My friend posted this on Facebook and it has gotten a mix of supportive and some really hateful comments.
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Here's one of the hateful ones (from this thread (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318358238243680&set=a.318358234910347.73912.209183045827867&type=3&theater) if anyone cares to chime in, though I'm not sure if I have the link right. Facebook is so annoying.):
QuoteSorry lads there is a diference between natural born wimmin and . Men acting out gender roles. This is like saying to me that I am not a woman unless I wear a dress make up ad all the fakeness that does not make me a woman. Tis not the clothes that makes the man or woman. Im sick of my natural birth rights being called dirty. Im sick of being told that these things do not make me a woman. If this was true then Les wimmin would have no problem sleeping with trans men! But Hay Guess What We Do!!!!! Do You Know Why? Because they are not wimmin....!!!!!! They Are Men in dresses seeking to invade our space our bedrooms our wimmins space. These Trans men have no respect for wimmins rights or natural born wimmins space. I respect there space all I ask is for them to respect ours. End Of
I weighed in. But, I held back.
That's a cute picture. I like how colourful it is.
lol So cute, I saw this on facebook a few days back an it brightened up my day.
That lady needs to invade a grammar course in a big way...
Trans women are invading your bedroom? What?
And what's with the "wimmins?"
I will agree witht the point that wearing dressess ≠ being a woman; you don't need a dress to be a woman, and you don't need to be a woman to wear a dress. But that's kinda missing point of the pic, isn't it?
Also, I love this. It's really cute, both the images and the words, and I love the message.
I suspect most folks here know this already, but "wimmin" is a way of spelling "women" without "men". There are a couple of other variations as well.
This person is a raging bigot.
I actually shared it on mine 4 week or so ago. It made the rounds of some of my friends. We all thought it was too cute.
Her post is just offensive for the use of trans men to reference transwomen.
:3
Can there be a country with this as the flag?
I'd gladly move there.
The extremist minorities are usually really vocal like that. They always feel like they have to teach people... or they're defensive and insecure. It's really nothing new, although it is always amusing to see how badly a person can misunderstand something - mostly just for the fun of laughing at someone 'slipping on a banana peel', but partially because I enjoy their contribution to my numbers.
I have seen the comic on Facebook before... some weeks ago. It is absolutely adorable, and I love it. :)
Here is one I ran across, kinda sez it all ;)
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Quote from: Michelle G on June 05, 2012, 01:15:28 AM
Here is one I ran across, kinda sez it all ;)
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That was really funny... ;D
I couldn't tell you how many times I've said the right thing about some issue and have been completely ignored because my mannerisms or my voice or whatever didn't "impress" the guys around. Only girls would listen to me, but they wouldn't be heard either...
...->-bleeped-<-, I hate this world. :P
Aw, this is really cool. I love it.
The cartoon is great.
I refuse to listen to bigots who use words that are not in the English language. "Wimmin" is right up there on my list of hates with 'agreeance'!
I think the cartoon is great as well. The second one is funny. The WOMAN is an ignorant bigot. Do we really need to make up new words to be bigoted.
I found another comic book about gender, this time Sabrina the Teenage Witch Casts a Spell
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/16/archie-comics-gender-swap/ (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/16/archie-comics-gender-swap/)
I am looking for a gender comic that is just 1 page , I saw once before about someone who, throughout the panels kept on being transformed and stating themselves as said person or orientation, that's all I can remember, anyone have an idea what that was?
Quote from: dalebert on June 04, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
I suspect most folks here know this already, but "wimmin" is a way of spelling "women" without "men". There are a couple of other variations as well.
Lol I did not know this. I found her use of "transmen" confusing enough I didn't even think to question her weird spelling.
Adorable comic there. :)
Quote from: justmeinoz on June 09, 2012, 04:36:51 AM
The cartoon is great.
I refuse to listen to bigots who use words that are not in the English language. "Wimmin" is right up there on my list of hates with 'agreeance'!
Totally gonna start using agreeance every chance I get. ;D
another I found :)
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Haha
That was good too
I'm liking their telekinetic powers
Quote from: Felix on June 10, 2012, 01:17:27 AM
Lol I did not know this. I found her use of "transmen" confusing enough I didn't even think to question her weird spelling.
i've noticed that ignorant people and bigots tend to classify transsexuals by their birth sex
their "trans man" would be spelled "woman" here
Quote from: Michelle G on June 16, 2012, 11:57:13 AM
another I found :)
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really good plain to hot transformation
Quote from: Taka on June 17, 2012, 07:11:44 AM
i've noticed that ignorant people and bigots tend to classify transsexuals by their birth sex
their "trans man" would be spelled "woman" here
Yep. I just corrected a couple of ignorant people yesterday, very politely of course. They weren't bigots (in this case). Just ignorant.
Quote from: PrincessKnight on June 04, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
Trans women are invading your bedroom? What?
And what's with the "wimmins?"
Radical men-hating feminists who give all the rest of us rational and caring feminists a bad name that's what!
Quote from: justmeinoz on June 09, 2012, 04:36:51 AM
The cartoon is great.
I refuse to listen to bigots who use words that are not in the English language. "Wimmin" is right up there on my list of hates with 'agreeance'!
As a linguist I beg to differ.
Wimmin and
womyn etc.
are English words regardless of what anyone thinks. You need to find out what a 'word' is. I say this in the nicest way of course :)
The comics are adorable, people just seem to have a problem seeing trans-women as women just because of a simple birth characteristic.
I saw this in a strip called Abstruse Goose, which is basically a science/maths geek comic with an interesting edge to it. I'm not sure what the artist's intention was here, but I really like this!
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Haha. That's cute.
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Quote from: Padma on July 18, 2012, 09:51:11 AM
I saw this in a strip called Abstruse Goose, which is basically a science/maths geek comic with an interesting edge to it. I'm not sure what the artist's intention was here, but I really like this!
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Lol...that is So me!! I love it! :)
And the spork cartoon is priceless :)
Spork, I always wonder about them.
Joelene
Just saw this, too - which tickled the hell out of me.
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The time travel one is great! I've actually mused in the past about whether or not I would recognize my future self if we were to meet. At the point in my life when I was thinking about it I would have been as surprised as that guy in the comic. Very relevant, thank-you.
Yeah, I really like it. I have a feeling that the positivity of it for trans folk is accidental to the artist's humour, but I don't care, I've written to say thanks :).
Quote from: Padma on July 19, 2012, 03:21:38 AM
Yeah, I really like it. I have a feeling that the positivity of it for trans folk is accidental to the artist's humour, but I don't care, I've written to say thanks :).
Wasn't that great? The reaction wasn't the stereotypical "OMG, you're a woman!" but rather "Damn, you look pretty good." like it was no big deal. That's cultural progress to me, when it stops being a big deal.
Quote from: Padma on July 19, 2012, 03:21:38 AM
I have a feeling that the positivity of it for trans folk is accidental to the artist's humour
Even better :)
What I meant was that, looking at his other cartoons, he's clearly pro-LGBT, but it's just not one of his 'issues'. So this cartoon probably wasn't meant specifically as a pro-T statement, it just works really well that way :).
(I'm assuming from context the author is a bloke - I haven't been able to find out who it is yet.)
Oh, I agree - I just also take it as a nice observation that he has a positive outlook without being specifically pro-trans. Progress :)
I liked the innocence of the cartoon, it is quite refreshing to see the point of the "hook" done in so few words :)
Yea, I've seen this one before on my Google+ account. It is cute (but I passed on diving into the hateful comments on FB ;) )
Quote from: dalebert on June 04, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
My friend posted this on Facebook and it has gotten a mix of supportive and some really hateful comments.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTEFSZ.jpg&hash=bee7d85532f13dca86b86be6f63d0df9152836f5)
Here's one of the hateful ones (from this thread (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318358238243680&set=a.318358234910347.73912.209183045827867&type=3&theater) if anyone cares to chime in, though I'm not sure if I have the link right. Facebook is so annoying.):
Quote from: Padma on July 19, 2012, 03:21:38 AM
Yeah, I really like it. I have a feeling that the positivity of it for trans folk is accidental to the artist's humour, but I don't care, I've written to say thanks :).
I'm a great fan of irony, although I'm not sure if it applies to this artist given what you said about their LGBT support. Perhaps the greatest irony then is that a pro-trans message may be completely lost on the general populace. SNEAK-ATTACK!
Quote from: Violet Bloom on July 19, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
I'm a great fan of irony, although I'm not sure if it applies to this artist given what you said about their LGBT support. Perhaps the greatest irony then is that a pro-trans message may be completely lost on the general populace. SNEAK-ATTACK!
Interesting comment, I bet if this cartoon was in a mainstream magazine with no other trans context folks would just see it as cute with an eye opening "what if" but with little other personal impact.
I love all of these comics! And I will also hold out my opinions of the raging bigot... but its all true parts should never be part of the equation...
Yikes!!!
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I love those comics. Wish the world had the attitude of these comics. I recommend Venus Envy, Between the Lines and Charlie's Story from KhaosKomix.