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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: insideontheoutside on May 07, 2012, 10:49:25 PM

Title: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: insideontheoutside on May 07, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
Just some visual inspiration.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_l634sfHFrQ1qbj857o1_500.jpg&hash=e41d4f2fcd922ae9de62c6a1b2d3d251760c7b5b)
Do you think this guy is self-conscious of his curvy hips? Probably not.

It's easy to forget that not all men have those idealistic, "perfect" shapes. There's a lot of variation there. When I saw this guy I thought to myself, wow, he's more ripped but basically has the same hips I do (and by hips I don't mean that V-shape that starts at the crest of the hips).
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: anibioman on May 07, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
yep guys have em and if more trans guys would just work out and such we few of us would have a problem with our hips.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Nygeel on May 07, 2012, 11:00:08 PM
Those jeans are very low cut.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 07, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
Those jeans are cut in a way that accentuates what hips he may or may not have.

Quote from: anibioman on May 07, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
yep guys have em and if more trans guys would just work out and such we few of us would have a problem with our hips.

That's a pretty big assumption you are making.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Keaira on May 08, 2012, 12:02:29 AM
I have hips like that. Not that you can see it under my extra padding. ^_^
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Keaira on May 08, 2012, 03:24:11 AM
Oh ya! I forgot. A good example is my brother.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv246%2FKeairaElisabeth%2Fl2.jpg&hash=ed1be644014c21d73ed4fa4cd03812993e7e1647)
He's ripped in a way I never was -_-. I feel so overweight compared to him.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Chamillion on May 08, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
Quote from: anibioman on May 07, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
yep guys have em and if more trans guys would just work out and such we few of us would have a problem with our hips.
Eh that's not really true.  You can lose the fat off your hips, but if you naturally have wide hip bones, they will stay.  What I've found has worked for me though is working out my upper body so now my shoulders are wider than my hips, which helps aesthetically.  But still my hips are noticeably larger than my waist, and will likely remain that way no matter how much I work out.

But yeah, some dudes have wide hips so it's all good.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on May 08, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
My hips are like that :D
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Edge on May 08, 2012, 08:25:14 PM
There's a big difference between having hips and having bones that create an hourglass shape. Losing weight won't do anything for bones. That doesn't make people with wide hip bones lazy or don't work out.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jayr on May 08, 2012, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: anibioman on May 07, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
yep guys have em and if more trans guys would just work out and such we few of us would have a problem with our hips.
Working out definitely helps. But some are just too lazy for that.
(I'm not stupid, I understand some people have disabilities, but that only consists of a very very small part of the population. Even smaller in the trans community. Don't go rip me a new a**hole about it.)
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jayr on May 08, 2012, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: JoeyD on May 08, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
My hips are like that :D
Stop drooling over the pictures v_v
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: pretty on May 08, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
I hate to be a debby downer on ya here, but that guy does NOT have hips, he's just wearing ill-fitting jeans (and wearing them too low).
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on May 08, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
Quote from: pretty on May 08, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
I hate to be a debby downer on ya here, but that guy does NOT have hips, he's just wearing ill-fitting jeans (and wearing them too low).

And even if it was just the jeans, the point is that the guy still looks amazing and sexy even when we're focusing on a distinctly feminine part of his body.

Stop being depressing buttfaces.
All of yous.

Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on May 08, 2012, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: Chamillion on May 08, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
What I've found has worked for me though is working out my upper body so now my shoulders are wider than my hips, which helps aesthetically. 


Everyone should do this then.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 08, 2012, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: JoeyD on May 08, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
And even if it was just the jeans, the point is that the guy still looks amazing and sexy even when we're focusing on a distinctly feminine part of his body.

Stop being depressing buttfaces.
All of yous.

Meh, sexy is relative.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: insideontheoutside on May 08, 2012, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: pretty on May 08, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
I hate to be a debby downer on ya here, but that guy does NOT have hips, he's just wearing ill-fitting jeans (and wearing them too low).

Actually he does have hips. Right below the waistband of the jeans. It's a bone structure thing. If he didn't have them, those pants would fall right off. Many guys do not have a structure like this.

Behold ... not the same kind of hips as the first dude ...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F27.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lzu2bdktLn1qhaj6yo1_400.jpg&hash=5e31696d2681cb1081a4529f868b69c79de24358)
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Stealthy on May 09, 2012, 02:19:44 AM
Quote from: Jayr on May 08, 2012, 08:30:14 PMI'm not stupid, I understand some people have disabilities, but that only consists of a very very small part of the population. Even smaller in the trans community. Don't go rip me a new a**hole about it.

What trans community are you in? It's definitely not the same as my main one. It's starting to weird me out how people think someone can only be in one or two oppressed groups, but then again, I'm a disabled queer trans non-binary person (and part-'kin, and median, and about a thousand other things) and most of the people I associate with on a daily basis are similar, so  :D
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jayr on May 09, 2012, 02:59:04 AM
Quote from: Stealthy on May 09, 2012, 02:19:44 AM
What trans community are you in? It's definitely not the same as my main one. It's starting to weird me out how people think someone can only be in one or two oppressed groups, but then again, I'm a disabled queer trans non-binary person (and part-'kin, and median, and about a thousand other things) and most of the people I associate with on a daily basis are similar, so  :D
Huh? I meant since there's very few trans people(compared to the rest of the population) there's obviously going to be even less disabled people in our community (then the rest of the population) But I never said anything about being one or the other. That wouldn't make much sense.

I just mentioned disabilities cause people here tend to get at you for everything. I didn't want someone coming at me like ''Oh but some people have valid reasons they can't workout blah blah.'' So I just mentioned that I realize some people couldn't workout for various reasons.

I'm just saying most of us don't have an excuse other than we're lazy butts. :D
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Stealthy on May 09, 2012, 03:24:19 AM
Yeah, a lot of us are lazy and the like :D But what I've found is, there's a lot of intersectionality and stuff-just because only a tiny minority of the general population is one thing, doesn't mean that only a tiny minority of another minority will be that same thing. For instance, the vast majority of autistics I know are queer/trans, myself included.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Keaira on May 09, 2012, 03:35:54 AM
I know that my brother isn't wearing his pants low so he has some natural curves to him. He may not be trans but I think he shows that working out can give a masculine appearance to your wider hip problem.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jayr on May 09, 2012, 03:46:19 AM
Which is why need to start working out.
Just need to motivate myself enough :P


Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Natkat on May 09, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
I think even though my hips are a problem my waist is the thing who make it looks huge.
I am pretty skinny but if I just could gain mucle/far around that place it would make my hips seams like a non issue.
--
For me my greatest hip inspiration was my brother, I notice last summer that he actually got very wide hips,
if its because he turned mor far or if he always got those, I dont know..
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Chamillion on May 09, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: JoeyD on May 08, 2012, 10:26:09 PM
Everyone should do this then.
I agree with you.

I was not trying to say that we shouldn't work out because it's useless.  I think everyone who is able to work out should, not just for the hips issue but for many positive things that working out does.  You are all right, working out will help.  But I'm simply saying it will only go so far.  If you had a 25 inch waist with 37 inch hips with low body fat before T (these were my measurements), there is no possible way you will be able to look like a typical bio-guy from working out.  My point was that we should accept those things we cannot change and focus on goals that are obtainable.  Saying things like, anyone can change the way their hips look if they stop being lazy is incorrect.  If someone said that to me I would laugh in their face, because I work hard.

For clarification, this isn't directed at you Joey, just other comments I have seen in the thread.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Kareil on May 09, 2012, 04:15:36 PM
I think nobody *notices* the bioguys with hips, because there's nothing drawing your attention to them, unlike the plumber's crack or underwear showing you notice on the guys that don't have any when there's not much to hold them up.

If you just stop and look at *every* guy that walks away from you (I did a couple times when I was bored at work), you'll notice a lot more hips than you'd expect...at least, I'm assuming we don't have *that* high a stealth trans population around here...
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: insideontheoutside on May 09, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Kareil on May 09, 2012, 04:15:36 PM
I think nobody *notices* the bioguys with hips, because there's nothing drawing your attention to them, unlike the plumber's crack or underwear showing you notice on the guys that don't have any when there's not much to hold them up.

If you just stop and look at *every* guy that walks away from you (I did a couple times when I was bored at work), you'll notice a lot more hips than you'd expect...at least, I'm assuming we don't have *that* high a stealth trans population around here...

That's kinda what I'm getting at. Everyone is really wrapped up in the "I can't pass" thing or scrutinizing a part of their own bodies to really take note that in some cases, they're really not that far off from "bio males" (I hate that bio term by the way ... what else would they be "synthesized" males?? lol)
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jayr on May 09, 2012, 07:22:25 PM
Quote from: insideontheoutside on May 09, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
(I hate that bio term by the way ... what else would they be "synthesized" males?? lol)
I say cisguys.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 09, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: insideontheoutside on May 09, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
I hate that bio term by the way ... what else would they be "synthesized" males??

Same, that's why I prefer the term cis.  I cringe every time I see a trans guy saying bio in reference to a cis man.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Edge on May 09, 2012, 07:26:44 PM
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I say "I can't pass" it's not because I have hips specifically. It's because I have never been able to pass as male. I am always assumed to be female even on days when I think I look androgynous at least.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: insideontheoutside on May 09, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: Andy8715 on May 09, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Same, that's why I prefer the term cis.  I cringe every time I see a trans guy saying bio in reference to a cis man.

Ah yes! Some reason I keep forgetting that one ... probably because I didn't know what cis was short for originally.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Nygeel on May 09, 2012, 09:18:35 PM
I have discomfort with my hips. T got rid of my tushy, and moved my chub to my gut. My pant size has gone down but my chest measurement is still smaller than my hip measurement (when bound). Have done the working out thing, it's not for me. I'm growing to love my chubby body despite all the hate I get for it. My waist is getting larger which is really what goes on with us. With cis guys it's mostly that they have muscular thighs in those pics.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: luna nyan on May 10, 2012, 05:54:54 AM
For reference:
When I was doing the gym thing and actually vaguely fit  - my waist line was 29", hip was 34".  Buying trousers and jeans were a pain - I compromised and wore a 32" trouser which was super loose around the waist.  No one ever called me on having a weird shape or anything so my message to the FTMs is to not worry so much about it.  Just work on bulking up the upper body a bit and it'll all balance out nicely.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: pretty on May 10, 2012, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: luna nyan on May 10, 2012, 05:54:54 AM
For reference:
When I was doing the gym thing and actually vaguely fit  - my waist line was 29", hip was 34".  Buying trousers and jeans were a pain - I compromised and wore a 32" trouser which was super loose around the waist.  No one ever called me on having a weird shape or anything so my message to the FTMs is to not worry so much about it.  Just work on bulking up the upper body a bit and it'll all balance out nicely.

Personally I had/have a 27" waist and 35" hips. and I got picked on for my shape as a kid/young teen. So I stopped going swimming.  ::)

But that's kids... it's true that adults probably don't really care.  :)

If it helps though, yep occasionally male-bodied people are born with a waist and hips. OP pic is not the best example of it though IMO is all.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Rossiter on May 12, 2012, 01:05:06 AM
yeah, a better example is this guy I came across a few minutes ago from something unrelated:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtJ87o.jpg&hash=c7ee77c5b39ef94c9601dd7f2d1f0cb6a051de1c)

that's more my idea of a guy with a "feminine" body shape.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Jigsaw on May 12, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
I have often wondered what the big fascination with hips is?  Guys I know are not looking at that area, especially if they at first glance see you as a man.   I have wide hips and a big butt, nobody has ever commented or cared to be honest.  When I was having to live as a female, yeah... it was mentioned many times, but now... nobody cares.    I would think just based on my experience if your upper body presents well, then rest is good to go.  Maybe if you insist on wearing skinny jeans...maybe baggy?  But well fitting clothes?  I just don't see it.

If there is something I am missing, can somebody please explain because every time I see these post I am clueless as to what the deal is.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Devin87 on May 12, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
When I was in high school there was this one guy who always used to joke about his "child-bearing hips".  No one gave him a hard time for it because he could laugh about it and accepted it as his body.  They are pretty common in guys.  I'm pretty lucky in that I've always had big shoulders that balance my big hips and make them barely noticable in most clothes.

For me I think my side view is worse.  I think i look like a jelly bean from the side...  I'm starting T sometime in the next month or two and I'm really hoping it does something about my giant butt.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: Keaira on May 12, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
Okay, I can't let you guys suffer. And I can't hold back. I mean no offense and I say this jokingly.

You sound like a group of women in a clothing store asking each other, "Does this make my butt look big?" :P


Honestly, you guys will be fine. Cisguy's tend to avoid looking down in that area anyway because they worry about other things like "don't look at his junk, he might think I'm gay," etc.
I mean girls have more of a curvature to their spine too, but not a single one of you has brought that up. looking at the current fashion trends for males, I very much doubt your hips will be seen anyway. I've got more of a chance of being stared at for my body parts because I have breasts than you guys. Unless you are wearing skin tight pants and walk like a girl ( I mean like seriously girly), I very much doubt it's your hips that will get you clocked.

*hugs*
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: insideontheoutside on May 12, 2012, 06:37:51 PM
This post is still going lol. The whole reason I created it was because I think you guys spend too much time fretting about body shape. Just relax.
Title: Re: Hips. Yup, guys have 'em.
Post by: mementomori on May 13, 2012, 07:56:45 PM
lol im im biologically male and have small hips , but i wish there were bigger , like sophia laurens

http://www.skinnyvscurvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sophia-loren-deserves-a-post.jpg (http://www.skinnyvscurvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sophia-loren-deserves-a-post.jpg)