Ok, so I'm going to start using the lady's room soon...and I have some anxiety about sounds, either "#1" or "#2"...
It's widely believed that women don't toot, and in a bathroom (at least in the guy's) one can encounter some awful sounds and smells--HEY CAN YOU DO A COURTESY FLUSH?! JEEZ DUDE!--and I am worried about making improper noises...
Yeah it's a stupid concern, and I'm sorry...any answers/insight is appreciated. Thx!
Beth, I will say that your anxiety is not unfounded....I think All women think this way and worry about what sounds may come out in the ladies room. Growing up, I was always taught that ladies don't make those sounds....although I am from the south and was brought up in a very 'ladylike' atmosphere. In the ladies room the only way I can describe this, #1 don't worry about any 'tinkling' noises :) there's no way to really help that peeing. But as for the second number....i'd never do that in public to be perfectly honest, and I would say more often than not if you have a 'slip' in the bathroom when someone else is in a stall...well don't think about it too much. It does happen, but probably not as frequently by far than in the mens room. I think men in general just don't get embarassed about bodily functions as women do. Women tend to try to be more discreet especially in public. Good luck!
If you have to make sounds...timing is the key word...flushing at the exact time you blow your tooter :laugh:
So, i guess what Mom used to said is true: "In life timing is everything" >:-)
Quote from: peky on December 26, 2012, 09:03:28 PM
If you have to make sounds...time is the key word...flushing at the exact time you blow your tooter :laugh:
Lol.....I have heard women flushing mutliple times before from the same stall, so lots of girls must being using this technique! :)
I think it depends on where you are in the world. I've heard women make some pretty nasty noises in the bathroom - and some even talk on the phone while they do their business!
Granted, I only use public bathrooms in case of extreme emergency (I don't pass well enough to go to the men's room, but am masculine-looking enough that I get dirty looks if I get 'caught' in the women's room).
But if you're that worried about it, don't be. It's the bathroom. Throw a square or two of toilet paper into the bowl if you're going to go #2. Can't do much about the noises that come with doing a #1, but it's normal.
You'll be fine.
"Battle->-bleeped-<-s" notwithstanding, I did not encounter much in the way of embarrassing noises and so forth in my experiences in women's restrooms in all sorts of venues. I suspect that (as someone has already stated), women are more self-conscious about such things and tend to wait until everyone has left, unless they have the option of doing their business in a single-occupancy stall or at home.
In the men's room, I have noticed a broader variety of attitudes that seem to be largely class-based.
Quote from: Arch on December 26, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
"Battle->-bleeped-<-s" notwithstanding, I did not encounter much in the way of embarrassing noises and so forth in my experiences in women's restrooms in all sorts of venues. I suspect that (as someone has already stated), women are more self-conscious about such things and tend to wait until everyone has left, unless they have the option of doing their business in a single-occupancy stall or at home.
In the men's room, I have noticed a broader variety of attitudes that seem to be largely class-based.
LOL at the Harold and Kumar reference. I try to veer towards gender-neutral bathrooms, though I don't have too much trouble going in either one (did lead to a hilarious incident the other day because my school converted a couple of bathrooms but left urinals in there, and between me and the urinals one poor girl was extremely confused). But I digress. Women do tend to be a bit more self-conscious, but hey- if it happens, it happens! No one is going to murder you for making "unladylike" noises.
On a somewhat related note, I like that we're having some more posters from the other side of the fence on the FtM section lately. When I first joined not too long ago, I had this weird notion of it being taboo for that to happen :P
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 26, 2012, 09:38:33 PM
On a somewhat related note, I like that we're having some more posters from the other side of the fence on the FtM section lately. When I first joined not too long ago, I had this weird notion of it being taboo for that to happen :P
Call out the dogs. Let's run them uppity women out of our clubhouse!
Quote from: Siege on December 26, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
I think it depends on where you are in the world. I've heard women make some pretty nasty noises in the bathroom - and some even talk on the phone while they do their business!
So true. Before anyone asks, "How would you know that?," let me tell you that I volunteer in the school science department with two girls. One of them went to the bathroom, and the other said, "That's so funny! Guess what ___ texted me from the bathroom?" WHAT THE FLIM FLAM? ???
Quote from: Arch on December 26, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
unless they have the option of doing their business in a single-occupancy stall or at home.
Don't I know it. When my sister lived with me, I would hear her in there for miles. :laugh:
Quote from: Arch on December 26, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
Call out the dogs. Let's run them uppity women out of our clubhouse!
Good luck. I've killed a few dogs in my day. :P
Quote from: Siege on December 26, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
I think it depends on where you are in the world. I've heard women make some pretty nasty noises in the bathroom - and some even talk on the phone while they do their business!
Granted, I only use public bathrooms in case of extreme emergency (I don't pass well enough to go to the men's room, but am masculine-looking enough that I get dirty looks if I get 'caught' in the women's room).
But if you're that worried about it, don't be. It's the bathroom. Throw a square or two of toilet paper into the bowl if you're going to go #2. Can't do much about the noises that come with doing a #1, but it's normal.
You'll be fine.
What does this do?
It depends where you are. You basically never have to worry about pissing sounds, since that's basically unavoidable.
I'd never take a dump though in a restroom with people I know could be there though. Like at school, I'd only go really early or late in the day if no one is going to be around, or if it's a bathroom where no one ever goes in. It's perfectly acceptable in busy places like a train station though.
On a related bathroom note, I noticed some comments in other threads where ftms say things like "then i'd have to sit on the toliet seat" or something like that. I would never sit on a toliet seat, at least in public.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on December 26, 2012, 08:35:58 PM
Ok, so I'm going to start using the lady's room soon...and I have some anxiety about sounds, either "#1" or "#2"...
It's widely believed that women don't toot, and in a bathroom (at least in the guy's) one can encounter some awful sounds and smells--HEY CAN YOU DO A COURTESY FLUSH?! JEEZ DUDE!--and I am worried about making improper noises...
Yeah it's a stupid concern, and I'm sorry...any answers/insight is appreciated. Thx!
having used the women's bathrooms for almost 4 years now I can assure you that women fart and their poops smell too. I've heard them grunt, do loud farts and everything else in between.
And having used the men's bathroom for 30 some years before switching to the women's bathroom, I can say that the women's bathroom is always much dirtier. I lost count how many times I have opened the stall door and found piss all over the toilet seat.
The only advice I have is, don't pee standing up.
I remember as a child my mom teaching me to lift up a cheek when passing gas in Church while sitting on the wooden pew. That way it didn't make a buuuurrrrraaap noise but sounds more like the air breaks on a big rig psssssss, lol. I would assume if you are fart shy in the public bathroom that the same technique could be applied for almost noiseless flatulence.
OPAH = Only Poops At Home
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=opah (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=opah)!
A major problem when you're on vacation for a couple of weeks away from home...
-Ani
In the bathrooms I've been in I think people just wait to let it all out, lol. But if you did let one go and people heard it, no one would really think anything. At the very worst, someone extremely stuck up would think it was gross and keep it to themselves, but more than likely people would just ignore it and try to finish their own business.
"It is better to fart and bear the shame,
than to hold the fart, and bear the pain."
I admit i was self conscious the first 30 times i used the ladies room but developed a sense of belonging and ownership the 300 times to follow. As women we talk to each other pass water pass gas and do other unmentionable smelly and noisy things on a REGULAR basis if we are healthy often several times a day. We just dont talk ABOUT it in a professional setting. The biggest faux pas isnt having a thunderbutt. Its not washing your hands- we women find that utterly disgusting and rude- and only slightly less offensive is being one of those uptight women who is stuck up and wont talk to you or pretends like their bowel movement are silent odorless ballets. Though even then they may just think youve got OCD or constipation or a strange upbringing. Real women poo, wipe front to back, flush, adjust their clothes, wash their hands, fix their makeup, and if a friend is there, talk the whole time. Drink a lot of water and eat plenty of canned chili and you will have lots of practice.
Being a recent frequenter of both facilities before FT female.
Men's toilet's are far dirtier (IMO) woman do try to restrain themselves and go for #2 when they think the facilities will be freer. Everyone stinks, everyone farts, we are human. The male GI tract tends to be larger and the food consumption by men tends to be larger so the dumps are larger. The physiology is the same.
Everyone gets embarrassed. Which makes you think why?
As some one once said : "->-bleeped-<- happens"
And no don't censor it.
hahahhahhahahhha pissin myself ;D
Madeline is right......it's positively nasty when a woman doesn't wash her hands after using the facilities, don't be one of those because then you REALLY will get dirty looks (obviously bc that's nasty). Secondly, sitting on the toilet seat in a public restroom is gross and a disease waiting to happen. If you do it right, you 'hover' . I can say that you will hear more noises of the like in bathrooms like in a walmart than you would at a nicer store like at the mall or even target. I think women will actually wait until everyone leaves before doing the #2 business if they have to go so badly they can't wait until they get home. Women do talk on their phones ALL the time while in the bathroom, I've done that on a number of occasions, also will talk between the stalls to each other. If there isn't any toilet paper in your stall it's no big deal to ask the person 'next door' to hand you some under the divider!
When I go, I don't worry about noises, its common body stuff and you are doing it in an appropriate location. Now I do not go #2 in a public restroom nor at work in our private one. That's one good thing about regularity that is good. I do cover the seat with a few layers of toilet paper though to keep my skin from touching the seat at all and then just knock it in the commode when I'm done and flush it away.
The public restroom at my work place is unisex and I've noticed that its the guys and old people that make the most mess around here. Poor aim and being restricted in movement in some way contributes to that it seems. I check it numerous times during my shift in case someone makes a mess because I don't like it when a customer has to come up and tell me its dirty. We get a lot of compliments on how clean it is from out of towners and I want it to stay that way. I bleach the hell out of it every evening too, even the door knobs, light switch and whatever else people touch because a lot of people can't be bothered to wash their germy little paws.
WOOT!
After reading the replies here, I've realized my bathroom behaviors are on the fem side...i wait until the facility is empty, if someone comes in, I halt progress, wipe front to back (my grandma taught me that when I was little), wash hands, and try not to handle the door on the way out...
Its amazing how many guys DON'T wash their hands...
To play devil's advocate, washing your hands is about as frivolous as using hand sanitizer, unless you miss and accidentally touch some poop. EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD is coated in bacteria, unless you're in a sterile lab. Touch a wall, a desk, someone else's hand, and your hands will be just as dirty as before. That is, if the bacteria on the rest of your body didn't already multiply to make up for the deficit of bacteria on you hand. :P
Read a microbiology textbook and you'll see what I'm talking about. Talk about an eye-opener. :o
Quote from: DianaP on December 27, 2012, 10:07:48 AM
To play devil's advocate, washing your hands is about as frivolous as using hand sanitizer, unless you miss and accidentally touch some poop. EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD is coated in bacteria, unless you're in a sterile lab. Touch a wall, a desk, someone else's hand, and your hands will be just as dirty as before. That is, if the bacteria on the rest of your body didn't already multiply to make up for the deficit of bacteria on you hand. :P
Read a microbiology textbook and you'll see what I'm talking about. Talk about an eye-opener. :o
If you wash and then use a hand drier you could even increase the germs on your hands, microbes love warmth and damp, and that's exactly what you're giving them.
Washing hands is effective at reducing bacteria...that's why surgeons and nurses do it.
I could be wrong, of course...but until a study comes out that refutes the usefulness of handwashing...I'll keep on doing it.
And fwiw, I prefer paper towels to the blow-dryers. :-)
Quote from: Beth Andrea on December 27, 2012, 02:14:53 PM
Washing hands is effective at reducing bacteria...that's why surgeons and nurses do it.
I could be wrong, of course...but until a study comes out that refutes the usefulness of handwashing...I'll keep on doing it.
And fwiw, I prefer paper towels to the blow-dryers. :-)
what surgeons do is majorly different to what the average person does. and I could almost guarantee that the soap isn't going to be the same quality as surgeons do either. I'm not saying don't wash, just that there's not that much point aslong as you're not peeing on your hands somehow or something crazy like that.
Quote from: Alex000000 on December 27, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
what surgeons do is majorly different to what the average person does. and I could almost guarantee that the soap isn't going to be the same quality as surgeons do either. I'm not saying don't wash, just that there's not that much point as long as you're not peeing on your hands somehow or something crazy like that.
I wash my hands to protect myself (not others). I use the paper towel I dried my hands off on to open the bathroom door when I exit as well. Then again I'm one of those germ-a-phobes who wipes off shopping cart handles with antibacterial wipes and uses hand sanitizer when in public. I worked in retail and restaurants for years and people are disgusting...their spawn is even worse and I hate getting sick.
Okay, call me disgusting, but in some places I don't bother washing my hands.
I get off the train almost every morning at a peak hour and use the restroom at the station, it's always sooo crowded around the sinks with people doing their hair and makeup (even though there's a special area for hair and makeup across from the sinks), and I am usually carrying a 30 pound bag, a purse, my lunch, and a textbook or two, that I just know I'll never be able to easily use the sink.
I don't think it makes that much of a difference, I hardly ever get sick so maybe it helps boost my immune system.
Well surgeons use high-quality soap, then walk into a well-cleaned environment, all while wearing rubber gloves. Coming out of the bathroom, you walk into the real world, which is much dirtier than an OR.
Anywho, just go into the bathroom, make all the noise you must, and make a quick exit. :P
Since I was a kid, when having to go #2 in a public place (ESPECIALLY IN SCHOOL), it was hell for me. I'm super shy about that, or at least I was until now. At school, I maybe heard a girl fart once in the bathroom in all 12 years. In public restrooms, women let it rip. Seriously! Sometimes it smells terrible in women's bathrooms, more times than not. Just do what you need to do.
I just started using the guys bathroom, and it smells so much worse. There's ALWAYS a guy in there, grunting and farting and doing everything imaginable. The toilet seats are peed on all over, especially on the floor. It's disgusting.
Don't be shy about it. Those women don't care, they probably will never see you ever again, and even if they did, you're just doing a human thing.
I usually don't wash unless I do the second number.