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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: DrBobbi on June 22, 2013, 08:34:42 PM

Title: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: DrBobbi on June 22, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Hi,

I'm new to HRT having completed my 6th week and I love it. The dysmorphic OCD feelings are gone and I'm happier than I can remember. Then there's this, my sexuality is shifting. I was married for 23 years, have two adult children, and always loved women, but lately now find myself also attracted to, men.

We're taught that sexuality and gender identity are two separate things, but hormones must, and in my case, influence sexuality. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: RedFox on June 22, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
I've been in multiple long term relationships with women in the past 40 years and while I considered myself Bi because I enjoyed the sex with men (in-between hetero relationships) I was never actually attracted to gay men.  After a few weeks on HRT my interests and fantasies really started shifting.  I find myself considering men (straight men) as potential partners and I suspect I look at them as any other woman would.  I'm still interested and attracted to women, but I'm not sure how much of that is habit and how much is still true interest.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Olivia-Anne on June 22, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Before I started hormones I would have labeled myself bi-sexual. But since starting them I am definitially alot more interested in men then woman. Although in my case I attribute it to something else. For me when I started hormones, it was a new chapter in my life. I was more emotionally aware. I allowed myself to grow and find and experience emotions that I repressed for a very long time. It is my theory that this is the root of my sexual preferance. I think the attraction was always there but it took some steps before it felt ok to feel that way. For me the step just happened to be hormones. Maybe that is the case with you as well? *shrugs*

<3 Liv
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: big kim on June 23, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
I was bi pre HRT but I became more interested in men after a few months of HRT.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: suzifrommd on June 23, 2013, 10:35:15 AM
My sexuality started a bit of a shift even before HRT. As I started seeing myself as female, the idea of my skin against rough hairy male skin didn't seem so icky.

That being said, I still haven't come across a man I'm attracted to.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Mollie on June 23, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
I am due to start HRT very soon. There are three "symptoms" that will make me stop immediately (in order of importance)

1 Suicidal thoughts or depression.

2 Changes in sexuality. (I feel guilty enough already regarding my wife).

3 Being made to feel physically unwell.

Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Renee on June 23, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
Had no real interest in sex before hrt and after nine years on it, still not interested in sex.

Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: kelly_aus on June 23, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
After years of living as a gay guy, I assumed I must be a straight woman - I'd spent years chasing men, after all..

I was wrong. Circumstances were such that I realised I had never loved a man, not once. The few loves of my life had all been women. I was a lesbian and always had been, HRT didn't change my preference, just put me in a position to accept what I'd known about myself all along..
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Naomi on June 23, 2013, 10:59:48 AM
A friend of mine who did HRT for 1 month told that it was that she was open to the idea of being with a man before HRT, and then when she took hormones she started to notice the guys on campus.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on June 23, 2013, 02:40:54 PM
I think one thing to remember is that going on hormones means experiencing puberty the way genetic women do. I haven't read a great deal on how puberty solidifies sexuality, but I understand that many people discover their attractions at that time. So no one should be surprised that their sexuality changes. And in almost all cases sexuality  (that is the way we experience sexual attraction) will change, even if we are still attracted to people of the same gender as we were pre-hrt.

In my case, my sex drive nose-dived after two weeks on HRT. Then, seven and a half months into the process, I found men for the first time in my life. Up to hrt, I was exclusively attracted to women, but I no longer am. If I was repressing the desire before hand, I did a very good job fooling myself.

It seems like people who start hrt should be prepared for any possibility. I celebrate whatever changes take place! They're all part of the woman I was meant to be.

Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: bethany on June 23, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
Pre Hrt I was attracted to women exclusively. Now that I am five months into my transition I feel that I am attracted more to men.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
Pre-HRT I was attracted to men and independent, strong women. Nothing has changed except my ability to get men to talk to me. I feel exactly the same in almost every way.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: warlockmaker on June 24, 2013, 02:32:55 AM
I was a real male playboy and have been married 3 times with 4 children. I've had hundreds of female relationshipI did try it with a man once when very young and slightly intoxicatd and found that it was definitly not me. Back then the idea of a TS was so out there, after all we were trying to wrap our heads around accepting gays. Today, I find that I'm not attracted to females anymore and have this hang up with men BUT its only 3 months in and I know it will evolve.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Hideyoshi on June 24, 2013, 05:44:48 AM
I was gay before I started, and I like men just as much now
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: DrBobbi on June 24, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: sentience on June 23, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
I am due to start HRT very soon. There are three "symptoms" that will make me stop immediately (in order of importance)

1 Suicidal thoughts or depression.

2 Changes in sexuality. (I feel guilty enough already regarding my wife).

3 Being made to feel physically unwell.

Estradiol is a very powerful antidepressant. And, if you're trans, HRT should make you very happy, indeed. Guilt re: your wife won't get better on HRT. THat needs to be handled by confronting the reality. Can she love you, and remain with you as a woman? Will she be ok with being labeled by the insensitive, as bisexual?

Thank you EVERYONE for confirming what I already KNOW...Estradiol changes so much!
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Heather on June 24, 2013, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: DrZoey on June 24, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
Estradiol is a very powerful antidepressant.
Yeah you might want to give it some more time before making that assessment. I was all giddy and happy the first two months too.  ;)
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: BunnyBee on June 24, 2013, 03:08:21 PM
I went from asexual to straight, and I know there were other things at play besides hormones, but it feels very much like it was HRT that caused that shift.  I put a lot of credence in my feels, they usually know things best.

I don't think that messes with the homosexual narrative though, cause it's not apples to apples. Also you have plenty of gay trans people.  I think, in simple terms, when you use HRT to re-wire your brain so it matches your mind, then you find out who you were actually meant to be.  Sometimes that's a straight woman, much to your surprise.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: big kim on June 24, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
I'm much more comfortable as a bi woman,I was never OK being bi as a man
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Catalina on June 24, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
I liked men before, and I still like men now. Being straight is as much a blessing as being gay, or asexual or whatever!
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Jamie D on June 24, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
Quote from: Heather on June 24, 2013, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah you might want to give it some more time before making that assessment. I was all giddy and happy the first two months too.  ;)

You know, I agree with Zoey's assessment.  I felt the depressive burden lift from me from the beginning of HRT.  And the funny thing is, when I was forced to stop (hopefully temporarily), the pall did not return in force.  Perhaps it was because I had a better understanding of myself (a psychotherapeutic effect, rather than a chemical effect).

Being an anti-depressant does not mean it will completely stop all reasons for depression - no antidepressant does.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Silver on June 24, 2013, 06:19:49 PM
HRT did not change my sexuality. When I had accepted myself as transgender, however, I started to feel more attracted to girls. I suspect it was because I was no longer afraid to consider it a possibility- so I did. I lean towards it being more of a result of mental changes/new ways of thinking than a solid effect of hormones. HRT did make me a lot more comfortable with my body, too, which. . . opens up possibilities as well.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: LizMarie on June 25, 2013, 12:53:20 AM
I wonder how much of our sexuality we repress, in order to be the person we're expected to be. I know that I was attracted to boys as a teenager but if I dared speak that in the backwater part of the country where I grew up, in that place and time, I'd have been beaten and tormented endlessly, with approval from both teachers and parents.

So I suppressed. I didn't tell my best friend that I wished I could be his girlfriend. And as I fought to make myself be what others expected, I suppressed even more. It haunted me throughout my marriage though, with long droughts of intimacy because I couldn't stand myself.

My wife knew there was something wrong with me but never confronted me. I think she was afraid of the answer. And eventually it all came out anyway. Once I began working with my therapist, I began to remember some of these things from my early teen years and I finally admitted to myself that I like men. But I do like women too, so I guess I am bi.
Title: Re: Sexuality and HRT
Post by: Northern Jane on June 25, 2013, 06:32:06 AM
From the beginning of puberty (age 12?), when I decided boy's weren't totally icky after all, I was totally and completely straight (attracted to boys) and the idea of being with a girl was repulsive. After SRS (age 24) I was pretty wild and made up for lost time (practising "catch and release" LOL!) but a couple of years later I ended up in bed with another woman (alcohol WAS involved!) and had to admit that it was nice and that I was at least capable of Bi. So many years later I find it very comfortable being with a woman and knowing how everything feels is an advantage but men still get me HOT (and wet LOL!)