hey what's up it's a long time i didn't post cause of a lot of reasons i miss the forum and you friends..
plus on all my problems about My voice and hips my biggest problem is my height i was 5.7 =1.72 cm last summer and now i become 5.8 = 1.77 and i can't get more taller cause i pass puberty so i can't get any taller so i will be short all my life.. guys in my age here are 5.11 ..6.3 and more and i'm always the short one even i go to gym and build musles i still look tinny compere to them.. i hate that i read in google that is possible to get taller after puberty idk if it's true or not i tries supliments too nothing changed now i use high shoes to give me more inches but not enough i still look so small any advices or any produؤt i'm ready to buy any product if it will make me taller and thank u in advance ..
Man, honestly, you are very, very lucky with your height. You really, really are. 1.77? I would absolutely love to be that tall! Being only 1.54, you should see how relatively lucky you are. A lot of transguy are way shorter.
But that's likely not what you wanted to hear. I don't know how old you are, but if you are passed puberty, you're done growing. Nothing can really change that anymore. But again, you may want to cherish what you do have, instead of what you do not have. 1.77 is not very short. You are as tall as my brother. He's just a little short, but nothing that stands out. Being 1.54 for a guy does....Count your blessings.
Mr.x thank you for the reply but the problem is i just can't accept that i mean even sometimes i try to not compare my self with bio guys cause its not fair i found that even some womens look taller than me cause you know almost all womens wear heels that just make me angry and hate my self anyway thnx for the reply bro..
I completely understand that. It's unfair, isn't it? Already born in the wrong body, and then being short as well. In my case, almost all women are taller. And I mean a lot taller. Eleven year old are taller than I am. It's an extra kick in the nuts.
But you know, its not all about height. I decided I'm going to end up being known as that short, cheerful and spirited guy. There is so much more to a person than height. And yes, it will be a striking first impression feature. But the people who will be bothered to get to know you will look past that.
Will that make you taller? Nope. Nothing will. But because nothing will, you had better just let it go. I mean, you can fret about it, but that won't change a thing. It took me years to do that, though. And I'm still bothered at times. But there are other things that are worth spending energy on because they can be changed.
i'm around same high and I also hate how so many guys tend to be taller, but I kinda got around to live with it, think of it as small and pratical.
I wear high boots just to get some inch more + I like the look.
I dont know about high and puberty to be honest. PreT I where around 1.72-1.73 as far I remember. after a year on T I was 1,75. I started on T when I where 18 so maybe my puberty face hadnt been all gone but I guess if your very young like less than 20 you might still grow abit.
Dude, you're tall! There's plenty here who'd kill to be that tall. I'm 173cm and I'm happy with that. It's all about confidence. You're focusing in on only tall guys, and tall guys probably don't think you're that tiny either. No doubt they know some far shorter guys. Around 5'9"-5'10" is average, so you're fine. Don't buy the growth after puberty stuff. Stretching helps show true height but some things I see are just dangerous for your back and/or trying to sell something that won't work. Just another penis growth pill scam.
I'm the same height and never feel short. I know plenty of cis guys who are the same height I am, some are even a few inches shorter.
If I remember right, you're hispanic. Most Mexican guys here are between 5'5" and 5'9". You're more average than you think. Focus on things that are able to be changed. Ok, so you're shorter than some of the guys you know. Get in better shape than they are. I know you said your muscles are smaller. Are you on T? If not there isn't much you can do about that right now. Keep working at it and eventually you'll get where you want to be.
If it were possible to trade height with someone I'd do it. I'm 5'9 and I wish I was closer to 5 foot. Why? I'm a horse racing fiend and I'm too tall to be a jockey. I can do everything else... but I can't ride in races because of my height and weight that comes with height.
....I envy you all so much right now.... Life can be extra unfair at times.
I'm 168 cm, pretty much the same as one of my older brothers. I'm fine with my height, plenty of guys that are shorter than me. Not that I'd Mind being taller, not at all. :p
5'1" I'm super jealous dude. At your height, if it really bothers you that much, with shoe lifts or something you could be normal height. At my height, even that doesn't help too much.
It is all in how you project. Shorter guys need to have presence and confidence. They need to own the space around them. If you fret over your height constantly, it will show when you walk around and engage with other people. You just have to learn to accept yourself, or it will weigh on you and drag down the air around you.
I'm 5'5" by the way, so 165 cm. So yeah...appreciate what you have :) It could always be worse!
Depends how old you are, if you're in your very early 20's there's a chance that the growth plates on the long bones haven't fused quite yet. I was told for years how I was done growing, couldn't even if they gave me shots- now I've grown several inches and I'm not done yet. You never know.
But if you ask me, your height is fine, there's plenty of guys who would love to be that tall. Work with it, you're fine dude.
Sorry to step in, but 5'8" is hardly short.
I'm only 5'9"
Quote from: Sarah Louise on April 29, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Sorry to step in, but 5'8" is hardly short.
I'm only 5'9"
I'm 5'9" and I tower over
all my family except my older brother who's 5'10". In the UK, I feel like Snow White amongst dwarfs. It's baffling.
Dude, check out this link http://www.interbasket.net/news/4385/2009/09/average-height-by-country-males-20-years/ (http://www.interbasket.net/news/4385/2009/09/average-height-by-country-males-20-years/)
so, unless you are living in the Netherlands or Northern Eurpe, you are pretty average anywhere.
So, cheer up!
I'm 5'2", and it's a running joke with everyone that I'm short. It bothers me sometimes, but only when I'm with my girlfriend because she's taller than me, or when I ended up surrounded by a bunch of drunk, chanting men at work, and was barricaded by their chests. But even then that was a case of more being threatened by being trapped in a potentially volatile situation and feeling vulnerable because I was so much smaller than them, but I was going to the bar, and they weren't going to stop me.
Yes, our height can suck, but there's nothing we can do about it really. And you could be so much worse off. Cis guy's struggle with their height as well, I always enjoy poking fun at short cis guys, they start getting all offended, and then realise who said it and that it was completely tongue-in-cheek because I'm at least half a foot shorter than them.
5'7" isn't a bad height to be. ;D (I am 5'2" and don't feel short).
I don't think supplements will make you grow taller. If you want to look taller though, try shopping at stores that cater to short men. Just like the petite section is for women, the clothes will be cut differently than they would be for taller men so the proportions will fit better and make you look taller instead of like you are wearing clothes that are too big. Like, you'll notice that the pocket sizes are smaller, any fade marks will actually be at your knees instead of down by your shins, etc. If you wear striped shirts, get shirts with smaller stripes because that will help add to the illusion that you are taller.
Quote from: Simon on April 29, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
If I remember right, you're hispanic. Most Mexican guys here are between 5'5" and 5'9".
Se bem me lembro, ele é do Brasil. :D
I'm shorter than you.
I always pass.
I'm sick of these threads.
Quote from: JasonRX on April 29, 2013, 07:47:34 PM
I'm sick of these threads.
So don't read them. It's pretty obvious from the subject line that the topic is height...
Well take it from a cis male. What you lack in height you make up in personality and the way you carry yourself. I know so many guys under the 5'10" area who still command a lot of respect when they enter a room.
I don't know if that's a picture of you or not but if it is, just enjoy the fact that your absolutely handsome.
5"8' is average male height and not short. Stop feeding Your own insecurities and act as a man :) (I know, this coming from MtF is ironic, but I had to say this). Unluckily, I was born as male and I am 5"8' (176 cm) and I live in a Northern country. Even here, it is pretty average height for man and somewhere in the higher ranges for women. So You are not short ;).
Quote from: Sammy on April 30, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
5"8' is average male height and not short. Stop feeding Your own insecurities and act as a man :) (I know, this coming from MtF is ironic, but I had to say this). Unluckily, I was born as male and I am 5"8' (176 cm) and I live in a Northern country. Even here, it is pretty average height for man and somewhere in the higher ranges for women. So You are not short ;).
Can you calculate your grocery bill? ;D
5'8" = 68 inches. (5' * 12) + 8" = 68
68 * 2.54cm = 172.7 cm.
Therefore 5'8" =
172.7 cmWhat you're doing wrong is multiplying the floating point number 5.8 by 12" and getting 69.6" (176.8cm). 5.8 feet is not 5'8". 5.67 feet is 5'8".
I cant do complicated maths, I am a girl :P ! So I just use the online conversion tools :). Besides, if 6ft is 182 cm, then 5"8' is 4 inches less, which would be 4 x 2.5 and ... oh.
OK, but this means that the OP, who stated that he is 177cm now - he is not at 5"8' range, but is actually 5"9 -10ish' then!
Quote from: Sammy on April 30, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
I cant do complicated maths, I am a girl :P ! So I just use the online conversion tools :). Besides, if 6ft is 182 cm, then 5"8' is 4 inches less, which would be 4 x 2.5 and ... oh.
OK, but this means that the OP is not 5"8' (177cm), but is actually 5"9 -10ish' then!
Exactly.
thank you for the replies
I suppose many people have already said things along this line but I will add that most of the men (cis gender) who I dated were around your height. There is nothing to worry about.
ok saison thnx a lot
If you just happen to live in an area where all the guys are unusually tall, I can see that this would be disturbing.
My height doesn't bother me anymore, although it did at first. I'm not all THAT short--about 5'7"--but most guys have a few inches on me. However, back when I was worried about my height, I noticed that I'm taller than about 10% of the guys in my gay group. So I would focus on the fact that I'm taller than several guys there. Is there nobody shorter than you?
Now I can actually make jokes about it...my students think it's funny. I guess having a sense of humor (and a reasonably good beard) can help in a lot of situations.
Though the average height for a natal male varies from country to country, and from race to race, that worldwide average is 172 cm, or 5 ft 7.7 inches (2010 data). There are many determinant factors, such as nutrition, genetics, etc.
Here is a picture taken at the time of World War I, showing soldiers from various nations. The British and American soldiers are on the left side of the picture, respectively.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F0%2F04%2FTroops_of_the_Eight_nations_alliance_1900.jpg%2F300px-Troops_of_the_Eight_nations_alliance_1900.jpg&hash=a705f8359c96c7d638bc68e2a49957e6a1753a38)
I think it's all about psychological perception. When I was much younger and didn't think about transitioning as a possible option at all (trying to live the male role), I've seen all the larger guys running around. I thought (having a height of 174 cm): uuh ... it's soo unfair that everybody is bigger than me.
Nowadays, I see that all the females (and even the male ones (!)) are shorter than me. ... it's soo unfair that everybody is smaller than me ! ... lol
I'm your height Jossef, 5'8. I have a friend whose 5'6-5'7 and he's a very manly guy and when he talks everyone pays attention. Why? Because he knows his stuff, because he's assertive and because he's polite. I've got another 'friend' whose 6'3, he's arrogant, racists and over-all an ->-bleeped-<-. When he talks, no one listens. He demands no attention with his height. The point? The short guy is far more masculine and demands far more respect than the tall guy beecause his personality is superior, not because of his height.
So don't worry about your height, really! Don't worry! No one actually cares. So long as you can actually have a smart conversation, have a good personality and are over-all a good and respectful person, no one gives a rats bum how tall you are!
Us short guys are better at different things when it comes to physical limitations. I'll give you a non-human example. When I'm riding a horse, I know a lot about that horse right away from how tall he is. A short horse is fast on his feet, he can change his direction at a moments notice and be skippy about it. A large horse is going to be more powerful, he's going to carry himself differently, he won't be as fast in his rollbacks (for the most part) and he's certainly not going to be able to get low to that cow. But he's going to have a bigger stride and therefore he's going to be faster (ignoring superstars like Seabiscuit, there are always animals that exceed the general expectations).
So, you may not be able to match a larger males physical strength but you do have the opportunity to either out run them, or be faster on the offensive. The different between a bruiser build and a runner build.
So don't worry about your height, develop a good personality, don't argue about stuff you don't know anything about and be polite! Personality is always more important than physical characteristics.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on April 29, 2013, 09:06:14 AM
Mr.x thank you for the reply but the problem is i just can't accept that i mean even sometimes i try to not compare my self with bio guys cause its not fair i found that even some womens look taller than me cause you know almost all womens wear heels that just make me angry and hate my self anyway thnx for the reply bro..
I was closer to 5'6" before T.. according to docs but everyone I spoke to insisted that's impossible. They thought I was taller. I've been on T for over 2 years and I think I may have gotten slightly taller, maybe because it's kind of forced me to work on my posture (I'm not sure how to explain it, I often feel like my torso will collapse on itself if I'm slouched for too long lol.. might have to do with connective tissue changes or something?)
The high heels thing is really annoying, but really only bothers me if it's someone I'm interested in. :P But I think a lot of guys have this problem anyway because if 5'8-9" is the average male height (usually, in western countries at least) and women who are already about the same height or slightly shorter are wearing heels, it's bound to happen at some point in life.. haha.
Yeah, girls wearing heels is occasionally annoying... but I'm 5'2'' (157cm) and I know at least four girls that are already significantly taller than me, and often wear heels on top of that, so sometimes I'll be talking to a few of them at once and just feel rather small ::)
But honestly, it really doesn't bother me all that much. Often my response to things like that is just to laugh about it. I just think that since there's not much I can do about my height, I might as well just look at it as just something funny about me.
Finding people shorter than you is nice, too. I've been friends with someone for years that's an inch shorter than me, and I grew taller than my mom. On that note, OP, if it makes you feel any better, you're taller than my dad, and some other guys I know. If it's something you're not going to be able to change, you might as well try to look at the bright side, or take pride in other good things about yourself, like some other people have suggested.
I used to be really insecure about this myself but be aware while you're out doing mundane things. I started to realize that there were lots of men my height or shorter(I'm 5'4").
Once you get into the swing of being yourself no one will question you, especially not based on your height.
I'm only 5'4 but I am actually taller than a few cis guys that I work with. You really shouldn't be to concerned about your height, you definitely are not that short. I also have the same problem that you do with looking small even after gaining muscle. I have gained about 15 pounds this year, but I still look so small and scrawny compared to most other guys.
I'm 5'4" and it's always made me feel vulnerable...even around women. I can take the short jokes and laugh at myself, but the things is I'm in an almost constant ready for a fight that I "know" I'll lose for one reason or another. For the most part though it's because I'm so short and unintimidating so I carry a knife (shrugs). Never had to use it but having it calms me down. Thing is that I don't think I'd feel that way if I were 5'8" or 9". I've hung out with plenty of guys that height.
But hey you win some you lose some. I've gone on a lot of adventures where I was the prime candidate to go into the tiniest space. Gives being short and tiny that small advantage. Still is the only good thing I've found about it though.
To be entirely honest, height is not the biggest factor in passing. Yes, being tall helps, but being short isn't that bad. Lots of cis-guys are short. I am 5'3 (I'm still growing), and I know tons of cis-guys that are shorter than me. Shortness isn't something to be happy about, but it also isn't something to be depressed about. Remember, being short never stopped Napolean from controlling France, it shouldn't stop you from your aspirations, endeavors, and happiness.
Height, in my experience, hasn't hindered passing at all. I'm not even 5ft and I'm known as the short boy. I hope that helps some people struggling with their height.
I'm 5'4" (and maybe 1/4 to 1/2"). As a female, I feel insignificant, because shorter females are cuter and curvier. If I were to try to pass as male, I would also feel insignificant at such a height, being so short.
So I'm kinda effed either route I chose to take.
However, I've dated a guy shorter than me, who was actually pretty buff and masculine, so if you've got enough of the goods, height won't hold you back. ;P
I'm 5"8 and my height only sometimes bothers me, Usually when I'm standing around women In high heels or very tall men. However there's a tricky problem with my height, My hips are out of whack and I'm 6"0 on my left leg and 5"8 on my right leg. I stand on my right leg a lot, Bad habbit of mine. I always wanted to be 6"5 and super thin. No Idea why!! Haha, We all have fantasies. :laugh:
Unfortunately I'm moving to the Netherlands with my boyfriend In 2 years. I'm going to be a little shorty over there >_< Oh well. I think having a shining personality certainly makes up for It. So does confidence! Be proud and no one will even notice.
Seeing people being 5'6" and more and still be sad about their height just gives me a rather large sad. I wish I was your height.
Blackbird, welcome in my country! But yes, people are very, very tall here. But be happy you are still 5'8". You could be extra screwed and be only 5'1" in the Netherlands, like me. That's right, even women are -all- taller than I am. *sigh*
I'm 1,80, apparently for FtM's I'm a giant or something, lol!
But yeah, I'm pretty happy with my length, I'm not super tall or big, nor extremely petite and finely build. Lots of guys are bigger, but plenty are also smaller, so... yeah...
But I don't think it matters that much when it comes to passing, yeah. I know a guy in my class who's 1,50! And he never gets mistaken for a girl, (because the shape of his body, I think, which completely a-feminine)
5'1 here...
My height gets me down a lot of the time. And the size of my feet. Mainly because my sisters are so much bigger than me, and I'm the 'big' brother!
Height is sucky, because for someone afab you reach adult height maybe age 14/15 for most people. And yeah, not much you can do about it. I have a couple of really short (female) friends so when I hang around with them I actually feel tall and it's awesome. (I didn't choose them based on height, just saying!)
Quote from: Dovahkiin on May 11, 2013, 11:32:52 AM
5'1 here...
My height gets me down a lot of the time. And the size of my feet. Mainly because my sisters are so much bigger than me, and I'm the 'big' brother!
Height is sucky, because for someone afab you reach adult height maybe age 14/15 for most people. And yeah, not much you can do about it. I have a couple of really short (female) friends so when I hang around with them I actually feel tall and it's awesome. (I didn't choose them based on height, just saying!)
Yeah, but you never know. Hadn't really grown at all in the past 6-7 years, all of a sudden I've been doing quite a lot of it. And this is years after they told me all my bones had fused. It's an inexact science, really.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on May 11, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
Yeah, but you never know. Hadn't really grown at all in the past 6-7 years, all of a sudden I've been doing quite a lot of it. And this is years after they told me all my bones had fused. It's an inexact science, really.
Lucky you! I'm pretty sure I won't grow any more because my parents aren't very tall. I think my sisters got the tall genes. xD
Quote from: Dovahkiin on May 11, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Lucky you! I'm pretty sure I won't grow any more because my parents aren't very tall. I think my sisters got the tall genes. xD
I don't have any siblings to compare myself to, but up until very recently it looked like I would never reach 5 feet. My parents are average and you're close in height to me, there's hope for you yet. Stretching and vitamins, my friend.
I started T in my forties, and I appear to have grown 7/8 of an inch. I'm still trying to figure it out.
Mannn I'm 5'5 (I used to be 5'4) and I've never felt bad about it a day in my life.
I'd feel so awkward being taller than myself.
I actually remember never wanting to be tall as a child because I thought It would be too high, (I used to be scared of heights) -- I used to think I would just fall down all the time.
Then when I figured heights weren't so bad, I started saying "I want to be 6'5!!". Silly me, Haha.
I've been dysphoric about my height since i hit 16. I knew I wouldn't grow anymore even though I had a couple years left, and that was well before I knew I was trans (21 now, been trans for about a year.). I was a stud/masculine "lesbian then so that didn't help being that either. I dream of being 6 foot or 6"3 always sounded perfect. my girl is like 3 inches taller than me. All the women but I couple are inches taller and it angers me. I always wanted to tower over them let them lay on my chest, hold them from behind and put my head on there head, etc. but I'm only 5"5 actually right right right below it. I would kill to be 5"8. I know of the inserts for your daily shoes, height increased dress shoes for work but i like being in flip flops in the summer so...If there is a pill or something a surgery I'd take it! There is no sugar coating that. just to be 3-4 inches taller! but keep your head up man, I want to be your height, but inserts and ish will help and let me know if you find something to make you grow.
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I recently realized that people don't notice how short I am. I'm 5'5 which is extremely short for a guy, but most people just assume I'm average-short. I've gotten into a few conversations about height for whatever reason and people always ask, "So how tall are you? 5'7, 5'8?" So they recognize that I'm shorter than average but no one is going to guess that a guy is 5'5. I used to think it was painfully obvious how small I was, but it's just not. So don't worry about it, your height isn't a big deal to anyone but you and there's nothing you can do to change it.
^ I agree.
At least in my area, most guys are pretty short. A LOT of the guys at my new job are only about 5'5", 5'6". And one's even shorter than me. If you carry yourself with confidence, height doesn't matter too much. I'll still always be down on my height (ha!), but knowing that it doesn't mean much in the end will keep me from dwelling on it too much.