I know like 70% of tguys are straight...but if you're gay then...would you date another F2M
I'm kind of bisexual/pansexual. and I would definitely date a M2F (or a F2M) at any stage in transition, just as long as I liked their personality.
I would love to date a Ftm, many of them are pretty attractive and they also understand you and so so.
for Mtf I am more picky and nervous,
I bet I somehow are scared to be attracted to mtf for there manly features since I like boyish girls,
and so on, but I have also found mtf pretty attractive and could date on.
I like women. Trans women are women. So long as we get along I don't see it as an issue.
Quote from: xxScarlettxx on November 02, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
I know like 70% of tguys are straight...but if you're gay then...would you date another F2M
Wait, what? I'm confused.
Topic says: "Would you date a M2F", mtf are women and I'm 'mostly' gay so... eehh... I would probably give it a shot but it would be unfulfilling for the both of us.
then you ask "if you're gay then...would you date another f2m" hell yeah I would. You know, if we were compatible.
What are you asking now?
Quote from: Nygeel on November 02, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
I like women. Trans women are women. So long as we get along I don't see it as an issue.
You look pretty hot to me.
i'm pretty much pansexual as well...but i have to admit that i sometimes feel i have more in common with feminine men, tomboyish girls, and other ftms than with the trans women i've met so far, who were all very feminine, and i've never dated a very femine woman (nor an uber-masculine guy).
With all hands raised, definitely. I'd be more worried about connecting/being attracted to that person than whether they were M2F or F2M.
Quote from: Nygeel on November 02, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
I like women. Trans women are women. So long as we get along I don't see it as an issue.
Same.
Straight guy here. Yes.
im a straight guy i have really specific taste in women so if i found a MtF that i think is attractive then i would so date her. being pre op wouldnt bother me either im not all that interested in sex.
I like women. So as long as she can put up with me. Yep I like women. >:-)
Totally would. ^-^
Open-minded guys. Cool.
I'm attracted to women so yeah i'd date a trans woman, it makes no difference to me if they are trans or cis.
Quote from: xxScarlettxx on November 02, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
I know like 70% of tguys are straight...but if you're gay then...would you date another F2M
Would I date a trans woman? No, because I'm gay. Would I date a trans man? You bet I would.
Quote from: Derek on November 02, 2011, 07:26:39 PMWait, what? I'm confused.
Topic says: "Would you date a M2F", mtf are women and I'm 'mostly' gay so... eehh... I would probably give it a shot but it would be unfulfilling for the both of us.
then you ask "if you're gay then...would you date another f2m" hell yeah I would. You know, if we were compatible.
What are you asking now?
I think what the OP means to say is...
If you are FTM and you are straight, would you date a transwoman.
If you are FTM and you are gay, would you date a transguy.
It seems weird to start or end a genuine relationship because of what's in someone's pants. I cannot imagine being turned on to or off of MtFs/FtMs any more or less than any other men or women.
Quote from: Lee on November 02, 2011, 10:38:14 PMIt seems weird to start or end a genuine relationship because of what's in someone's pants. I cannot imagine being turned on to or off of MtFs/FtMs any more or less than any other men or women.
I can imagine it. Like if someone is solely attracted to women, it may be hard, if not impossible, for them to date a pre-op transwoman. I could imagine a person who is just unattracted to anything resembling "male" parts, that they couldn't do. and personally, I wouldn't hold that against them. They are the way they are too, they can't control what they're attracted to.
I will say that I don't tolerate cissexism too well, and usually trans people are a bit better with that stuff.
Really my only requirement with dating is finding somebody with a similar understanding of gender as me.
Quote from: xxScarlettxx on November 02, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
I know like 70% of tguys are straight...but if you're gay then...would you date another F2M
your title is confusing....it asks if one would date a M2F but then in the OP you ask if one would date a F2M
I'm bi, so I would go out with a transwoman or a transman if the opportunity ever presented itself and I found them attractive.
TBH, I may even be more comfortable with them than I would be with a cis person, simply because of the similar experiences we would have had - and I wouldn't have any worries about their reaction to my own transsexualism.
Quote from: Annah on November 02, 2011, 10:55:46 PMyour title is confusing....it asks if one would date a M2F but then in the OP you ask if one would date a F2M
I think what the OP means to say is...
If you are FTM and you are straight, would you date a transwoman.
If you are FTM and you are gay, would you date a transguy.
FWIW I too am a straight guy and as such obviously, yes I would date a (trans)woman! Trans or cis still a woman..!
I will go a little against the grain though in saying I would have some hesitation with a pre op MtF - but it would depend a lot on the connection we had etc.
I'm not saying it's a deal breaker, but for me at least it is definitely something I would have to work at to overcome.
Yes.
I see transsexualism as a physical medical condition. That is like asking "would you date someone with diabetes?".
I like women but if I were to date a pre-op MTF then I wouldn't be able to emotionally handle my dysphoria and hers, especially if I loved the person because I wouldn't be able to bear to see them hurt or anything. So I think I'll stick to cis because it would be a lot easier for me. I would definitely consider dating a post-op MTF though if I ever met one.
I feel if she were early in her transition, like had just come out and was figuring herself out it might be harder than if she were further into her transition. Same goes for a trans man. I am basically bisexual but prefer women.
Quote from: Slytherin17 on November 03, 2011, 12:06:13 AM
I like women but if I were to date a pre-op MTF then I wouldn't be able to emotionally handle my dysphoria and hers, especially if I loved the person because I wouldn't be able to bear to see them hurt or anything. So I think I'll stick to cis because it would be a lot easier for me. I would definitely consider dating a post-op MTF though if I ever met one.
Post op trans men and women can still have and do still have dysphoria at times.
my boyfriend is a FTM
I'm attracted to feminine and genderqueer males. I definitely prefer cis males, from a purely physical perspective, in the same way that I prefer red or black hair, dark eyes, and Asian features. They aren't essential, but they are very nice as frosting on the cake. The cake is more important, though. I can't be in a relationship with someone if I can't be really good friends with them. If I fell in love with a trans guy, so be it. I'm not real turned on by trans-male anatomy, probably because I have Issues related to my own body, but I'd figure out a way to make it work.
I would not date an MtF, though. That's not because I'm a cissexist jerk. It's because I'm gay, and I'm particularly attracted to feminine men. I'd be attracted to her male features, and that would be completely unfair to her.
70% of trans men are straight? Its always seemed to me that 70% are gay or something.
I would date a transwoman, but she would have to be post op. I don't see how it would work out if she wasn't. I don't think I could ever reciprocate. If i was really attracted to her and she only had a boob job I would be willing to work something out and try having a relationship.
And this is my 1k post. I feel like I've spent way to much time on the Internet.
Quote from: Sharky on November 03, 2011, 02:21:09 AM
70% of trans men are straight? Its always seemed to me that 70% are gay or something.
Word. It really seems like that.
I only like guys so yesss, I'd date a transd00d.
He has to be uber cute though ::)
(Which isn't a problem since most of you guys are)
I would date anyone that I liked for who they are not what they have. Otherwise how the hell would I expect anyone to do the same for me?
The only kind of person I could never see myself with is a heterosexual, cisgender male (and I suppose I wouldn't end up dating a straight guy now, anyway). And that's probably because of the three men I dated - two of whom I had sex with, all three of whom I sucked off - before coming out as anything queer. I wasn't attracted to their personalities, and I'm not completely sure how I feel about male genitalia. But if I were with a pre-op MtF I'd be comfortable with her genitals and would treat them the same as I would any woman's nether regions, and obviously respect her boundaries the same as I would any woman's.
I would not have any second thoughts if I met a wonderful woman who digged me back and happened to be a transsexual as well. It wouldn't even phase me when she tells me. I wouldn't get excited about it, I wouldn't ask any sexual or genital questions, just like I wouldn't if I were dating a cisfemale. As a transman I wouldn't feel comfortable having someone I just met ask me questions like that so I'd never put someone else in that situation, even if they didn't mind. As far as dating an FtM goes, well, I've never been out as a gay man so the same would apply if I were with a cisguy. I'd probably be very conservative and not open about the relationship.
TL;DR: Yes, I would date an MtF.
i am a straight guy i like womens only womens and yes i would date a trans women.
Quote from: Sharky on November 03, 2011, 02:21:09 AM
70% of trans men are straight? Its always seemed to me that 70% are gay or something.
It might seem that way due to what social circles you run in, but it's really pretty much the same spread as is it in the cissexual population. Some people are straight and some people are gay and some are bi and some are pansexual and some are asexual. It just depends on the person.
I've also heard that HRT can uh, 'adjust' your sexual preferences. Or simply the fact that once you start passing and are cool with yourself you can find yourself attracted to people you weren't attracted to before, for all sorts of reasons. Maybe because your brain chemistry is finally in line with itself or because, psychologically, you can finally see yourself in a relationship with someone as your *real* gender. Like if you were FtM and you didn't want to be with guys because you didn't want to be 'the girlfriend'.
Sexuality is fluid and strange and shifting genders kind of makes everything feel really complicated.
My answer would be. I'm bi. and currently undecided. ftm yes i would date and mtf...ha vent met any in person i dint know how i would feel.
Generally i like bio girls. but not having met a transwoman in person and had the time to get to know her as a person beyond a text message or an email. i will say sure why not id give it a shot after all transwomen are sexy.
And if Ive learnt anything about my sexual preferences its that i can always find some way of seeing the person underneath whatever guise it make take at the time. female male intersex or asexual or even something yet to be discovered i am willing to take time to get to know a person.
Despite having a main preference for ladies and being occasionally called a Casanova i can treat men as well as women to a romantic dinner. flowers and a back massage and curl up on the couch watching their favourite movie even if the genre bores me to tears. I'm still a romantic goth at heart.
As someone who likes the ladies, and the ladies only, I would definitely date a trans lady.
A trans lady is still a lady DUH!
Quote70% of trans men are straight? Its always seemed to me that 70% are gay or something.
I was thinking the same thing.
I'm attracted to women only, which definitely includes transwomen. But to echo what a couple guys have said, it would be difficult to deal with body parts that I want for myself being attached to my lover. Maybe we could get a two for one deal at the surgeon's office and celebrate heartily later. ;D
Quote from: Nygeel on November 02, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
I like women. Trans women are women. So long as we get along I don't see it as an issue.
This, all the way.
I will mention though, that I think that dating a Twoman could have certain advantages that dating a biogirl wouldn't,
Like they would get what kind of dysphoria I'm going through, and they could relate to me being so frisky that I have to go take care of myself xD (I jest, I jest!)
Seriously though, I wouldn't be opposed to it at all, but I won't say that I'm specifically looking for a Tgirl, I just like girls in general :3
Quote from: Derek on November 03, 2011, 08:51:20 AM
It might seem that way due to what social circles you run in, but it's really pretty much the same spread as is it in the cissexual population.
careful estimates are at at least 30% gay ftms - i saw an ftm forum poll where 60% were gay or bisexual. At the same time I agree that sexual preferences and sexual identity are fluid, especially if we allow ourselves to think outside our own box...
(to make sense of the data: Male homosexuality as well as ftm transsexuality have been linked to the testosterone exposure of a fetus in the womb, with ftms getting a dose that's higher than the average female's and gay men getting a dose that's lower than the average male's.....so it makes sense that there'd be a higher percentage of gay ftms than of gay cis men).
I think way more trans people are gay/bi so on, than cis because trans people tend to be more openminded about it,
well thats how I see it, if I already have dealt so much about comming out as a guy, which is pretty hard, then why be in the closet with my sexualety?
Quote from: Natkat on November 03, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
I think way more trans people are gay/bi so on, than cis because trans people tend to be more openminded about it,
I don't think so. Sexuality doesn't really have to do with open-mindedness but who you are attracted to.
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 03, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
I don't think so. Sexuality doesn't really have to do with open-mindedness but who you are attracted to.
not like that,
I just think more transpeople are able to admit there gay or bi or whatever than cis-genered people.
Quote from: Da Monkey on November 03, 2011, 07:15:08 AM
I would date anyone that I liked for who they are not what they have. Otherwise how the hell would I expect anyone to do the same for me?
I wish I could say the same, but it doesn't work for me.
Quote from: Derek on November 03, 2011, 08:51:20 AM
It might seem that way due to what social circles you run in, but it's really pretty much the same spread as is it in the cissexual population. Some people are straight and some people are gay and some are bi and some are pansexual and some are asexual. It just depends on the person.
I've also heard that HRT can uh, 'adjust' your sexual preferences. Or simply the fact that once you start passing and are cool with yourself you can find yourself attracted to people you weren't attracted to before, for all sorts of reasons. Maybe because your brain chemistry is finally in line with itself or because, psychologically, you can finally see yourself in a relationship with someone as your *real* gender. Like if you were FtM and you didn't want to be with guys because you didn't want to be 'the girlfriend'.
Sexuality is fluid and strange and shifting genders kind of makes everything feel really complicated.
I don't really know any gay or trans people in real life. Just online and it seems most are. It's never seemed fluid for me.
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 03, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
I don't think so. Sexuality doesn't really have to do with open-mindedness but who you are attracted to.
I agree.
Generally speaking, trans-people don't walk up and immediately tell everyone what's in his/her pants or (if post-op on bottom) what used to be in his/her pants.
So.... until she told me (if she told me), I would have no way of knowing that the woman I was dating is a transwoman.
That said, I would date anyone because I'm panromantic. However, I would not have physical intimacy with any woman whether she is trans or not because I am only sexually attracted to men; I would also not have full on sex with another FtM because looking at his would remind me of my own and also because the genitals I like/am aroused by are those of cismen.
I WENT TO A TRANS SEMINAR IN ATLANTA LAST MONTH AND SAW A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LOOKED ALL MAN WITH HAIRY CHEST LEGS BEARDS AND WOW I WAS FREAKING OUT,
I COULD NOT BELIVE THEY WERE ONCE FEMALE? I DONT KNOW IF I SHOULD EVEN SAY FEMALE BEACUSE THEY NEVER WERE LOL. THE ESTROGEN MIGHT OF MADE THEM LOOK FEMALE BUT THEY ARE DUDES I COULD NOT BELIVE IT.
I WAS REALLY IN AN AWKWARD STATE OF MIND BEACUSE I ALWAYS FELT AS A MTF TRANS GIRL THAT STRIAGHT MEN ARE THE ONLY THING I WOULD EVER FIND APPEALING.
NOW I KNOW HOW ALL THOSE STRAIGHT GUYS FEEL WHEN THEY HIT ON ME AND I TELL THEM IM TRANS.
PROABLY THE SAME WAY I FELT WHEN I SAW THESE FTM GUYS.
DONT KNOW IF I EVER COULD DO IT THOUGH,
I NEED SOMEONE WITH A BIG PENIS. BUT THATS JUST ME. IM ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AS SOME FTMS ON HERE WRITE THEY CAN ONLY DATE A POST OP TRANS.
woah there. all caps implies yelling so you might want to tone that down a little.
Hahahah ahhh
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 03, 2011, 04:32:34 PM
woah there. all caps implies yelling so you might want to tone that down a little.
LOL
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Quote from: Andy8715 on November 03, 2011, 04:32:34 PM
woah there. all caps implies yelling so you might want to tone that down a little.
YOU NEED TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!
LMAO
Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 05:51:35 PM
YOU NEED TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!
LMAO
No one is going to build a bridge for you to live under. But most of us probably will not read your posts as all capitals are rather hard on our eyes.
Using half-way decent spelling, grammar and punctuation is merely a common courtesy here.
Quote from: Epi on November 03, 2011, 06:08:32 PM
No one is going to build a bridge for you to live under. But most of us probably will not read your posts as all capitals are rather hard on our eyes.
Using half-way decent spelling, grammar and punctuation is merely a common courtesy here.
OHHH YOU NEED TO BUILD A BRIDGE TOO LOL.
ITS VERY SIMPLE. DONT READ IT IF IT BOTHERS YOUR EYES AND DONT REPLY EITHER. ITS VERY RUDE TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND HOW THEY NEED TO WRITE.
Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 06:13:21 PM
OHHH YOU NEED TO BUILD A BRIDGE TOO LOL.
ITS VERY SIMPLE. DONT READ IT IF IT BOTHERS YOUR EYES AND DONT REPLY EITHER. ITS VERY RUDE TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND HOW THEY NEED TO WRITE.
If you're looking for a forum of allies, you're not going to find them with a bad attitude. If you'd like to be heard though; as everyone does, you should extend the same common courtesy that we extend to not only you, but other members of this forum as well. Everyone has different backgrounds, but we all make an active effort to communicate openly in a way we can all understand.
Quote from: Epi on November 03, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
If you're looking for a forum of allies, you're not going to find them with a bad attitude. If you'd like to be heard though; as everyone does, you should extend the same common courtesy that we extend to not only you, but other members of this forum as well. Everyone has different backgrounds, but we all make an active effort to communicate openly in a way we can all understand.
I THINK THE ONE LOOKING FOR ALLIES IS YOU, LOL. NOT ME. I CAN HAVE MY OWN PERSONA AND DO NOT NEED OTHER PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR ME. I CAN FIGHT FOR MYSELF. THATS THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN :> NOW GO HURDLE WITH YOUR ALLIES AS IT MAKES U FEEL MORE SECURE LOL.
Enough folks, stop the attack of words.
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And btw I'd date anyone if they're OK irrespective of their gender, ethnic origin, religious belief etc...
LMAO
Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
I WENT TO A TRANS SEMINAR IN ATLANTA LAST MONTH AND SAW A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LOOKED ALL MAN WITH HAIRY CHEST LEGS BEARDS AND WOW I WAS FREAKING OUT,
I COULD NOT BELIVE THEY WERE ONCE FEMALE? I DONT KNOW IF I SHOULD EVEN SAY FEMALE BEACUSE THEY NEVER WERE LOL. THE ESTROGEN MIGHT OF MADE THEM LOOK FEMALE BUT THEY ARE DUDES I COULD NOT BELIVE IT.
I WAS REALLY IN AN AWKWARD STATE OF MIND BEACUSE I ALWAYS FELT AS A MTF TRANS GIRL THAT STRIAGHT MEN ARE THE ONLY THING I WOULD EVER FIND APPEALING.
NOW I KNOW HOW ALL THOSE STRAIGHT GUYS FEEL WHEN THEY HIT ON ME AND I TELL THEM IM TRANS.
PROABLY THE SAME WAY I FELT WHEN I SAW THESE FTM GUYS.
DONT KNOW IF I EVER COULD DO IT THOUGH,
I NEED SOMEONE WITH A BIG PENIS. BUT THATS JUST ME. IM ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AS SOME FTMS ON HERE WRITE THEY CAN ONLY DATE A POST OP TRANS.
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME!?!?!?!?!?! *breaks down crying*
Quote from: xxScarlettxx on November 03, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME!?!?!?!?!?! *breaks down crying*
IM SORRY SWEETIE MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN,
SEE HOW NICE I AM WHEN SOMEONE ISNT SO DAMN RUDE,
SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY TO TELL OTHERS HOW TO WRITE IN A RUDE WAY AND THEN THEY GET MAD WHEN YOU DEFEND YOURSELF FROM THEIR RUDENESS.
ITS MIND NUMBING, REALLY,
I would probably date a FTM guy. Some of the guys in here are kinda cute & some even look like Justin bieber! :icon_blink:
Quote from: Sharky on November 03, 2011, 05:32:30 PM
LOL
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LOL the horse's face.
Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 09:05:31 PMIM SORRY SWEETIE MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN,
SEE HOW NICE I AM WHEN SOMEONE ISNT SO DAMN RUDE,
SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY TO TELL OTHERS HOW TO WRITE IN A RUDE WAY AND THEN THEY GET MAD WHEN YOU DEFEND YOURSELF FROM THEIR RUDENESS.
ITS MIND NUMBING, REALLY,
LOL, this made me laugh :P
I'm sorry. but that's so funny about your caps key. that must really suck. I would try to fix that right away if I were you. Luckily there's google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=caps+key+is+broken+how+to+lowercase) to help us. And the first few links there are kinda handy to do until you get a new keyboard. I hope it's not a laptop.
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 03, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
LOL the horse's face.
as soon as I read woah there I thought of a horse doing that. I felt I needed to create and share my mental image. I did a Google image search for woah there horse. The when I saw that horses face I thought it was perfect so i put it through the lol generator. :P
QuoteIM SORRY SWEETIE MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN,
Here, little lady...lemme fix that for ya. ;)
That horse is doggone funny.
Something else that just struck me as funny is the original question was would you DATE an MTF/FTM.
Look how many of us jumped in the sack on the first date, lol. Myself included.
Yep, I would certainly date a MTF. Like the common sentiment, I like women and of course they are women. I think there is the side benefit of both sides understanding a bit of what the other has gone through is attractive as well.
Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 09:05:31 PM
IM SORRY SWEETIE MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN,
SEE HOW NICE I AM WHEN SOMEONE ISNT SO DAMN RUDE,
SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY TO TELL OTHERS HOW TO WRITE IN A RUDE WAY AND THEN THEY GET MAD WHEN YOU DEFEND YOURSELF FROM THEIR RUDENESS.
ITS MIND NUMBING, REALLY,
How is your caps lock broken? You should be able to pop the key off or use the on screen keyboard to turn it off.
Yes, i would date M2F, F2M, a cis male or female, a non binary person, whatever. As long as the chemistry is right. Of course, this is purely hypothetical, since I'm in a long term relationship.
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Yes, if I could find one who was interested in me and vice versa :|
To be really honest, I don't know.
I am not trying to offend anyone so be warned before reading the below.
The mental part of dating an MTF would be really easy. If I like her, and can relate to her she is just like any female. Physically it would be challenging because I would be jelous that she got to be born with the body I want (and vice versa) and I would find the sex akward if not impossible if she were pre-op. I know that probably makes me sound like I am only after one thing but sex is a part of a healthy relationship and it is important to me. I don't think I could stay in a relationship without it.
Quote from: Mr.Rainey on November 05, 2011, 03:43:09 AM
To be really honest, I don't know.
I am not trying to offend anyone so be warned before reading the below.
The mental part of dating an MTF would be really easy. If I like her, and can relate to her she is just like any female. Physically it would be challenging because I would be jelous that she got to be born with the body I want (and vice versa) and I would find the sex akward if not impossible if she were pre-op. I know that probably makes me sound like I am only after one thing but sex is a part of a healthy relationship and it is important to me. I don't think I could stay in a relationship without it.
what if she was post op? lol.
i agree with you. i could never be with a ftm unless they had a penis.
Obviously its implied she isn't post op.
If she had a vagina then that would make the question boring since it'd be just like dating a cisgender girl.
My boyfriend is a transguy.
I know I said I would date one, but I just wanted to clarify I actually am.
and I love him and his bits :D
*actual proof that you don't have to be a trans ->-bleeped-<- to develop an attraction to a pre-op transpersons privates *
Quote from: JoeyD on November 05, 2011, 03:59:59 AM
Obviously its implied she isn't post op.
If she had a vagina then that would make the question boring since it'd be just like dating a cisgender girl.
My boyfriend is a transguy.
I know I said I would date one, but I just wanted to clarify I actually am.
and I love him and his bits :D
*actual proof that you don't have to be a trans ->-bleeped-<- to develop an attraction to a pre-op transpersons privates *
huh? lol im lost. are u a mtf or ftm? lol. im a blonde by the way.
Gender marker says female.. soo...
I'm FTM.
Quote from: JoeyD on November 05, 2011, 04:04:39 AM
Gender marker says female.. soo...
I'm FTM.
ummmmmmm. did u know that most born males that are pre op and post op transexusals on here put female
just making sure your aware of that. lol
your the first ftm that ive known to put female. why do u put female if u identify as an ftm? cuz your being honest?
most ftm would get offended if u called them a female.
are u sure u wanna be a guy?
Forgive me for giggling here.
... ehehehehe.
lol it was a joke woman!
Why were you confused if my gender marker was there.
o.o
My profile is now offended that you didn't take the time to look at it.
Quote from: JoeyD on November 05, 2011, 04:13:32 AM
lol it was a joke woman!
Why were you confused if my gender marker was there.
o.o
My profile is now offended that you didn't take the time to look at it.
oh my god stop it. its 5 in the morning my brain is not functioning like it should lol. yea i thought u were mtf and your lover is ftm? wow thats so cool. u go girl. lol
I would definitelly do it. I am attracted to all kind of people, men, women and androgynous. I am very sacared of not finding a partner if I transition, though. I don't know if most people is like me outside the trans world.
Most likely not. I'm just not into girls at all.
I'd probably date another ftm, if I got along with them. I don't know if I'd be able to have sex with them, though (and I feel like a total ->-bleeped-<- for it). Any kind of female-bodied nudity throws me into an anxiety attack, now. I kind of hate myself for that.
I'm gay, would date an FTM!
(Hell I'd marry Adrian Dalton! :D)
Actually, just reading N.Chaos's comment. I think could become an issue :(
But then again it kinda has been in my relationships with gay men. From my side more than theirs. My body will always give me a low sex-drive I think, despite T and its hard for a bio-guy to accept that.
I suppose with an FTM there would be more understanding when it came to sexual relationships.
Well having a date is no invitation for sex ! So yes i would
I date all types of human beings, so long as they're nice enough, we're on the same wavelength, etc. - so yes, I'd date a trans person.
In fact I seem to gravitate towards trans folk in particular, maybe 'cause I feel there's more of a chance since we'd understand each other, we have similar issues, etc... I'll deal with the sex issue if or when it happens :P
Yes
I would most definitely date an MTF. I know one that is absolutely stunning and I cherish the time I've been able to spend with her. But, I would also date an FTM. The only person I would have a problem dating is a cis man because of dysphoric reasons.
Quote from: Preston on February 23, 2012, 01:20:48 AM
The only person I would have a problem dating is a cis man because of dysphoric reasons.
I'm so glad I'm not alone in that boat.
FTM I don't think I would but I'm not ruling it out at all, just feel it would be twice the drama
I'm bi so I am attracted to men and I find FTM's attractive but I think because I have so many insecurities and so much I dislike about myself I'd find it hard with an FTM as they'd share a lot of the things which I dislike because I dislike about myself, if that makes sence, no offence intended there, it's just me being weird and insecure haha. I wouldn't rule it out though, depends on the person not what gender they identify as.
Not sure about MTF because I prefer men so it's difficult for me to feel attracted to people who identify as female, but again not ruling it out :)
i'm attracted to people on an emotional and mental level rather than physical, so it really doesn't matter to me what gender or sex they are. if we have a connection, that's all that really matters. the only thing i'd be concerned about is exacerbating either persons' dysphoria, particularly in a sexual context, but i think that in a relationship with an MTF there would be a level of complete understanding that would be difficult or impossible to achieve with a cis gendered person.
plus there are some really hot chicks here....
I would never date another trans individual. Definitely not MTF cause I'm gay and I make sure to steer clear of other FTMs because of the horror stories I've heard. Trans pairs (especially FTMs) tend to compare each other's progress, surgeries, and "passability" from what I've seen - and I could completely see myself do that. It would just be unhealthy I think for me.
Horror stories? lol Please share.
Flipping this around, I would date an FTM if we have chemistry. I don't see a problem with that.
Quote from: ChesireBat on February 23, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
I would never date another trans individual. Definitely not MTF cause I'm gay and I make sure to steer clear of other FTMs because of the horror stories I've heard. Trans pairs (especially FTMs) tend to compare each other's progress, surgeries, and "passability" from what I've seen - and I could completely see myself do that. It would just be unhealthy I think for me.
My first instinct would have been to disagree with you, but I know what you mean because I have known a number of FTM/FTM pairs and, yes, this can be a problem, but usually more when it's early in transition, I think. But, yeah for some reason this seems particularly common among FTM couples.
Now, as far as the original question goes:
Yes, I would and I have dated MTF's.
As far as FTM's go, I don't know. I'm less attracted to men generally. And it just seems kind of like opening pandora's box of disphoria, depending on what stage of transition.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on February 23, 2012, 09:52:39 AM
Horror stories? lol Please share.
For one couple I knew, the comparing went too far and the less-passable or not-as-far-along on T individual STOLE their partner's hormones without telling them so they could "catch up". The other individual couldn't find their hormones (and didn't yet find out that the other one threw them away) and tried to get more. Long story short, the doctor wouldn't prescribe another batch until the old prescription ran out and the individual got rather ill because they were suddenly out of T and they had been on it for years. When the truth came out, the relationship ended.
A couple other stories include self-mutilation attempts (or self-surgeries) within couples where one is post-op and the other is pre-op, especially when in comes to top surgery.
I've also heard multiple stories of cheating and unfaithfulness because one of the partners decides that a strappy is simply not "man enough" than the "real" thing.
Granted, the last one is not so much horror as much as it is foolishness. But I think that would be another reason I could never date another FTM - although I do not agree that what is in between your legs defines what you are, I just simply could not have a sexual relationship with a person with biologically female genitalia. Perhaps an asexual relationship if comparing wasn't an issue. Overall, I think it would just be simpler to go with a biologically male partner.
Why's someone bumping all these posts from November? o________O
Yes; I'd date a woman.
Quote from: poptart on February 23, 2012, 04:03:13 PM
Why's someone bumping all these posts from November? o________O
Yes; I'd date a woman.
Why not?
Quote from: Malachite on February 23, 2012, 04:05:45 PM
Why not?
Just wonderin. At first I was annoyed but, eh, I guess it makes the place more interesting since its been slow lately.
Quote from: poptart on February 23, 2012, 04:23:00 PM
Just wonderin. At first I was annoyed but, eh, I guess it makes the place more interesting since its been slow lately.
My thoughts exactly. :D I felt awkward that I couldn't contribute much to some of the other posts recently so I figured I'd go back and find some I could answer better. I didn't mean to annoy you. Sorry that I did at first.
I like when old posts get bumped. Having a conversation that spans months makes me feel like a wizard. ;D
I'd date a transwoman. I like people.
Quote from: ChesireBat on February 23, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
For one couple I knew, the comparing went too far and the less-passable or not-as-far-along on T individual STOLE their partner's hormones without telling them so they could "catch up".
A couple other stories include self-mutilation attempts (or self-surgeries) within couples where one is post-op and the other is pre-op, especially when in comes to top surgery.
omg.
A friend of mine who is also mtf is dating a transman and they're absolutely adorable together!
I'm actually kinda jealous of what they have with each other so yes I would date a transman if we had chemistry.
To me, I don't see folks as FtM or MtF or anything like that. A lady is a lady if she says so, and a gent is a gent if he says so. And if you're neither/something in between/both/etc? I'll roll with it and do my best to be a supportive partner.
What matters to me is how I interact and get along with someone, not what's between their legs. If I can find someone to be happy with and find a great friend in, then I'm cool with them. Granted, if I were to date a trans lady(or even a cis guy), I would probably feel very envious of what they have and it might strain the relationship/make anything sexual damn near impossible, but if I cared enough about that person and they me, things might turn out alright.
Probably gonna bring down the fires of hell on myself, judging by the previous pages, but eh.
My view of it is pretty much that there's two levels of being attracted to someone (basically), gender identity and, in my case at least, the genitals themselves.
Personally, I like girls and have a strong preference for boobies/all the other girl-goods. So technically speaking, I'd be strictly attracted to ciswomen, I guess.
im a straight female and i would date a FTM,ive seen alot of them that are soooooo hottt
Quote from: Angelique1994 on February 24, 2012, 05:11:50 AM
im a straight female and i would date a MTF,ive seen alot of them that are soooooo hottt
Dating a MTF would mean you're in a lesbian relationship. lol
Quote from: JoeyD on February 24, 2012, 05:43:28 AM
Dating a MTF would mean you're in a lesbian relationship. lol
sorry i meant FTM lol
Quote from: Angelique1994 on February 24, 2012, 06:04:22 AM
sorry i meant FTM lol
I said a lot of silly stuff when I was new to this too. :D
yes :) a woman is a woman, in my eyes. Regardless of history.
I think I'd almost prefer dating an FtM,
Not because of a kink, but because I think they'd understand me in a way that a bio-girl can't.
Yep. If we have chemistry.
Cheers to the anniversary of my silly ftm self and my darling mtf girlfriend in roughly half a month. I'm polyamorous/sexual with omni-romanticism/sexuality, and I'd willingly join a poly relationship with anybody that took my interest and had the approval of my present mate. Wouldn't matter if they were cis/trans*.
Yes. I dated an mtf for several months a few years ago and probably would again.
Yes I would. If most importantly I liked their personality, and I found them attractive. Same would go for a cis woman. Actually I would prefer to date an MtF because they would be accepting and understanding of me and I would understand what they are going through in return.
I like shorter, curvy girls, so if she's shorter and curvy then yea. There has to be some kind of physical attraction for me, otherwise I'd rather just be friends.
I'm more into guys so I don't think I'd date and MTF, but I'd definitely date an FTM.
So long as I liked her personality, yes.
I'd date an FTM, but most aren't my type.
I wonder if theres more ftm who would date a mtf than opposite,
or if its just me?
Quote from: Natkat on April 09, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
I wonder if theres more ftm who would date a mtf than opposite,
or if its just me?
I use to only be attracted to MTFs as i started transitioning and as i learned to love myself but these days i find FTM's more attractive but i am still not able to even think about Cis people.. let alone cis men..
Personally i can't understand how trans people can be in a relationship with cis people like they are something special.. when in reality its we who are special, if anybody is special
I am at a point in life where a relationship is not needed and well just having another to share my farm would be cool. any FTM's want to be a farmer ? ;D
I wouldn't date another MTF, but I would probably date a FTM.
Quote from: Kyle_S on February 24, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
yes :) a woman is a woman, in my eyes. Regardless of history.
I absolutely believe this too. However, after dating a few transwomen, I will never date another one again. The stories would be enough to fill a novel.
I 100% believe MtF are true women but I just cannot date another one. I don't think I have the patience, willpower, and fortitude left in me anymore.
I personally would date either m2f or f2m, or in fact cis women or after surgery cis men... ok I I'm not too picky as long as I liked the person. Especially when I get to be post op!
:)
I'm gay and my boyfriend is FtM, same as me. No issues at all, and if I were interested in women, I would have no problem dating a MtF.
Quote from: Annah on April 09, 2012, 08:22:51 PM
I absolutely believe this too. However, after dating a few transwomen, I will never date another one again. The stories would be enough to fill a novel.
I 100% believe MtF are true women but I just cannot date another one. I don't think I have the patience, willpower, and fortitude left in me anymore.
yea well your too healthy and normal for most of them anyway so phtphhh :D
;)
Quote from: Annah on April 09, 2012, 08:22:51 PMI will never date another one again.
I don't like saying never but... I would never date one, ever! Lol.
And Amazon, it's ok. You don't need to understand, I do. ;)
Quote from: JenJen2011 on April 10, 2012, 10:11:09 AM
I don't like saying never but... I would never date one, ever! Lol.
And Amazon, it's ok. You don't need to understand, I do. ;)
I was being sarcastic and kidding see my wink at the bottom..
Quote from: Amazon D on April 10, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
I was being sarcastic and kidding see my wink at the bottom..
Me too. See my wink. Lol.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on April 10, 2012, 11:50:07 AM
Me too. See my wink. Lol.
Yea WOW we have to be careful being sarcastic online.. it could really hurt somebody who might not ask or understand..
Quote from: Amazon D on April 09, 2012, 01:22:29 PM
I use to only be attracted to MTFs as i started transitioning and as i learned to love myself but these days i find FTM's more attractive but i am still not able to even think about Cis people.. let alone cis men..
Personally i can't understand how trans people can be in a relationship with cis people like they are something special.. when in reality its we who are special, if anybody is special
I am at a point in life where a relationship is not needed and well just having another to share my farm would be cool. any FTM's want to be a farmer ? ;D
I dont think cis-genders are special, most cisgenders are kind of annoying to date, because most of them, dont know alot about the trans issue thing and your usunally there only knowlegde or exemple on good and bad, which kind of is annoying in a way.
but many people are cis and I dont really choice who I get attracted to or want to be with,
if I did I would plain it way better im sure.
My sexuality has been acting a little funny lately. When I started to transition I thought for sure I was gay, but now I'm not too positive. Sometimes I think I might like girls, but I dunno.
If I did like women without a doubt, of course I wouldn't reject someone for being a m2f. As long as I found them to be engaging and I was attracted, I don't see what the birth assignment has to do with it.
Quote from: Bradd on April 10, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
My sexuality has been acting a little funny lately. When I started to transition I thought for sure I was gay, but now I'm not too positive. Sometimes I think I might like girls, but I dunno.
If I did like women without a doubt, of course I wouldn't reject someone for being a m2f. As long as I found them to be engaging and I was attracted, I don't see what the birth assignment has to do with it.
I can relate to this.
Prior to starting HRT, I was bisexual by orientation with a preference for women. About 2 months or so into HRT, I was much more towards the center of the Kinsey scale and I was really bi. Now, about 10 months into HRT, I'm finding that I just don't find men all that attractive anymore.
Hormones are powerful things indeed.
Before transitioning I was pretty much into women...now I veer towards men, or women with a masculine edge to their personality. Don't think I would go for a MTF though...but until you meet the person you can never really tell how you would act/feel
I'm pansexual. I just like a person for who they are; so yes :)
I would, and do. :D
I'm MtF and I would... hehe. I think it's a perk of being bisexual... it's like, I see other transwomen as a perfect cross between both genders, and I find that very attractive.
Quote from: Natkat on April 09, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
I wonder if theres more ftm who would date a mtf than opposite,
or if its just me?
I have friends who said they wouldn't because of their genitalia.
I would if we meshed well. I'm pansexual, and personality and how well we match matters way more than gender or what plumbing someone has.
i believe i have previously answered this but times have changed. yes i would date an mtf but i have some shallow requirements that they and all women i date must meet they must be:
shorter then me
lighter
smaller feet
i must also find them attractive i have very specific taste so its hard to find a cis girl that i would date before even considering personality.
As a Pre-Op MTF I have found this thread very interesting. I have for many years only been interested in Women and in transition identify as a Lesbian, but my Australian therapist asked me this very question a couple of sessions ago , just as I was starting again on HRT about whether I could be interested in a relationship with a FTM Transman. I am best probably described as a Lipstick Femme, but as the HRT has started to get hold, I find myself being more and more attracted to Soft Butch women or Boi lesbians. I am not interested in a CIS Male relationship at all, but certainly I could date and have a relationship with a FTM as I believe they would want me to be the feminine partner and I would want them to be the more masculine partner (but without the agressiveness of cis males).
As my body changes and as I am mentally and emotionally change, I find that being close to women or even FTM transitioning can be a tremendously supportive partnership.
Hugs
im staight ftm. my girlfriend is cisgender woman. she support me for who i am. she always been there when i need her. she stay by my side all the time. we been together almost 2 years on march this year.
A guy is a guy, a girl is a girl. Just as many have already said.
Then the normal rules of attraction come into play(well your specific)
Well my mtf girl friend is WAY taller than me. She's 5'9" and I am 5'1". It causes some inconvenience, I have to admit. But if there's a will there's a way, as they say. So we get around it. I don't have a problem seeing her as female, but being pre-T (grrrr), I believe she might not always see me as male. (Not sure she sees me as female exactly either.)
--Jay
I'm in a relationship with a mtf right now actually.
Quote from: judithlynn on January 17, 2013, 12:46:05 AM
As a Pre-Op MTF I have found this thread very interesting. I have for many years only been interested in Women and in transition identify as a Lesbian, but my Australian therapist asked me this very question a couple of sessions ago , just as I was starting again on HRT about whether I could be interested in a relationship with a FTM Transman. I am best probably described as a Lipstick Femme, but as the HRT has started to get hold, I find myself being more and more attracted to Soft Butch women or Boi lesbians. I am not interested in a CIS Male relationship at all, but certainly I could date and have a relationship with a FTM as I believe they would want me to be the feminine partner and I would want them to be the more masculine partner (but without the agressiveness of cis males).
As my body changes and as I am mentally and emotionally change, I find that being close to women or even FTM transitioning can be a tremendously supportive partnership.
Hugs
Ftms
aren't Soft Butch women or "Bois". They're
men. Also, you seem to be projecting a lot on a large group of men in assuming trans guys have some intrinsic difference from cis guys in their personalities. Hell, I don't even expect cis women to be intrinsically different from men in personality, particularly in aggression, considering some stuff I've seen. But regardless of alleged "personality differences" I'm still a man. You wanna see me as a "boi" I'll start calling you a "lifestyle queen" 'cause the whole "ftms are lesbiannsss and special-different from cis men" thing has gotten way too old for me.
To answer the thread topic: I like peen too much to be with a fellow ftm. I can sympathise if I dude's not into me. For some people that's no big deal for others not so. If we could get decent penises then yeah absolutely. With what we've got, I've seen it, I'm just not into it.
Quote from: Bosch on January 17, 2013, 01:25:02 PM
Ftms aren't Soft Butch women or "Bois". They're men. Also, you seem to be projecting a lot on a large group of men in assuming trans guys have some intrinsic difference from cis guys in their personalities. Hell, I don't even expect cis women to be intrinsically different from men in personality, particularly in aggression, considering some stuff I've seen. But regardless of alleged "personality differences" I'm still a man.
I agree with this. I am not a big fan of the boi thing anyways, unless you are talking about some kind of lesbian. Some people might prefer a ftm, because not a typical man (though what exactly is typical anyhow??). I think for some more queer people the other thing that might be appealing is not having typical male "equipment".
But saying we are like bois or soft butch (Huh, thought some used to be stone butch types) is not going to get you too far.
Though I am pre-T (grrr), my girl friend makes of calling me "him" and using male terms. I don't think I'd stick around if I got the idea I was being treated like some "boi". UGH,
--Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on January 17, 2013, 03:38:47 PM
Though I am pre-T (grrr), my girl friend makes of calling me "him" and using male terms. I don't think I'd stick around if I got the idea I was being treated like some "boi". UGH,
--Jay
I always respect these kind of people. I don't know how they do, cause it seems like I can't be that open minded or how to say this. I was in a similar relationship than you Jay, and even when I was pre-T my girlfriend treated me male. So yeah I would date an Mtf, but just post-op. Sorry if it's offensive for anyone, I can't be genderfluid.
Great thread!!! Very interesting comments!
I don't know if I could. I was going out with someone who at the time thought that they were a cis male, and they knew that I really struggled that part of it as I'm not attracted to males at all, and often commented that they'd become a girl if it meant that I would be happier with them. As trans I refused point blank to even consider it thinking that it would have made them really dysphoric, but now they've got over their internalised transphobia (they were accepting of trans people and did activism and stuff, just not themselves) they've realised that they're andro/genderqueer/MTF (something a lot nearer to female than male anyway). I'm in a relationship with a ciswoman now, but I've wondered occasionally, hypothetically of course, if I would be able to go back out with them knowing that they weren't male now. I think the answer would still be no, but as someone who's probably demisexual it's not something I can easily answer. If I really like someone I'll give it a go with them I suppose, but for now it's irrelevant and difficult to think about.
I'm in a long term relationship with a cis female but if circumstances were altered I would prefer a relationship with a transwoman. I think there would be something nice about having someone who totally understands what you're going through without you having to explain everything.
I checked this thread to see if I had answered before, but couldn't find it...anyway, the answer is yes. :) I've been attracted to both cis women and trans women, and to me, it all feels the same. As I see it, a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman.
Since a few other people brought up pre-op/non-op versus post-op, I'll also say that isn't a factor for me. It's just a small part of the whole woman, for one, and for another, after a period of time on HRT, it seems that most of the time a girl penis reacts and responds a lot different from a boy penis.
Quote from: Jared on January 17, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
I always respect these kind of people. I don't know how they do, cause it seems like I can't be that open minded or how to say this. I was in a similar relationship than you Jay, and even when I was pre-T my girlfriend treated me male. So yeah I would date an Mtf, but just post-op. Sorry if it's offensive for anyone, I can't be genderfluid.
Jared, I am non-binary in my brain. I want my body more male, as I feel that's what it should be. But as for my thoughts, feelings, heart, whatever-- I am not really male nor female.
But I don't want to be addressed as female. I hope this makes sense to someone. :)
--Jay
I'm attracted to neutral to masculine energy so if the fellow FTM (or MTF* even) falls into this category then sure.
*As in, the rugged, sporty, athletic, outdoorsy type. I used to say unlikely I'd date an MTF because they're heading towards the feminine end of the spectrum, but after thinking about it, that's a generalization.
For sure, I can't date anyone with a cat as I am quite allergic and I will never make them choose me over the cat.
Quote from: judithlynn on January 17, 2013, 12:46:05 AM
I am not interested in a CIS Male relationship at all, but certainly I could date and have a relationship with a FTM as I believe they would want me to be the feminine partner and I would want them to be the more masculine partner (but without the agressiveness of cis males).
Not meaning this as a challenge, but neither of the two cis guys I've had sex with were especially aggressive, unless you count as aggressive the fact that they pursued me and made their desires clear to me. Granted, the second one may have been partially interested because he wanted someone who would accept his desire to crossdress. He claimed (and I definitely believed, considering his presentation and what I know of his interests (which is a lot, since I'd known him socially for about 12 years or more before he started coming onto me) that he is NOT a transwoman. He may be overcompensating a bit -- he does ironman competitions -- but he seemed all man to me, even in a blouse, short shorts and mismatched pantyhose.
I could definitely be attracted to a transman (have admired them for years) but I would be a little concerned that he might have doubts about my intentions, and the fact that I have been lesbian-identified for decades, and regarded my ex from early on as something of a soft butch, might well trigger insecurities for someone who wants above all to be considered a man and nothing else, much as I wish I believed I could be treated as a woman and not fetishized for my trans-ness?
I appreciated that the guys who came onto me were relatively able to ask for what they wanted, and were careful to ask me what I wanted, rather than assume they already knew. I have and had a lot of prejudices about men in general, most of which extend to transmen as much as cis men -- sometimes perhaps even more, since "being man enough" can be a concern and source of insecurity for any man.
I do want to echo what I've read many times in this thread, that some of the attraction would be grounded in knowing that in many ways we are likely to speak the same language, in terms of having both dealt with living as someone transgendered in this world.
Definitely. :) I have no issue dating a MtF or FtM. I just would like for them to be asexual and into cuddling and have a great personality. I don't care what's in the pants or under the skirt. It's pretty much about personality to me.
Quote from: Natkat on April 09, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
I wonder if theres more ftm who would date a mtf than opposite,
or if its just me?
i wouldnt date another MTF but id prolly date a FTM if hes nice and looks good enough. i have pretty high standards like he has to have dark hair, arm muscles, 6 pack, tall, super manly, must be part italian, must have tattoos, must have piercings, and it wouldnt hurt to have spiked hair lol
Quote from: aleon515 on January 17, 2013, 11:04:05 PM
Jared, I am non-binary in my brain. I want my body more male, as I feel that's what it should be. But as for my thoughts, feelings, heart, whatever-- I am not really male nor female.
But I don't want to be addressed as female. I hope this makes sense to someone. :)
--Jay
I guess many of us can relate to this ;)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on January 18, 2013, 12:15:41 AM
i wouldnt date another MTF but id prolly date a FTM if hes nice and looks good enough. i have pretty high standards like he has to have dark hair, arm muscles, 6 pack, tall, super manly, must be part italian, must have tattoos, must have piercings, and it wouldnt hurt to have spiked hair lol
Good luck to find this man :D
Quote from: Jared on January 18, 2013, 08:51:19 AM
Good luck to find this man :D
She should also watch her back. If she finds him, my ex might run her down with her Subaru, in a desperate rage, seeking the same guy. ;)
Quote from: Elspeth on January 18, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
She should also watch her back. If she finds him, my ex might run her down with her Subaru, in a desperate rage, seeking the same guy. ;)
Than I'm safe according to the standards x'D
I'm straight so I would date a MTF at any stage of transition. I would probably only see an FTM as a friend though.
Quote from: xXRebeccaXx on November 02, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
I know like 70% of tguys are straight...but if you're gay then...would you date another F2M
I identify as pansexual, so I'd totally date an MTF, or another FTM, as long as the chemistry was there.
I wouldn't date a mtf, I think. I'm gay, but have also always been attracted to androgyny. I have never ruled out the possibility that I might fall for a woman, it just wouldn't be a very feminine one.
As for dating a ftm.. I kinda feel that if I'm gonna be in a relationship with another guy, at least one of us should have a penis. But oh well. Not a deal breaker if I'm attracted to someone in the first place.
Quote from: John Smith on January 18, 2013, 03:23:33 PM
As for dating a ftm.. I kinda feel that if I'm gonna be in a relationship with another guy, at least one of us should have a penis. But oh well. Not a deal breaker if I'm attracted to someone in the first place.
I'm really tempted here to say something catty about my last (cis) boyfriend's penis. I really wish I had pics.
Quote from: Aaron Gabriel on January 17, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
Definitely. :) I have no issue dating a MtF or FtM. I just would like for them to be asexual and into cuddling and have a great personality. I don't care what's in the pants or under the skirt. It's pretty much about personality to me.
Aaron, the thing I like most about my girlfriend is her amazing sense of humor! Personality is really where it's at for me.
@Jared-- thanks for letting me know you understand my cryptic non-binary comment. :)
--Jay
I would , why not ? You date a person !
You date not to have sex ! But a interesting time .
Quote from: Elspeth on January 18, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
She should also watch her back. If she finds him, my ex might run her down with her Subaru, in a desperate rage, seeking the same guy. ;)
I think the thought would cross my mind also. :P
Hi Bosch and Aleon;
I am awfully sorry if I have offended you. Of course all FTM are Men, just as all MTF are Women. I identify as a woman and I accept that you both identify as Men. What I was trying to say was that like ourselves, I find the transmen have an amazing ability to bridge the gap so as to speak; knowing what its like to be a woman for their earlier life, but experiencing everything (emotionally, physically etc) of being a man. The few transmen that I have known over the years have been truly amazing people and without the aggression and rudeness of some cis gendered males that I have known , or in my case suffered under.
Hugs
Quote from: judithlynn on January 21, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
Hi Bosch and Aleon;
I am awfully sorry if I have offended you. Of course all FTM are Men, just as all MTF are Women. I identify as a woman and I accept that you both identify as Men. What I was trying to say was that like ourselves, I find the transmen have an amazing ability to bridge the gap so as to speak; knowing what its like to be a woman for their earlier life, but experiencing everything (emotionally, physically etc) of being a man. The few transmen that I have known over the years have been truly amazing people and without the aggression and rudeness of some cis gendered males that I have known , or in my case suffered under.
Hugs
I think we do know about both sides. For instance, I think more trans men would be feminists than cis men (yes, I mean feminist males of course.) I am definitely not, nor will I ever be, an aggressive male.
I believe being socialized as female, while socialization of females is sort of a heavy duty thing, also confers a few advantages, enabling some of us to be more social for instance.
--Jay
Quote from: Elspeth on January 18, 2013, 05:36:55 PM
I'm really tempted here to say something catty about my last (cis) boyfriend's penis. I really wish I had pics.
Ditto but for me it was the boyfriend before last. A sweet cisguy but sex was almost as if we were lesbians.
My girlfriend's actually MtF, so in a nutshell, yes. :]
I've dated more mtf then cis girls. So yes. :) (Also just now noticed which subforum this was posted in, why no, I'm not up too late and am very tired.)
I think this thread has run its course.
Locked.