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Title: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jennygirl on July 02, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
Mainly I want this thread to be for people to ask questions or state tips/opinions on how to act around guys romantically. Though it is for anyone to post, it's kind of more specifically for those of us who may be discovering new areas of our sexuality before/during/or after transition and wanting to learn how to embody our femininity as it pertains to males.

So to kick it off with my own personal request...

Does anyone have any tips on how to act feminine when cuddling with a guy? I am discovering that I have kind of a crush on this one cis straight male friend of mine and he has been reciprocating the body language back to me in big ways... I am extremely excited by it but I feel like it's an area I could use some help with and I get kind of nervous about the way that I am reciprocating it back- like I might do something and send the wrong message which would make me feel hella dysphoric. Any tips about how/where to touch someone or position bodies as to send the right vibe (which in my case is... "let's make out when we get the chance")? :D

I do not want to appear masculine to him at all, so any tips / hints are greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jamie D on July 02, 2013, 04:27:39 AM
Leaned against him on the couch, with head on shoulder, thusly:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb-images.chacha.com%2Fimages%2FGallery%2F5786%2Fhow-can-you-become-an-amazing-cuddler-348887493-apr-18-2013-1-600x400.jpg&hash=33c6bde821f0f308d3e85715aaf4c4d02d0da66b)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jennygirl on July 02, 2013, 04:31:43 AM
Quote from: Jamie D on July 02, 2013, 04:27:39 AM
Leaned against him on the couch, with head on shoulder, thusly:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb-images.chacha.com%2Fimages%2FGallery%2F5786%2Fhow-can-you-become-an-amazing-cuddler-348887493-apr-18-2013-1-600x400.jpg&hash=33c6bde821f0f308d3e85715aaf4c4d02d0da66b)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Carlita on July 02, 2013, 05:22:37 AM
There are particular gestures women make that men don't. That head on the shoulder one is absolutely a classic. Another example would be that when a woman is in a man's arms she will often reach up to stroke his face, just gently running her fingers down the side of his cheek and around his mouth. A guy's hands are much more likely to be all over her ass!
That's not to say she won't run her hands up the front of his trousers, just to feel what's in store for her down there, but that only happens if she's pretty confident and wants to make it clear she's expecting this to go all the way. Otherwise, most of the gestures are gentler, more passive and even (apologies for being un-PC, but sex is the ultimate un-PC activity) submissive.
It all comes from the fact that she is likely to be smaller and weaker than him ... and that in the right context, with the right man, whom she desires, that helplessness - which can be terrifying or infuriating in other circumstances - suddenly becomes incredibly sexy. But at the same time, things like the facial touching are ways of establishing a kind of ownership of her man and - both physically and emotionally - drawing him closer to her. (That finds its echo later in a relationship when she adjusts his tie or his jacket collar, or brushes some lint off his chest: simultaneously caring for him, presenting him at his best and also possessing him).
Also, women are much more vocal, not just talking, but all the little sighs, moaons, 'mmm's, and so on. With your new voice, Jenny, you should be great at that!  ;)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Alainaluvsu on July 02, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Don't be afraid to allow yourself to be smothered by him. I love the thought of his male scent being left on me. Being held against him closely always makes me feel feminine. Be gentle and "glidey" with your touches, especially with your fingers. It always helps to know that he's stronger than you too. Do things that test his strength a little, such as grabbing his arm, wrist, whatever and feeling how heavy it is or getting on top of him and trying to hold his arms down (wrestle with him a little) - but I wouldn't do that unless you know he's stronger than you are.

Honestly being with a guy makes me feel more feminine than anything else for so many reasons. It's one of the reason I'm so attracted to them :)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Tristan on July 02, 2013, 07:38:28 AM
I normally like to flirt to start off. But let them lead. Always make them feel in control and valued while talking to them. Once we are close together I peek his interest with a little fun mystery about myself (drives em crazy and works every time). And it's also nice to use your sexuality I think you call it to bring him closer to you. I snuggle on the couch with them and press my body against them. I'm warm and they are warm, it's normally good. Plus most guys like the natural sweet smell of us.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: V M on July 02, 2013, 08:06:04 AM
Not to make any ill comparisons, but think about it... Humans are much like any animal, a little touch here a pat there, some kind of contact that signals "I'm your friend, you can relax and be comfortable around me"

Most everyone likes a nice pat on the back from time to time, but try this out with your guy... Gently place one hand on his shoulder with your inner forearm resting along his bicep, then with the other hand lightly rub his belly three times and then give it three firm pats

This will usually set just about any guy at ease whether he is of interest or just a friend

Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Lilyyy on July 02, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
jamie d is that a pick of you and your boyfriend? you look so young lol :)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 02, 2013, 09:07:03 AM
Yeah, I was thinking.. welll ... nothing, it just is. But, no, like the others said, but really, I can't imagine that it wont just happen that way. You just kinda adopt the place that you see yourself and that you want to take and everything flows from that.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: MaidofOrleans on July 02, 2013, 09:51:02 AM
I can't talk about this kind of stuff it gets me too...."excited"  ;)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Ah well :) - if You are into them, then Your body will respond instinctively - it is wired to do that ;). As for practical advice, tilting Your head sideways is a very strong signal, which his brain should be picking up - providing he has one :P. By doing this You are baring Your neck and showing Your submissiveness to him. Look into his eyes, while talking to him or he is talking to You, accidentally tilt Your head a bit, then break the lock and look at his hips/nose, then back into his eyes. Another one - if You are into his arms, turn around pressing You back against him - You could wriggle around a bit too, but what You should be going for is raising Your arm and extending it backwards, grabbing the side of his head and pulling it towards Your ear - tilting Your head at the same time, so his nose buries into Your flesh somewhere a bit lower Your ear :P

Dont ask me how do I know this, its just how I would do that... :P
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: ZoeM on July 02, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Ah well :) - if You are into them, then Your body will respond instinctively - it is wired to do that ;). As for practical advice, tilting Your head sideways is a very strong signal, which his brain should be picking up - providing he has one :P. By doing this You are baring Your neck and showing Your submissiveness to him. Look into his eyes, while talking to him or he is talking to You, accidentally tilt Your head a bit, then break the lock and look at his hips/nose, then back into his eyes. Another one - if You are into his arms, turn around pressing You back against him - You could wriggle around a bit too, but what You should be going for is raising Your arm and extending it backwards, grabbing the side of his head and pulling it towards Yourr ear - tilting Your head at the same time, so his nose buries into Your flesh somewhere a bit lower Your ear :P

Dont ask me how do I know this, its just how I would do that... :P
Huh.
I did this (head-tilt) for years before self-realization (obviously not in overtures to guys, but eh)... I guess it's kinda built in?
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: ZoeM on July 02, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
Huh.
I did this (head-tilt) for years before self-realization (obviously not in overtures to guys, but eh)... I guess it's kinda built in?

Yeah.. given how many of us are not that sure that we will be into guys... the most useful in-built skills ever :P
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Tristan on July 02, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Yeah.. given how many of us are not that sure that we will be into guys... the most useful in-built skills ever :P
This is very true. There's just a few things about guys that I like way to much to switch to girls. Plus they give you lots of attention and love to read out body language. And best of all guys never say anything you actually have to listen to
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Cindy on July 02, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: Tristan on July 02, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
This is very true. There's just a few things about guys that I like way to much to switch to girls. Plus they give you lots of attention and love to read out body language. And best of all guys never say anything you actually have to listen to

Oh Sis how true :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
Really??? I never noticed that guys actually do pay ANY attention to body language unless it is THAT kind of body language. ;) But I totally agree about that last sentence :D. Ever since I became more self-aware and especially after I started transition, I keep watching and comparing both genders - it is sooo interesting. And I keep noticing how guys cant wait to get into conversation and then when their patience is out they just interrupt the speaker and then goes: "Btw, and Me then... and I... and I too... yet I....". All the time. Funny :) And we have one new office member here for a couple of months - very young, eager and fresh, but he has not obtained his Master's degree yet and has little practical knowledge. Everytime we talk, I keep noticing how he is interrupting me constantly and I know, he means no harm or disrespect, it is just the way he communicates. But it sometimes makes sooo tough to get to the point :P
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jennygirl on July 02, 2013, 01:39:13 PM
Wow so many great tips! Thank you all so much! Keep em coming if you like ;)

Yay! New things to study and learn! Can't wait to practice some of these. Reading some of them literally gave me the chills more than once!
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Horizon on July 02, 2013, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Lilyyy on July 02, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
jamie d is that a pick of you and your boyfriend? you look so young lol :)

Stock photo, I believe.

I must say, there's definitely some interesting advice here!  Keep it up :)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Sammy on July 02, 2013, 03:19:41 PM
And dont forget saying lots of "Oh" and "Ah" in the process - and by process I did not mean THAT.  By the way, if You get to suck or bite on his earlobes, dont hesitate :P For some people, irrespective of gender, this is quite a major turn on :).
Yeah, also if You can blush "on demand" then... ;)
Another one - keep talking to him, look into his eyes, establish the lock for a couple of secs till it is almost the stare-battle, but almost. Just before he might start feeling challenged, give up, break the lock, turn away Your face and smile softly - ideally, if Your hair could cover Your face at that moment (You could show him Your tongue then without being noticed :P ).


Btw, is it just me, or we do have here quite a lot of slutty-wannabies? Just kiddin', nothing personal and please do not take this as an offence! Please? :) Those stories about MtF being hypersexual, hypersensual and hyperfeminine must really be having some basis, huh? ;)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Lara1969 on July 02, 2013, 03:27:49 PM
Thank you all for you fantastic advice!

Lara
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: JennX on July 02, 2013, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jennygirl on July 02, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
Mainly I want this thread to be for people to ask questions or state tips/opinions on how to act around guys romantically.

Just be yourself and be open and honest. That way you don't have to act in any certain prescribed manner. If you and a partner hit it off, it should be due to real, genuine, honest affection towards one another. Not due to having to act in a particular fashion to capture their interest, romantically or otherwise. Personally for me, transitioning was due in a large part, to the fact that I got tired of living a lie and having to act like someone I'm not. Or in some prescribed manner in which I was not comfortable.

Just be yourself.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jamie D on July 02, 2013, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: Lilyyy on July 02, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
jamie d is that a pick of you and your boyfriend? you look so young lol :)

Thank you Lily, but no, that's not me.  It was an illustration of what I was saying.

I look much more like this:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-V41iI7ZnwFU%2FThb1PHyJBXI%2FAAAAAAAAByw%2FBP4fnNotWlg%2Fs1600%2FMarty%2BFeldman.jpg&hash=e266168c1ca86fc483aad5fcf3fd92a2caa9d3f6)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Magnolia88 on July 03, 2013, 12:44:55 AM
I always thought I acted too feminine with guys and tried to be more masculine so I wouldn't be judged. Now that I know who I am, I embrace it. I would say just go with your natural feminine instincts and you should do great.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: xchristine on July 03, 2013, 01:05:22 AM
Was going to write something

But than I realized I have nothing
Every man is differant...some have mushy wants..
Others just have wants :-P

Oh plus I'll he called s sexist..transexual misogynist
Or a hoe....hehehe

Let's just say I have had about enough fun for half a
Dozen respectabe girls....
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: eli77 on July 03, 2013, 02:04:12 AM
Quote from: Jamie D on July 02, 2013, 11:16:23 PM
I look much more like this:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-V41iI7ZnwFU%2FThb1PHyJBXI%2FAAAAAAAAByw%2FBP4fnNotWlg%2Fs1600%2FMarty%2BFeldman.jpg&hash=e266168c1ca86fc483aad5fcf3fd92a2caa9d3f6)

Nothing like. Can't fool me. I know what you actually look like.


And why does everyone make this stuff sound so complex? Positioning is super simple. Inside = feminine gender role. Outside = masculine gender role.
If you spoon. You get to be little spoon.
If you hug, your arms go around his neck and his around your waist, or yours around his waist and his around your shoulders. So that either way, you are inside his hug.
When you lean into him, its on the inside of his shoulder. When he leans into you, its on the outside of your shoulder.
It extends to everything really. Accepted feminine norms say your knees stay close together, your elbows stay close to your sides. Accepted male norms are to spread out and take up as much space as possible. It's all down to body language that says you are vulnerable, that you want looking after.

Of course... some guys like masculine body language in their women. It tends to imply confidence, arrogance, even sexual permissiveness. Depends on the bloke.

Also. I am so glad I'm not straight. No offense. I just get bored easily.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Horizon on July 03, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Quote from: Sarah7 on July 03, 2013, 02:04:12 AM
Nothing like. Can't fool me. I know what you actually look like.


And why does everyone make this stuff sound so complex? Positioning is super simple. Inside = feminine gender role. Outside = masculine gender role.
If you spoon. You get to be little spoon.
If you hug, your arms go around his neck and his around your waist, or yours around his waist and his around your shoulders. So that either way, you are inside his hug.
When you lean into him, its on the inside of his shoulder. When he leans into you, its on the outside of your shoulder.
It extends to everything really. Accepted feminine norms say your knees stay close together, your elbows stay close to your sides. Accepted male norms are to spread out and take up as much space as possible. It's all down to body language that says you are vulnerable, that you want looking after.

Of course... some guys like masculine body language in their women. It tends to imply confidence, arrogance, even sexual permissiveness. Depends on the bloke.

Also. I am so glad I'm not straight. No offense. I just get bored easily.

But if you play big spoon, you get to be a jetpack!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlP5Zv.jpg&hash=e50ef06f9c61849efa7124c1987ecca4f8f7cd2a)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Sammy on July 03, 2013, 05:06:16 AM
Quote from: Horizon on July 03, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
But if you play big spoon, you get to be a jetpack!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlP5Zv.jpg&hash=e50ef06f9c61849efa7124c1987ecca4f8f7cd2a)

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: calico on July 03, 2013, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Horizon on July 03, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
But if you play big spoon, you get to be a jetpack!


lol ,

advice? I would say this, - be yourself with him and things will come naturally, you can be silly, weird, whatever as long as you are you! , however I will note if you are pre-op you need to be extra careful, mainly because of safety
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Ltl89 on July 04, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: JennX on July 02, 2013, 09:53:45 PM
Just be yourself and be open and honest. That way you don't have to act in any certain prescribed manner. If you and a partner hit it off, it should be due to real, genuine, honest affection towards one another. Not due to having to act in a particular fashion to capture their interest, romantically or otherwise. Personally for me, transitioning was due in a large part, to the fact that I got tired of living a lie and having to act like someone I'm not. Or in some prescribed manner in which I was not comfortable.

Just be yourself.

I agree with this one hundred percent.  You shouldn't have to feel like you have to put on a persona for him.  Just be yourself and everything will come naturally.  You'll do fine. :)
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: bullwinklle on July 04, 2013, 02:36:29 PM
NekoKoNeko's advice on cuddling: channel your inner cat. Seriously. Have you ever seen a cat that wants attention and loving in action? They know what they want and exactly how to get it.

Physical contact. Touch. Rub. Nuzzle. I'm not necessarily talking the sexy-times goodies, just random parts. Hands to face. Face to chest. Lots of kitty cat kisses.

Be playful about it, if you're in the mood. A cat will swat at your hair, play with your ear, or maybe come investigate your fingers. Unless you have allergies or hate cats, you can't help but smile at this behavior. Hug your partner's arm. Play with their hair. Trace an imaginary line on their body with your finger. Find out where they are ticklish (and then attack! >:-)).

Positioning. You could look up scores (https://www.google.com/search?q=cuddling+positions&num=50&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=wcnVUc_bBYSA9QTHooGYDg&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=705) of cuddling positions on Google for inspiration, but again, the cat instinctively knows what to do. A cat walks right on top of you, makes itself comfortable, and you to adjust to it. Human cuddling can be like that except it's a mutual activity. You have to read your partner's placement and fit yourself into it, or ease yourself into position while letting them accommodate you. Let them cradle you like a baby. Put a pillow on their lap and plop your head down on it. Straddle their legs, sit on their lap and face them. Chest = giant pillow.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jamison on July 04, 2013, 03:32:38 PM
When flirting and touching, you want to make sure you use the right gestures to imply the right meaning. Certain touches will make me think a girls into me, other touches let me know I could probably get laid tonight.

Flirty touches include: laughing at my jokes and touching my shoulder/arm, hand on my knee/leg (but too close too my junk and I think they want to mess around atm).

More intimate touches/cuddling include: head on shoulder, hand on chest (slowly rubbing is nice), caress of stomach if the dude has abs (but just watch how low you go).

I wouldn't advise to do any "patting," that's immediate friend zone status. I probably wouldn't touch the face either while kissing or cuddling- it's definitely more intimate in a loving kind of way and if done too soon might make the dude think you're more into them than you are. I'd keep the hand on the chest or on his neck. Since being on T, I still like being touched, but in very, very particular ways. Soft, caressing touches can be kind of annoying, same with soft kisses.

The best thing to do is to take cues from him. If a girl is doing something I don't like, but I want the physical attention, just in a different way, I tend to try to reposition myself a little like as if I were trying to find my groove in the couch. Or I just flinch a little bit. There's nothing wrong with asking if he likes something your doing, but always suggest, "but would you rather" option, because I hate feeling like an ass and just saying "please don't do that."
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: FrancisAnn on July 04, 2013, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on July 02, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Don't be afraid to allow yourself to be smothered by him. I love the thought of his male scent being left on me. Being held against him closely always makes me feel feminine. Be gentle and "glidey" with your touches, especially with your fingers. It always helps to know that he's stronger than you too. Do things that test his strength a little, such as grabbing his arm, wrist, whatever and feeling how heavy it is or getting on top of him and trying to hold his arms down (wrestle with him a little) - but I wouldn't do that unless you know he's stronger than you are.

Honestly being with a guy makes me feel more feminine than anything else for so many reasons. It's one of the reason I'm so attracted to them :)
I agree being with a man is so feminine, pleasant & normal. Just enjoy being yourself/a woman totally & let your man be himself/a strong stud. The chemistry will come together soon.  However men kind of need to be shown that their advances are welcome. Maybe a light touch or a phone call that you miss him or cook a nice dinner & invite him over.  For myself & since I love to cook I would go all out for a candle light type dinner sometimes. It was fun preparing a very nice dinner & my man knew I cared for him & things normally went very well later in bed.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: xchristine on July 04, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
In all honesty it happens naturally

It's innately programmed in us....and sometimes you meet a
Man that beings it out...it can never ever be drawn out with force

It is something that needs love affection commitment surrender ..

Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Bookworm on July 05, 2013, 06:35:24 PM
just relax. that is the key to all relationships
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Miranda Catherine on July 06, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
When I was in relationships with women I was always accused of being the feminine part of the relationship, but now I'm just me. I'm madly in love with a good man I've been with for nine months and I'm finally me without worries or reservations. I'd transitioned for thirteen months before meeting and falling for him, finding I can finally be silly and fun, and let my feminine side, always the dominant part of me, come out and play for good. As a woman, I'm no longer worried about being too feminine or girly, because my body finally matches my soul. When we're at the movies or watching t.v. I love to lightly touch or tickle his arm, put my hand in his masculine hands, softly rub up against him, lay my head on his shoulder and tickle his inner thigh. Especially at night when it's cold, I love to wrap my arms around him, and feel his warmth and strength as he envelops me, still two inches taller than me even in 4" heels. I love to hold his hand, feel his arm around me when we're in public, and be totally his when we make love because he also gives himself to me. He loves it afterward too, when I tickle him softly with my nails and lay my head and long curly hair against his naked chest. And I love the feel of washing his back and playing with him in the shower. And like most girls it seems, I love being spooned. There's so much more to it, but like Alaina said, being with a man makes me feel more feminine than almost anything else and it's one more reason why I'm so attracted to them (him).
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: FrancisAnn on July 06, 2013, 07:17:24 AM
Quote from: Miranda Elizabeth on July 06, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
When I was in relationships with women I was always accused of being the feminine part of the relationship, but now I'm just me. I'm madly in love with a good man I've been with for nine months and I'm finally me without worries or reservations. I'd transitioned for thirteen months before meeting and falling for him, finding I can finally be silly and fun, and let my feminine side, always the dominant part of me, come out and play for good. As a woman, I'm no longer worried about being too feminine or girly, because my body finally matches my soul. When we're at the movies or watching t.v. I love to lightly touch or tickle his arm, put my hand in his masculine hands, softly rub up against him, lay my head on his shoulder and tickle his inner thigh. Especially at night when it's cold, I love to wrap my arms around him, and feel his warmth and strength as he envelops me, still two inches taller than me even in 4" heels. I love to hold his hand, feel his arm around me when we're in public, and be totally his when we make love because he also gives himself to me. He loves it afterward too, when I tickle him softly with my nails and lay my head and long curly hair against his naked chest. And I love the feel of washing his back and playing with him in the shower. And like most girls it seems, I love being spooned. There's so much more to it, but like Alaina said, being with a man makes me feel more feminine than almost anything else and it's one more reason why I'm so attracted to them (him).
Miranda, Such a nice pleasant story. Thank you for your time to post it.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: monarch on July 06, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Miranda Elizabeth on July 06, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
There's so much more to it, but like Alaina said, being with a man makes me feel more feminine than almost anything else and it's one more reason why I'm so attracted to them (him).

Wow, Miranda, your relationship sounds amazing.  I had some thoughts on the above quote, but I won't go there as to avoid derailing this thread.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Miranda Catherine on July 07, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
QuoteThere's so much more to it, but like Alaina said, being with a man makes me feel more feminine than almost anything else and it's one more reason why I'm so attracted to them (him).
Quote from: monarch on July 06, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
Wow, Miranda, your relationship sounds amazing.  I had some thoughts on the above quote, but I won't go there as to avoid derailing this thread.
Truthfully Monarch and FrancisAnn, I don't see my honey enough for either of us, because he has his own business and works way more than either of us want, but he's owned this business for years before I met him and it wouldn't be right for me to pressure him too much to cut back on it. It's his career and a big part of his life and he loves it, but when it's practical for him to, he's brought it up that he will. Still, I know I'm a really lucky girl, because he's an honorable, good and decent man who loves me. He's also not into my present frontal plumbing, and I don't want him to be anyway! Monarch, as far as what attracts us to guys and/or makes us feel more feminine, thankfully, we have as many varied thoughts, feelings, ideas and ideals as cis women, as well we should, because we're women too. I know lots of women who love being women even more because they love men and appreciate them for their physical and emotional strength and how they make them feel sexually. I'm one of them. I'm definitely NOT into other women other than friendship, emotional support and they will understand me in ways men never could and I'm fine with that. Women just don't do it for me sexually. But....hugs, Mira                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Tessa James on July 07, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
Yes this is fascinating and fun.  I have been intimately involved with men in my life but not previously acknowledged as a transgender person.  I fantasized I was the girl during intimacy and that helped me cope but now?   My gay male friends are clearly less interested.   Straight cis women also are ok with telling me I am less attractive to them and so far I have had only one online trans ->-bleeped-<- to deal with.  This is not unexpected but what I didn't expect was the different reactions straight men have to me.  I formerly found it comfortable to have strong eye contact with men.  Now I am much more careful about my eyes and expression sending that "come hither " look.  Men size me up and down and look for a response that means something...?  Some men who have known me as Jim interrupt conversation sooner and perhaps see me as less of a threat now?  I am currently monogamous and not dating so my post is more general about changed relationships overall.
The posts about being with a man and feeling so feminine do totally resonate with this Bi person, thank you!
And don't we all want to feel special to some one?  How do you help someone feel special?
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Bookworm on July 07, 2013, 05:22:21 PM
Quote from: Horizon on July 03, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
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Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: monarch on July 07, 2013, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: Miranda Elizabeth on July 07, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Monarch, as far as what attracts us to guys and/or makes us feel more feminine, thankfully, we have as many varied thoughts, feelings, ideas and ideals as cis women, as well we should, because we're women too. I know lots of women who love being women even more because they love men and appreciate them for their physical and emotional strength and how they make them feel sexually. I'm one of them. I'm definitely NOT into other women other than friendship, emotional support and they will understand me in ways men never could and I'm fine with that. Women just don't do it for me sexually. But....hugs, Mira                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Oh, yes I see.  Like Tessa James, what you wrote resonated with me as well.  I just had some thoughts on why that was, and I was interested to see that other women had similar experiences.  Of further interest to me is how all of this relates to my sexual orientation, which is kinda muddied at the moment.  As you can see, my thoughts are outside the scope of what the OP wanted to discuss on this thread, so I won't discuss it beyond clarifying what I wrote earlier.  I definitely did not mean to imply anything about lesbian relationships on a thread about heterosexual relationships.
Title: Re: Tips for girls new to guys
Post by: Jennygirl on July 08, 2013, 01:33:25 AM
Quote from: monarch on July 07, 2013, 11:06:44 PM
Oh, yes I see.  Like Tessa James, what you wrote resonated with me as well.  I just had some thoughts on why that was, and I was interested to see that other women had similar experiences.  Of further interest to me is how all of this relates to my sexual orientation, which is kinda muddied at the moment.  As you can see, my thoughts are outside the scope of what the OP wanted to discuss on this thread, so I won't discuss it beyond clarifying what I wrote earlier.  I definitely did not mean to imply anything about lesbian relationships on a thread about heterosexual relationships.

It's okay.. I've been feeling quite "muddied" myself too, haha. Sexuality right now is very fluid for me, because I don't feel that I'm quite prepared to handle everything sexually without SRS.

Anyway I just wanted to thank everyone that has made these wonderful suggestions so far. It's been an absolute joy to read and it seems like it's helping others, too, which is GREAT!

I've been out of town with no chance to really start using any of these tips quite yet, but I will let you know how it goes when I do ;)

Thanks again, wonderful wonderful ladies!!!