damn fine - but as heavy as a truck.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: ativan on August 15, 2011, 02:17:39 PM
Yeppers, thats the one, gotta have a leslie speaker, wouldn't be the same without
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 15, 2011, 02:23:18 PM
I helped 3 other people carry one up a flight of stairs once. I still bear the scars. But it's such a great sound! You can get halfway decent Hammond emulators these days, but they don't quite emulate that amazing Thump at the beginning of each note.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: foosnark on August 15, 2011, 04:02:33 PM
Fender Rhodes Suitcase for me.  Preferably the exact one I played in high school jazz band.  It was a little more growly than any I've heard on recordings, and I loved it.

Also an Ondes Martenot.  Because.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 15, 2011, 04:08:16 PM
Ondes Martenot régnent !
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 15, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
All the cool kids have Nords.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: Padma on August 16, 2011, 02:28:27 AM
That'd be my brother, then :).

Though he was about to spend £90 on a new mains board for it when I pointed out that it had an internal fuse, and that fuse was blown. Does this make me more of a man than he is, or just more of a geek? ::)
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 16, 2011, 07:20:55 AM
Geek.

We used to switch out the fuses on the back of the guitar amps for battle of the bands when I was much younger.  Guy went to hit big power chord - nothing.
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: espo on August 18, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
Hey!! Thats cheating    ;D
Title: Re: I want to natter
Post by: tekla on August 18, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
The only way you can cheat at at a battle of the bands is to have someone with real talent.