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Hi,
is anyone out there that has had 'work' done by Dr. Rushpol at PIH?

He is a colleague of Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn, now mostly (only?) focusing on SRS ... and maybe BA.

I had goggled for Dr. Rushpol patients feedback some time back, and there was only really good feedback to be found. He seems quite busy from what I understand also.

Feedback anyone?

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 03, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Hi,
is anyone out there that has had 'work' done by Dr. Rushpol at PIH?

He is a colleague of Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn, now mostly (only?) focusing on SRS ... and maybe BA.

I had goggled for Dr. Rushpol patients feedback some time back, and there was only really good feedback to be found. He seems quite busy from what I understand also.

Feedback anyone?

Axélle

Im curious to hear too. I read his reviews and saw his work and he seems pretty good so I amconsidering him.

Hi!

Please add me to the list of those interested in hearing about FFS results in Phuket!

Robyn

Hum, I'm busy trying to get my flight/op schedule sorted at present and it proves to be a pain in the neck due to 50% and increased flight cost compared to last year when I went for SRS.

In any case, if and when I go, I'll have a laptop this time AND Wi-Fi so I am able to keep you guys posted. I might be off as early as July 17 and as late Aug 14 maybe even later? I hope not due to the higher prices – and THAT ... going into monsoon season ... nuts!

In any case I decided to go with Dr Rushpol. I know the hospital and the staff and I was much impressed last year during my SRS 2 week stay.

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 07, 2012, 10:48:07 AM
Hum, I'm busy trying to get my flight/op schedule sorted at present and it proves to be a pain in the neck due to 50% and increased flight cost compared to last year when I went for SRS.

In any case, if and when I go, I'll have a laptop this time AND Wi-Fi so I am able to keep you guys posted. I might be off as early as July 17 and as late Aug 14 maybe even later? I hope not due to the higher prices – and THAT ... going into monsoon season ... nuts!

In any case I decided to go with Dr Rushpol. I know the hospital and the staff and I was much impressed last year during my SRS 2 week stay.

Axélle

July 17? that's really soon, good luck!

Keep us posted.

Quote from: Adam1 on July 07, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
July 17? that's really soon, good luck!

Keep us posted.

18th July departure it turned out to be this morning, 20th July for the op-date.
Flight is booked, treatment plan received.

And thanks for the 'good luck' wishes :)

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 08, 2012, 04:27:25 AM
18th July departure it turned out to be this morning, 20th July for the op-date.
Flight is booked, treatment plan received.

And thanks for the 'good luck' wishes :)

Axélle

Tell us how the food is too! Is genuine Thai food tasty?

Thank you, Axelle.  I'll be following your postings with great interest.  Happy travels and all best!

Quote from: Adam1 on July 08, 2012, 04:39:33 AM
Tell us how the food is too! Is genuine Thai food tasty?

I can answer that from previous experience... YES, I LOVE Thai food.
It is very special to me, right next to Thai massage, um :)
Thai food I had in Malaysia was expensive but YUMMY! Better even than Indian 'Banana leave' curries, but I also much preferred in Thailand itself i.e. Phuket.
Like to have spicy breakfaaaas? Thai is the best for me :)

I hope I can chew after my op, else it be soup (broth) but even that is much to my liking. I had quite some of that last year when coming out of SRS...

Thank you for caring,
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 08, 2012, 04:27:25 AM
18th July departure it turned out to be this morning, 20th July for the op-date.
Flight is booked, treatment plan received.
Axélle

Congratulations!  That is next week!

Quote from: wendy on July 09, 2012, 05:15:32 PM
Congratulations!  That is next week!

Hi doll, yes next WE, FR op, and tell me when I come back looking like all Sharon Stone - at 40! Eh?

Just kidding,
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 10, 2012, 01:58:57 AM
Hi doll, yes next WE, FR op, and tell me when I come back looking like all Sharon Stone - at 40! Eh?

Just kidding,
Axélle

Do you want Michael Douglas as your boyfriend?  :)

Typically FFS shaves 10-15 years off your birth age.  You will be pleased.

Actually I have seen girls drop 20 years off birth age.

You will do really well as you already have feminine skull shape and feminine features.

Chin is totally numb so that  a good electrologist can work and you will feel near nothing.

When you return to South Africa you will need to carry a bat to beat guys off!

Quote from: wendy on July 10, 2012, 09:33:34 AM
Do you want Michael Douglas as your boyfriend?  :)

Typically FFS shaves 10-15 years off your birth age.  You will be pleased.

Actually I have seen girls drop 20 years off birth age.

You will do really well as you already have feminine skull shape and feminine features.

Chin is totally numb so that  a good electrologist can work and you will feel near nothing.

When you return to South Africa

Your word in the good Lords ear. Michael Douglas? The sex fiend? Alrightie, let's bring him on.

"... you will need to carry a bat to beat guys off!"

A KnobKerrie... as in Kerrie's knob  :o... - OK, will take you word for it  ;D

http://www.google.co.za/search?q=knobkerrie&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=V0D8T8K9N9GZhQfN55jqBg&ved=0CFgQsAQ&biw=895&bih=539 (http://www.google.co.za/search?q=knobkerrie&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=V0D8T8K9N9GZhQfN55jqBg&ved=0CFgQsAQ&biw=895&bih=539)

Axélle

OMG Axelle,

I thought you have your FFS completed already. You look very feminine already. I can only imagine what will you look like after the FFS. A movie star :) I am very happy for you and I will be with you during your recovery.

Quote from: swan on July 10, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
OMG Axelle,

I thought you have your FFS completed already. You look very feminine already. I can only imagine what will you look like after the FFS. A movie star :) I am very happy for you and I will be with you during your recovery.

Thank you for the 'flowers' Swan, very sweet of you... pictures only 'say' so much; in particular when looking into the mirror in the morning!
I still get my share of 'odd' looks, make no mistake, and NOT because I look like S. Stone. Can't be my legs... or can it? :D

Let's hope all goes well and I shall keep you posted,
Axélle

What are you having done Sis?

Quote from: Cindy James on July 11, 2012, 04:40:41 AM
What are you having done Sis?

You know, it's like what is called a cafeteria system... facelift Baht 130k, chin-reduction Baht 80k, etc. etc. it tops out at around Baht 675k, by FAAAAR to much for my pocket.
The final outcome of what I'm going to have will be after having spoken to Dr Rushapol - and him having given my face (and my purse) a good look at.
Like buying a new Merc or BMer... heated seats? Sport suspension? GPS? Reverse detection? Extra chrome... you know then.
I hope to get 'away' with facelift and chin-reduction, we shall see.

Thank you for asking :)
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 10, 2012, 09:50:51 AM
Your word in the good Lords ear. Michael Douglas? The sex fiend? Alrightie, let's bring him on.

"... you will need to carry a bat to beat guys off!"

A KnobKerrie... as in Kerrie's knob  :o... - OK, will take you word for it  ;D


Axélle

Poor Michael Douglas would meet his match!  Girl you would wear him out.  But poor fellow would die with a smile!  Of cause Micheal Douglas would probably enjoy a light tap on rump with a KnobKerrie (which looks like a miniature golf wood).  What if he carried a KnobKerrie too?  :)

I am sorry for asking Axelle, but will the facelift include forehead lift as well. If so I think you will get away with it. You look very feminine already.
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Quote from: swan on July 11, 2012, 06:58:56 PM
I am sorry for asking Axelle, but will the facelift include forehead lift as well. If so I think you will get away with it. You look very feminine already.

Swan, you are more than welcome to ask any questions :)
In fact I'm not sure of the answer. Looking at PIH price structure TB 130 000 for facelift, it may well not be included. Money rules - I wish I be wrong.
Also, why I don't know yet? It is only AFTER surgeon consultation that those things will be finalized and agreed upon.
I also just learned today, my kitty will have it's 10month post-op inspection by 'creator' Dr Kunaporn. It remains to be hoped that results will not take more $$$ out of my 'face budget'... ::)

Now why is it that your last sentence has such an effect on me? 'Smoke gets in my eyes...'
Thank you for your kind words.

Hug,
Axélle

Hi Axelle,

I'm curious about your correspondence with Phuket.  Dr. Kunaporn has nicely responded personally to my e-mail inquiries.  Have you had direct correspondence with Dr. Rushapol?  I presume you sent a number of photos for evaluation?

All thanks,
Robyn

Quote from: msrobyn-alice on July 12, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Hi Axelle,

I'm curious about your correspondence with Phuket.  Dr. Kunaporn has nicely responded personally to my e-mail inquiries.  Have you had direct correspondence with Dr. Rushapol?  I presume you sent a number of photos for evaluation?

All thanks,
Robyn

Robyn,
I have had no direct correspondence with Dr Rushapol, but with Helen and Katrina, both international co-ordinators for PIH Aesthetic Clinic.
I'm told that things on 'that side' work somewhat differently than on the SRS side of PIH.

Yes, I send 3 pictures - though I'm told all depends on a one-on-one evaluation with the surgeon upon arrival.
One MUST arrive at least 1 day before the appointment date, and absolutely not negotiable, required to stay 14 days. This includes hospital time of 2 - 3 days max.

Hope this helps,
Axélle

Axelle,

Thank you for that info, all of it good and much appreciated.

Greetings from Romania,
Robyn

Slow shock quote... ... T Baht 565'000!!! -> US$18'000!!! for: Forehead contouring & lift (got to forgo contouring... I guess...), lower face & neck lift (will do), lower blepharoplasty (got to forgo???), chin-reduction (will do), tracheal shave (no need)

As it turn out is $ 7k more than my GRS... oh shhhhhhhhhhhite, what next?

This of course does NOT include the air fare and 13 days hotel and food yet... food for thought.

Maybe I must just go and have a 14 day holiday on a rainy Phuket beach? And come back with some change and my old mug?! ...
Poor Axélle... very sorry for self, ts, ts, ts.

Ts, ts, ts,
A

That sounds expensive. Have you checked the quotes of other doctors. Dr Ch. is good with FFS.

Axelle and all,

Well, the estimate I got from the Suporn Clinic for the FFS full works was nearly $28,000USD, which is still far less than the $40K that I understand Dr. Ousterhout charges.  Looked on from that perspective, $18,000USD sounds like a relative bargain even if one's bank account begs to disagree.

A Pakistani friend of mine (lives in Islamabad) went to Dr. Charan Mahatumarat (dr.charan.m@gmail.com) and was extremely happy with the results.  I've also corresponded with Dr. Charan and find him to be quite communicative and also with prices that are at the lower end.  He seems very well qualified, just not one to advertise through web sites.  You may wish to correspond with him as well.

Long and short is that FFS is not cheap even when it is at the lower end of the price scale  :(.

Best to all,
Robyn

Quote from: Axélle on July 13, 2012, 01:18:36 PM
Slow shock quote... ... T Baht 565'000!!! -> US$18'000!!! for: Forehead contouring & lift (got to forgo contouring... I guess...), lower face & neck lift (will do), lower blepharoplasty (got to forgo???), chin-reduction (will do), tracheal shave (no need)

As it turn out is $ 7k more than my GRS... oh shhhhhhhhhhhite, what next?

This of course does NOT include the air fare and 13 days hotel and food yet... food for thought.

Maybe I must just go and have a 14 day holiday on a rainy Phuket beach? And come back with some change and my old mug?! ...
Poor Axélle... very sorry for self, ts, ts, ts.

Ts, ts, ts,
A

Dear Axelle,

That is half price of top U.S. surgeons.  Price does not drop a lot when you remove things.  I would have saved $500 for trach shave but surgeon said when I eat someone might see trach when swallow.  I eat all time so that I did it.

You will not believe me but you do not need FFS; however you will be pleased in six months.

My BA really hurts but seems to get a lot of mileage.  July 11th I was with a group of community friends and it was raining after dinner.  When we left a pretty MTF asked if she could sit in front seat of my car and wait for rain to stop.  I was wearing a way too small lace lavender bra given to me by a close girlfriend on another continent.  Bra was covered by a turquoise tee shirt that had letters DRAMA QUEEN on front given by another community friend.  I had turquoise earrings and Gloria Vanderbilt shorts.  I do not think rain stopped that night but I needed to open windows.

Axelle go get a BA and FFS.  Then start dreaming.  I see a wealthy handsome man coming over to your home in South Africa.  You will make him a nice meal then you will go swimming naked in your pool with him.  You will scream so loud that all women in your neighborhood will be giggling and all guys will need to take cold showers.

Axelle you are not going on a vacation.  You are going on an adventure.

Quote from: wendy on July 13, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
Dear Axelle,

That is half price of top U.S. surgeons.  Price does not drop a lot when you remove things.  I would have saved $500 for trach shave but surgeon said when I eat someone might see trach when swallow.  I eat all time so that I did it.

You will not believe me but you do not need FFS; however you will be pleased in six months.

My BA really hurts but seems to get a lot of mileage.  July 11th I was with a group of community friends and it was raining after dinner.  When we left a pretty MTF asked if she could sit in front seat of my car and wait for rain to stop.  I was wearing a way too small lace lavender bra given to me by a close girlfriend on another continent.  Bra was covered by a turquoise tee shirt that had letters DRAMA QUEEN on front given by another community friend.  I had turquoise earrings and Gloria Vanderbilt shorts.  I do not think rain stopped that night but I needed to open windows.

Axelle go get a BA and FFS.  Then start dreaming.  I see a wealthy handsome man coming over to your home in South Africa.  You will make him a nice meal then you will go swimming naked in your pool with him.  You will scream so loud that all women in your neighborhood will be giggling and all guys will need to take cold showers.

Axelle you are not going on a vacation.  You are going on an adventure.

Thanks for lovely front-end preview, hi-hi.

BA question: sub-glandular and saline for 'old girls' ?

If I put on one of my push-up bras (like push-up WHAT?) it just feels wrong to have 'rubber-hooters' like that stick out in front. Like olden days Chevy bumpers (rubber cones...) eish!

Am fine with stealth C - D cup, spread volume. Know what I'm saying?
Also, think sub-glandular be quicker to heal.
Want to discuss SERIOUSLY with surgeon. Also much rather like 'fried egg' style presentation when lying on back, not into Cheops pyramid style. Not at ALL for my age at any rate.

Was told by younger man, small boobs more suited to 'sporty style'... me.
Has very un-sport, highly sexy (34 DD), sexed-up girlfriend.
What is wrong with this man ???

Lesbian inside having hard time (yes down there!), eish.

Anyone to chip in?

Axélle

Axelle,

Is this surgeon also a craniofacial surgeon? What procedures are you getting?

Craniofacial, maxillofacial, aesthetic surgery all over, you name it they have it in their program.

see: http://www.plastic-surgery-phuket.com/Search-Procedure (http://www.plastic-surgery-phuket.com/Search-Procedure)

Check out all those procedures --- and how about that WAIST LINE, to die for!
Start working on it honey:)

As I said earlier on, I have to talk it first over with Dr Rushapol, it's in case how that works. Then we will find some agreement between $$$ and 'must haves' ... my current understanding.

Axélle

is he good with noses, where can we find picture samples of his work??

Hon, use their website and ask them. Then let us know, eh?

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 13, 2012, 11:50:15 PM
Thanks for lovely front-end preview, hi-hi.

BA question: sub-glandular and saline for 'old girls' ?

If I put on one of my push-up bras (like push-up WHAT?) it just feels wrong to have 'rubber-hooters' like that stick out in front. Like olden days Chevy bumpers (rubber cones...) eish!

Am fine with stealth C - D cup, spread volume. Know what I'm saying?
Also, think sub-glandular be quicker to heal.
Want to discuss SERIOUSLY with surgeon. Also much rather like 'fried egg' style presentation when lying on back, not into Cheops pyramid style. Not at ALL for my age at any rate.

Was told by younger man, small boobs more suited to 'sporty style'... me.
Has very un-sport, highly sexy (34 DD), sexed-up girlfriend.
What is wrong with this man ???

Lesbian inside having hard time (yes down there!), eish.

Anyone to chip in?

Axélle

Axelle, saline subglanular works but people lie if they say it does not hurt for few months.  Scarring is minimal in nipple area but wow that hurts too.  Implants can push breasts more towards middle of chest.  Actually do not need bra after implants heal.

Not sure what Lesbian inside means.  It seems to be rather easy to be pansexual depending on person.  You are very feminine.

Here is key:
Do what makes you happy and when you are happy other people will be happy.

Thanks for insight hon.

Feminine gal is fäffing, is fäfferag, agh...
Meaning... "It's easy to talk coming out of the majors office, rather than before you walked in", eh?

I hope, wish, and I'll rely that reason will prevail when I have my surgeon's talk next Friday... so long I don't walk out with an agreement on having a phalloplasty, in place or a mammoplasty, yes?

Hug,
Axélle
PS: Lesbian inside... ? Attracted to other females, yet trying to act and be mainstream hetero. Something like that :)

Quote from: Axélle on July 14, 2012, 11:19:56 AM
Thanks for insight hon.

Feminine gal is fäffing, is fäfferag, agh...
Meaning... "It's easy to talk coming out of the majors office, rather than before you walked in", eh?

I hope, wish, and I'll rely that reason will prevail when I have my surgeon's talk next Friday... so long I don't walk out with an agreement on having a phalloplasty, in place or a mammoplasty, yes?

Hug,
Axélle
PS: Lesbian inside... ? Attracted to other females, yet trying to act and be mainstream hetero. Something like that :)

Axelle we are rather pansexual and are attracted to people that make us feel wanted.

I am more attractive than over 50% of genetic females yet I still feel "too" male.

We can not influence what others think and they can not influence what we think.

Yesterday I asked a question of one of male associates at WalMart.  I presented female, looked female, and talked female.  He addressed me as "Yes SIR".  He was nice.  He helped me.  Hey I guess I am male to him.  Not a lot more I can do.  I did not even correct him but it hurt inside.

Hey if you want a penis go get a penis.  I think you just want to be accepted like rest of us.

Axelle you look good.  I have little empathy and you look good.

You are far more decisive than me.  Get FFS and a BA.  You will second guess yourself until you heal.

Then all of a sudden someone will find you "HOT".  You will say how can they find me hot when I was born a guy.  Accept it.  That's what happens. 

I prefer softness of girls to attention of guys but it all depends on person.

I actually like MTF's because I do not have to justify my existence.  It is so nice!

Be yourself!  Like girls!  Like guys!  Like whoever you like!

It is difficult to be trans.  I want it to go away.  Go get a penis.

You do not want a penis.  You want to be accepted and loved.

FFS and BA helps get accepted.  You will need to find someone that loves you.

You will be hot and will not have time to tell us of your adventures.

Be honest.  Would you want my penis?  Do I not look like a self-imposed hermaphrodite?

Hey you are a girl and you had to live as a guy.

Guy felt uncomfortable but was easy whereas girl felt comfortable but was not easy.

Go do what makes you happy and rest will fall in place.

If you want a penis do not go.

If you want to be beautiful then get ready to use knob kerry!

Giggle, giggle, giggle, one of THOSE days, eh?  :D

Maybe I will listen to the voice in the wilderness of Trans whatever, raid my bank account and go for broke? Will see once I'm done with my surgeon Dr Rushapol.
Will he want to push $$$ or will he have good sense to want the best solution for me? Hard to tell... like going shopping, when we are hungry... usually wind up with too much in our basket, eh.

One thing I'm also pondering now having been one full week off E (and Statins for that matter) ... how about to stop E for good? I'm old enough to just give it a miss, bones will not be affected for next few years I still have to live, or?

That would mean boobs will stop doing whatever they would have - still planned to do, or?
Having done BA... then SO WHAT? Same, same could be said about face. Can 'run in' cost of saved E on surgery? Just a thought... am I hallucinating already being off E... or is there some basis to what came to mind ???

Maybe just my CSF leaking...? Oh well, the future WILL tell.

Hugs to all,
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 15, 2012, 11:45:33 PM
Giggle, giggle, giggle, one of THOSE days, eh?  :D

Maybe I will listen to the voice in the wilderness of Trans whatever, raid my bank account and go for broke? Will see once I'm done with my surgeon Dr Rushapol.
Will he want to push $$$ or will he have good sense to want the best solution for me? Hard to tell... like going shopping, when we are hungry... usually wind up with too much in our basket, eh.

One thing I'm also pondering now having been one full week off E (and Statins for that matter) ... how about to stop E for good? I'm old enough to just give it a miss, bones will not be affected for next few years I still have to live, or?

That would mean boobs will stop doing whatever they would have - still planned to do, or?
Having done BA... then SO WHAT? Same, same could be said about face. Can 'run in' cost of saved E on surgery? Just a thought... am I hallucinating already being off E... or is there some basis to what came to mind ???

Maybe just my CSF leaking...? Oh well, the future WILL tell.

Hugs to all,
Axélle

Axelle, are you experiencing much breast growth when you are on hormones?  One size a year is good.  Since you had SRS you should be getting max growth of breasts since you have very low T and feminizing hormones.  I know a lady in her 60's that stopped e.  I take very low amounts and it is fine.

Axelle you live as a woman.  If surgeon is good you will look about 50 and be even more attractive.

Dr. Rushapol will do what he thinks is correct.  You have nice nose and nice jawline.  Do you agree?  Those should not be included.  You will know.

Good luck.  You will make correct decision.  You are beautiful either way.

Quote from: wendy on July 16, 2012, 09:30:21 AM
Axelle, are you experiencing much breast growth when you are on hormones? 

No not really, I might have added 1/2 cup from -A to smallish 38A, now exactly 2 years HRT...

Quote
One size a year is good.  Since you had SRS you should be getting max growth of breasts since you have very low T and feminizing hormones.  I know a lady in her 60's that stopped e.  I take very low amounts and it is fine.

Well, 38A is a couple of miles of "E" ... and we had ONLY big front-ends in my mom's side of family... Maybe on dad's side they flat like pancakes? No idea.

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Axelle you live as a woman.  If surgeon is good you will look about 50 and be even more attractive.

Dr. Rushapol will do what he thinks is correct.  You have nice nose and nice jawline.  Do you agree?  Those should not be included.  You will know.

Good luck.  You will make correct decision.  You are beautiful either way.

Thanks dear, for kind words and encouragement... we all need that going for FFS (I think)
Axx

Quote from: Axélle on July 17, 2012, 03:32:14 AM
I might have added 1/2 cup from -A to smallish 38A, now exactly 2 years HRT...

Axelle I have heard that age affects breast growth.  I've heard that breast growth is more difficult after 65.

You would gain some breast growth if you put on fifty pounds but you have a good figure and that is not good option.

FFS is an expensive painful facelift with some modifications.

You have great hair and it passes but a scalp advance and it will be better.

A chin reduction and brow reduction will eliminate your only masculine features.

You have a beautiful jaw line and nose which are great.

You are very muscular and 38C would lessen appearance of muscular chest.

Face lift makes anyone look younger and you will look 50.

Here is a realistic expectation:

You will appear to be a more feminine looking physically fit 50 year old female with a 38C-32-38 figure with beautiful hair at 5'7".

It makes it easier to get a job when you look younger and prettier too.

You can view it as an investment.

But it really hurts for three months.

And get stubble off with a good electrologist in Thailand!

Start using a  beard trimmer and leave 1/4 inch.

Have you decided on a date?

OK just clocking in, arrived in Phuket this morning at 9:00am. Checked quickly into PIH and will be going for op tomorrow if all goes as planned.

Axélle

Good luck Honey, keep in touch.

Cindy

Quote from: Cindy James on July 19, 2012, 02:56:11 AM
Good luck Honey, keep in touch.

Cindy

Thanks will try my best - but NOT tomorrow... no breakfast, see my SRS surgeon first for check-up, then Dr Rushapol to decide how much I'll have done --- and CAN afford :)

Axélle

Quote from: wendy on July 17, 2012, 11:52:01 AM
Axelle I have heard that age affects breast growth.  I've heard that breast growth is more difficult after 65.

You would gain some breast growth if you put on fifty pounds but you have a good figure and that is not good option.

FFS is an expensive painful facelift with some modifications.

You have great hair and it passes but a scalp advance and it will be better.

A chin reduction and brow reduction will eliminate your only masculine features.

You have a beautiful jaw line and nose which are great.

You are very muscular and 38C would lessen appearance of muscular chest.

Face lift makes anyone look younger and you will look 50.

Here is a realistic expectation:

You will appear to be a more feminine looking physically fit 50 year old female with a 38C-32-38 figure with beautiful hair at 5'7".

It makes it easier to get a job when you look younger and prettier too.

You can view it as an investment.

But it really hurts for three months.

And get stubble off with a good electrologist in Thailand!

Start using a  beard trimmer and leave 1/4 inch.

Have you decided on a date?

Thanks for perfectionist detail :)
I do not mean that facetiously either!
Will guess Dr Rushapol will come up this very much the same. Issue is $$$. BUT... just received email of another +/- windfall Euro 6k.
This will help a LOT, BA and face, close to full enchilada :)
Axélle

Axelle,

Such a great news, looks like god is on your side :) Let us know how did the consultation go.

Quote from: swan on July 19, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
Axelle,

Such a great news, looks like god is on your side :) Let us know how did the consultation go.

Hi, this will be short I guess. I am back in my five* hospital bed again, after having spend last night in ICU next to operating theatre.
Operation started at 3pm, and finished at 11pm (8 hours). Finally had agreed on facelift, neck lift, chin reduction, and BA with Dr Rushapol after lengthy consultation. Plus minor labiaplasty as recommended by Dr Kunaporn all done in one op.
Coming to at night, I was vomiting and then some - and THAT was quite sore with my BA, being the painful of the lot. Was told 'saline' was not the 'in thing' anymore, and so we decided on the more expensive anatomical (cohesive) silicone to spread over my 38-size chest and the medium size 315 ml was used. I am not going to have huge knockers, but I think it suits me just fine.
Just before I could get this post finally done, alas I had to vomit again after having eaten a few pieces of watermelon :( Projection vomited all past the small catch bowl and all over MY KEYBORD!!! That is first for me, but as you can see, lucky enough it still works.
Looking at the computer screen made me 'car sick' I guess. So now, I will keep it short.

Greetings from Phuket...
Axélle

Hugs Axelle,

Try not to puke over the key board, it can be shocking :laugh:

Cindy

Wow :)
I am so happy for you. Facelift doesn't hurt. The chin can be a bit sore but boobs hurt as hell, especially the first few days. It is good you went for silicone implants because they are much better option over saline. Did you get them under the muscle?  I think the size and the shape are perfect because they will look very natural and still big :)
A speedy recovery sister, we are stronger then we ever thought we are :) I know that you can do it :)

Hi Axelle,

Thanks for the update!  It sounds as though everything went as fast as could be from your arrival to surgery.  What have you thought of Dr. Rushapol so far?  I'm in the process of sending the requisite series of photos for evaluation.

Wow, eight hours in surgery?  No wonder you are in the shape you are in!  I've heard from so many people that BA is more painful than just about anything, and you have now confirmed this.

Wishing you a better appetite and more appreciative digestive track!  Please keep the updates coming.

All best,
Robyn

Axelle,

You are one brave lady!

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

You will enjoy new attention.

Quote from: swan on July 21, 2012, 08:34:13 AM
Wow :)
I am so happy for you. Facelift doesn't hurt. The chin can be a bit sore but boobs hurt as hell, especially the first few days. It is good you went for silicone implants because they are much better option over saline. Did you get them under the muscle?  I think the size and the shape are perfect because they will look very natural and still big :)
A speedy recovery sister, we are stronger then we ever thought we are :) I know that you can do it :)

Thank you all. Yes boobs is the most sore --- but getting better, little by little. I had sub-muscular, surgeon was adamant this is the only way to do it... who was I to argue?
Chin and face not too sore, neither vj labiaplasty. But coming out of surgery I would not have wanted to have one more procedure added. 8 hours is quite enough, and boobs was plenty sore enough too. Not so sure if I will ever do forehead contouring, lower blepharoplasty and tummy tuck... never mind I do not have $$$. Just as well. US$ 14'300.00 all in all, and still brow bossing... maybe just as well, not sure I want look like "Snow White" as surgeon suggested?!?
I guess tomorrow I need to get out of hospital, we shall see.
At least Susan's still works after vomiting all over key board, Outlook and FB all bombed out after clean-up, eish!
Axélle

Quote from: msrobyn-alice on July 21, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Hi Axelle,

Thanks for the update!  It sounds as though everything went as fast as could be from your arrival to surgery.  What have you thought of Dr. Rushapol so far?  I'm in the process of sending the requisite series of photos for evaluation.

Wow, eight hours in surgery?  No wonder you are in the shape you are in!  I've heard from so many people that BA is more painful than just about anything, and you have now confirmed this.

Wishing you a better appetite and more appreciative digestive track!  Please keep the updates coming.

All best,
Robyn

Hi Robyn,
in answer to Rushapol question, he is a VERY dedicated and good surgeon in my understanding. He is not talking money, but has VERY clear ideas of what ought to be done. Has very high standard of beauty, and most dedicated as I said. Still young at 43. Yes, BA is more sore, at least initially than is  SRS - but SRS be sore for longer (I think).
Greetings,
Axélle

Axelle,

I am so happy your are recovering fast:) The submuscular implants hurt because the muscle has been stretched and it takes a few weeks until it expands. Once it expands the pain will go away:) But remember you get the best from BA with a submuscular positioning and silicone.
I am very, very happy for you. And don't you even dear to look at your face now, the swelling and the bruising  will make you go insane.

Love you,

Anna

Quote from: swan on July 21, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
Axelle,

I am so happy your are recovering fast:) The submuscular implants hurt because the muscle has been stretched and it takes a few weeks until it expands. Once it expands the pain will go away:) But remember you get the best from BA with a submuscular positioning and silicone.
I am very, very happy for you. And don't you even dear to look at your face now, the swelling and the bruising  will make you go insane.

Love you,

Anna

Oh thank you Anna, so much attention for an old girl... but it is nice to read caring words. Just spoke to Helen and her Filipino colleague. Very caring also, trying to find out how I am doing.

They also confirmed Robyn's enquiry. Helen is a South African.

I am now on 2 - 3 pain tablets at day (after meals) and feeling quite a LOT better.
You all take care,
Axélle

Quote from: wendy on July 21, 2012, 07:59:09 PM
Axelle,

You are one brave lady!

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

You will enjoy new attention.

Hi-hi, sounds like a nice horoscope, thank you!  :D
Axx
PS: and as the pain recedes I feel it was the right decision too. Love my new noobies, just too cute. No need for any bra, just fine i.e. NOT in the way either!  :angel:

I have been PIH and Dr S is really nice and reassuring in his practice with his staff absolutely amazing.
My Operation was only the start of my journey having my adams apple shaved off and what a great job they did.

Next up for me is a full facial too and aim to do that around Novemeber next year at PIH also.

Good look with your Op Sister and it would be great to see a new photo of you on the board when you are ready.

Kisses x

Thanks, Axelle, for the great updates!  I get the feeling that you are feeling much better than during the first post-op ICU hours.  May everything continue going nowhere but up!

Robyn

Quote from: msrobyn-alice on July 22, 2012, 05:09:08 AM
Thanks, Axelle, for the great updates!  I get the feeling that you are feeling much better than during the first post-op ICU hours.  May everything continue going nowhere but up!

Robyn

Well, first hour(s) after anaesthetic are never good really. Then I woke up in ICU and was not sure if there was some added problem...? Turned out it was because of the long time of the op, a precaution as I was told.
Now I'm only feeling pale and clammy, aircon, humidity, off and on, and I think it can be because I have not had any E for over two weeks?
I rather go back on E that putting blood coagualting chemicals in my IV... am I being to mindful? E is supposed to up coag factor, and now they want my BA leaking to slow down. Not that it is bad, but they want to send me home tomorrow. Also here, not many nurses understand much English - one needs to be kind and patient to get one's point across.

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 22, 2012, 05:35:26 AM
Well, first hour(s) after anaesthetic are never good really. Then I woke up in ICU and was not sure if there was some added problem...? Turned out it was because of the long time of the op, a precaution as I was told.
Now I'm only feeling pale and clammy, aircon, humidity, off and on, and I think it can be because I have not had any E for over two weeks?
I rather go back on E that putting blood coagualting chemicals in my IV... am I being to mindful? E is supposed to up coag factor, and now they want my BA leaking to slow down. Not that it is bad, but they want to send me home tomorrow. Also here, not many nurses understand much English - one needs to be kind and patient to get one's point across.

Axélle

Axelle good to see you writing!  I could open my mount about 1/4 inch but was hungry and ate pancakes and scambled eggs second day after surgery.  Are you starting to eat?  Food helps you heal.   Do they use head garments for compression?  Do your doctors make you do massages in one week?

Hope you get better soon!

Quote from: wendy on July 22, 2012, 11:17:15 AM
Axelle good to see you writing!  I could open my mount about 1/4 inch but was hungry and ate pancakes and scambled eggs second day after surgery.  Are you starting to eat?  Food helps you heal.   Do they use head garments for compression?  Do your doctors make you do massages in one week?

Hope you get better soon!

Can/could open mouth right after surgery to fit in a grape that be 1/2" right?
Surgeon discussed with me not to take off too much chin for aesthetic reasons, so not to look like some birth-defect, fleeting chin... and so I ought to have smallish scar under the chin, and not 3 days liquid food to follow, for much longer scar inside mouth and lots more swelling. I agreed with his assessment. My appetite has returned. I could eat without vomiting after morphine in IV was stopped. Now waiting to have some Thai breakfast (I hope).

Got no compression head-garment but am all plastered up with surgical tape, having now 7 tubes running out of me. One each side of temple area, one smaller one from chin, and one for each breast. All are connected to 'vacuum baubles' size of apples sucking blood out, catheter for urin, plus Antibiotic IV.
Spend 1/2 day/night in ICU hocked up to 101 ECG wires and what not...

No idea about massages, I will hear today my 3rd full day in PIH.
I sure being filled with all sorts of juices, blood thickening, saline solution, with morphine first 2 days, antibiotics, and now 3 x 1 1/2 pain tablets per day. Just so to give you guys some idea...
The blood thickening is to stop leaking from wounds I'm told...

Today I may be allowed to walk, get out of bed, not possible with all the tubes and baubles hanging from me like some weird Xmas tree. Eish!

Anyone still consider this to be 'fun'? Well not me this morning. Did sleep very little almost none, starting to stink of all this stuff they put into me. Now I'm waiting for morning quick wash by nurses.

Ciao for now,
Axélle
PS: Thai breakfast = American breakfast for all I can see, eish, eish.

Quote from: Axélle on July 22, 2012, 07:29:22 PM
Can/could open mouth right after surgery to fit in a grape that be 1/2" right?
Surgeon discussed with me not to take off too much chin for aesthetic reasons, so not to look like some birth-defect, fleeting chin... and so I ought to have smallish scar under the chin, and not 3 days liquid food to follow, for much longer scar inside mouth and lots more swelling. I agreed with his assessment. My appetite has returned. I could eat without vomiting after morphine in IV was stopped. Now waiting to have some Thai breakfast (I hope).

Got no compression head-garment but am all plastered up with surgical tape, having now 7 tubes running out of me. One each side of temple area, one smaller one from chin, and one for each breast. All are connected to 'vacuum baubles' size of apples sucking blood out, catheter for urin, plus Antibiotic IV.
Spend 1/2 day/night in ICU hocked up to 101 ECG wires and what not...

No idea about massages, I will hear today my 3rd full day in PIH.
I sure being filled with all sorts of juices, blood thickening, saline solution, with morphine first 2 days, antibiotics, and now 3 x 1 1/2 pain tablets per day. Just so to give you guys some idea...
The blood thickening is to stop leaking from wounds I'm told...

Today I may be allowed to walk, get out of bed, not possible with all the tubes and baubles hanging from me like some weird Xmas tree. Eish!

Anyone still consider this to be 'fun'? Well not me this morning. Did sleep very little almost none, starting to stink of all this stuff they put into me. Now I'm waiting for morning quick wash by nurses.

Ciao for now,
Axélle
PS: Thai breakfast = American breakfast for all I can see, eish, eish.

Axelle you told me it is very little doctors shave off in surgeries.  I am sure Doctor shaved very little of your chin but it will look different in mirror. 

I was hungry after a few days and had to push food into mouth and swallow.  I enjoyed walking after a week but had to keep it short or my chin swelled up.  First week was worst.  Then it got better each week.  Now you can tell us which hurts more FFS or SRS.

I could not chew for two weeks but I was hungry and never vomited.  What are Thai meals for patients? My face looked like a chipmunk for a week but it did look different.  I liked many of changes and it took many months for healing.

Seems like you are doing better than most patients.  Hope you packed a Knob Kerry to beat off guys!

Take care!

Axélle
Which pain is the worst...? (Maybe to look fugly as a woman? see further down...)
My experience was the first 2 - 3 hours post-op BA was worst. Like a diesel locomotive hit me in the chest full on. This is for sub-muscular implant placement though.
Above muscle (sub-glandular) is not so bad I'm told, but will sag after 3 – 4 years and not look too good, surgeon speak. Mine essentially refuses to still do it, due to too many comebacks and redo requests.
Then the first 20 - 30 min of 3rd SRS op was even worse due to young nurse not finding urethra exit, a room neighbour had no pain AT all from the same op! It was no problem for Dr Sanguan to find it, as he would know of course :)
I screamed in room like pig to the slaughter with the nurse fumbling about. The urethra is VERY touchy post op.
For me by far the least pain was FFS - remember I have not had lower blepharoplasty and forehead-lift and contouring, so I cannot speak for those ops. Trachea shave and neck lift I'm told is no to little pain really.
I am VERY VERY glad NOT to have done SRS with BA... you need to be VERY strong to do it, in my experience.

Axélle
PS: just now had all plaster/tape removed, and suction tubes coming out with a slurp, and an ouch! Boobs and face. Boobs look fine... swollen not an issue there, or?

Face... "Chinese chipmunk", oh heck at least it seems "normal" - the chipmunk" bit... Chinese eye fold (on the sides) that looks odd and I will have to ask the doc if we need some more work... not that I'd be looking forward to it. I'll keep you post.
Axx

Fortsetzung...
Right now having come out of my plasters etc. I look like a fat and fugly milk maid, with big tits, a red face, add some scars and no makeup to change the very fact of it all. I seem to be adding weight where ever I but my ass these days. Getting loaded up with Antibiotics like a meat bull doesn't help I guess... Funny enough... I almost don't care! Fugly Axélle, a new girl experience?
I looked better by a mile and then some, on my avatar you see.

The flattened chin makes my face look fatter even to boot... add a red-hot blotchy face. And I'm now being checked out second to none, just went shopping for food at the Big-C Thai supermarket, after being taken to the 'cleaners' by the hospital and told my 3 day time was up after having spent 50% more than on SRS last year, which gave me a 2 week stay! Life in the trans-lane... so I just eat some more comfort food, girl style?
Humph,
Axélle

Hi Axelle,

And thank you for the continuing reports from the front line  :).  You are a real help to all of us, and I just hope this continuing chatter helps distract you from the soreness and pain.

I just received my own FFS estimate from Dr. Rushapol based on a series of photos.  He doesn't call for the works, but it's close --

     -- forehead countouring and life
     -- lower face and neck lift
     -- lower blepharoplasty
     -- open reduction rhinoplasty
     -- chin implant

Altogether that's just under $20,000 USD, which is still a relative bargain as these things go.  Suporn's estimate for essentially the same work was $8,000 higher, although I must admit that the analysis and recommendations from Suporn went on in much greater detail.  I'll be in the US for a month starting next week and have consults with all three of the Philadelphia area GCS/FFS surgeons, so it will be interesting to see what their recommendations are when they have me in 3D splendor.  Of one thing I'm certain:  the prices will be higher.

Hoping you are up and about soon,
Robyn

Wow, Axelle, I just saw this thread. Huge congrats! I hope your recovery goes easy and quick.

I don't think you are really supposed to be pretty right now. I certainly wasn't after my facial surgery. Swollen and shattered more like. But, ya, facial surgery didn't seem all that bad except for the throwing up the first couple nights. I think they like kicking you out of hospital quick just 'cause people don't heal that well in that environment - noisy and horrible lights and smells and bleh. So if you don't absolutely HAVE to be there... I only spent one night in hospital when I had my face done, thankfully.

Take care of yourself, hun. And get well! :)

Thanks Sarah and Robyn,
You really made me feel better for reading your feedback.
Sarah, I hear what you say that healing will be better being out of hospital. I will take that to heart; have in anyway come back to the old knowing not to feel like 'victim'. If so short post-op and still on loads of medication one can get sucked into negative mood, and looking into the mirror, seeing Chinese chipmunk looking back at you ... not so much help either. Being on my own... well, there is added time for reflection too; for better or for worse. So I decided to go for better. Your words did help - you been there too, so it makes even more sense.

Robyn,
I think Dr Rushapol is good - BUT he wants us to take the FULL enchilada, I had to do some cost cutting, budgeting, as I decided on BA also and forego forehead contouring/lift and lower blepharoplasty. He agreed to it fine, but as soon as I mentioned small dissatisfaction with newly noticeable eye fold post-op he came back to his original suggestion would have taken care of this... am not in agreement here, as eye fold on each side is still within is operating perimeter/sutures/cut. I hope we can touch up if still present after swelling with local and not more general anaesthetic.
Also, one must bear in mind their 'small print'. They did ECG as always, then anaesthetist decided to send cardiologist to talk to me (assess me). No one explained exactly why, but my ticker was of some concern, obviously, as I had by-pass op 3 years back. He only said I should take again aspirin or better PLAVIX and then left. THAT cost extra TB 1000. For a small-take-it-or-leave-it labiaplasty touch-up, suggested cost (email) Euro 945,00 all of the sudden I was referred to their website cost of US$ 1500.00 and once I had the op = NOTHING IS NEGOTIABLE. They're tough and want to be paid. Period.
In any case, it's no good to plead poverty so best not fall into 'victim-status'. They DO NOT GO FOR IT, not Asian I guess? Make VERY sure what you have done EXACTLY! and what will be charged, so you know up front.
Otherwise you may get some unpleasant surprises like I have had. It is more upsetting if more vulnerable and touchy post op.

Thank you to all of you for the kind words of wisdom and support - it means a LOT in these hours :)
Very, very light hug,
Axélle

Quote from: msrobyn-alice on July 23, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
Hi Axelle,

And thank you for the continuing reports from the front line  :).  You are a real help to all of us, and I just hope this continuing chatter helps distract you from the soreness and pain.

I just received my own FFS estimate from Dr. Rushapol based on a series of photos.  He doesn't call for the works, but it's close --

     -- forehead countouring and life
     -- lower face and neck lift
     -- lower blepharoplasty
     -- open reduction rhinoplasty
     -- chin implant

Altogether that's just under $20,000 USD, which is still a relative bargain as these things go.  Suporn's estimate for essentially the same work was $8,000 higher, although I must admit that the analysis and recommendations from Suporn went on in much greater detail.  I'll be in the US for a month starting next week and have consults with all three of the Philadelphia area GCS/FFS surgeons, so it will be interesting to see what their recommendations are when they have me in 3D splendor.  Of one thing I'm certain:  the prices will be higher.

Hoping you are up and about soon,
Robyn

I basically had the same things you are getting with Spiegel for 20k as well, interesting how thai surgeons keep raising their prices

I hope you are doing well, Axelle.

Quote from: elle2011 on July 24, 2012, 04:05:02 AM
I basically had the same things you are getting with Spiegel for 20k as well, interesting how Thai surgeons keep raising their prices

Well, so they now also want to each drive their fancy 4x4s and enjoy "commensurate life-styles". Patients everywhere seem a commodity to be utilized, and Thailand is catching up too. Sorry if that sounds a tad cynical, but SA had been doing it also the last few years with the privatization of hospitals, and the big time money making of health care providers having just become yet another money spinner but for the one to foot the monthly payments. Quite a difference I perceived from last year September and now in Phuket as well...

Nothing ever seems to stay the same, doesn't it? Not even my face... ;)

Axélle

Axelle,

I am glad your surgeries went smooth without any serious complications. It is very early to judge the results, as it take months before you can see the final results from the surgery.
And YES the medicine is nothing but a business and it is all about the money. Those doctors want even talk to you if you don't have the money to pay for the consultation. That is why we should keep our communication with the doctors very professional, seeing them as people who were paid by us to do their work. And of course as payers we are in charge of the situation.
On the other hand the doctors like to pretend that they are saviours and they have helped us, which is not true because they are only helping themselves financially. Remember that it will take about 2- 3 weeks before your face starts looking "normal" after the facelift, and about 6 months before you see the final results.

Love you,

Anna

Quote from: swan on July 24, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
Axelle,

I am glad your surgeries went smooth without any serious complications. It is very early to judge the results, as it take months before you can see the final results from the surgery.
And YES the medicine is nothing but a business and it is all about the money. Those doctors want even talk to you if you don't have the money to pay for the consultation. That is why we should keep our communication with the doctors very professional, seeing them as people who were paid by us to do their work. And of course as payers we are in charge of the situation.
On the other hand the doctors like to pretend that they are saviours and they have helped us, which is not true because they are only helping themselves financially. Remember that it will take about 2- 3 weeks before your face starts looking "normal" after the facelift, and about 6 months before you see the final results.

Love you,

Anna

Thanks again Anna, it's just so good to read a rational take and sensible reply in the morning when on one's own in a quite hotel room - only interuped by a rooster doing his morning action, and me wondering who's looking back at me from the mirror...
FFS post-op is something to get a grip on... no question.
Very light hug, hi-hi,
Axélle
PS: boobs are now the size of ??? HUGE! (38C)... and this shall pass too, says the Dairy Maid eh?

First post-op 'inspection' this morning at 9:30am; not expecting much from it really.

Thai people look like porcelain made but very sure are NOT. I experience them pretty hard-headed these days, or call it "non-negotiable" - I do like to negotiate, see? ;)

Axx

Hi Axelle,

Never mistake a seemingly gentle disposition with not being hard nosed business people. Asian people are some of the hardest negotiators I have come across.

You seem to be coming along well. What's your timetable now?

How are the boobies?

Hugs

Cindy

Will fly back next Friday, boobs? What boobs? :) Ah, oh well 38C, no pain just - there now :)

Hug,
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 26, 2012, 04:38:19 AM
Will fly back next Friday, boobs? What boobs? :) Ah, oh well 38C, no pain just - there now :)

Hug,
Axélle

Anything to declare Miss?

Yes these 38 C's, you need to examine them big boy?

Giggle, giggle, ... I want a VAT return for them please!

"Sir, now may I see the goods please?!"

These girls ARE quite expensive, from SiliMed (SillyMed?) - anatomical cohesive silicone 20646-315HI , yes HI for "High" sweetie, and come with serial numbers, registration stickers, non-flammable?! Wow!? and for each one a separate manual, no less! Now turn on the heat, and say no more. :o

OK, maybe I'll just write off the VAT after all ;)

Axélle

Dear Axelle,

Let's just hope you don't need an import license!  In the US, at least, Internal Revenue has ruled that all transition-related expenses are tax deductible.  That makes up a bit for the sting that most insurance plans still exclude coverage.

Best,
Robyn

Dear Ms. Hollywood,

Wow back to South Africa in one week.   Border patrol will think you are a celebrity.

Have you been able to take small walks?  Remember it takes three months for neck to not be chipmunk in morning.  Do you wear a compression garment and have to do multiple massages each day?  Anti inflammatory drugs help when doctors allow you to take them.

Hope your feeling much better and are happy with results!

Quote from: wendy on July 27, 2012, 10:24:21 AM
Dear Ms. Hollywood,

Wow back to South Africa in one week.   Border patrol will think you are a celebrity.

Have you been able to take small walks?  Remember it takes three months for neck to not be chipmunk in morning.  Do you wear a compression garment and have to do multiple massages each day?  Anti inflammatory drugs help when doctors allow you to take them.

Hope your feeling much better and are happy with results!

Hi Wendy, Robyn,
I WILL have issues getting back in - I know. I have 'local ID' saying male with old picture, waited over 10 month for new one since. They say I must present my invoices as there is also the different name. Then the up to date German passport. Maybe they'll think I'm new Mata Hari? see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari)

I have a compression bandage but it is simply too hot to put on during the day, also I go for small walks every day, but it's still 32 deg C and humidity ~ 80%. Then going into any shopping centre will chill you to the bone - not so good, unless temp. cycling will be good thing for the face?
Still on anti-inflamatory and anti-biotis until MON. More antibiotics to go after that... Will see pussy surgeon on TUE and face surgeon early FRI before my departure.
Wearing sports bra during night to keep things 'in place'. Otherwise just rying to pass time without eating all the time.
Hugs, can work already :)
Axélle

So Miss Hollywood,
What is your impression of the surgical results? Are you happy?

Axelle is going to be soooo "Hollywood" now, she will have sunglasses on her chest.

Quote from: swan on July 27, 2012, 08:38:55 PM
So Miss Hollywood,
What is your impression of the surgical results? Are you happy?

Boobs fine, really fine from the word go. Face is feeling better by the day, having still some chipmunk look and feel though. I did opt out of forehead contouring & lift and lower blepharoplasty you may recall.
The neck and face will be fine as I can see, and I'm not sure at this stage, to go for any more surgery for forehead and eyes. As I said, 8 hours is a long time to be 'under'... and I had that now twice since last Sept.
Labiaplasty ... well I had my first orgasms in my SLEEP still in hospital - and all feels jolly good. Less inner labia material to get all stuck together as happened before, keyword: pussy farts. No more, - so that also was a good decision to have done.
There you go :)
Axélle

I went for 1 hour+ walk today in pre-midday heat. Just following my nose, I found a quite long walk along a channel that at one stage must have been designated by the town council of this area as a recreational walk, with loads of metal stuff (now dilapidated and rusted) along the channel, and tiles, what seem like Chinese star-signs, let into the side walk for quite some kilometres on either side of the channel walk. At least there are some trees so not all is in the blazing sun...
It was ½ hours walk, seeing only one car right at the start where cars are still allowed, then one scooter, the man on the scooter turning and asking me if I wanted a lift, and also once I said I was walking for health, he asked where I came from. All seemed save enough, though I would NEVER go there after dark! NEVER!
There are no street lights, but it is a jolly nice walk with clean cemented surface, both sides of the channel.
It is not easy to find any area with low traffic to walk here, and the sidewalks are there as some kind of second thought and often quite treacherous to negotiate. All transport is by scooter or car and walking seems sooooo - not the done thing.

Coming back just before midday I was bathed in sweat, it seems to take the better part of AT LEAST two weeks to acclimatise and perspire less.
The locals do NO SEEMS TO SWEAT - at all, not that I have noticed in any case.

Looking from my hotel balcony I see Thai men building what seems a VERY accomplished, large and beautiful looking swimming pool. All done in the heat of the day, though covered by some huge sheets of plastic semi-transparent foil. It would surely kill me just to simply hang-ten under it, never mind doing ANY sort of physical work.

These just some short impressions whilst I try to forget about my chipmunk face, and neck – and constantly existing in some sort of a sweat.
Running the air-con all night through, though set at 25 deg. C --  I'm waking up once or twice during the night to have some drink of water and going for a pee.

The café I sitting in now, typing these lines used to be quite regularly frequented by SRS post-op patients from the next door hospital, when I was here last year.
I have not noticed one single such patient this time, also the private ward up on the 5th floor at PIH seems pretty quiet, and I only saw local folks male and female – a VERY different picture to last year's when during my 3 week stay I met at least 7 – 8 Trans folks there for various surgeries.

So... for better or for worse I feel pretty much 'stealth' right next door to the hospital, and the young guy at the café even enquiring if I was here for the island tour...?!? :)

Am I passing – like that? Chipmunk looks and all? I do get the usual number of stares when I go shopping for food though. Some go to my boobs, but more to my face – hard to tell what that's all about other than being clocked. Funny thing is, IT DOES NOT MATTER. Why? 'Cause I cannot change a thing about it, see :)

OK, now I'll go and have to organise a small dinner after having pigged out for lunch earlier on – again!
Axélle

First, thanks a lot for writing about your experience regarding surgery in Thailand. I wish you all the best with your ongoing recovery!  :)

My mother hails from Thailand, in her younger years before she met my father she lived in Bangkok and Phuket region as well. Unlike me (I'm only half Thai), she does not have problems with hot temperatures or sweating. But she hates winter, which I usually have no problem with at all.   :D

Quote from: Axélle on July 28, 2012, 05:23:44 AM
I went for 1 hour+ walk today in pre-midday heat. ....

Am I passing – like that? Chipmunk looks and all? I do get the usual number of stares when I go shopping for food though. Some go to my boobs, but more to my face – hard to tell what that's all about other than being clocked. Funny thing is, IT DOES NOT MATTER. Why? 'Cause I cannot change a thing about it, see :)

OK, now I'll go and have to organise a small dinner after having pigged out for lunch earlier on – again!
Axélle

Mrs. Hollywood you passed before.  Why would you think you do not pass as a chipmunk?  Girls get facial surgery.  Guys like to look at girl's boobies so that  they will look at your face and boobs.  That is what they do.  No less are you passing you are being checked out. 

Walking is real good to help get blood flowing and recover faster.  I could not walk without my chin garment for three months.  My face swelled almost immediately if I took it off.

Also eating good food also helps in recovery.  It took weeks to get about half an inch opening in my mouth.  I was hungry and ate good food but could not chew.  Are you able to open jaw and chew?  Seems many surgeons create less trauma then fellow in Chicago.  I feel fine but I am still healing at 8 months.  Maybe you will heal faster.  At three months you will look in mirror and say who is hot babe.  Do you not have to do massages three times a day?

Do remember plastic surgery is rather addictive.   Your rich 40 year old South African Danish husband will send you back next year for more surgery.  You are so girly.  :)

You will be fine with the anesthesia don't worry about it. Can't they do the forehead and the eyes under local anesthesia?

Quote from: swan on July 28, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
You will be fine with the anesthesia don't worry about it. Can't they do the forehead and the eyes under local anesthesia?

Doctors can give smaller time for second anesthesia.  I had two weeks between second anesthesia; however, I slept for three months after second.

Forehead and eyes are not local.  Doctor does not want you moving around while they cut forehead and eyes.

Maybe of interest to note, I had considered BA to with FFS, also forehead lift/contouring and lower blepharoplasty.
Dr Rushapol did not agree to do it all in one, clearly declined that.

Once I had decided to leave forehead etc. he told me now we CAN do BA, which then was what was done.
Looking at 8 hours surgery from 3pm to 11pm gives some idea of the extend of time needed.
Labiaplasty happened along the way and was done by Dr Sanguan during this time. (US$ 1500.00 by the way)

I have hardly issues with opening my jaw... of course I be badly challenges to give good ->-bleeped-<-, he-he. But that is NOT of a major concern right now - if it ever was?
Swelling also is not too big an issue, but cheek and jowl area as well as along underneath jawline is slightly puffy and numb as if under permanent local anaesthetic - the chipmunk 'thing'.
Also area across the trachea where the neck lift was applied feels tight but hardly numb. All skin was pulled to the back of the neck area where I have two 4 finger long cuts in the hairline left and right, where excess skin was taken away.
TUE I will have sutures removed from labiaplasty, FRI facelift check-up.
I was told that there be no suture 'spitting' with the method that Dr Rushapol has used. - We shall see in due time, eh?
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 28, 2012, 09:21:52 PM
Maybe of interest to note, I had considered BA to with FFS, also forehead lift/contouring and lower blepharoplasty.
Dr Rushapol did not agree to do it all in one, clearly declined that.

Once I had decided to leave forehead etc. he told me now we CAN do BA, which then was what was done.
Looking at 8 hours surgery from 3pm to 11pm gives some idea of the extend of time needed.
Labiaplasty happened along the way and was done by Dr Sanguan during this time. (US$ 1500.00 by the way)

I have hardly issues with opening my jaw... of course I be badly challenges to give good ->-bleeped-<-, he-he. But that is NOT of a major concern right now - if it ever was?
Swelling also is not too big an issue, but cheek and jowl area as well as along underneath jawline is slightly puffy and numb as if under permanent local anaesthetic - the chipmunk 'thing'.
Also area across the trachea where the neck lift was applied feels tight but hardly numb. All skin was pulled to the back of the neck area where I have two 4 finger long cuts in the hairline left and right, where excess skin was taken away.
TUE I will have sutures removed from labiaplasty, FRI facelift check-up.
I was told that there be no suture 'spitting' with the method that Dr Rushapol has used. - We shall see in due time, eh?
Axélle

I think your 40 year old rich Danish husband will be satisfied with good.  If you get too good you will be collecting on his life insurance policy.

Chin and under chin is still slightly numb at 8 months.  Expect full feeling to return in about one year.  Appears Rushapol creates less trauma than Z.  Insert was done through lower aureola and still hurts.  How did Rushapol do inserts?

Does Sanguan frequently need three procedures?  What is difference in his second procedure from third?  Why did he wait one week to do second from first?  Is third procedure used to make things more pleasurable?

Are you taking low amount of pain meds?

Hope you continue to heal quickly!

Quote from: wendy on July 29, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
... Danish husband will be satisfied with good ...

The oracle of Atlanta, or was it Atlantis? :)

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Chin and under chin is still slightly numb at 8 months.  Expect full feeling to return in about one year.  Appears Rushapol creates less trauma than Z.

It could well be, - but then I have had none of Dr Z's procedures.
I have to mention though, that I freely and friendly related to him how older and highly experienced plastic surgeons get "God like complex" and not seem to listen to patients, but rather their own inner voices exclusively. Like: "I know best..." - it seemed to reach him, he made big eyes at me.
He promised he would recall what I had told him. We had a pretty long conversation on star-signs, him being Aries with Pieces ascendant, my being Gemini with Aries ascendant and even some more details. I was feeling he had just a little crush on this here old girl, though I'm not fool enough to show ;)

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Insert was done through lower aureola and still hurts.  How did Rushapol do inserts?

He explained in great detail why he chooses cohesive silicone (SiliMed) implants and also much favours anatomical shape, given our usually broad chests. Says saline had too many comeback issues and he stopped using those. Due to size and width of anatomical implant he chooses under breast ~2" incisions and he also explains that it heals best in his experience, and that under arm is not really suitable for anatomical implant shape/placement. Aureola option I mentioned also, he did not consider it for his work, being too painful and also had issues with healing he mentioned, as I recall.
I have no issues of 'jumping-jack' breast behaviour when using my pecs and in deed I have no pain using pecs at all after 1 week healing. It seems to confirm his preferences for his BA procedure. They have literally done 1000s by now in PAIC.
Whenever I sit in the PIAC (Phuket International Aesthetic Centre) waiting area there are English, and a lot of Aussie women waiting for BA consultation and having their chests marked up :) More than 80% is BA work I'm told.

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Does Sanguan frequently need three procedures? 

He actually has two procedures. The first is the main one, doing all the surgery, but for placement of the vj-lining which he prefers to do as a second op about 7 - 8 days after main op. In between he puts you under for about 20min only, to replace packing and to verify that no 'leaks' would need attention (cauterizing...) before having the vj-lining sutured into place.
(vj-lining made from one's scrotum skin kept in refrigeration and rendered hair-follicle-free before being inserted).

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What is difference in his second procedure from third?  Why did he wait one week to do second from first?  Is third procedure used to make things more pleasurable?

After first and main procedure, the vj packing is placed inside vj-channel with vacuum pack (constant vacuum into collecting vessel ), where rate of bleeding is monitored.
After 3 - 4 days leaking normally stops pretty much, the time when he replaces the packing. The vacuum pack is once again connected for about 3 more days. He decides on final op date also based on leaking of body fluids from vj-channel. Again the final op is pretty short, about 1.5 - 2 hours max. ; when he fits the vj-lining.
This procedure allows 2 weeks full time care in hospital after which he personally removes final vj-packing on your bed side and shows you how to dilate. Dilating is NOT painful by then, I have asked other women also. He hands over a set of #1 - #6 dilators and one can, well I could, go up to #6 after one day dilating; 3 times a day 20 - 30 min.
One woman had asked for #7 dilators :) I have now asked same and got #8!!!  still awaiting THAT test... I have to wait 7 days after labiaplasty i.e. after removal of sutures.

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Are you taking low amount of pain meds?

I am prescribed 4 Codigestic (Paracetamol) / day. I take it really more for added anti-inflammatory as I'm practically pain-free.

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Hope you continue to heal quickly!

Thank you...! After reading about Mandy's ordeal, I'm so rattled to read about!!!

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 29, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
It could well be, - but then I have had none of Dr Z's procedures.
I have to mention though, that I freely and friendly related to him how older and highly experienced plastic surgeons get "God like complex" and not seem to listen to patients, but rather their own inner voices exclusively. Like: "I know best..." - it seemed to reach him, he made big eyes at me.
He promised he would recall what I had told him. We had a pretty long conversation on star-signs, him being Aries with Pieces ascendant, my being Gemini with Aries ascendant and even some more details. I was feeling he had just a little crush on this here old girl, though I'm not fool enough to show ;)

He explained in great detail why he chooses cohesive silicone (SiliMed) implants and also much favours anatomical shape, given our usually broad chests. Says saline had too many comeback issues and he stopped using those. Due to size and width of anatomical implant he chooses under breast ~2" incisions and he also explains that it heals best in his experience, and that under arm is not really suitable for anatomical implant shape/placement. Aureola option I mentioned also, he did not consider it for his work, being too painful and also had issues with healing he mentioned, as I recall.
I have no issues of 'jumping-jack' breast behaviour when using my pecs and in deed I have no pain using pecs at all after 1 week healing. It seems to confirm his preferences for his BA procedure. They have literally done 1000s by now in PAIC.
Whenever I sit in the PIAC (Phuket International Aesthetic Centre) waiting area there are English, and a lot of Aussie women waiting for BA consultation and having their chests marked up :) More than 80% is BA work I'm told.
Axélle

I've read that Zodiac has been modified from twelve to thirteen symbols.  That moved me from Pisces to Aquarius.  That probably explains why I swim backwards.

Quote from: Axélle on July 29, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
He actually has two procedures. The first is the main one, doing all the surgery, but for placement of the vj-lining which he prefers to do as a second op about 7 - 8 days after main op. In between he puts you under for about 20min only, to replace packing and to verify that no 'leaks' would need attention (cauterizing...) before having the vj-lining sutured into place.
(vj-lining made from one's scrotum skin kept in refrigeration and rendered hair-follicle-free before being inserted).

After first and main procedure, the vj packing is placed inside vj-channel with vacuum pack (constant vacuum into collecting vessel ), where rate of bleeding is monitored.
After 3 - 4 days leaking normally stops pretty much, the time when he replaces the packing. The vacuum pack is once again connected for about 3 more days. He decides on final op date also based on leaking of body fluids from vj-channel. Again the final op is pretty short, about 1.5 - 2 hours max. ; when he fits the vj-lining.
This procedure allows 2 weeks full time care in hospital after which he personally removes final vj-packing on your bed side and shows you how to dilate. Dilating is NOT painful by then, I have asked other women also. He hands over a set of #1 - #6 dilators and one can, well I could, go up to #6 after one day dilating; 3 times a day 20 - 30 min.
One woman had asked for #7 dilators :) I have now asked same and got #8!!!

What is number 8?  Is that 1.5 inches?

We are now revising your hubby from 40 years old to 35 years old with an attached number 8 that is 5 inches long and he does it three times a day for 30 minutes each.  Maybe you need to be a cougar?  :)

I think you are planning on having a lot of fun in South Africa!  Glad you seem to be doing well.

# 8 ... ? = 1 3/4" and 7" long ... but hey, no need to take it all in. ::)

Might just pull the remaining wrinkles out of my face? ... sounds frivolous ... the way some of us keep looking so young? Go figure.

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on July 31, 2012, 04:10:59 AM
# 8 ... ? = 1 3/4" and 7" long ... but hey, no need to take it all in. ::)

Might just pull the remaining wrinkles out of my face? ... sounds frivolous ... the way some of us keep looking so young? Go figure.

Axélle

Mrs. Hollywood I think most anesthesiologists want two weeks between anesthesia.   Probably need at least one week?  What did doctor say?  Do you want to stay a little longer?  Is your health O.K. for more procedures?

Probably need to wait for your 30 year old husband to send you back next year.

Told you plastic surgery is addictive... especially when we are older.... and we get to look younger.  Be careful.

Oh, didn't I mention that I had enough for now?
NO WAY would I want to wake up yet again and throw up etc. etc.
Also to KNOW that it is addictive is something to bear in mind. If I find a suitor that has a problem with my waist --- and forehead --- and wants me to be more pretty for him... well... maybe LOVE conquers all? Right now? NO THANK YOU  :D
Hug,
Axélle

Thank you for the continuing updates, Axelle, with all the good and the uncomfortable.  I'm in the US now and will be off to Philadelphia on Monday.  It will be interesting to compare and contrast what a U.S. surgeon thinks of my face with the opinions I've gotten from Suporn and Rushapol.


Best from the States!
Robyn

All righty,
I'm back in SA since yesterday morning and all is quite well. Still puffy but it will get sorted given time.
So for now, that is the present conclusion.

Thanks for all your interest in my well-being,
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on August 05, 2012, 01:27:45 AM
All righty,
I'm back in SA since yesterday morning and all is quite well. Still puffy but it will get sorted given time.
So for now, that is the present conclusion.

Thanks for all your interest in my well-being,
Axélle

Glad you are safely home!

Are you back to taking your morning walks?  Remember sun screen on incision areas.... including breasts!  :)

Pool swimming is good exercise too! :)

Keep us posted on your progress!

Quote from: wendy on August 05, 2012, 08:02:03 AM
Glad you are safely home!

Are you back to taking your morning walks?  Remember sun screen on incision areas.... including breasts!  :)

Pool swimming is good exercise too! :)

Keep us posted on your progress!

Yes you are right, I just had that beak-thing for my head and promptly got sunburn on the sides on my face still in Phuket.
It is still winter and cold in SA and for the next month I'm told no exercises by Dr Rushapol; also not massage yet for the next 3 weeks.
Asked about needle rollers he was VERY anti, said it was disproved to work some years back already.

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on August 05, 2012, 08:32:30 AM
Yes you are right, I just had that beak-thing for my head and promptly got sunburn on the sides on my face still in Phuket.
It is still winter and cold in SA and for the next month I'm told no exercises by Dr Rushapol; also not massage yet for the next 3 weeks.
Asked about needle rollers he was VERY anti, said it was disproved to work some years back already.

Axélle

Is no exercise because of private area?  Short walks around your compound are good to get blood flowing and minimize mood swings.  Depression is very common after surgeries and walking helps with mood.

What are needle rollers?  I massaged with my hands and still massage 8 months later.  I recently found a back vibrator is useful under chin.  Maybe a smaller vibrator might work under chin?  My neck is still partially numb.

Are you not wearing a chin strap for face lift?  I wore one for 24 hours a day for first three months.  Only took it off for massages and shower.

Has any of your many local fans said anything about your surgeries?

I am so glad you made it home safely. I wish you a smooth recovery and we are expecting photos of the new you :)

Quote from: wendy on August 05, 2012, 05:14:54 PM
Is no exercise because of private area? 

No, not at all, Dr Rushapol is very concerned about stress to scar tissue, also due to more elevated blood pressure during (strenuous) exercise. Walking is no issue and I have been taking long and sweaty walks already during my stay in Phuket.

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Short walks around your compound are good to get blood flowing and minimize mood swings.  Depression is very common after surgeries and walking helps with mood.

I do agree, it takes a while to get this being close to death thing (anaesthetic) and all those drugs out of our system, and a long brisk walk a day is the best I can think of.

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What are needle rollers? 

http://www.skinmedix.com/Micro-Needle-RollersA.html?gclid=CPnkyfSB0rECFWJItAodbDcA4w (http://www.skinmedix.com/Micro-Needle-RollersA.html?gclid=CPnkyfSB0rECFWJItAodbDcA4w)

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I massaged with my hands and still massage 8 months later.  I recently found a back vibrator is useful under chin.  Maybe a smaller vibrator might work under chin?  My neck is still partially numb.

The area behind the ears/neck it was mentioned by Dr Rushapol will take the longest to regain full, normal feelings. It is NORMAL... for what reason ever. Massage, also for reasons of  least scaring was not to commence before 3 weeks post-op according to him.

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Are you not wearing a chin strap for face lift?  I wore one for 24 hours a day for first three months.  Only took it off for massages and shower.

It seems only of minor importance in his method (drains with vacuum suction for 3 days) I sometimes wear the chin-strap early in the morning when still in bed --- in fact WHEN IT FEELS LIKE IT.
I had asked him about it of course, and he was reasonably dismissive about it all, as in the heat and humidity of Phuket it be almost like some prime torture --- he said he used it early with his FFS cases but then dropped the requirement to: wear as one feels the need...
The same applies to the BA post-op situation. No sutures to remove, hardly visible scars, no need for any pressure bandage, not even a support bra. I'd guess it will of course also depend on the specifics of his patients. I 'only' had 315ml size implants (38B+/C now) which is not really big, yet the best form that he had suggested and it looks and feels good.

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Has any of your many local fans said anything about your surgeries?

Well, its early days yet and I have still some 'chipmunk'. I was told "something looked different...?!?" but all in all it be hardly noticeable on a photo/avatar. My very best guess. Yet ... subtle as it is, it looks good to me. I think the minor chin reduction has to do with it. My ex asked me to turn and show full profile to comment. It's not REALLY noticeable, and very subtle to take in from the front view.

Axélle

Quote from: swan on August 05, 2012, 05:31:09 PM
I am so glad you made it home safely. I wish you a smooth recovery and we are expecting photos of the new you :)

My best guess is the 'new me' be more noticeably from a BA point of view --- and THAT might be a bit 'revealing' ?

38B+ is also not exactly stunning, I was 38~A before BA.

I be surprised if much be noticeable in an avatar and - I have no means or idea on how to paste pics into my posts.

Just another dumb blond, eh  :D
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on August 05, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
My best guess is the 'new me' be more noticeably from a BA point of view --- and THAT might be a bit 'revealing' ?

38B+ is also not exactly stunning, I was 38~A before BA.

I be surprised if much be noticeable in an avatar and - I have no means or idea on how to paste pics into my posts.

Just another dumb blond, eh  :D
Axélle

Upload them to photobucket.com then post a link.

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on August 07, 2012, 10:06:10 AM
Upload them to photobucket.com then post a link.

1. I'm maybe not enough of an exhibitionist?

2. Don't like to start yet another app with photo bucket.

3. At Foxfire Glen it's as simple as loading an avatar at Susans.org.

4. So? ...

5. It is the prerogative of a woman to change her mind...

6. We shall see, hum.

Axélle ::)

Well, according to popular request... one chipmunk, 3 weeks post-op picture loaded.

Talking about standing naked (with cloths) ::)

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on August 13, 2012, 05:10:37 AM
Well, according to popular request... one chipmunk, 3 weeks post-op picture loaded.

Talking about standing naked (with cloths) ::)

Axélle

Wow you look great.  Keep those Kerry Knobs handy!

Someone has to say something to you.  Are they all so polite in South Africa that they will not say anything?

It looks even better in three months as swelling continues to decrease.

What do ladies say in grocery store?

Have you had a chance to go to pool or is it too cold in August?

Did you get your nails done?

OK, let me answer these questions...

Quote from: wendy on August 13, 2012, 06:31:26 PM

Wow you look great.  Keep those Kerry Knobs handy!

Seems I'm very save at my age - sorry to say in some way :)

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Someone has to say something to you.  Are they all so polite in South Africa that they will not say anything?

Nope, nothing, no comments. I was at my first post-op Pilates session last evening and all is business as usual.

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It looks even better in three months as swelling continues to decrease.

As you know...
Yes, I shall look forward to all feeling less puffy and tight - that would include BA. The only comments I actually had, came from my lovely beautician ladies. They are ever so nice. I hope not only due to their jobs...

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What do ladies say in grocery store?

At e.g. P'nP (a favourite :)) they are used to my presence and I had no comments, some looks as usual. I'm pretty used to by now.

I have a notion... the better we pass, the less we seem to be noticed in positive as in negative perceptions. I think it's called 'blending in'?

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Have you had a chance to go to pool or is it too cold in August?

NO WAY!!! I had to fix the leaf-collector, up to my ellbows in the ice-cold water so I know it IS close to freezing. We had snow! just the other day!

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Did you get your nails done?

No, still struggling with weak nails, silky (thin) hair, and loosing... thinking to go back yet again taking Biotin. More girl issues... will they ever end? :)

Axx

Wow Axelle,

Your facelift has been a success so is the chin work. You look younger and more feminine. I can't see all of the details because of the distance the photo has been taken from. The results are great.

Well, thank you once again Swan.
I loaded yet another pic; they were all taken at the same time just with slightly changed (natural) lighting in my study and my 6500 NOKIA cell.

If seen in full resolution you would know why this one also is not exactly a favourite. Wrinkles and looking old can be enhanced by more critical lighting as we all know, I guess.
In any case, since you asked... there you go :)

Axx

Quote from: Axélle on August 15, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
If seen in full resolution you would know why this one also is not exactly a favourite. Wrinkles and looking old can be enhanced by more critical lighting as we all know, I guess.
In any case, since you asked... there you go :)

Axx

O.K. Axelle it is O.K. to brag.  You paid piper and suffered pain and what wrinkles?

I think I would have gone to your surgeon.  I am still healing.  Still hurt and still scabbing.

If you keep getting much younger you "will" need more Kerry Knobs to beat off suitors.

I bet your neighbor is starting to get paranoid because he "finds you attractive".

That is what drives men to total homophobia.  They find t-girls attractive.

I was with a pretty t-girl.  She felt like a girl; she looked like a girl; she acted like a girl.  She found me to be a girl/guy but sexually recessive.  She took lead.  Well I like t-girls.  Guess that may qualify for pansexual.

Axelle open your mind and you will be surprised and very happy!  You are a great catch.

Get your man.   Feel your beauty!

You look 50 and will get a guy that is 60.  Make sure his policy is current and you again be looking... but you will have plenty of cash.  :)  I feel sorry for poor fellow.  You will send fellow back to his maker with a smile!  Make him some of your special meals.

Love,
Keri Wendy

Quote from: Axélle on August 15, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
Well, thank you once again Swan.
I loaded yet another pic; they were all taken at the same time just with slightly changed (natural) lighting in my study and my 6500 NOKIA cell.

If seen in full resolution you would know why this one also is not exactly a favourite. Wrinkles and looking old can be enhanced by more critical lighting as we all know, I guess.
In any case, since you asked... there you go :)

Axx

Let me explain something to you
the facelift only removes the excessive skin and muscle tissue. It doesn't restore the lost volume. The wrinkles are result of lost volume, and dermal fillers or fat grafting would be an ideal option for that. It is not expensive and delivers great results. I have dermal fillers allover my face and i love it.
Your facelift is a real success.

Oh thank you Swan for the detail.
But I'm quite sure to best wait until all has settled before considering a consultation on dermal fillers, yes?
It would not be something like BOTOX, or?

Axélle
PS: Wendy.... funny as ever, eh?  >:-)

Quote from: Axélle on August 15, 2012, 11:49:02 PM
Oh thank you Swan for the detail.
But I'm quite sure to best wait until all has settled before considering a consultation on dermal fillers, yes?
It would not be something like BOTOX, or?

Axélle
PS: Wendy.... funny as ever, eh?  >:-)

Yes, you must wait 3- 6 months. You will see when the swelling is totally gone and do the consultation. I personally dislike botox, it is just cosmetics. 3 months of effect and that is it. And it gives terribly artificial looks. Dermal fillers in the right hands deliver fantastic results. You can also get your eyelids done with dermal fillers, and perhaps your forehead. They are a fantastic in-office painless procedure. 

Quote from: swan on August 16, 2012, 05:09:08 AM
Yes, you must wait 3- 6 months. You will see when the swelling is totally gone and do the consultation. I personally dislike botox, it is just cosmetics. 3 months of effect and that is it. And it gives terribly artificial looks. Dermal fillers in the right hands deliver fantastic results. You can also get your eyelids done with dermal fillers, and perhaps your forehead. They are a fantastic in-office painless procedure.

Can you give me any links so I can take that further in time?
I guess PM be OK, as we do not want any issue with 'advertising' TSO and such... :)

Tnx again,
Axx

Quote from: Axélle on August 15, 2012, 11:49:02 PM
Oh thank you Swan for the detail.
But I'm quite sure to best wait until all has settled before considering a consultation on dermal fillers, yes?
It would not be something like BOTOX, or?

Axélle
PS: Wendy.... funny as ever, eh?  >:-)

I guess you still have swelling and it is better you wait until it is gone before undergoing any other procedure.
Botox is a neurotoxin that paralyses the nerves and smooths out the wrinkles. It is usually used for the forehead and around the eyes. The problem with it is that you are paralyzed in the area where it has been injected and it doesn't look natural at all. The dermal fillers smooth out the wrinkles by restoring the volume lost with aging and you get a totally natural results. They may last from 12 months to lifetime depending on the filler used. The results are 100% natural.

Quote from: swan on August 16, 2012, 09:31:40 AM
I guess you still have swelling and it is better you wait until it is gone before undergoing any other procedure.
Botox is a neurotoxin that paralyses the nerves and smooths out the wrinkles. It is usually used for the forehead and around the eyes. The problem with it is that you are paralyzed in the area where it has been injected and it doesn't look natural at all. The dermal fillers smooth out the wrinkles by restoring the volume lost with aging and you get a totally natural results. They may last from 12 months to lifetime depending on the filler used. The results are 100% natural.

Did some goggling but find lots of... well, ads and all being FANTASTIC, including injectibles...

Any links would be of help - as in deed my beauty-parlour is just introducing some non-injectable products.

Thanks,
Axxx

Look for somebody who specializes in liquid facelift. It doesn't have to be a cosmetic surgeon, it can be dermatologist, GP or even a dentist. It is a very simple procedure and those results are real. It looks great.
Non- injectables can not restore the volume. I think you need injectable one :)

http://www.liquidfacelift.com/ (http://www.liquidfacelift.com/)

here is a quick link

http://www.skinrenewal.co.za/liquid-facelift (http://www.skinrenewal.co.za/liquid-facelift)
http://www.medisculpt.co.za/treatments/liquid_facelift.html (http://www.medisculpt.co.za/treatments/liquid_facelift.html)

two clinics I found in SA. I am sure there are more.

Hi Axelle,

I have committed to doing GCS with Dr. Kunaporn in late January and will perhaps have some limited FFS with Dr. Rushapol depending on my physical condition post-GCS.  Do you have any recommendations re accommodations in Phuket?  Did you travel there through Bangkok or did you fly directly.  In short, I'd be grateful to learn from the expert who has been there twice :)!

Regards from Bucharest,
Robyn

Quote from: msrobyn-alice on September 17, 2012, 04:25:27 AM
Hi Axelle,

I have committed to doing GCS with Dr. Kunaporn in late January and will perhaps have some limited FFS with Dr. Rushapol depending on my physical condition post-GCS.  Do you have any recommendations re accommodations in Phuket?  Did you travel there through Bangkok or did you fly directly.  In short, I'd be grateful to learn from the expert who has been there twice :)!

Regards from Bucharest,
Robyn

Hi Robyn,
Firstly... just my experience... only have GCS/SRS... unless there are some serious issues that would rule that out.
It is quite enough for our system to go through that on its own. That is a recommendation.

Secondly... accommodation is a money issue and also a convenience/lux issue.
I had decided both times to stay right next door at the Baan Suan for Thai Baht 700 (down stairs, no micro, no kitchen sink...) 2nd time upstairs for Baht 800 with micro and sink.
You will not like much "humping" upstairs with a sore fanny, believe me!
BTW, next block from this place is a BIG-C supermarket, plus plenty hawker stands along the road, as well as one small restaurant even offering "room service". Their food comes recommended – just don't ask for hot, as it will be Thai HOT :)

Thirdly... you'll be in PHI for two weeks and one more week required for post-op after care i.e. stay in a hotel.
Do NOT forget!!! to ask to get a letter for a wheel chair transport at the airport. I flew with Thai Air Interl. and was well taken care of --- I would have been in far worse shape without the wheel chair. So don't try to be a super-woman.

I had to fly via Bangkok from Jhb, as hardly any long range interl. flights go direct to Phuket.
KL and Hong Kong have direct flights for all I recall.

Lastly... PHI will provide you with driver transport from and to the airport and AS WELL from and to hotel, if you decide to stay in some more up-market place, closer to a beach.
(I didn't miss it, but that's just me).
PHI has a number of OK deals with some of the better hotels and you can check that out on PIH's web-site.
The Baan Suan is so reasonably priced that they do not allow for any PIH discounts at their rates. It is clean, friendly, and quite OK to stay there for the 3rd week of your sojourn. (My take...)

Please, if you go there say a nice "hello!" from we to Dr Sanguan.

And good luck,
Axélle

Hi Axelle,

Thank you for the suggestions and advice.  I should have thought to look more closely at the hospital's site regarding hotels.  As you say, a number of them are listed.  I'm uncertain about location relative to the hospital, but a little time with Google maps should resolve that.

I'll be in Phuket for a minimum of five weeks, 5-6 if my recovery requires it.  That's why I am able to consider some small level of FFS if my condition warrants.  I've received such conflicting reactions from different people regarding doing GCS and FFS in any proximity to each other that I will have to decide for myself based on my own assessment of myself at the time.  Given that I work for the Foreign Service and am subject to the exigencies of their posting and transfer cycle, the unfortunate news is that this is the only window I will have for any type of surgery for the next several years. 

I'm scheduled for GCS on January 23, and my friend Nadine follows two days later.  I've already made a 20% deposit even though Dr. Sanguan does not require one, so you could say that we are now "locked in."  I'll be sure to pass on your greetings.

Thanks again!
Robyn

OK, I see.

What do you consider "some small level of FFS" I wonder?

The ONLY small level that I'd consider "small" would be chin-reduction... if that is on your agenda. I certainly could see this as not too impeding.

You know the work I had done... and certainly would not have had that together with SRS, and only referring to the FFS part.
In fact if being asked, not even BA! At least not for the first few days...
I can only speak for myself of course, as in my case the first SRS op took about 8 hours..., 3 days later another general anaesthetic quite short though, and thereafter ~ 7 days the last op with yet one more general anaestetic.

My FFS, BA and labiaplasty took just as long, 8 hours...

This just as a reminder. Yes, we all super-women... but hey!  :o
Axélle

Thanks, Axelle.  Believe me, the account of your surgeries and your recovery experiences are very much in my mind and are taken very seriously.  Unfortunately, our assignment and transfer cycle gives me this one window only, so that puts a premium on doing what I can now, physical condition permitting.  After that I don't expect a similar window for another 6-8 years.

And you are a super woman :).

It's been a few months, and I don't know if you, Axelle, or anyone is following this thread.  In any case, I am three weeks back from Phuket after both GCS and FFS.  It was a bit much to do at once, but in the end I came through nicely.  If you are interested in knowing any of the details, I've been writing about the experience in my web journal at http://attitude-analyst.blogspot.com (http://attitude-analyst.blogspot.com).

Regards from Bucharest,
Robyn