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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: flux_capacitor on August 31, 2011, 10:35:35 PM

Poll
Question: How do you feel about your penis? (Or, how did you feel about your penis before you had gender reassignment surgery, post-op ladies?)
Option 1: I won't even look at it; I certainly won't touch it or let a partner touch it.  I want it gone ASAP. votes: 36
Option 2: I'm okay with using my penis for sexual pleasure etc. but I want gender reassignment surgery eventually. votes: 60
Option 3: I want to keep my penis, and I am content with it. votes: 11
Title: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: flux_capacitor on August 31, 2011, 10:35:35 PM
This is just something I'm really curious about.  I know that the stereotypical transwoman wants nothing to do with her penis, but I wanted to know how you ladies really feel.  :D
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Lily on August 31, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
I'm somewhere between 1 and 2. Using it for sex doesn't really interest me, but it's not horrifying. I'm sort of indifferent to it. Having an orgasm is ok but not necessary, I'm more interested in giving than receiving.

I do want SRS eventually, but it's not as pressing a need as my voice and face are.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: eli77 on August 31, 2011, 11:04:15 PM
Depends on the day as to whether I'd vote 1 or 2. Sometimes the dysphoria is bad, and sometimes it is really bad. I definitely want it gone though. I'd go for surgery tomorrow if I was allowed.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Sandy on August 31, 2011, 11:18:50 PM
I think you need one more entry on your poll:

() What penis?

;D ;D ;D

-Sandy
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on August 31, 2011, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: Sarah7 on August 31, 2011, 11:04:15 PM
Depends on the day as to whether I'd vote 1 or 2. Sometimes the dysphoria is bad, and sometimes it is really bad. I definitely want it gone though. I'd go for surgery tomorrow if I was allowed.

I agree , except for the part I striked through.
iiiiiiiiiii have not really experimented with "it" but I'm curious so yeah.

Is that even legal to say.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Ann Onymous on August 31, 2011, 11:21:01 PM
I wanted nothing to do with mine from an early age...and the sooner it was gone, the better.  It has been gone for many years now...
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Kaelleria on August 31, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
Well I had surgery last week but never really fell into any of those categories...

I was subconsciously hugely dysphoric about it, but consciously indifferent about it...
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on August 31, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
Quote from: Lily on August 31, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
I'm somewhere between 1 and 2. Using it for sex doesn't really interest me, but it's not horrifying. I'm sort of indifferent to it. Having an orgasm is ok but not necessary, I'm more interested in giving than receiving.

I do want SRS eventually, but it's not as pressing a need as my voice and face are.

I would have written this verbatim. When sleeping with men, I give oral, but never have enjoyed receiving it.

I'd be interested to know the age of the voters. I myself am mid thirties and have lived with my ' faults' for a while
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: AbraCadabra on August 31, 2011, 11:33:19 PM
It's not so much that I want it GONE... it's just that I want a vagina then IT.

There are days that IT feels like such an awkward, in the way, appendage. Then it so often strikes me as so much not being me, becoming a stranger to myself...

I do use it to get off, and hope I'll be just as fine after my SRS (coming up in 2 1/2 weeks time).

I sometimes so wish all this was not an issue and I could be OK with the way I am down there - BUT I AM JUST NOT.

Having this extra skin and stuff in this place must somehow be similar to some (most all?) FtMs feel about their breasts? It's just such an unwanted extra. Shame.

Lastly I be so embarrassed to use it for intercourse (penetration) even if I'd be still mechanically able to do it. THAT... the thought alone, actually freaks me out.

I sometimes wonder how I managed to get on this way for SO long.
I guess to some questions there are no real answers.

Thinking about it gets me GID feelings, like getting very close to that 'prison' door I not too long ago walked out of.

It's not so easy to speak about it, kind of sad... eish
Axelle
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: lisadear on August 31, 2011, 11:49:51 PM
I'm between 1 and 2 as well. I don't mind a being used occaisionaly. But if my partner touches it can be a huge turn off. Once your brain and body are rewired by E you don't really think about it anymore. Yes it, thats what I think of it as. Penis while being the nicest way to say it sounds disgusting to me. Oh and I'm lesbian identified.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Lily on August 31, 2011, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: Jenny_B_Good on August 31, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
I would have written this verbatim. When sleeping with men, I give oral, but never have enjoyed receiving it.

I've only had sex once, and I used the "I don't have a condom" excuse to get out of inserting myself. ;D I couldn't imagine having anything but my hand inside of her.

QuoteI'd be interested to know the age of the voters. I myself am mid thirties and have lived with my ' faults' for a while

Well I'm either in my mid 20s or I'm 4 months, take your pick.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Joelene9 on September 01, 2011, 12:13:49 AM
  I choose #2.  I was much closer to a #3 before HRT.  I have no animosity of that thing since everything quieted down in that area.  I have no money for GRS anyway. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: jainie marlena on September 01, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
When IT rises I roll my eyes and hurry up do my biznis. Hoping to sing one day DING DONG witch is dead.  ;D
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Forever21Chic on September 01, 2011, 01:05:45 AM


     I tried to cut "it" off a few times when i was younger & still have a scar on "it" to this day. If i didn't need it to pee i'd prolly have cleaved that thing off by myself years ago.  :icon_anger: 

Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Dana_H on September 01, 2011, 02:40:47 AM
I like mine just fine; I think it is actually attractive as such things go. I just wish I was on the receiving end instead of the giving end. :)  The fact that it is mine is what distresses me.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Padma on September 01, 2011, 02:41:55 AM
I don't hate it, it just feels... really irrelevant. I want it gone, but I'm done with self-hatred. And I'm probably about to find out how it behaves with someone else, it's been a while! I've always been much more into oral than penetrative sex (if I'm the doer rather than the done) - it's never felt "right" doing that. Funnily enough, in my fantasies these days it works, but only if I imagine I'm wearing a strap-on :).
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Cindy on September 01, 2011, 02:48:54 AM
Probably 1 or 2, I haven't used it for anything except a pee for 20 years or so. It's on of those things that if not used is of no great interest, and I'm not interested in it

Cindy
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Medusa on September 01, 2011, 03:36:39 AM
I hate if it do something from its own will - like morning wood and unwanted erections, thankfully HRT solve this problem
If it "sleep" I don't know I have something down here, then it is fine, I can feel like a girl
And when I want to make pleasure I have no problem with it, beautifully feelings flood my body - but it works just if I do it because I want no because I must (like pre HRT)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: azSam on September 01, 2011, 04:04:40 AM
I want absolutely no interaction with my "unfortunate equipment". I don't even like to call it a penis, because I hate the thought of it being attached to my body.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Imadique on September 01, 2011, 04:19:14 AM
I have an amazing partner who helped me progress from number one closer to number two, that said I still want it gone sooner rather than later but while it's still here I have no problem using it if she asks me to (and she doesn't all the time). She understands that it doesn't do anything for me though as far as pleasure goes and finds ways around that too. I feel very lucky :)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on September 01, 2011, 05:04:07 AM
2, I can use it, but I would get sexual dysphoria. I do want the surgery, especially if I get into a relationship.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on September 01, 2011, 05:33:34 AM
Quote from: jainie marlena on September 01, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
Hoping to sing one day DING DONG witch is dead.  ;D

LOL.......... Classic, I'm so using that.

Joke claimed.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: grrl1nside on September 01, 2011, 07:44:39 AM
Between 1 & 2 and would jump on the table immediately if asked. No doubts at all, just get it done... I appreciate all the rules around this, but seriously it is my body... I've come to appreciate all the battles feminists have fought over their/women's bodies much more.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: justmeinoz on September 01, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
I chose 1 because there was no option of, "oh, that thing, it's just a plumbing fitting now, that keeps getting in the way."  I don't really give it any other thought since I started HRT.

Karen
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Sam(my)I am on September 01, 2011, 07:57:42 AM
2 more then 1, I hate doing things with it and have gotten no pleasure whenever any of my girlfriends (and 1 boyfriend I told no one about) did anything with it. It just felt wrong and made me really unhappy and annoyed. I much prefer giving the receiving at any rate, if I had the right equipment then it might be another story  :( . All in all I just don't want it but I can tolerate it because of how deep in stealth I have been...

oh btw age 18
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Ann Onymous on September 01, 2011, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: Jenny_B_Good on August 31, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
I'd be interested to know the age of the voters. I myself am mid thirties and have lived with my ' faults' for a while

mid 40's.  Treatment commenced in the late 80's after finally dodging the dinosaur mentality I ran into during the mid-80's.   
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 01, 2011, 08:53:34 AM
I'm 65,

SRS in 3 weeks.

Go figure,
Axelle
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: flux_capacitor on September 01, 2011, 09:01:46 AM
I'm 19.  Feel kinda disgusted by my genitalia but I do use it for sex and stuff, although recently I've begun wondering if I'd enjoy sex more if I didn't use those parts.  I've lately even considered tucking and using a strap-on.   8)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: kelly_aus on September 01, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: justmeinoz on September 01, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
I chose 1 because there was no option of, "oh, that thing, it's just a plumbing fitting now, that keeps getting in the way."  I don't really give it any other thought since I started HRT.

Karen

That pretty much sums it up for me..
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Nurse With Wound on September 01, 2011, 10:03:02 AM
Like most people have said; somewhere between 1 and 2.

I don't like the thing, and I get a dysphoria from thinking about it and will definitely get SRS. But eventually I can't help using it because of this damned male libido, and when I do I feel like I've lost myself and get dysphoric. Though then I just kind of forget about it until it the time comes around again.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: azSam on September 01, 2011, 10:07:37 AM
I'm 26 and I voted, "I won't even look at it; I certainly won't touch it or let a partner touch it.  I want it gone ASAP."

That's actually very accurate. I hate looking at it, touching it, or even the thought of letting my partner see it.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: inna on September 01, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
It was an instrument by which my beautiful child was conceived, I always hid it from view, subconsciously, the fact I had learned in therapy. I wouldn't miss it and in fact I will eventually get what was suppose to be there in the first place but for now all it is, is an enlarged clitoris with couple of ovaries which dropped down by mistake but will be dealt with even sooner. Sexually however, it is null and no longer an instrument of pleasure, so to answer the question, definitely #1 giving in to patience and bits of #2
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: jainie marlena on September 01, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: Forever21Chic on September 01, 2011, 01:05:45 AM

     I tried to cut "it" off a few times when i was younger & still have a scar on "it" to this day. If i didn't need it to pee i'd prolly have cleaved that thing off by myself years ago.  :icon_anger:
been there myself. Never told anyone.

@jenny b. Good
Got to love the classics. Lol.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Maga Girl on September 01, 2011, 12:11:23 PM
I'm okay with using my penis for sexual pleasure etc. and I am not content with it ... but I don't want gender reassignment surgery       

yes, you can say  -> ???

Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: hilah.hayley on September 01, 2011, 12:38:03 PM
I'm somewhere between 1 and 2. I want it gone right away, at times even wanting to cut it off already. With that in mind however, if I'm making love and it's the only way to get sexual pleasure I let it happen but afterward I feel horrible and disgusted about it. I want it gone immediately.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: VeryGnawty on September 01, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: kelly_aus on September 01, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
That pretty much sums it up for me..

Me, too.  It's just sort of...meh.  Not good or bad, really.

I used to have a lot of dysphoria about it.  But to be honest, these days the genitals are the least important aspect of transition.  I'm much more concerned with voice, general body shape, etc.

Maybe because nobody ever sees it, it seems unimportant.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Hikari on September 01, 2011, 02:18:52 PM
I am no fan of it, and I do want SRS someday, but it isn't my enemy. I mean I don't feel guilty deriving sexual pleasure from it or the fact that it is used in as material in SRS. I am just making do the best with what I have, I guess though I will throw a party once it is gone.

So option #2 for me.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Keroppi on September 01, 2011, 03:36:49 PM
Like so many before me.... None of the above. :)

I generally afford looking at it, but I can and also have no problem touching it if necessary. I don't plan on being in a relationship / intimate with anyone until I'm postop. I do want it gone ASAP. Generally, I do not mastrabute as male does but every once a while I can and do to keep it stretched for when I eventually do have surgery.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: LilKittyCatZoey on September 01, 2011, 03:40:06 PM
how does when i was younger tried to cut it off but it hurt to much sound ? i would care less if i could haven't sexual pleasure but its still needed for srs so to me its material
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: LifeInNeon on September 01, 2011, 08:36:04 PM
I have used it plenty in the past decade and never minded it. But the flip side is that I often (not always) put myself in the role of being on the receiving end. I enjoyed the physical sensation plenty, but sex was very much a projective experience for me.

Now that I've started, I've found my sexuality changing. Now that I don't need to transfer my desire to be a woman to wanting to be WITH a woman, I have found that I enjoy women as companions more than partners. From a young age I wanted female friendship; it was the next logical step to have a female partner due to my obsession with the female body. But I'm liberated of that now.

Curiously, as a result, I am now much more uncomfortable about my penis. *I* am fine with using it; but I wouldn't want a partner to, nor would I want to use it on them. Its internalized BS, but I would feel like if a partner wanted to use it, it would be because they see me as part male. No amount of Julia Serano's reasoning undoes the weird feeling. It also makes me uncomfortable because I do plan on SRS and I am unsure about entering into a relationship when things will be changing.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Stephe on September 01, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
None of the above fits me.

For me sex has always been a projected experience i.e. I mentally feel I am female during sex to get off. Hard to explain but I don't feel -it- during sex however it happens. I haven't used it for it's intended use in 20 years so wouldn't miss it, if I could still have an orgasm. I wouldn't give that up to have it gone though.

I don't like it being there but I don't hate it either. Wish it was gone but not sure it would change my life enough to go through surgery/recovery/risk of never having an orgasm again. For me the whole GID thing is more about being socially accepted as a woman, not what my body looks like when I'm naked.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Stephe on September 01, 2011, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: LifeInNeon on September 01, 2011, 08:36:04 PM
Curiously, as a result, I am now much more uncomfortable about my penis. *I* am fine with using it; but I wouldn't want a partner to, nor would I want to use it on them.

Can totally relate to this. My present relationship has ended up being what many people would see as "odd" but it works for both of us :)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Janet_Girl on September 02, 2011, 12:38:27 AM
It isn't gone yet.

Where did I put that scalpel? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys.on-my-web.com%2Frepository%2FAnimals%2Fferret-9.gif&hash=42bd2ee88d4ddc91007b3b25799f543e9ee358f1)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: shelley on September 02, 2011, 10:36:44 AM
It's never really been anything but somewhere to pee out of for me. Although i don't hate it, it's just there and hardly has much use sexually anyways. I can't wait to start HRT so i don't get sudden urges from it in the mornings etc which i really don't like waking up too.

I will most definately have srs in the future though.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: chloe23 on September 02, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
 To me it was also nothing more than to just pee out of. My penis has never felt or looked good on me. I will definitely be happy when it's gone:).

Chloe
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Cyndigurl45 on September 02, 2011, 01:48:33 PM
Once a day in the shower I unhook my PA n guichi wash real good dry off some powder and I don't have to touch that nasty thing for another 23 1/2 hours :)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Susan Kay on September 02, 2011, 02:35:35 PM
3 months post surgery, so some perspective from both sides - the "dark" side I came to, and the "much darker" side I came from. I never hated "It" (is that sort of like the Adamms Family's "Thing"?) I got erections, I penatrated, I orgasmed. "It" served it's designed purpose until maybe 15 years ago when "It" ran out of steam. I still orgasmed, "It" just could not reach penatration quality. That did not bother me a bit for me, but was hard on my wife. Oh my, did I type that?  :o  :embarrassed: We made do with what we had. "It" served the important purpose of peeing, though for years I just naturally was more comfortable sitting.

Now that "It" has left the building, I really miss it - NOT!

An update to a previous post I did about post op orgasm; which is nothing new to report. I assume it will come (oh good grief!) but hasn't yet. Natal females I've talked with say they took awhile to reach climax when first trying. They said don't worry about it, it will happen, and that seems to be the majority opinion of other post-ops as well. Also, I do not obsess about it - it just is not so important now that "It" is gone ... well, ingrown. It is wonderful not to be so sex-craved, and having "It" so handy was, well, handy. But it is now nice to not be so stimulated.

Susan Kay
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Tippe on September 02, 2011, 03:22:50 PM
Between 1 & 2

I have never attempted cutting it off or been suicidal about my body, which confuses me a lot.

On the other hand I sit to pee, often without turning on the lights, I have found myself turning my head away physically not to look and I have found that when I masturbated (pre-HRT) i did picture myself giving another person oral sex - like the penis was not a part of myself.
I was happy when HRT set me free from testosterone driven masturbation-slavery.

I also haven't had satisfactory intimate relations. At age 31 I'm actually just about to go on my first date ever! I feel I need to do some sexual experiments to see if a partner can make me more comfortable about my body. If that doesn't change anything then I'm ready for SRS.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: pretty pauline on September 02, 2011, 06:18:15 PM
To be completely honest I never hated my penis when I had it, its been gone now for many years, I had my surgery to complete my transition to womanhood and to be able to have a relationship with a man as a straight woman which I could never have if I still had it.
p
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: cindianna_jones on September 02, 2011, 06:55:19 PM
ewe! I hated it. I was married, monogomous, and very faithful. I had kids. "It" was disgusting from my earliest memories.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Amazon D on September 02, 2011, 07:40:57 PM
If you had an orchiectomy its actually only a big clit then. It can't function like it use too. No more of that nasty male whitish goey crap its all "clear" sailing from then on.

I had an orchie at 3 months HRT and by 9 months HRT mine was totally gone

thank you dr meltzer dec 98

Oh yea to answer your question.. I HATED IT AND IT MADE MY LIFE MISERABLE.. AND I AM SO GLAD ITS GONE  THANK YOU GOD FOR HEARING MY PLEAS

Oh and i was so glad mine was gone i surely never wanted to see another again..
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Adabelle on September 02, 2011, 08:30:22 PM
I went through a period of life right as I was hitting puberty where I did kinda dislike it. I really considered cutting it off, but I guess I must have realized that I would really hurt myself and my parents would be disappointed so I didn't. I just hid it from me while I showered etc but learned to live with it. I think it's more what it represented than the penis itself.

I haven't had "hate" for it though where I actually tried to cut or anything. I always was too afraid of cutting myself and blood and all that.

Now days I'm between 1 and 2. While I don't hate it, I don't really want it either or like it. It just is. But I neither feel comfortable using it in sex and never really have. I selected 2 for the survey.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Susan Kay on September 02, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
Quote from: Irish Janet on September 02, 2011, 12:38:27 AM
It isn't gone yet.

Where did I put that scalpel? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys.on-my-web.com%2Frepository%2FAnimals%2Fferret-9.gif&hash=42bd2ee88d4ddc91007b3b25799f543e9ee358f1)

Put down the blade! Step away from the blade! You're scaring the children. And your little friend there. And me. Oh, wait .... no fears about that anymore. OK, as you were!

Susan Kay
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 03, 2011, 02:25:25 AM
Quote from: Lily on August 31, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
I'm somewhere between 1 and 2. Using it for sex doesn't really interest me, but it's not horrifying. I'm sort of indifferent to it. Having an orgasm is ok but not necessary, I'm more interested in giving than receiving.

I do want SRS eventually, but it's not as pressing a need as my voice and face are.

I think this is a pretty good summation. I don't LOATH it, but i sure as heck don't WANT it. I use it to keep the wife somewhat placated but I'd be much happier to never penetrate in any way again. I've had a few casual encounters on an experimental basis and was very pleased to not have it stimulated by touch or any other action, orgasm or no.

Now, on the other hand - i DESPISE the testicles. THOSE little bastards can't be gone fast enough.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Susan Kay on September 03, 2011, 01:56:53 PM
Tammy Hope sums it up pretty well - "It" was there and served some purpose. The other things, I'm so much more happy since they ended up in an incinerator in Philadelphia! Too bad I was unconsious, I would have lit the match!

Susan Kay
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: BillieTex on September 03, 2011, 07:17:25 PM
there has been few and far between the times it worked as designed, i have not interest in seeing it, using it or keeping it.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jayne on September 04, 2011, 07:37:00 AM
I think you should add another option on the poll:

I don't like it but use it frequently even if it makes me feel bad/guilty

I'm under the grip of a very high sex drive & the only way to relieve it is to touch down there, it can take hours to reach the finishing post & then I end up either feeling bad about what i've done or guilty, like i'm a child who's hurt a friend & made them run home crying.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: V M on September 04, 2011, 07:48:35 AM
I call my penis "The Annoying Dangler" and have more important things to think about
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: versuchsanordnung on September 04, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
Somewhere between 1+2 i would say. I definitely dont want it on me, its no part of me. I dont think about it too much, right now i have other issues to deal with. I felt worse about it when i had something resembling a sex life, but thats ancient history (i remember who i last had sex with, but not in what year.... Quite telling imho)
Isn't the whole "loathe your genitalia" thing a classic male train of thought?  For me penis never had this importance.... It feels wrong, yes, it should not be there, but its not important enough to actually hate it. For me its more like a colostomy bag - not pretty, but it has to be dealt with temporary. I know, the analogy sounds odd at first sight, but a friend of mine had to use one of the things for quite a while. And what she described feeling having this thing attached to her resembled my feelings towards the problem field between my legs quite good.....
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 04, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
Colostomy bag, eh, I can relate to that. Looking forward to be rid of it, oh yes.

But hate it? As you say, not REALLY important enough, so long it be gone some time soon.

Thanks, I think that was quite to the point :-)

Axelle
PS: Ja da schaungs Frau Baronin, geins :-)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: versuchsanordnung on September 04, 2011, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: Axélle on September 04, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
PS: Ja da schaungs Frau Baronin, geins :-)
heans, woher kennans den des? Sie werden doch net a gebürtige sein? XD
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Bird on September 04, 2011, 03:08:47 PM
I don't like that thing at all and I get despersonalization and oniric feelings just by looking at it, a terrible angst that can't quite be explained. I never tried to cut it off, but back when I was being hit hard by dysphoria I often tried to pull it out.

If they didn't use it for GRS I'd have just cut if off on my own and to hell with what the folks at ER would say. I feel such a HUGE necessity to have it gone that I won't mind if GRS leaves me completely unsensitive and incapable of orgasming, because using it in those fashions already are horrible experiences and I can't bring myself to it. Just plain having it gone wil be a large progress towards my well being whenever if I do have GRS or just cut it myself.

It is NOT part of my body, it is an appendage, a deformity. I want it gone one way or another.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: lauren3 on September 05, 2011, 11:32:44 PM
TBH I've never been particulary bothered by mine. It doesn't cause me any dysphoria at all. It's more the social dysphoria that kills me, and passing as a girl does not directly link hugely to my penis. I use it an awful lot for pleasure..and I still feel female. I try not to think of it as male or female, and I just try to enjoy what it can offer. Personally I've never been a huge fan of vagina haha. But eventually along the line I will definitely undergo SRS. When I begin to transition, my feeling towards it may change - because if I will start tucking then I imagine.. For the moment I enjoy it.

That's just me.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 06, 2011, 12:09:51 AM
Frau Test setup,

* heans, woher kennans den des? Sie werden doch net a gebürtige sein? *
Ja dann genans scho weida, ge herst. Naa i bin a gebürtige Badenerin (Gelbfüsslerin...)

I was married to a Bavarian girl, just from the other side of the border, Kraiburg a. Inn :-)
She, the good girl, and at least for some time, provided me with a 'proxy' for not having girl parts.

These days I just have to stand more often much closer to the mirror not to see what I do not want to see.

It still provides some pleasure the poor miscreant but gets more bothersome for ever having to pack all this bloody extra skin into place... BIG TIME for a change!

Axelle


Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: JungianZoe on September 06, 2011, 12:15:03 AM
If it wasn't going to be used for SRS (at which point I'll have no problems with its remains being inverted and inserted) I'd want the thing as far from the rest of my body as possible.  But for now, it's strictly don't look and don't touch.  Even feeling its presence sickens me.

Never tried to cut it off when I was younger, but I used to tie rubber bands around it for hours on end hoping that it'd become necrotic and need amputation.  Figured that if I did that, I could fool everyone into thinking it was some sort of mysterious medical condition.  Of course, then I'd have to pee and had to remove the rubber bands, foiling my plans.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on September 07, 2011, 04:45:26 AM
Hey girls,

I asked that question about age because I'm interested in the whole transition stage. At 35 I've kind of dealt with my demons, and actually come to accept my flaws - both physical and mental.

At a guess I'd say that the older girls - 30+ are more comfortable with their appendances (even though they want it gone) than the younger girls.This interests me because the hardest part of this journey is realizing the fact they I will never actually be a woman. I will only ever 'pass'.

I consider this important because things like medical trips – like asking for prostate exams, taking blood tests- I will need to inform the doctors of my history(being male), as this will clearly skew my results and not bring a healthy outcome, as flattering as a doctor calling me miss might be. Even a gynecologist!! Imagine that!

My question is - Will it be easier for me to do explain this than my younger counterparts ? To actually admit who I was?
In regards to post op I've heard (yes.. I've no first hand account) that sexual organs retain the ability to orgasm if they were used in such a fashion before.
Now I'll have the operation even if it means the loss of sensation, but I'd certainly not want to miss out of such a delightfully, energetic and be honest- important part of a female's life. Will my younger counterparts miss out of this because of such a deep dysphoria/hatred for their gentials?

I'd be really interested in your thoughts girls.

Chat away,

Jenny
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Susan Kay on September 07, 2011, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Jenny_B_Good on September 07, 2011, 04:45:26 AM
At a guess I'd say that the older girls - 30+ are more comfortable with their appendances (even though they want it gone) than the younger girls.This interests me because the hardest part of this journey is realizing the fact they I will never actually be a woman. I will only ever 'pass'.

I consider this important because things like medical trips – like asking for prostate exams, taking blood tests- I will need to inform the doctors of my history(being male), as this will clearly skew my results and not bring a healthy outcome, as flattering as a doctor calling me miss might be. Even a gynecologist!! Imagine that!

My question is - Will it be easier for me to do explain this than my younger counterparts ? To actually admit who I was?
In regards to post op I've heard (yes.. I've no first hand account) that sexual organs retain the ability to orgasm if they were used in such a fashion before.
Now I'll have the operation even if it means the loss of sensation, but I'd certainly not want to miss out of such a delightfully, energetic and be honest- important part of a female's life. Will my younger counterparts miss out of this because of such a deep dysphoria/hatred for their gentials?

I'd be really interested in your thoughts girls.

Well, I guess an "older" girl says (1) please say more experienced! (2) I never got more comfortable with the damned thing - I just continued to adapt having it to living, always a preferable choice over dying.

Never actually be a woman!!!  I'm as much a woman as any female that was born missing important female attributes; or had a hysterectomy or double mastectomy. I bet they would object strenously to being drummed out of the female corp because they may have less then 100% of the standard equipment or attributes! I am not a second class woman. I am a woman born with massive gender related birth defects that have somewhat been redressed medically.

It undoubtedly might be uncomfortable first introducing yourself to a new doctor - that should quickly dispell, or you have the wrong doctor. Obviously you need to inform your doctors.

The alternative to admitting who you were is to deny it. I was, and can not change that; I choose not to hide. It's only American society's repressed, sordid and repressive view of sex in general that causes our problems - not our problems that cause our problems.

Sexual response is important. Females often have do not so quickly find their response, but more do. Transsexual persons often do not quickly find their response - I know I have not as yet. I also have found that it does not matter very much. For me, having the right body that doesn't function fully is much more important then having the wrong body that does. So much more so with females is the fact that the mind is their mort important sex organ. With males - well, we know what's important there.

Susan Kay
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: AprilAero on September 07, 2011, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: Forever21Chic on September 01, 2011, 01:05:45 AM

     I tried to cut "it" off a few times when i was younger & still have a scar on "it" to this day. If i didn't need it to pee i'd prolly have cleaved that thing off by myself years ago.  :icon_anger:
same here  , I just knew that I needed it to have SRS. I can't stand it either, I just can't wait until the day I have a vag.

I also feel that it is something that keeps me from being in a relationship, or getting physical.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Annah on September 07, 2011, 07:11:39 PM
im indifferent to it.

I don't use it sexually. My BF doesn't mess with it. But at the same time, I don't get upset and break down if I see it.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Kelly J. P. on September 08, 2011, 12:00:47 AM
I'm in between one and two, myself. It is not the thing I hate most, and honestly, I don't get much opportunity to see it, and certainly never to use it. I'm happy with it being a non-factor in my life, and will be extremely happy to get SRS next year.

It can burn in Hell as far as I'm concerned, but what I hate a lot more are the testosterone-makers. I was tempted for quite some time do DIY those.

I'll say this though. It ruins sex. It is difficult to be intimate without crying because of that darned downstairs neighbour... and his two kids. To that end, I'm more option one. It has caused me a lot of pain... I remember the last time I tried, I ended up crying and screaming. If I had psychokinetic powers, those emotions would have torn the city apart.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: JennaNicole on September 08, 2011, 02:40:13 AM
November 28th, 2011 goes bye bye  ;D

Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: parasol on September 08, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
I'm a MtF transsexual who enjoys and uses her penis.  I always feel in the minority around other TS, but I've learned to accept who I am and not care what anyone else thinks.  TS who hate their penis are no more "genuine" TS than I am.  I pass, I'm a woman through and through.  I just like being the dominant partner in the bedroom.  (I'm attracted to men.)

I've heard it all, that I'm really just a gay man taking it too far, that I'm a pervert, that I'm this that and the other.  But if lesbian and transbian is accepted, why can't top TS?  Is it really so bad that I accept what I have and love it?  I have a lot to offer to a man, and my boyfriend couldn't be happier.

Just wish there was a voice for top TS like there are for so many who bash us.
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on September 08, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: Susan Kay on September 07, 2011, 03:00:18 PM
Well, I guess an "older" girl says (1) please say more experienced!

LOL.... experienced it is. I mean seriously- where are my manners?  ;)
Title: Re: MtF Transsexuals and our Penises
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on September 08, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: parasol on September 08, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
Just wish there was a voice for top TS like there are for so many who bash us.

Well I hear your voice loud and clear !

...and I'd like to think that TS's would accept TG's. Isn't that what this forum is for ?

Love and Respect,

Jen