I tried getting over it but yesterday it was all I can think about. I am trying to accept my 5'4 height with a lot of difficulties. I don't want limb lengthening, the idea of that scares me too much. Though at one point I was so depressed I didn't care if it did scare me. I am still looking at HGH hormones but just feeling like nothing but a slap in the face after I'm always told they won't do anything for me because I'm done growing already. Now I'm looking at elevator shoes but my only concern with these are taking the shoes off when at a friend's house or family's house and everyone will definitely notice I'm not that tall. I suppose there's nothing I can do about that? :( Also I was thinking if I work out and get really bulky will that at least make me appear taller? Seriously it just keeps bringing down my confidence no matter how hard I try not to think about it :(
i'm also 5'4... it's weird though, because in my head i'm a lot taller, i feel a lot taller. like you, i've considered elevator shoes, but again, i know people would eventually notice... can't keep em on all the time. my ideal height is around 5'10. people have told me i appear taller than 5'4 though. i think a lot of it has to do with how one holds oneself, which is a confidence thing. i know tall people who are self-conscious and slouch and shrink, and shorter people who give the impression of being a lot taller, simply because they're so assertive. where my dysphoria with it comes in is wishing i was taller so that i can cuddle someone better standing up... lol.
@schism ive heard that too lol. But I still am kind of having a hard time with being small unfortunately.
I know lots of short guys. They're awesome. ;D
@Road to Trista. Ah. Why thankyou ;D But yeah I know a lot of short guys too. My dad's girlfriend's brother being no more than at the most 5'0 and he owns his own business, has a wife, a son and a daughter. I look to him for inspiration but I still have bad days where I can't see past my small size at all. :(
Schism pretty much nailed it on the head. I am also 5'4 and I used to hate a lot but now the height dysphoria is a bit more tolerable. Confidence is the key. If you are still have a hard time trying to gain confidence from your height I suggest this website of guys who are short.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/page/2 (//http:///page/2)
What personally helped me have lower height dysphoria was having the mentality of an MMA fighter and the mindset that I may be short but I could probably still kick some behind if I needed to.
@Malachite thanks i am already aware of that site tho :)
No problem-if all else fails you could go with the "well it could be worse" attitude. Like Trista said short guys are awesome!
thanks for the link to that blog, it's great.
I understand how you feel. When I was in my early teens and I had thought about being transgendered, I believed it was pointless because no woman would want to be with a short man. How foolish I was. And just so you know, I'm 5' 3" at my tallest (Depends on doc) But yeah, I have found the most amazing woman on this earth. And she is at least 4 inchest taller than me. She doesn't care and neither do I. When I pick her up in my arms, height doesn't mean anything. Or when we are laying in bed. I know that it must cause bad dysphoria. But slowly learn to love yourself for EVERY bit of you. Because at the end of the day, that is all that will matter. :)
I'm shorter than you and I pass to people who used to know me in the past.
They don't even recognize me anymore.
Dude, I know it sucks being short, but there's nothing you can do about it. That's your lot in life. If there's nothing you can do to change something, you're wasting time and resources beating yourself up over it. I don't intend to diminish your feelings at all, but you post this thread so often that it's clear you need to start accepting yourself for what you look like and who you are.
I'm five feet tall and it sure bothers me a lot sometimes. I hate having to stand on my toes to reach something that most people can just reach out and grab, and I feel puny compared to most people I encounter on a day to day basis.
But here's the secret: just about everybody, cis and trans alike, has at least one thing they hate about their bodies. And a great deal of the time, it's something they can't really help. And an even greater deal of the time, it's something that matters zero to the strangers, friends, and acquaintances in their lives. We are our own worst critics.
Short men exist, it's not as if we're doomed to be pegged as assigned female at birth for the rest of our lives just because we aren't six feet tall. I guarantee that if you go out anywhere in public with a decent amount of people you will find men shorter or the same height as you, but you wouldn't question their maleness. Similarly, you'd be surprised at how tall some women can be, much taller than the "average" or expected height, but they're still clearly women.
So reassure yourself of these things, and realize that your height is not what limits you in any way, it's your personality, how you relate to others and how you deal with problems in life. I just saw a trans guy on Youtube who might even be smaller than me and he looks amazing. I would love to look like him, height and all. You just have to make do with what you've got, and realize that even if it is a little out of the ordinary, so what, you're still a human being and that's what matters the most, THAT is why you deserve respect. Not because of some arbitrary number that says that's how tall "normal" guys should be.
EDIT: What really helps me is watching movies with short male actors. You could enjoy, say, The Breakfast Club or Back to the Future; Emilio Estevez and Michael J. Fox are your height, for example. It helps to watch films which feature short actors in kickass roles. It's good to feel like you can relate to others.
I think of your height dysphoria literally every time I walk off the train to campus. Out of like a hundred kids, I see a TON of dudes who are 5'4" (my height exactly). And more who are just a wee bit taller. You should move here. :)
I felt bad about my height for a long time until eventually someone told me I was about 5"6. I recently went off to college and made friends with two brothers, cis males, that are 5"5. We lament about being short but honestly there are plenty of short people. It's unfortunate but it's not something that needs to control your life. Also, I'd personally say that bulking up (in an exaggerated manner) might emphasise your height but that's just my opinion.
Sounds like you caught the return bus I took.
As a 6'2" transwoman I worried about sticking out like the proverbial sore thumb, but when i started watching a lot of women's sports on TV realised I wasn't that unusual. Lots of models are tall too.
For guys, 5'4" isn't all that short really. Especially if you workout and put on a bit of upper body bulk, you will look quite impressive. Having self-confidence helps negate any percieved lack of height, it seems to make peoople more impressive.
When he was an actor, Tom Cruise >:-) married Nicole Kidman, and she was a good 6 inches or more taller than him. Maybe looking to actors like Vin Diesel , Cruise, Fox and others for inspiration will be a good start. Other role models from the real world will appear as time goes on.
Karen.
I'm gonna hope that getting some muscle on me will help me appear at least two inches taller.
@Caseyyy .... 0.0 where do u live? :P
5'4" isn't short. Average height for men until recently was 5'7", so there must be plenty of shorter guys out there. As for hollywood stars, they've always been short. Cruise is small, as is Brad Pitt. Sylvester Stallone in well below 6 foot and Arnie is no man mountain. When Alan Ladd was around they often made his leading actresses stand in a trench. Watch a lot of films and you will see that the leading man is often shot from a low angle to make him look taller.
Repeat 5'4" is not short.
Quote from: Pippa on January 31, 2012, 06:13:30 PM
5'4" isn't short. Average height for men until recently was 5'7", so there must be plenty of shorter guys out there. As for hollywood stars, they've always been short. Cruise is small, as is Brad Pitt. Sylvester Stallone in well below 6 foot and Arnie is no man mountain. When Alan Ladd was around they often made his leading actresses stand in a trench. Watch a lot of films and you will see that the leading man is often shot from a low angle to make him look taller.
Repeat 5'4" is not short.
You just called Tom Cruise (5'7") and Brad Pitt (5'11") small, so it is pretty obvious you know that 5'4" is short.
There's optimism, and then there's pretending. ;)
The real important point is that there's nothing wrong with being short. People come in all sizes and all that.
Vegeta from DBZ was 5'3. Yeah it came from an anime show but he's still bad-a reguardless.
Quote from: Cody Jensen on January 30, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
Also I was thinking if I work out and get really bulky will that at least make me appear taller?
Yes if you put on some muscle it'll help a lot! There's no way to change your height so don't stress about that, but you can get bigger. I'm 5'5 and I've accepted that, but I've been trying to bulk up so I don't look so tiny. It's been working
Quote from: Malachite on January 31, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
Vegeta from DBZ was 5'3. Yeah it came from an anime show but he's still bad-a reguardless.
lmao brilliant. vegeta is the man.
Quote from: Cody Jensen on January 30, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
I tried getting over it but yesterday it was all I can think about. I am trying to accept my 5'4 height with a lot of difficulties. I don't want limb lengthening, the idea of that scares me too much. Though at one point I was so depressed I didn't care if it did scare me. I am still looking at HGH hormones but just feeling like nothing but a slap in the face after I'm always told they won't do anything for me because I'm done growing already. Now I'm looking at elevator shoes but my only concern with these are taking the shoes off when at a friend's house or family's house and everyone will definitely notice I'm not that tall. I suppose there's nothing I can do about that? :( Also I was thinking if I work out and get really bulky will that at least make me appear taller? Seriously it just keeps bringing down my confidence no matter how hard I try not to think about it :(
Try being 5'1 haha! I know lots of small guys though so don't let it get to you. I have a cis-male friend who's an inch or two shorter than me. I feel insecure about my height too and I used to consider limb lenghtening and be really down about my height but I notice a lot of men in public my height/only a inch or two taller than me so I'm really not bothered anymore. My great grandad was only 5'2 and that wasn't due to ageing, he was that height almost his whole life.
But putting on a bit of muscle will help you. In my opinion all the elevator shoes look super ugly, you could try these shoe inserts that make you taller by about an inch though, you can get them quite cheap on ebay or amazon.
I'm short for a guy, but still close at 5'7''. I'm the same height as my father, though, so I feel better knowing that. In fact, thinking about my father always makes me feel better. He's the same height as me, he has a round face with chubby cheeks like me, and my arms are almost as hairy as his. By myself sometimes I feel like those qualities (besides the arms) make me more female, but when I think about my dad they just make me feel like his biological son. Whenever I'm with him I feel like I pass even more than normal because I just look so much like him.
Lots of cis-guys have height disphoria too, fwiw. I still say that I (5'7) would take the tall pills if they had such a thing with no substantial side effects until I was 6'4, but I'm super greedy. :) That said, I have grown to appreciate a number of things about not being particularly tall.
Shorter people tend to live substantially longer on average. May have something to do with getting more mileage out of a heart that doesn't have to fight gravity quite as hard.
It's way easier to find clothes that fit.
It's easier to get comfortable on most furniture.
It's easier to get into smaller spaces.
Seems to help in a number of sports like gymnastics, bodybuilding, and soccer. You literally do not fall over as easily when you have a lower center of gravity!
Tend to appear younger than we actually are for a good chunk of our lives.
Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'd love to hear more.
Quote from: Superrad on January 31, 2012, 12:12:13 AM
Also, I'd personally say that bulking up (in an exaggerated manner) might emphasise your height but that's just my opinion.
I think that's a very real possible downside. On the other hand, I've also heard from folks into body-building that shorter guys have better symmetry (??). I've also heard that from my ex who had a preference for shorter guys. I think there may be something to that because one thing I've always noticed is that shorter guys look better naked than taller guys. Something about really tall guys is they
can look kind of stretched out like taffy and disproportionate. I guess it depends on the extent to which they had a rapid and ungainly growth spurt.
Mind you, I still like tall guys too. The fact is that there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I still find myself a little fascinated by and initially attracted to tall guys, perhaps because I'm not very tall myself and there is a little bit of the psychology of being attracted to that which you're lacking. However, my tastes have broadened out quite a bit as I've gotten older and I'm now almost just a fascinated by and attracted to guys that are smallish compared to me. I find that brings out my more dominant tendencies whereas tall guys tend to trigger my more submissive tendencies, and frequently that's not a good thing. Turns out height and tendencies for dominant or submissive behavior are not as correlated as many seem to think. BTW, I'm not just referring to sex, but... yeah, that too. :)
my cismale younger brother is 5'4" he isnt growing anymore either so dont to feel bad. also something that can help is puberty blockers especially if your under 18 because your limbs can grow more if you block your bodies production of hormones because at the end of puberty your bones fuse to your growth plates and cant grow lengthwise anymore.
I am 19 so sadly I don't think hgh will work on me. Thanks for the support everyone and I am excited to get that muscle on me.
Quote from: Cody Jensen on January 30, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
I tried getting over it but yesterday it was all I can think about. I am trying to accept my 5'4 height with a lot of difficulties. I don't want limb lengthening, the idea of that scares me too much. Though at one point I was so depressed I didn't care if it did scare me. I am still looking at HGH hormones but just feeling like nothing but a slap in the face after I'm always told they won't do anything for me because I'm done growing already. Now I'm looking at elevator shoes but my only concern with these are taking the shoes off when at a friend's house or family's house and everyone will definitely notice I'm not that tall. I suppose there's nothing I can do about that? :( Also I was thinking if I work out and get really bulky will that at least make me appear taller? Seriously it just keeps bringing down my confidence no matter how hard I try not to think about it :(
god I wish I was 5'4". I'm MtF.
Unofrtunately my height is 6'3" and I feel very depressed about it... it's what's stopping me from transitioning. I wish we could switch our bodies somehow...brain transplant maybe?
I use humor. But I can't say I am not bothered by it being 5'1". I am shorter than most women. I tell people I am vertically challenged.
--Jay
Quote from: Cody Jensen on January 30, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
Also I was thinking if I work out and get really bulky will that at least make me appear taller?
In a sense, yeah it will. Not so much physically, obviously, but like others have said, more indirectly with regards to how you feel about yourself changing how you carry and project who you are and all that counts for a lot. I may be slightly better off at 5'8", but whenever I've jokingly called myself the short dude around friends or work, people are quick to stand next to me and only then are they like, "Oh yeah! You are a small fry aren't ya?!" in a jokey way. Sometimes even I don't realise how short I am until they do that, and 2 of my coworkers are actually shorter than me - score! My brother is 6'4" and honestly, until I see pics of the two of us I never think there's that much of a height difference when we're together. So confidence and how you hold yourself can work wonders.
Malachite's MMA fighter mentality example is a great way to look at it. If you ever look at MMA stats for lower weight divisions, there's plenty amazing fighters around 5'5" give or take. I saw this picture lately of Urijah Faber (5'6") and Shaq:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fheadblitz.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2Fshaq-faber.jpg&hash=c78145440c93a1672c696ac9e86d334857ad6c0a)
He posts tons of pics on Twitter and when he's in the gym he just looks like a regular size guy around people either his height or slightly taller or smaller. Pics taken more in the outside word is when you notice that he's shorter than many others. But here he is all smiles next to Shaq joking about being small.
And here's Charlie Valencia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Valencia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Valencia). That dude is 5'3" and fought in the WEC and a UFC fight.
As much as it may seem like an over compensating thing, I can speak highly of the confidence I've gained from martial arts experience. If you're in any way interested in things like that, I'd recommend doing a martial art of some kind. I'd never start a physical fight, ever, but just knowing if something went down that I have the confidence and training to have a shot in a fight, even if outmatched size wise, it's helped with my confidence and how I hold myself. Also, another thing that helps there is that you can gain the confidence without having to super bulk up. In martial arts speed tends to trump mass so most martial artists tend to be toned more than buff. Sometimes being too bulky can go the opposite way for shorter guys and make them look a little short and stalky, accentuating a smaller head for example. But toned with a confidence to hold yourself high can go a long way. So I wouldn't say you have to do a major amount of work tbh.
I'd have a 2 inch height advantage on Urijah Faber, and yet I'd bet I'd feel 4 feet tall against a guy like that in a match!
Sorry if this is out of place, and even unhelpful. As a MtF I know what physical dysphoria means.
As a woman I would date a guy no matter what his height or build was. It is his personality, his 'manliness', his respect for me, his love of life, his joy of life and his demeanor.
A six foot jerk is a six foot of jerk. A 5 foot man who knows how to be a man is awesome.
Being a man is nothing to do with physical size. Many of the most important men in history were vertically challenged.
But they were men.
They demanded respect. Not because of their body shape, but because of their manliness, their confidence, humour, their talk, their ---being a man.
I and I would suggest most women, would be proud to walk hand in hand with a physically small man than we would be with a large guy who was so self centered on their maleness than their concern for me.
Sorry but I'm just a woman who likes men.
There are not many around. There are lots of jerks though!!
Cindy
Even though I'm 5'4 my height does bother me alot I really wish I was average, Girls really don't like short guys either, unless their shorter than, Especially with the Cis girls who are taller than me
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 12:06:29 PM
Even though I'm 5'4 my height does bother me alot I really wish I was average, Girls really don't like short guys either, unless their shorter than, Especially with the Cis girls who are taller than me
I'm 5'1", and at a guess my girlfriend is 5'6". I'm noticeably shorter than her anyway. It doesn't bother her at all. If a girl is willing to discount someone as a potential partner just because of their height then you could probably do better than them anyway.
A lot of women, particularly girls, joke about it, because it's not their ideal idea of someone who is attractive, but in reality when it comes down to loving someone minor things like height doesn't matter any more.
Quote from: AlexanderC on November 17, 2013, 12:29:16 PM
I'm 5'1", and at a guess my girlfriend is 5'6". I'm noticeably shorter than her anyway. It doesn't bother her at all. If a girl is willing to discount someone as a potential partner just because of their height then you could probably do better than them anyway.
A lot of women, particularly girls, joke about it, because it's not their ideal idea of someone who is attractive, but in reality when it comes down to loving someone minor things like height doesn't matter any more.
Yea but its unattractive in my oppinion for a woman to be taller than a man, I find women who are taller than me intimidating, Unless its like in inch or so but I don't think I could date a woman who's taller than me not to be rude
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Yea but its unattractive in my oppinion for a woman to be taller than a man, I find women who are taller than me intimidating, Unless its like in inch or so but I don't think I could date a woman who's taller than me not to be rude
You are awfully young to have all these opinions about things that seem, I hate to say this buddy, old-fashioned and restrictive. I thought we got rid of all those attitudes back in the 60s or something. I'm glad I don't have to live to your rules. The times they are a-changin'. Bob Dylan 1964.
--Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on November 17, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
You are awfully young to have all these opinions about things that seem, I hate to say this buddy, old-fashioned and restrictive. I thought we got rid of all those attitudes back in the 60s or something. I'm glad I don't have to live to your rules. The times they are a-changin'. Bob Dylan 1964.
--Jay
Yea... Not that young If you look at how fast time is going Ill be an adult here soon, What's wrong with my oppinion, I just don't wanna date a woman whoes taller than me call me shallow or whatever you want
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 02:27:10 PM
Yea... Not that young If you look at how fast time is going Ill be an adult here soon, What's wrong with my oppinion, I just don't wanna date a woman whoes taller than me call me shallow or whatever you want
To be honest I don't think it's shallow at all. Nothing is wrong with your opinion. Some people are attracted to certain physical traits. Personally, I would feel intimidated too if I dated a woman that was taller than me....initially. However, if I fell in love with a woman that was taller than me, I wouldn't write her off because of that. I'd try work through my insecurities and if the lady is worth it, she wouldn't think any less of me.
When we die, most of us will be near the same height laying on our backs or cremated anyways.
Quote from: Malachite on November 17, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
To be honest I don't think it's shallow at all. Personally, I would feel intimidated too if I dated a woman that was taller than me....initially. However, if I fell in love with a woman that was taller than me, I wouldn't write her off because of that. I'd try work through my insecurities and of the lady is worth it, she wouldn't think any less of me.
When we die, most of us will be near the same height laying on our backs or cremated anyways.
Thank You it was't to offend anyone
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 02:27:10 PM
Yea... Not that young If you look at how fast time is going Ill be an adult here soon, What's wrong with my oppinion, I just don't wanna date a woman whoes taller than me call me shallow or whatever you want
I don't think this is shallow either, it's basic attraction. If she happens to be a girl that's perfect for you in any other way you might still go for her though :p Nah, we can be attracted to whatever we are attracted too.
Personally I don't really have a problem with my height (5'5'' i think 1.67 metres) I'm not tiny but I'm not average for a guy either. My not caring might have to do with the fact that i find height differences attractive :) Otherwise I know plenty of girls that like the cute short guy type so ... Also what I do have is that I notice other (cis)guys height and I've noticed a lot of attractive guys that happen to be shorter or my size. I think you can make up for your size with charisma too, you seem taller if you stand tall :)
Quote from: NathanielM on November 17, 2013, 03:00:47 PM
I don't think this is shallow either, it's basic attraction. If she happens to be a girl that's perfect for you in any other way you might still go for her though :p Nah, we can be attracted to whatever we are attracted too.
Personally I don't really have a problem with my height (5'5'' i think 1.67 metres) I'm not tiny but I'm not average for a guy either. My not caring might have to do with the fact that i find height differences attractive :) Otherwise I know plenty of girls that like the cute short guy type so ... Also what I do have is that I notice other (cis)guys height and I've noticed a lot of attractive guys that happen to be shorter or my size. I think you can make up for your size with charisma too, you seem taller if you stand tall :)
That'ts true that's why I also always try to hold my head up when walking while standing tall
Another think that helps me is that I'm the same size as Harry Potter! Who's gonna tell me that's too short :)
Quote from: NathanielM on November 17, 2013, 03:13:52 PM
Another think that helps me is that I'm the same size as Harry Potter! Who's gonna tell me that's too short :)
Lol that's true
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 02:27:10 PM
Yea... Not that young If you look at how fast time is going Ill be an adult here soon, What's wrong with my oppinion, I just don't wanna date a woman whoes taller than me call me shallow or whatever you want
Old fashioned, Brandon, not shallow. I understand re: attraction and intimidation, but love is blind and all that. And you just might be overlooking a wonderful person, human being with whom you might share a lot of interests and so on. Plus if you are quite short (I mean shorter than many women) you will limit the number of potential gfs and very fun people you could be with. I'm 5'1" and if I limited myself to someone say 5'3" or something, that wouldn't be very many people I could potential enjoy.
--Jay
I wasn't calling you shallow either, I just have a dislike of people making blanket statements on here when they're not true, and can lead to other people feeling more troubled by their situation than they were before. Your opinion is yours, and we all know we can't change that, but if you're sharing it, tell people it's only your opinion. It's the same thing when people say that gay men will never be interested in us, theres plenty of people who have found otherwise. Pessimistic blanket statements do no one any good, especially on a support forum.
Quote from: AlexanderC on November 17, 2013, 05:54:34 PM
I wasn't calling you shallow either, I just have a dislike of people making blanket statements on here when they're not true, and can lead to other people feeling more troubled by their situation than they were before. Your opinion is yours, and we all know we can't change that, but if you're sharing it, tell people it's only your opinion. It's the same thing when people say that gay men will never be interested in us, theres plenty of people who have found otherwise. Pessimistic blanket statements do no one any good, especially on a support forum.
True! I doesn't bother me, but some people take these things seriously. He can do what he wants, obviously. But happy to have my gf who is 5'10" as she's awesome. Might wish that I could reverse our sizes. Since she's a trans woman, I'm sure she has many problems with her height.
--Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on November 17, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
Old fashioned, Brandon, not shallow. I understand re: attraction and intimidation, but love is blind and all that. And you just might be overlooking a wonderful person, human being with whom you might share a lot of interests and so on. Plus if you are quite short (I mean shorter than many women) you will limit the number of potential gfs and very fun people you could be with. I'm 5'1" and if I limited myself to someone say 5'3" or something, that wouldn't be very many people I could potential enjoy.
--Jay
I wouldn't call it limiting myself because most women are fairely short, I mean I feel very intimidated by taller women the ones Ive been around are shorter than me though but I understand what your saying but everyone has a preference
Quote from: AlexanderC on November 17, 2013, 05:54:34 PM
I wasn't calling you shallow either, I just have a dislike of people making blanket statements on here when they're not true, and can lead to other people feeling more troubled by their situation than they were before. Your opinion is yours, and we all know we can't change that, but if you're sharing it, tell people it's only your opinion. It's the same thing when people say that gay men will never be interested in us, theres plenty of people who have found otherwise. Pessimistic blanket statements do no one any good, especially on a support forum.
Well I mean everyone has a preference I dislike my height just as much as the next guy, In my case straight women, But even cismen are intimidated by it, Attractions are Attractions thats how I see,
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Well I mean everyone has a preference I dislike my height just as much as the next guy, In my case straight women, But even cismen are intimidated by it, Attractions are Attractions thats how I see,
That way of putting it makes a lot more sense. My comments were about when you said basically that it doesn't look good.
--Jay
Quote from: Brandon on November 17, 2013, 06:34:50 PM
I wouldn't call it limiting myself because most women are fairely short, I mean I feel very intimidated by taller women the ones Ive been around are shorter than me though but I understand what your saying but everyone has a preference
WHO THE HECK told you that most woman are fairly short. Woman just like men come in all kinds of shapes sizes . The average height of Females from the Netherlands is 5"7 which is higher then the average height then males in 25 other countries. I understand that everyone has their own opinions and I respect that but please think before you make your blanket statements about people and learn that there are more then a billion people all over the world. You can't speak for anyone but yourself so please stop.
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 19, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
WHO THE HECK told you that most woman are fairly short. Woman just like men come in all kinds of shapes sizes . The average height of Females from the Netherlands is 5"7 which is higher then the average height then males in 25 other countries. I understand that everyone has their own opinions and I respect that but please think before you make your blanket statements about people and learn that there are more then a billion people all over the world. You can't speak for anyone but yourself so please stop.
Most of the women Ive been around, Don't assume please
Quote from: Brandon on November 19, 2013, 10:54:34 PM
Most of the women Ive been around, Don't assume please
I'm not assuming anything . That's why I said THINK before you post. You said "I wouldn't call it limiting myself because most women are fairely short"
Think before you post please.
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 19, 2013, 11:28:47 PM
I'm not assuming anything . That's why I said THINK before you post. You said "I wouldn't call it limiting myself because most women are fairely short"
Think before you post please.
Again I said the women I have been around are short,
Most women I'm around in the UK outside of my family aren't short.
I did have a lecturer for the past two days who was probably at most, an inch taller than me. He definitely had a bad case wee man syndrome but there was no doubting that he was male.
I am shorter than a lot of gals I know. Of course not than most trans gals, but that stands to reason.
--Jay
Again I'm intimidated by it honestly but if you in that situation then fine I'm taller than most Of my friends who are girls
Quote from: Brandon on November 20, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
Again I'm intimidated by it honestly but if you in that situation then fine I'm taller than most Of my friends who are girls
Brandon - I sent you private message three months ago about your writing and you dismissed it, called me 'rude' and wrote (and I do quote) "Um you do realize I'm on my phone and sometimes I might just use he wrong their, When I'm writing on paper it's different I do know how to spell".
Now, I would like to point out that the post above is quite difficult to understand. While you might think it's fine, you are basically asking everyone who reads your post to spend extra time decoding it because you do not choose to use punctuation. Consider the following:
I am helping my uncle jack off a horse.
I am helping my uncle, Jack, off a horse.
I think there are a ton of funny examples like this online. Something about a catastrophe vs a
cat ass trophy.
Here are some helpful tips. I mean this with genuine and heartfelt kindness. I was an English teacher for 7 years. No, my grammar/spelling/punctuation is not always perfect, but I do make it a point to edit my posts when I notice my laziness has made it difficult to understand.
They're - They are. I see the lions. They're going to eat my face if I am not careful.
Their - Plural possession. Those two girls are my friends, and their father is with them.
There - Shows location (sometimes an abstract location) There are many ways to be eaten by a lion.
You - Refers to a person. You need find a new place to live.
You're - You are - You're a good friend.
Your - shows possession - That is your opinion.
I would also suggest checking out some rules about comma usage. Those are admittedly tricky. ;)
If other people think I am being a jerk, let me reiterate that I sent a private message to brandon back when he started posting here, and his response was dismissive. I would rather one of us help him out rather than some one online who will tear his argument apart by attacking his lack of English mechanics.