I do trust Susan's. Problem is, there is someone on here with bad intentions. In the private section of FTM, I saw a few postings of before and after pictures. And someone named xxxxx or something along those lines was stealing pictures from here and posting them on their blog.
I checked their website and there are more pictures. I don't know where they are getting them from but if you think you aren't safe if someone were to see the pictures you posted of you before or now, please be careful.
Here's the website.
Sorry, deleted as per the Forum Admin's instruction - V M
This person is really sick
Yes, this person is sick and understandably not allowed on this site - V M
I think those were taken from the site before that post was moved to the private forum. They should be safer now, but yeah, some people just suck. :-\
Yeah that person is sick. I just hope that people can see that there is an idiot like this among us. And to be careful
Be careful of the pictures you post on here...
FIFY
I worry about that when posting pics that people will copy them and do... I don't know with them, ya know?
Stay Clear - This is Crazy Talk
Of course, the way to avoid any of that crap in the first place is not to be ashamed of any part of your life. That's the point of pride crap - has nothing to do with being proud, it has everything to do with not living in fear.
Meh she's been doing that for the longest. I can't believe she even has the guts to post her videos on a Youtube account. Nevertheless it's always a good thing to be careful of what you post. People like her really need to get a life. If she hates it so much then why even discuss it? That would be like me hating lemon pie and blogging about the evils of lemon pie and why not to eat it. It doesn't make sense and it's a waste of time. I seriously thinks she needs therapy because she is a lunatic.
Also if she is sooooo secure in herself as a butch why is her name xxxxx? Lol
Wow, creepy! Looks like someone's obsessed...posting others' pictures like that, especially more private ones, is really uncalled for. I guess it's best to not post anything even on locked forums if you don't want to risk it.
I honestly wonder what her argument on transwomen is? Guess it doesn't matter, when they're that deluded.
I can't be the only one who was a bit amused/disturbed by Dirt's self-description as an "Intelligent Butch Lesbian" (emphasis mine) at the bottom of the page...
(*edit because 'Birt' ::))
Quote from: tekla on February 13, 2012, 10:02:39 PM
Stay Clear - This is Crazy Talk
Of course, the way to avoid any of that crap in the first place is not to be ashamed of any part of your life. That's the point of pride crap - has nothing to do with being proud, it has everything to do with not living in fear.
I understand what you are saying but everyone has a right to their privacy. But for some people there truly is an element of needing to remain safe. It isn't about being "ashamed". I posted this for those who didn't know about her. People have a freedom to do whatever they want. I personally don't want my picture on that crazy woman's site.
but everyone has a right to their privacy
True, but such rights are not absolute. You first must (according to the courts) have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the first place. Nobody on the web has such expectations - or more correctly - such expectations on the web are not reasonable. I was told long ago: Anything you do on the web is as easy to track by those who know how as a single set of footprints across a field in new snow, and information is about as private as spray painting it in 10 foot high letters in neon orange on the side of your local Wall Mart. Still have not seen anything that would dispute that.
Yeah, unfortunately this is the nature of the beast that is the Internet. I think it's still in the experimental stage where people are no aware of the long-term ramifications and that anything you put on it is preserved essentially forever. I imagine in another generation or two, people will be behaving differently because we'll have experimented and figured out what to do or not to do.
It just bugs me that this women attempts to speak on behalf of EVERYONE in such a sweeping manner. Talk about projection.
Quote from: tekla on February 13, 2012, 10:41:12 PM
but everyone has a right to their privacy
True, but such rights are not absolute. You first must (according to the courts) have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the first place. Nobody on the web has such expectations - or more correctly - such expectations on the web are not reasonable. I was told long ago: Anything you do on the web is as easy to track by those who know how as a single set of footprints across a field in new snow, and information is about as private as spray painting it in 10 foot high letters in neon orange on the side of your local Wall Mart. Still have not seen anything that would dispute that.
Yes I agree everything we do online is forever there. HOWEVER, we don't all put EXTREMELY personal information (where we live, our school, etc.) out there for others to track us down. Look, I'm not really trying to argue with you. But I didn't know that this idiot was taking pictures from here, youtube, and doing what she's doing. And maybe someone else who didn't know, might want to reconsider putting up their picture, etc on here or anywhere else. I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm just sharing this information.
Ew don't link to her website, it boosts her ranking in google when you do that.
is old news to me, but you did well to bring this up again, Nick - there are noobs who may not have been aware. I am personally not threatened by her or her use of my pics, but not everyone may feel the same.
I knew about her too but yeah, it's good to let people know who may not have. She be messed up.
Cheers for the heads up Nick.
it's a shame some people are so self-obsessed and narrow minded that they have to project their insecurities in such a damaging way. this woman is clearly threatened by the trans community and isn't secure enough in her own reality that she has to try to force it on everyone else. i don't really care if my pictures are picked up by her or anyone else. they're just images. when putting images on the internet one has to be prepared for the possibility that someone may use them for something untoward. we choose to put them into a public domain. privacy on the internet is a myth.
Last year, I had a guy who stole my pics from another website and then used them...pretending that my pics were really him. He then went to yahoo answers! and on another transwebsite with my pics and proceeded to have cyber sex with a lot of ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s. I think his name was PJ or something like that.
Anyways, I filed a police report. He was never formally charged but he got the sh*t scared of him when the police contacted him. An Investigator told me about tineye.com. Its a reverse image site. You can take your pictures and and use that website to search and see if your pics pop up anywhere else. The site is still growing but they have over 2.5 billion images in their search engine and its growing everyday. I would recommend using it
Quote from: Annah on February 14, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
Last year, I had a guy who stole my pics from another website and then used them...pretending that my pics were really him. He then went to yahoo answers! and on another transwebsite with my pics and proceeded to have cyber sex with a lot of ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s. I think his name was PJ or something like that.
Anyways, I filed a police report. He was never formally charged but he got the sh*t scared of him when the police contacted him. An Investigator told me about tineye.com. Its a reverse image site. You can take your pictures and and use that website to search and see if your pics pop up anywhere else. The site is still growing but they have over 2.5 billion images in their search engine and its growing everyday. I would recommend using it
God people have such issues. Thanks for the site!
The link is now gone, so I do not know who this "Highly intelligent Butch-Lesbian" is, but I understand that she have lifted pics from this board, the FTM-section, and uploaded them on her site, yes?
In what purpous hase she done so? Is she disrespecting the persons on the pics, or is she flattering them or is she just collecting them without saying why?
Unfortunately, anyone that posts a pic on the Web must realize that the pic is now for anyone to use, and if you do not want to risk that, then don't post it.
I do very well understand the frustration that someone just grabs a pic like that, but your are responsible aswell, as an uploader, however if you want to be anonymous, then stay anonymous.
The only circumstances that you can actually do something if someone have used your pic, is if the person either claims to be you, or, if the person is disrespecting the pic. However, in both cases you can only contact the board/s in question that the kook is a member of, you cannot do anything legally about it unless the nature of the action is very serious.
By the way, I personally used a members Pic just the other day in one of the Pass-threads. I had taken the pic from another thread here on Susan's, the Before and after-thread, and uploaded the pic in one of the Pass-threads as an example of how stunningly beautiful the girl in the pic turned out after her FFS(I used it to disprove some of the members claims that FFS is pointless).
All of the sudden, one of the members that wanted something to argue about, got her undies in a twist and wondered what was wrong with me and da da da da da, although I; (1)Used the pic within the same board, and(2) As a positive example and not disrespecting in any way.
But as I had actually not did anything wrong, the Mods did not do anything about it either, to the angry objectors frustration.
So, always try to keep a cool head and try to determine the situation in scenarios like these, so that you know whether you got something "on your feet" regarding the case in question or not.
If you've really never seen Dirt's blog then you have no right to tell us to keep "a cool head". She is fantastically disrespectful of the entire FTM experience and picks individuals apart like carving a turkey. She trolls youtube and posts transgender videos on her blog and mocks them to no end.
Everyone has reported her in an attempt to make her act like a decent human being. All have failed. She's been threatened with lawsuits and the like but I don't know how they ended up. She's a sadistic evil human being who refuses to even consider that others might be different from her. I've never been on her site, so far, but I know others who have. I understand her message and her fears of misogyny. That doesn't mean I agree with it. Everyone is different and that should be celebrated instead of shamed.
She is on par with the worst bullies I've ever meant and she's spreading lies about the FTM community and the people in it. I have zero tolerance or patience for her and I will not be keeping cool head where she is involved.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on February 14, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
If you've really never seen Dirt's blog then you have no right to tell us to keep "a cool head". She is fantastically disrespectful of the entire FTM experience and picks individuals apart like carving a turkey. She trolls youtube and posts transgender videos on her blog and mocks them to no end.
Everyone has reported in attempted to her to act like a decent human being. All have failed. She's been threatened with lawsuits and the like but I don't know how they ended up. She's a sadistic evil human being who refuses to even consider that others might be different from her. I've never been on her site, so far, but I know others who have. I understand her message and her fears of misogyny. That doesn't mean I agree with it. Everyone is different and that should be celebrated instead of shamed.
She is on par with the worst bullies I've ever meant and she's spreading lies about the FTM community and the people in it. I have zero tolerance or patience for her and I will not be keeping cool head where she is involved.
I don't think anyone could have said it better. She posted a picture of an INCREDIBLY YOUNG Ftm who I believe is not out yet to family or anything of the sorts. The young FtM does have a youtube channel. But again, I know this kid didn't give this crazy woman permission to put their picture up like that. Why is she attacking young kids now? This is sick. That's the only reason why I posted this thread. She has no compassion or even morals. These are kids she is attacking in her latest blog. It's sick.
Interestingly enough, we've been having ethics discussions in my classes about how we use information on the internet. While it is in the public domain, contextual consent for the use of pics has not been given. Sadly, a violation of ethics doesn't equal lawsuit.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on February 14, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
If you've really never seen Dirt's blog then you have no right to tell us to keep "a cool head". She is fantastically disrespectful of the entire FTM experience and picks individuals apart like carving a turkey. She trolls youtube and posts transgender videos on her blog and mocks them to no end.
She is on par with the worst bullies I've ever meant and she's spreading lies about the FTM community and the people in it. I have zero tolerance or patience for her and I will not be keeping cool head where she is involved.
Please excuse me for invading your space here, but your postings had caught my attention and it rang a bell. One of the Shakespearean plays had a passage that went something like, "Thou dost protest too much!" I recall some time ago sitting in a church where the preacher went on tirades against homosexuality on a regular basis, he was so vitriolic in his rants that everyone in the congregation became extremely uncomfortable, his message was in diametric opposition to that of Christ. Eventually it turned out that although he was married with children this preacher had a secret life with dozens of gay young men. I have seen this behavior manifested in both men and women many times since and have taken note that it's a well used behavioral ruse to deflect attention from themselves. So my gut feeling about "Dirt" is that we can make an educated assumption that she is aptly named for the dirt in her own closet! Perhaps someone who has access to her link should tell her that she isn't fooling anyone.
Quote from: Shantel on February 14, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Please excuse me for invading your space here, but your postings had caught my attention and it rang a bell. One of the Shakespearean plays had a passage that went something like, "Thou dost protest too much!" I recall some time ago sitting in a church where the preacher went on tirades against homosexuality on a regular basis, he was so vitriolic in his rants that everyone in the congregation became extremely uncomfortable, his message was in diametric opposition to that of Christ. Eventually it turned out that although he was married with children this preacher had a secret life with dozens of gay young men. I have seen this behavior manifested in both men and women many times since and have taken note that it's a well used behavioral ruse to deflect attention from themselves. So my gut feeling about "Dirt" is that we can make an educated assumption that she is aptly named for the dirt in her own closet! Perhaps someone who has access to her link should tell her that she isn't fooling anyone.
Interesting.
The descriptions of this "Dirt" made me think of Janice Raymond, as they seem so similar to each other and especially their opinions on Transsexualism(I believe Dirt may have read her ramblings), and I also recalled that it have been
rumoured, that the reason why Raymond was so aggressive in her attitude and writings towards Transsexuals, was because she had once been very attracted to such people, but had been rejected.
Once again, this is a rumour and not a confirmed fact. But it is nonetheless worth considering as a very plausible cause as such things have certainly happened before.
Quote from: Shantel on February 14, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Please excuse me for invading your space here, but your postings had caught my attention and it rang a bell. One of the Shakespearean plays had a passage that went something like, "Thou dost protest too much!" I recall some time ago sitting in a church where the preacher went on tirades against homosexuality on a regular basis, he was so vitriolic in his rants that everyone in the congregation became extremely uncomfortable, his message was in diametric opposition to that of Christ. Eventually it turned out that although he was married with children this preacher had a secret life with dozens of gay young men. I have seen this behavior manifested in both men and women many times since and have taken note that it's a well used behavioral ruse to deflect attention from themselves. So my gut feeling about "Dirt" is that we can make an educated assumption that she is aptly named for the dirt in her own closet! Perhaps someone who has access to her link should tell her that she isn't fooling anyone.
It's more or less well known that Dirt use to be FTM, or at least strongly considered it. Then she reconsidered it by deciding that FTM's are just girls looking for male privilege. She thinks it's disgusting that girls feel they have to change their bodies in order to succeed in a male dominated world. She illustrates this by posting nude pictures of FTM's against their wishes and pointing out in detail how 'gross' they are to her. One of her tag lines is, "Change the system, not your body." That is the whole preface of her blog.
Now in that I can almost agree with her. Saving that one important point that FTM's are NOT girls who just want to be guys. They are in fact men and that's why they are transitioning. Other then that I agree that no one should have to change themselves in order to fit in. The thing is FTM are not changing themselves but are merely becoming who they are already. So by insulting FTM's she is going against her own philosophy. If only she could wrap her mind around that.
Also, yes, many many people have hard the same thought as you Bishounen and Shantel. Obviously she is hiding or suppressing something huge. She gets that pointed out to her, often rudely, on a daily basis to the point it's no longer productive or has any effect.
Quote from: dalebert on February 13, 2012, 10:43:34 PM
It just bugs me that this women attempts to speak on behalf of EVERYONE in such a sweeping manner.
I guess she would see me as a lesbian woman who is in denial about being attracted to women...or some such rubbish.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought (as Squirrel points out) that the person in question was trying to transition at some point. She (or he) must be twisted up like a pretzel now. I know what it was like for me to do all those mind->-bleeped-<- games on myself, so I ordinarily would feel for such a person...EXCEPT that it's not okay to go out on a petty and vindictive vendetta against an entire group of people just because of your own hang-ups.
Frankly, I don't give a flying fluke what this person thinks, but I do care about what she (or he) does. So this is just another reason for me not to post pics of myself.
While she's antagonistic, I know some folks have been able to get her to remove their pictures/videos/info by sending her a polite email. If you don't react explosively, she tends to be reasonable. Or, well, as reasonable as I've seen her get.
I don't agree with her and think that her body-shaming posts are disgusting, but there's not much folks can do beyond asking her to take your stuff down and just avoid her site.
Zzz I came in too late and missed the link before it was removed, sad I can't see what everyone is talking about :(
Stealing of images by others for their own purposes is an ongoing problem. We had someone that used to be in my club who took images of the deep sky from other sites and was trying to sell them. These people wanted to know who she was. I happened to know her back in the 90's and she was trouble back then. I did a google search of her and found a lot of illegal things (scams) that she did since then and relayed that info back to the owners of those sites. We then put a sterner copyright warning on our pages. That still won't stop them, even if you put a watermark in the images.
Joelene
I thought she had had a partner who ended up transitioning FTM? Or maybe I'm imagining that.
Quote from: Solobear on February 14, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
I thought she had had a partner who ended up transitioning FTM? Or maybe I'm imagining that.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley-laughing001.gif&hash=8d5ce97a5da8d73b80e546fbbafddf665cccd6f2) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Good one, but not quite. Golddigger is the word that described her. She married an older fellow with money a year before she left the club and contact with us. He evidently left her. She tried to sue the hospital because her anorexic daughter died of pregnancy complications, the lawsuit and the appeal failed according to records I read. Her home was foreclosed on and she was a victim of a debt consolidation scheme to prevent foreclosure. There was a newspaper article on that I read in my search.
She was on the news several months back on why she's living in a trailer and parking it in a state park or off to the side somewhere. How sad.
Joelene
How do you people find this ->-bleeped-<- out? Haha.
Quote from: Caseyyy on February 14, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
How do you people find this ->-bleeped-<- out? Haha.
By simply Googleing someone's name. Do your's first. The woman I googled had a more unique name than the rest of the population, her only dopplegänger, same age, lives on the east coast with no criminal or legal problems. If you know that person's name, age, location or locations they've been, those are a good clues. The more clues about a person the better the search. There are a lot of "John Smiths' out there, you have to determine which one. You may find some verrry.... interesting things about yourself.
Joelene
I have googled her full name and not found much. Oh well, whatever her life story is she seems unhappy.
I googled myself and the only things that pop up are my $10 donation to my friends Movember page and my email contact info on the grad website for my uni. Sweet.
Caseyyy,
You're young. As life goes on, the detritus of your life will be recorded here on the internet or other information sources, some of those sources not invented yet. We all should be careful what we all do these days. Some of those cool, neato things you did while you are younger may come to bite you in the arse when trying to get a job or a security clearance. It is employers' choice these days of a depressed economy, they will do background checks on you. Their in house staff or an external agency will do that, using keywords in the search you might never think of to glean any information on you. Sometimes your boss may do a check on you.
One manager just simply went into his office and actually checked on one of his 'sick' employees on his computer station. He had the list of websites he visited from the company's computer and picked a YouTube one. He saw his employee in drag making fun of the company, his manager, and other employees. The time downloaded was just an half hour before. This one actually got press several years ago. This fellow really got razzed when he showed up for his pink slip. Take it easy on Facebook, twitter, YouTube and the other social site. You cannot delete fast enough on those sites before someone mirrors that entry.
Joelene
Quote from: Joelene9 on February 14, 2012, 10:56:32 PM
Caseyyy,
You're young. As life goes on, the detritus of your life will be recorded here on the internet or other information sources, some of those sources not invented yet. We all should be careful what we all do these days. Some of those cool, neato things you did while you are younger may come to bite you in the arse when trying to get a job or a security clearance. It is employers' choice these days of a depressed economy, they will do background checks on you. Their in house staff or an external agency will do that, using keywords in the search you might never think of to glean any information on you. Sometimes your boss may do a check on you.
One manager just simply went into his office and actually checked on one of his 'sick' employees on his computer station. He had the list of websites he visited from the company's computer and picked a YouTube one. He saw his employee in drag making fun of the company, his manager, and other employees. The time downloaded was just an half hour before. This one actually got press several years ago. This fellow really got razzed when he showed up for his pink slip. Take it easy on Facebook, twitter, YouTube and the other social site. You cannot delete fast enough on those sites before someone mirrors that entry.
Joelene
Anytime some one from Craigslist email me the first thing I will do is run their email through Facebook and the internet and see who this person is and what they like, what they do, what they look like etc. There's a 50/50 chance something will pop up.
Back to the topic at hand I just got done rading some of her blogs and I must say they do poison the mind.
As life goes on, the detritus of your life will be recorded here on the internet or other information sources, some of those sources not invented yet.
Long before the internet people knew: Say it, forget it - write it, regret it.
Quote from: tekla on February 14, 2012, 11:18:46 PM
As life goes on, the detritus of your life will be recorded here on the internet or other information sources, some of those sources not invented yet.
Long before the internet people knew: Say it, forget it - write it, regret it.
Yes, being born in early 1950's, I seen that change with the technology. There were hidden mics and phone wiretaps at the time, otherwise it was your word against another. Those recording devices were clunky and expensive and used vacuum tube technology. You had to prove otherwise that the subject talking is the one under investigation, the audio quality was poor in those recordings. Sometimes a warrant was needed. It was like that until the 1970's when technology was good enough to record better with more sensitive equipment that didn't really cost that much.
In the 1980's the first cordless phones for the house were out. All you needed was a Bearcat or Radio Shack scanner to pick up phone conversations of your neighbors or from those wireless baby monitors. I worked on both brands, they can pick up those frequencies with no modifications. I also worked on the the baby monitors, the tiny wireless mics and the old analog cellphones and all you had to do is snip a certain diode in a certain model of scanner to receive cellphone conversations, which was illegal. You can pick up conversations, even though that system was trunked.
That was how Newt Gingrich got his tit in the ringer that was one of the causes of him dropping down as House leader. Newt said something over the cellphone not good that a couple with Democratic ties picked that up with their modified scanner and sold the recording of that to the press. It was the trial by press and not the legal system that done Newt in. What that couple done was illegal, but they got off with nothing. The couple plead that they didn't know how the cellphone system worked and bought the scanner used. You would have to know how that model of scanner worked to pick up a trunked system conversation and record it properly.
One thing that still is true, an oral contract legally isn't worth the paper it is written on. Even recorded on video.
Joelene
This is making me paranoid now. I wish I never posted pics in the "do I pass" thread. Like everyone else, I just wanted feedback to see if I passed or not. I guess though once you post you pic on the net, anyone can get a hold of it.
Dominick
Don't worry if you came out to others, however there is a warning in the Susan's rules about showing things here you would not elsewhere. I may show images of myself here or at another site by link. Family, including down to the cousins once removed, and friends know of my transition. I would start showing myself here after crossdressing and going full time before I would do so. I had the long decades of denying women's clothing in my house and the middle-aged inertia to pass to go on that next step.
Joelene
If someone googled my old name, they'd find a ton of posts on another forum from when I was 15. I didn't post anything really crazy, I pretty much was a shut in and had no life, but I felt weird about being so findable. So once I got my name changed, I don't tell anyone my birth name and I don't do anything to put myself on the net. No facebook, nothing. I'm much happier that way.
Quote from: Caseyyy on February 15, 2012, 07:49:12 AM
I don't tell anyone my birth name and I don't do anything to put myself on the net. No facebook, nothing. I'm much happier that way.
Good plan! At one time I had emailed my resume to an east coast firm. Having been involved in several different occupations at different times there was a note about my former blasting business. About a year later I googled my name and it came up on the Internet with my address and a map to my house. I freaked as I envisioned coming home and finding my home filled with terrorists wanting me to purchase a truckload of explosives for them. I contacted Google and told them that my personal security had been compromised and to remove it. They refused, I had to contact the company that had released it to them and thankfully they were quick on the uptake and had it removed from the Internet.
Quote from: Joelene9 on February 15, 2012, 01:17:47 AM
Dominick
Don't worry if you came out to others, however there is a warning in the Susan's rules about showing things here you would not elsewhere. I may show images of myself here or at another site by link. Family, including down to the cousins once removed, and friends know of my transition. I would start showing myself here after crossdressing and going full time before I would do so. I had the long decades of denying women's clothing in my house and the middle-aged inertia to pass to go on that next step.
Joelene
Thanks. I'm not so concerned about people who know me finding out. I just don't want people using my pics of other sites without my permission ya know? I don't want the world knowing I'm trans.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on February 16, 2012, 08:15:07 PM
I just don't want people using my pics of other sites without my permission ya know? I don't want the world knowing I'm trans.
They don't need your permission. This would fall under "free content", specifically since you; as the source of origin, made it public domain by putting it on the internet. If you want to control such content you'll need a copyright, or at the very least a disclaimer not granting duplication or republishing anywhere else without the explicit permission of the source.
The doctrine of 'free use' would allow anyone to use it, even without copyright acknowledgement so long as a) no money is made in the process {Dr. Kat reminds you: money changes everything}, b) it was in some form publicly published - and there has never in recorded history anything like the 'publicly published' kind of published you get by posting it online.
That sucks.
She reminds me of Michaela Carapadis from GTA Vice City on K-Chat.