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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 03:13:22 AM

Title: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 03:13:22 AM
I figure women are all about vanity(Oh wait, that was just me)... But seriously.

Let's see some faces.

Why won't some members show us their faces?
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Forever21Chic on December 17, 2011, 03:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 03:13:22 AM
I figure women are all about vanity(Oh wait, that was just me)... But seriously.

Let's see some faces.

Why won't some members show us their faces?

Do i have to?  :laugh:

No seriously i really don't think i have anything to prove to anyone here.

I'm quite confident in my appearance and my voice but there is always room for improvement, at least that's my philosophy.  :P
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 03:25:47 AM
Quote from: Rukia87xo on December 17, 2011, 03:20:05 AM
Do i have to?  :laugh:

No seriously i really don't think i have anything to prove to anyone here.

I'm quite confident in my appearance and my voice but there is always room for improvement, at least that's my philosophy.  :P

+1
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on December 17, 2011, 03:32:41 AM
 I show mine. I'm not always happy about it, but it is presented in an attempt to be honest, open, and trusting towards the other board members. I feel really androgynous - a fact that I'm having a conflict with presently. Androgyny is fun, and I can make an attractive young woman. But I'm frightened by the fact that I can be an attractive young guy, too.

Perhaps it is the same with the others. Wearing an avatar usually requires some self-esteem, and to someone that hates their appearance from the core of their soul, putting a picture of oneself to their profile would be difficult to do. It's like how I was with my voice... when I had to use my male voice, I despised talking, and cringed every time I was made to. I have since put an end to this, but I will never forget how that felt.

... I don't believe that I needed to say any of that, but it feels good to say.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Nurse With Wound on December 17, 2011, 03:33:55 AM
When I am ready, I still suffer from bad drag queen syndrome when using the make ups.

Also, paranoia, I'd probably do it if the picture threads were in the private area since I'm always popping pics up in some IRCs I frequent.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Akashiya Moka on December 17, 2011, 04:09:39 AM
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 03:13:22 AM
I figure women are all about vanity(Oh wait, that was just me)... But seriously.

Let's see some faces.

Why won't some members show us their faces?

You mean like boy pics? I would post childhood stuff if anyone wanted me to (even though I would've once burned them all if not for my mom), but I think I'm so vain/neurotic that I wouldn't post a current pic 'cause I'm not satisfied yet. :P ~I'm pretty warped mentally/emotionally in a variety of ways; one example: I am an insane perfectionist. Insane.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Joandelynn on December 17, 2011, 04:20:30 AM
Showing your face on a transgender forum is really not a smart thing to do if you don't want to be out, especially with developments like tineye.com, pictriev.com, etc. Face recognition software is getting better by the day, and it could easily get you outed.

And like Rukia87xo says, we've got nothing to prove. Everyday I step out of that door and enter a world full of people to get all the validation that I want (and sometimes not ;-). So I really don't need a transgender forum for that.

Also, it's well known that some of the visitors of forums like these are stalkers and ->-bleeped-<-s. One more reason to protect your privacy.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Forever21Chic on December 17, 2011, 04:43:05 AM
Quote from: Joandelynn on December 17, 2011, 04:20:30 AM
Showing your face on a transgender forum is really not a smart thing to do if you don't want to be out, especially with developments like tineye.com, pictriev.com, etc. Face recognition software is getting better by the day, and it could easily get you outed.

And like Rukia87xo says, we've got nothing to prove. Everyday I step out of that door and enter a world full of people to get all the validation that I want (and sometimes not ;-). So I really don't need a transgender forum for that.

Also, it's well known that some of the visitors of forums like these are stalkers and ->-bleeped-<-s. One more reason to protect your privacy.

  Yeah i'm actually trying to go stealth so showing my face on a transgender forum isn't the smartest thing to do.  :D

  I applaud those that openly take part in the transgender community.  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: lilacwoman on December 17, 2011, 05:25:35 AM
how do we insert images in posts?

bit annoying to keep altering avatar.

clicking Insert Image icon above just brings the '(//)'   but what do I do after selecting one of pix on my comp?
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Nurse With Wound on December 17, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 17, 2011, 05:25:35 AM
how do we insert images in posts?

bit annoying to keep altering avatar.

clicking Insert Image icon above just brings the ''   but what do I do after selecting one of pix on my comp?
Upload your image to an external image hosting website and then: <img>image url goes here</img> for example; <img>https://ssl.stealinyourkeys.info.cn/nakedgirls.exe</img>

But replace the < >'s with [ ]'s
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on December 17, 2011, 08:02:12 AM
Everyone knows what i look like!
no one will comment on my damn photos though.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Rabbit on December 17, 2011, 08:06:31 AM
A lot of people are going to be extremely sensitive about how they look.... it is just how our community goes. Those before transition or even during it are often trapped in a sittuation where they dislike how they look (which is, well, why we do the entire transition thing). After transition you will probably find more people who have found at least some amount of happyness with how they look (even if it is just because they can look back and see they have moved away from what they disliked before).

I was extremely sensitive about how I looked before (and still am in certain instances). But lately I have been getting more people confused and thinking I am female online... which is a ton of fun. Even if I still look male, I think I have moved far enough away from where I was before that I can relax a bit and just play around with messing with people :P Also, I have been getting some really positive feedback from those around me and recently started dating... which definitely helps boost confidence.

So, basically, it all just depends where people are in their transition and feelings towards how they look. Being uncomfortable with how we look at one point or another is something all of us go through.

And, of course, some are kind of paranoid of being "outted" ((for those in stealth, even visiting forums like these is probably causing some amount of anxiety).

Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: niamh on December 17, 2011, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: JoeyD on December 17, 2011, 08:02:12 AM
Everyone knows what i look like!
no one will comment on my damn photos though.

You look like a very cute tomboy from what I can see of the pictures you have posted.

Why I don't post a picture? I am not looking to be commented on by people I don't know. Besides, I am not out and I work in a job where I deal with a load of tech savey teenagers who would only be too happy to spread some gossip. I don't think my bosses would be too happy...Finally, I know I don't look pretty and I feel inadequate compared to the rest of ye.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: shortNsweet on December 17, 2011, 08:42:33 AM
I do plan to post pictures eventually. But that has to be when I have the confidence and can stand to look at myself.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Dahlia on December 17, 2011, 09:18:04 AM
Because my facepics were stolen once by someone who posted and  used them as a wannabe TS pretending to be me on a very, very gross '->-bleeped-<- datingsite'.

That won't happen ever again because I won't post pictures of me anywere anymore.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: MsDazzler on December 17, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
I think Masha wants to see what I look like, lol.

On a separate note, her avatar pic is gone now, heh
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: cynthialee on December 17, 2011, 10:34:37 AM
My pics are in the various picture threads.

I ussed to use my own pic as an avatar but that got boring.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: LivingInGrey on December 17, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
I make it a point not to show my real life on the Internet as much as possible. There are only a few situations where I use anything like my real name or an image of myself and thats only on trusted private websites where I know the people who use those sites will respect privacy. I also do not crosslink user accounts for different groups (except for rare occasions). Here I am LivingInGrey, other general internet uses I use a different username.

I've even turned down jobs or quit jobs because those people wanted to put my image on their websites.

It's just the way I am.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: MsDazzler on December 17, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
I think Masha wants to see what I look like, lol.

On a separate note, her avatar pic is gone now, heh

Actually the two members who smite me more than anything are faceless. 90% of the smites come from two members and nothing more.

But I am advertising drag race, since I am rehearsing for it for 2013 I believe.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on December 17, 2011, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: JoeyD on December 17, 2011, 08:02:12 AM
Everyone knows what i look like!
no one will comment on my damn photos though.

yeah, same with me. people here don't comment on your photos unless you look like a "normal woman." i don't really need the compliments though. as long as i like it, that's the only person i need to impress.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: FullMoon19 on December 17, 2011, 01:31:01 PM
yeah, same with me. people here don't comment on your photos unless you look like a "normal woman." i don't really need the compliments though. as long as i like it, that's the only person i need to impress.

People initially commented on my photos A LOT, then I over satured their brains with my beady blue eyes. LOL

Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Sirenia on December 17, 2011, 01:36:59 PM
I will, once I come out of the closet, get my facial hair lasered, my hairstyle fixed, lose moar weight, and all the other things worked on. :D I'm still living completely as male.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Amazon D on December 17, 2011, 01:51:06 PM
Ok here is the femmy me = http://web.archive.org/web/20070503033734/http://hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/myhomepage/news.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20070503033734/http://hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/myhomepage/news.html)

and when i first started after a FFS = http://web.archive.org/web/20050205065104/hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20050205065104/hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/)
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: apple pie on December 17, 2011, 02:03:47 PM
Well, first and foremost, because I look crap ;D

Secondly, I don't intend to let my face be associated with being transsexual on the web...

And thirdly, because I look crap ;)
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: tekla on December 17, 2011, 03:25:50 PM
I like avatars as avatars.  I post a pix every now and again, and there are a bunch on FB. 
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: eli77 on December 17, 2011, 04:09:45 PM
'Cause I'm stealth. And I don't really think about passing much anymore, so most of the threads aren't super relevant to me.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Jen61 on December 17, 2011, 04:12:18 PM
California dreaming....
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:18:33 PM
Because I look just like a guy, maybe something, some light coming out from my eyes in some occasions, nothing more, unluckily... If I would be comfortable I would have post many photos but I don't wanna be remembered like this. Anyway. Big Topic.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: fionabell on December 17, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
This the internet. There's a lot of people on internet forums who aren't who they say they are.

I wouldn't talk to someone who had a burka on in RL so why should I respond here?

It's not that I would be rude or have some shunning policy against a burka wearer, I just physically wouldn't be capable of continuing a conversation.

Especially if you are opinionated or argumentative. It's not illegal to be transgender.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Erin H on December 17, 2011, 04:37:32 PM
 i guess its because i dint think i look good enough yet,  i mean there are photo's of me on here, but not that many, once ive been on hormones for like another month then i will probs start posting some more again

x
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:43:48 PM
some provocations don't consider the fact that not everyone here is ok with their look. Maybe that some has yet done all the ffs, hormones at a very young age resulting in a solid beauty, that for us, is a fight to win yet, and maybe will never be won!
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Jeneva on December 17, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: fionabell on December 17, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
People who don't show their face on this forum don't deserve to responded to. This the internet. There's a lot of people on internet forums who aren't who they say they are.
??????

You've been fairly confrontational recently, perhaps you should consider that everyone is different.

I've actually had pictures up here before.  And I have tons on my Facebook account, but as Tekla said I like the avatar as an avatar.  That picture is a symbolic representation of me and I don't have to worry about whether it passes or not and am not subject to critiques from people I don't know.

Even after my FFS I will likely keep my avatar the same, but there will definitely be a thread full of pictures of my throughout my recovery.


***EDIT***
Just also realized that not only do I have pictures on here in a couple of threads, I actually have a link to our family farm website on my profile.  See that little globe there under my avatar, you can find all kinds of pictures there..  Sure they aren't glamour shots.  They are just shots of our day to day life, but that is so much more real than a staged perfectly posed and perfectly makeup for a picture.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:54:18 PM
well ok i place it but anyway it's better my avatar, so i guess I am ok with the acts of courage for today...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimage.org%2Fe5h0l8v3r%2FFoto_del_17_12_11_alle_23_38_4.jpg&hash=90c3088a45ed17401e3b617eb832f316b5cf97c1) (http://postimage.org/image/e5h0l8v3r/)

no sign of Tsness whatsoever as you see, but much much beard
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Jen61 on December 17, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Mahsa wants to see my oicture to insult me, she is burning with the desire for revenge. She posted a picture of herself and a man. I said it looked like a 50 something and a 40 something couple. She took great insult on it, and well, things have gone ... I placed a public apology to which she did not respond, and yes, we continue to exchange kisses.

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*



Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Diamonds_Pearls28 on December 17, 2011, 05:13:24 PM
Honestly, it's because I'm still pre-transition and this is one of the few places I don't have to show my ugly boy face to the world and I like it that way.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Jen61 on December 17, 2011, 05:13:45 PM
Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:54:18 PM
well ok i place it but anyway it's better my avatar, so i guess I am ok with the acts of courage for today...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimage.org%2Fe5h0l8v3r%2FFoto_del_17_12_11_alle_23_38_4.jpg&hash=90c3088a45ed17401e3b617eb832f316b5cf97c1) (http://postimage.org/image/e5h0l8v3r/)

no sign of Tsness whatsoever as you see, but much much beard


Bellisima senorina ! All you need is some laser hair removal

OO

jen61
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Just Shelly on December 17, 2011, 05:21:01 PM
Why!

What difference should it make unless your posting in the do I pass"

I personally do care if I pass but I don't count it as a priority. I have transitioned where I live, I have children, I have had freinds, relatives, childrens freinds and teachers and........ I could pass 110% but to these people that knew me or knew who I was, I can be trans at the best and I'm sure they'll still see him!!

Or some will even think I'm a DQ or CD!!! nothing I can do about it but it doesn't help that some people on a forum such as this think of me as this also.

I have to appreciate the times I can be accepted as just another plain Jane woman.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: Jen61 on December 17, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Mahsa wants to see my oicture to insult me, she is burning with the desire for revenge. She posted a picture of herself and a man. I said it looked like a 50 something and a 40 something couple. She took great insult on it, and well, things have gone ... I placed a public apology to which she did not respond, and yes, we continue to exchange kisses.

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

get over that, it was 2 months ago and I could give a rats what you think.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: stldrmgrl on December 17, 2011, 05:40:48 PM
QuoteWhy won't many of you show your faces?

I have displayed two photographs of myself as my avatar throughout the time I have been on this site.  My primary reason for not indulging myself in these "do I pass" type threads is mainly because I find them useless.  However, that aside, I am uncomfortable with the way I look on the most part, but occasionally I display photographs I am comfortable with; whether or not I pass in them is irrelevant (obviously).

I understand we are all trans and therefore none of us [should] expect the utmost beauty in these photographs, but I'd prefer to at least have a somewhat feminine appearance in my photographs before displaying them.  Therefore, I can only assume if someone has not achieved even a somewhat feminine look, that may be why they will not post their photographs, and that makes sense to me.

However, I also agree somewhat with fionabell and I will reiterate what I wrote above; I understand we are all trans and therefore none of us [should] expect the utmost beauty in these photographs.  Point being, we are not going to be "shocked" by seeing a somewhat masculine/somewhat feminine looking person; we all had this appearance at one point.

I applaud those confident enough to post their photograph, but I do not disapprove of those who do not.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Amazon D on December 17, 2011, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:54:18 PM
well ok i place it but anyway it's better my avatar, so i guess I am ok with the acts of courage for today...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimage.org%2Fe5h0l8v3r%2FFoto_del_17_12_11_alle_23_38_4.jpg&hash=90c3088a45ed17401e3b617eb832f316b5cf97c1) (http://postimage.org/image/e5h0l8v3r/)

no sign of Tsness whatsoever as you see, but much much beard

wow the avitar could be an identical twin sister wow

your gonna do great
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Nurse With Wound on December 17, 2011, 05:48:27 PM
Quote from: Jen61 on December 17, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Mahsa wants to see my oicture to insult me, she is burning with the desire for revenge. She posted a picture of herself and a man. I said it looked like a 50 something and a 40 something couple. She took great insult on it, and well, things have gone ... I placed a public apology to which she did not respond, and yes, we continue to exchange kisses.

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
As much as I disagree with most of Masha's views you seem to be baiting for drama here just for the sake of it. If you disagree with something someone says you should respond to the thread they posted it in giving critical, constructive reply which can be continued as a normal conversation, sure you'll never agree but it's better than this pointless drama baiting in other threads.  :-\
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Heavenlywind on December 17, 2011, 06:01:23 PM
Everyone has their owns reason as to why they won't show their face. Not sure why people bother to get aggressive to others about it. As for why I don't post my picture is because I hate getting my picture taken, even by myself. I do have a few pictures on facebook and mixi. Pictures don't really mean too much to me either for the most part. How you present yourself is more important when your out and about. If you really want to see how others look like, maybe you can ask nicely. If they say no just respect their wishes and be on your merry way.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: tekla on December 17, 2011, 09:49:22 PM
I tend to take the pix, as a result, there are not all that many of me, but I had to pose for this one.  I was setting up the exhibit and speaking venue at the Jumping Frog site in Calaveras up in the foothills.  That's Phil's first Alembic bass (in stereo), and behind me is the original stage banner from Mountain Aire in 87.  I don't look like much of anything.  This is day 3 or 4 of 8, it had rained twice, been broiling hot, and I'm sleeping in a 4-H barn - when we actually went to sleep, which was rare.  At any rate, one of the stickers is of course the red/white/blue skull with the 13 pointed lighting bolt one of the best known rock logos (otherwise known as 'skull->-bleeped-<-,' or a 'stealie' in polite company (after 'Steal Your Face').  The other sticker is from Apollo 8.

The most interesting man in the world (http://www.flickr.com/photos/westcoastimages/5437336391/#)

Backstage in the green room (yes, I know it's blue, it's just an expression) with some LA singer.  I forget who.  I'm sure she's forgot about me too.  Awww.
StarTime (http://www.flickr.com/photos/westcoastimages/5436804624/#)


I had some shots of me at the Folsom Street Fair, a few of them might be postable (it's not a family friendly event) - I'll see if I can dig them up.


burning with the desire for revenge
Wow, exaggerate much?  I didn't know she was burning, last time I past her she was still just smoldering.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Annah on December 17, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
I have been stealth for almost 2 years now and I have my face as my avatar and I have never been outed by anyone yet. Now, I am not saying it's impossible to be outed my placing a pic of yourself here; but from my experience it has never happened. And if it does happen, I could care less. I am who I am.

Also, if someone says "I saw your pic on a trans site...omg you're trans!" Then I would reply, what were you doing on a trans site.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on December 17, 2011, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Annah on December 17, 2011, 09:59:25 PM


Also, if someone says "I saw your pic on a trans site...omg you're trans!" Then I would reply, what were you doing on a trans site.

I got asked by some gay men why I was on A4A once...then I explained my past and they were like, "You're a girl. It's a site for gay men." I was using the site with my old photos and showing up to the "date" as a girl. I revived my account twice in my transition, namely for IRL prankin.

Do people even know this site exists?
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: SandraJane on December 17, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: fionabell on December 17, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
People who don't show their face on this forum don't deserve to responded to. This the internet. There's a lot of people on internet forums who aren't who they say they are.

I wouldn't talk to someone who had a burka on in RL so why should I respond here?

It's not that I would be rude or have some shunning policy against a burka wearer, I just physically wouldn't be capable of continuing a conversation.

As a sign of good faith, show your face. Especially if you are opinionated or argumentative. It's not illegal to be transgender. So there is zero excuse.
If this was a terrorist cell I'd understand, but it isn't.

Fionabell, there is no requirement in the TOS to post an actual likeness of yourself. How do we know the avatar pic is actually you? Yes, it is the Internet and not everyone tells the truth. If you personally don't want to respond to someone that doesn't post a picture of themselves, that's your call, but not to dictate to anyone else here on Susan's.

There are different reasons why people don't  post a avatar picture of themselves...stealth, working on their appearance, not ready, etc.

Please respect that. Me...I'm not ready to post my pic yet, one day I will, when I'm ready.

Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Annah on December 17, 2011, 10:14:27 PM
i never noticed this until now, but the girl in your avatar pic....i have that same exact skirt. Bought it on clearence for 14 dollars at hot topic. The front is a purple pleat and the sides are pleated but the back is just a basic black aline skirt. Fun skirt but never really cared for the front half pleated and the back half straight.

But anyways...here's a better view of it:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7160%2F6529192441_cecc18c3c5.jpg&hash=80f282bc8e030710af2d9e2db3aa16ef456ab95c)

Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: fionabell on December 17, 2011, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:54:18 PM
well ok i place it but anyway it's better my avatar, so i guess I am ok with the acts of courage for today...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimage.org%2Fe5h0l8v3r%2FFoto_del_17_12_11_alle_23_38_4.jpg&hash=90c3088a45ed17401e3b617eb832f316b5cf97c1) (http://postimage.org/image/e5h0l8v3r/)

no sign of Tsness whatsoever as you see, but much much beard

I cam see girl in your eyes hon. You are the real article.

Eyebrows hon. start plucking them gradually so no one can notice.

a start beard lasering!

Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: SandraJane on December 17, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: fionabell on December 17, 2011, 10:15:28 PM
I cam see girl in your eyes hon. You are the real article.

Eyebrows hon. start plucking them gradually so no one can notice.

a start beard lasering!



Fionabell,

Keep your opinions to yourself...it is not up to you who posts on this site and who does not.

2. Any attempts to stage protests, dispute the site policy, the TOS/rules, or actions of the staff; in the public areas of this site will not be tolerated and will result in your removal. If you have issues I suggest you contact susan@susans.org and not bring your issues into the public spaces on this website. For the proper way to raise issues see term #20 below.

6. You should not give out personal information which may lead to your being identified, or contacted in person, by email or other means. If you chose to do so, then you also accept the accompanying risks. Aliases and the use of alternate email addresses are encouraged.

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:

    Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
    Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Annah on December 17, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: SandraJane on December 17, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
How do we know the avatar pic is actually you?

LOL!

Anyways back to topic, I played around on pictrieve.com with this pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7004%2F6529227805_0cb2035c8a_b.jpg&hash=92b89d8d67c04d2baf8506112c7ddf9be454ed2a)

The results say I am a 23 year old female (96% female). Considering I am a 38 year old trans, I am happy with the results lol
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Amazon D on December 18, 2011, 05:27:19 AM
I learned about 3 yrs after finishing transitioning beauty is from within.. some of you know this already and haven't even started transitioning. You are Blessed for your insight and have that natural beauty within that can't be bought for no amount of $$$
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Siobhan on December 18, 2011, 05:48:10 AM
Quote from: Annah on December 17, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
LOL!

Anyways back to topic, I played around on pictrieve.com with this pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7004%2F6529227805_0cb2035c8a_b.jpg&hash=92b89d8d67c04d2baf8506112c7ddf9be454ed2a)

The results say I am a 23 year old female (96% female). Considering I am a 38 year old trans, I am happy with the results lol
You look great in that pic, actually would say its a nicer pic than your current avatar. Colours seem much 'warmer'.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Joandelynn on December 18, 2011, 05:57:22 AM
Quote from: Annah on December 17, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
Also, if someone says "I saw your pic on a trans site...omg you're trans!" Then I would reply, what were you doing on a trans site.

They weren't, they were on an image search engine that uses face recognition to find matching images. I know the technology isn't very good yet, but it will get better.

And if Fionabell only wants to talk to people that show their face, then I suppose I have to go looking for some random pictures from the internet to use as an avatar. I have actually already seen this on other forums where people posted images of themselves that later turned out to be not really them.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: madirocks on December 18, 2011, 06:05:46 AM
I haven't transitioned yet. I probably will post a couple of photos when I do, elsewhere on Susuan's, but I doubt any rl photos will be an avatar. I like my avatar to be more of a representation of my interests, over how I look.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 06:55:55 AM
I was told the other day that some picciecollector has got a pix of mine - some 'friend' swapped me? - and posted it on a website.
I don't mind as pic shows me slim and fashionable dressed while the picciecollector is potbellied CD slob...he probly has a magic mirror.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Jen61 on December 18, 2011, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
get over that, it was 2 months ago and I could give a rats what you think.

Replay # 19 from Mahsa
QuoteActually the two members who smite me more than anything are faceless. 90% of the smites come from two members and nothing more.

Hummm! How many times I have smite you ?
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Dana_H on December 19, 2011, 12:32:37 AM
Some of us cannot afford to be outed in a facial recognition search. Imagine working around dozens of physically aggressive types who are already known to be transphobic and one of them decides to do a search on your face just to see if anything "amusing" turns up (which has happened)...and they find your before/after photos on Susan's!    :o

When I can get a better (more normal) job than my current one, (or when my little home business becomes self-supporting and can pay me a salary) I'll *consider* posting my face. Not until then. That's also why I tend to be vague or evasive on here about certain aspects of my personal life.

Besides, how can you really be sure that the real photos on here actually belong to the person who posts them?
I've seen someone who uses Jennifer Aniston as an avatar, but I somehow suspect that person isn't really her.
(If it is really her, that's fine too. ;) )

Different people have different reasons for wanting or not wanting to post their photos on here. It shouldn't need to be justified either way.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: tekla on December 19, 2011, 01:44:51 AM
I can assure you that that is me in those photos.  Or I would have picked someone much better looking.
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: V M on December 19, 2011, 02:22:57 AM
I can assure you that that is me in those photos.

You must submit at least two butt hair samples for verification  >:-)
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: fionabell on December 19, 2011, 02:43:16 AM
Quote from: SandraJane on December 17, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
Fionabell,

Keep your opinions to yourself...it is not up to you who posts on this site and who does not.
I have not tried to dictate who should post here and who should not, least of all in the post you are replying to.

I merely complemented and encouraged her towards transition. Are you insinuating that I was being non-geniune?
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2. Any attempts to stage protests, dispute the site policy, the TOS/rules, or actions of the staff; in the public areas of this site will not be tolerated and will result in your removal. If you have issues I suggest you contact susan@susans.org and not bring your issues into the public spaces on this website. For the proper way to raise issues see term #20 below.
you've just made it public
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6. You should not give out personal information which may lead to your being identified, or contacted in person, by email or other means. If you chose to do so, then you also accept the accompanying risks. Aliases and the use of alternate email addresses are encouraged.
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10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:

    Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
    Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others [/i]
The only person who's been excluded is me. Everybody else states their opinion but you've just excluded me from that.

I suppose they'll ban me now. Good bye everone :)
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: fionabell on December 19, 2011, 02:45:54 AM
Quote from: Joandelynn on December 18, 2011, 05:57:22 AM
They weren't, they were on an image search engine that uses face recognition to find matching images. I know the technology isn't very good yet, but it will get better.

And if Fionabell only wants to talk to people that show their face, then I suppose I have to go looking for some random pictures from the internet to use as an avatar. I have actually already seen this on other forums where people posted images of themselves that later turned out to be not really them.
I don't care what you do. What gave you that impression?
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: noeleena on December 19, 2011, 02:50:47 AM
Hi,

For the last 4. 1 / 2 years  my pics have been shown world wide. I 'v been in front of over 3 Millon people & talked to 100's of people in groups as well.   T V,  papers & the net. not including the 1000's of others who see me . so i have no probs at all

When your too well known where do  you hide,  plus being on over 60 forums.  same name & pic or avatar .
& my earlyer photos of my self are not very different form how you see my pic or if you talked with me in the street , what you see  & is who i am.

Now remember not all of us can do what i have done or been where i go. so there is a difference. haveing a high profile is something for those of  us who can do that, & not every one can or will.

...noeleena...
Title: Re: Why won't many of you show your faces?
Post by: Cindy on December 19, 2011, 02:58:21 AM
I'm locking this thread.

Cindy James
Global Moderator