As you all may know , I have Mild AIS and low testosterone (199) when the average male has numbers something akin of 550 (on a scale that goes to 950 I think)
Now I was told by a recent internet tg pal that perhaps i should consider just taking estrogen and not any anti-androgens. So they told me this would allow you to keep your southern parts functional.
I don't think that is the route i wanted to take but I was just curious as to what happens if you just take estrogen only.
I am unsure of what would happen but, I would strongly recommend asking a medical professional.
I wouldn't do anything to keep the bottom parts functional, I wish my T level was like 44 or something as someone else on this forum.
yeah and also i understand getting rid of body hair and letting it appear more fine and smaller and white, can't happen without an anti-androgen.
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on October 24, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
yeah and also i understand getting rid of body hair and letting it appear more fine and smaller and white, can't happen without an anti-androgen.
Those changes won't happen till years down the road. Just a suggestion, but you might want to look at the more immediate future.
actually my hair has already started to fade from my body, it is more noticeable after shaving and seeing all the empty spaces.
Quote from: Brooke777 on October 24, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
I am unsure of what would happen but, I would strongly recommend asking a medical professional.
I agree. Tinkering with things without the proper medical supervision isn't the best of ideas. Just make sure you find a competent doc and not some dumb quack otherwise you are basically self-medding with "medical supervision". I went through that and it was really screwed up.
i would never self medicate, i could not even afford it
It depends on the person. In the "old days" the HRT regimen *was* generally only estrogen, but often prescribed in very high doses so that it could double as an anti-androgen. Estrogen does in fact suppress testosterone to some degree, but it varies in effectiveness by person - one woman I know is on very low dose E only (no spiro) and has a T level of 35, another is on a very high dose of E plus a super-high dose of spiro and still has T levels around 600.
(The woman who is on E-only also had a starting T level around 200, like you. But she reported that her "functionality" was impaired very early on - she's got fantastic results in terms of breast development, body fat redistribution, etc. but it stands to reason that if she's THAT responsive to estrogen, it'll also work on her downstairs the way higher doses do for others.)
So you can try, but there are no guarantees. Like anything in life, I guess. :)
Aii 600 T level is scary.
Quote from: Rita on October 24, 2012, 01:12:20 PM
Aii 600 T level is scary.
I'd cut em off myself...
She did end up getting an orchi very fast, yeah. It was that or basically see no results from HRT at all, besides stressing out.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on October 24, 2012, 02:01:48 PM
I'd cut em off myself...
I think I would to.... -prepares the bathroom for an emergency orchi ;D-
My T levels are a little higher than I want them(don't know anymore since doctor double e dosed me for anti-androgen properties) but at a level where feminization occurs thank the heavens. I can wait it out till SRS.
ahh well then i guess its in for a penny in for a pound, there's really no in between place to be.
Shawn
Do not try and figure what what medication you need. Get an endo and they will TELL you what medication you need.
Risky. It's already a little cloudy whether it's relevant or not to prescribe E without anti-androgens, but add to that your complexified hormone profile and it becomes dangerous to even try to advise. Get a professional; don't even consider Internet help for a situation like that. It requires someone with a professional's knowledge and experience to judge. If there's only one case where self-medicating is not advisable, it's this one.
However, I think it's safe to say that you shouldn't assume any kind of HRT to leave your genitals and their function intact at a 100% chance.
if your curious what HRT with just estrogen does for you? ill be glad to share my time line photos with you. im just 3 1/2 months into hrt. and im on estrogen only. last week I got put on low dose T blockers only because I drove my doctor crazy about wanting them. SBHG are produced by oral estrogens which slowly lower active T in the blood. I went from a T level of 570 to 250. which is alittle high for a woman, but within a normal medical occurance.
I was only asking to clear things up, this tg gal said all this, but it didn't really ring true with me.
Unfortunately Estrogen alone with not do much. It will battle with Testosterone. Best to see your Endo and get started with a proper regimen.
I'm on e only. I was on spiro as well but my endo felt e alone would be more effective as he described it spiro at very low t values can trigger receptors and slightly increase t. at the time of my last test I think 7 was at 46 or something like that so to say e alone does nothing is incorrect. But I do agree you need to talk to your endo about it.
There was a time where I used to go on and off spiro because I really saw no difference..
My T lvls usually stay around 60 if I'm off of spiro.. It isn't a big deal for me..
But I used to go on and off because I felt like when I was on spiro I would get alot of water weight...
I'm on my spiro religiously now and it's okay, I figured it better to be safe than sorry..
As for sexual differences, The orgasms off spiro are so much better and powerful..
When I'm taking my spiro.. They are kind of weak and unsatisfying..
It really is an area where expert opinion is best.
I am only Estrogen only and my Endo is happy with my blood levels. My Testosterone is down around the noise level of the analyser, so you can't really do better than that. I am happy with the physical changes to date too.
Karen.
This is exactly why you need medics looking after you. When I first went on the blue pills my E2 went ballistic and stayed there, my T disappeared and my SHBG was high and stayed high.
I went through a lot of investigations about what was going on and some of the reasons can be very bad including liver disease or adrenal malignancy. I was also tested for cross reactions of my E with that used in the commercial assay kits. After a lot of investigation it was decided I'm a very healthy freak who produces E2 at too high levels in response to the blue pills.
I have never taken ant-AAs as they are a waste of time for me since I do not produce T. I don't take the pills as they produce too high levels of E2 so I have implants .
If I was self medicating without expert medical advice I could have ruined my health very quickly.
The lesson learned from this? Make sure you have a good endocrinologist looking after you.
Cindy
Yasuko14, we all need to have some T in our system if we are going to have a sex life at all. Guy just have a more.
My T levels can be considered way too low for a girl, and still, I manage to get aroused. Though I will admit that I'll eventually need a bit if I don't want to end up with osteoporosis.