So as a few of you know one of my main life missions ever since going through puberty has been to have HIPS!
I started padding my hips in public sometime during junior high, and only since beginning transition have I not felt comfortable doing it anymore. I think a new subconscious goal I have is to feel 100% genuine about my body, not just simply identify with its outward appearance like some sort of facade. I literally cannot bring myself to pad my hips anymore, it just feels so fake and wrong... as if I am deceiving myself.
I really want to do something about it, and I've been going back and forth between the only two procedures I have found. I finally made a decision.
The first method I have been looking at is hip implants. There were two doctors I was looking at... Dr. Chugay in Beverly Hills and Dr. Lazaro Cardenas in Guadalajara (who has loads of trans patients). Anyway I crossed Dr. Chugay off of my list months ago after a consultation gone awry... and I recently had to cross Cardenas off of my list too because he just sent me some before/after pictures that took away any confidence I had in the hip implant procedure. Not only does it leave a massive scar on the hip (a 2-3" scar on each side underneath the panty line), it just doesn't look very natural to me.
The only other safe option to augment the hips is fat grafting or fat transfer. Essentially fat is lipo'd from one or several areas of the body, purified, and re-injected into the patient wherever desired. Some of the fat dies if it cannot find a blood supply, but usually about 50% is permanent for a lifetime. There are a ton of surgeons who perform this operation, so I feel like I've had to do 10X as much research trying to find the best ones. The operation has to be performed by someone gentle enough to not damage the fat during lipo, but it also has to be injected in a truly artistic way to get the ultimate curves. From what I have read, the surgeons in Mexico are artists when it comes to sculpting and shaping a feminine figure. Also, doctors in Mexico tend to be less expensive so that is a double-plus.
I have found a surgeon (Dr. Ghavami) in LA that looks promising, but his operation starts at close to 11k! There is Dr. Salama in Miami that is supposed to be top notch. And then there is Dr. Campos in Tijuana that is right up there at the top as well.
As of right now, I am likely going to try to get a consult with Dr. Campos. He is hugely popular for the "brazilian butt lift" operation, if not the most popular in the world right now. Of course that is all subjective. I am just basing it from what I've read on various review websites.
Also, going into this, I know that I will likely be having a round 2 in the next couple of years and I'm okay with that. I just began hormones 8 months ago and I know I still have quite a bit of fat re distribution to go, and I also know that the tummy will never go away without lip. Might as well put it to good use ;)
As far as my worries... I am worried about not having enough fat to make a correctional difference. I've gained about 17 pounds since my lowest weight in March or April, but I still wonder if I am too thin. Either way, I know that having my tummy and waist lipo'd would make a big difference.
Has anyone tried fat transfer to their hips and care to share their experience? There isn't that much info specifically about MtF's undergoing this operation. I thought I remembered reading Tessa having fat transfer to hips but I can't remember for sure?
Any input is appreciated! :D
Interested in this as well.
I've heard that injections don't always retain enough fat for the effect to last.
And implants well those scars are nasty. I'm honestly puzzled as to why they make such large incisions in those spots. I mean why not cut under the cheek of the buttock or on the inside of the thigh?
Is there a surgeon with a better technique for this with proven results for implants?
My guess is that they have to make the incision there because the muscles are probably pretty taught. I know Cardenas places the implant under the muscle while Chugay makes a pocket inside the TFL muscle (intramuscular). I think intramuscular would be better to hold up against implant migration but still... yeah... with the scar. Nooo thank you.
Maybe in the future there will be a more anatomically correct hip implant other than just oval or round. Until then, fat transfer will have the most natural looking/feeling results. And as a bonus you get lipo of "problem" areas like the extremely common tummy fat that almost every mtf has.
I hope Campos doesn't have a huge wait time for consultation. Well, only one way to find out :)
Eat some stuff, gain some weight. The hips will come, I promise.
Quote from: Oriah on August 02, 2013, 08:30:13 PM
Eat some stuff, gain some weight. The hips will come, I promise.
The hips will come, but so will the belly, too... that is, if you've ever gained weight in your belly.
Your body might make new fat cells in the hip area (depending on genetics), but the belly fat cells will always remain there and they will expand as well. So then you'd be fat in the hip and the belly.
The only way to truly change this type of fat distribution is to reduce/remove the number of abdominal fat cells, because fat cells don't actually move around or relocate. Your body can only make more
I guess if you've been rail thin your whole life and had VERY few abdominal fat cells you could avoid this issue. But then you probably shouldn't be gaining weight at all because your body isn't designed for it ;)
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 02, 2013, 08:48:21 PM
The hips will come, but so will the belly, too... that is, if you've ever gained weight in your belly.
Your body might make new fat cells in the hip area (depending on genetics), but the belly fat cells will always remain there and they will expand as well. So then you'd be fat in the hip and the belly.
The only way to truly change this type of fat distribution is to reduce/remove the number of abdominal fat cells, because fat cells don't actually move around or relocate. Your body can only make more
I guess if you've been rail thin your whole life and had VERY few abdominal fat cells you could avoid this issue. But then you probably shouldn't be gaining weight at all because your body isn't designed for it ;)
working your abs will pull in the tummy. besides, what's wrong with a little bit of tummy? Once I gained enough fat, it all fell where it needed to. A few times my tummy got a little larger than I wanted it to, so I watch my diet, and it pulls back in. The body is almost infinitely customizable even without surgeries
Quote from: Oriah on August 02, 2013, 09:04:14 PM
working your abs will pull in the tummy. besides, what's wrong with a little bit of tummy? Once I gained enough fat, it all fell where it needed to. A few times my tummy got a little larger than I wanted it to, so I watch my diet, and it pulls back in. The body is almost infinitely customizable even without surgeries
It is true, you can do a lot w/o surgeries. But it does in the end come down to genetics and bone structure. Yes, I could do years worth of squats and hip building stretches. But do I want to do that? Not really ;) I don't want to have to pay so much attention to my body... I feel like I already have enough to pay attention to if you know what I mean!
Ultimately I was not blessed with the hip bone gene that some MtF's are lucky enough to have. Not even my mom has that wide of hips, but her shoulders are much closer together so it doesn't look like she's disproportioned at all.
When standing without thinking about it, my shoulders are much wider than my hips. It's been a constant source of dysphoria since I was about 12 and actually the first body related trans signal I ever had.
I am glad I got over the implant idea. It seems so much more natural using your own fat. I feel like the mental ramifications of having implants (other than breast implants because they are so widely accepted) would make life a little different.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 02, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
It is true, you can do a lot w/o surgeries. But it does in the end come down to genetics and bone structure. Yes, I could do years worth of squats and hip building stretches. But do I want to do that? Not really ;) I don't want to have to pay so much attention to my body... I feel like I already have enough to pay attention to if you know what I mean!
Ultimately I was not blessed with the hip bone gene that some MtF's are lucky enough to have. Not even my mom has that wide of hips, but her shoulders are much closer together so it doesn't look like she's disproportioned at all.
When standing without thinking about it, my shoulders are much wider than my hips. It's been a constant source of dysphoria since I was about 12 and actually the first body related trans signal I ever had.
I am glad I got over the implant idea. It seems so much more natural using your own fat. I feel like the mental ramifications of having implants (other than breast implants because they are so widely accepted) would make life a little different.
I had a similar problem, disliking the width of my shoulders, but I figured out with the proper posturing they appear much smaller. I don't know how you carry yourself, but once I trained my body to walk with a more erect spine and shoulders held up and back, it ceased to be a problem.
Hope that helps
I'm also in the boat of having little body fat. It was one of things that got dropped like a hot potato when I started down this path. My gut is all but gone now and I never had much of a butt.... Hym...
I wonder how much fat is still in my waist now that my muscles has essentially "pulled" it in from working out?
I mean while I don't mind the thought of bad food to build what I need I do mind the thought of ever being at an u healthy weight again.
Quote from: Christine167 on August 02, 2013, 10:33:55 PM
I'm also in the boat of having little body fat. It was one of things that got dropped like a hot potato when I started down this path. My gut is all but gone now and I never had much of a butt.... Hym...
I wonder how much fat is still in my waist now that my muscles has essentially "pulled" it in from working out?
I mean while I don't mind the thought of bad food to build what I need I do mind the thought of ever being at an u healthy weight again.
just remember, 10% body fat is optimum for a male, but 20% body fat is optimum for a female. If you get closer to 20% body fat you may appear more feminine
Quote from: Oriah on August 02, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
just remember, 10% body fat is optimum for a male, but 20% body fat is optimum for a female. If you get closer to 20% body fat you may appear more feminine
I'm definitely not that little or overly built. I'm 6'2" and rather lanky. I do like my legs and I'm hoping to add just a little butt and thigh on to complete their look. It's one of those things I was looking to have done after a couple of years of HRT. My mother has a nice figure in that way so I'm hoping that it translates well to me. But if it does not then if it is affordable and safe I will give it a go.
Besides I just bought some short shorts and hopefully they will eventually look great on me ;)
This is really interesting. I've really been looking into fat transfer but I haven't seen much before/after of transgender patients. I'm really interested though and I've talked to surgeons on Realself who claim it's one of the best surgeries to feminize my body, proportionally anyway.
I've never really been skinny. Since I turned 14 I've always been fat. I've worked some of it off but I'm still 170 at 5'8 wanting to get down to 135..:( But I'm not sure anymore, I'm hoping to get this surgery and I'm like you, I started HRT 7 months ago when I was 18. My proportions haven't changed much and I'm doing corset training on occasion but I find must of my mass going up..:(
I'm really interested in your search for the right surgeon. I hope it goes well.
E.V.
Quote from: BurningBrilliance on August 03, 2013, 12:47:58 AM
My proportions haven't changed much and I'm doing corset training on occasion but I find must of my mass going up..:(
E.V.
How do you feel about the corset training and where did you shop for your corset? I. Thinking of getting an underbrush or waist cincher but I'm worried that the sizing might not reflect what a transgender person might need?
Can you not just naturally gains bit if weight then have the excess from your tummy removed? Seems so much easier than transfer plus all the fat will have blood supply so u will get to keep all of it, not 50 percent.
Quote from: BurningBrilliance on August 03, 2013, 12:47:58 AM
This is really interesting. I've really been looking into fat transfer but I haven't seen much before/after of transgender patients. I'm really interested though and I've talked to surgeons on Realself who claim it's one of the best surgeries to feminize my body, proportionally anyway.
I've never really been skinny. Since I turned 14 I've always been fat. I've worked some of it off but I'm still 170 at 5'8 wanting to get down to 135..:( But I'm not sure anymore, I'm hoping to get this surgery and I'm like you, I started HRT 7 months ago when I was 18. My proportions haven't changed much and I'm doing corset training on occasion but I find must of my mass going up..:(
I'm really interested in your search for the right surgeon. I hope it goes well.
E.V.
I bet you are an ideal candidate for it, honestly. I am pretty sure the doctor is going to tell me that I need to gain weight in order to have enough fat to balance out the shoulders.
Quote from: Akira21 ♡♡♡ on August 03, 2013, 06:15:09 AM
Can you not just naturally gains bit if weight then have the excess from your tummy removed? Seems so much easier than transfer plus all the fat will have blood supply so u will get to keep all of it, not 50 percent.
After watching a few videos of it done, it seems like lipo is the rough part and re injection the easy part. I wouldn't want to waste my fat either, because I've been working SO hard to get it ;) ;)
Jenny your already a beautiful woman I really don't see why you would put yourself through this. Chasing perfection by going under the knife is not the answer. But that's just my opinion it's your life! :)
Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 08:32:41 AM
Definitely better to be unhappy instead of going under the knife -_- ...
What's so bad with surgery? It costs money sure, but what else?
What makes you think that a surgery can bring you happiness? Odds are you'll just start focusing the next part you don't like. And so on and so on till your left with nothing original just look at Michael Jackson need I say more. Maybe I'll never be 100% passible or beautiful??? ::) But you know what I'll be
Human! ;)
Heather, being human is nothing to aspire to! :-P not that I am arguing with ur point which is possibly right. If I had jenny's looks I would be very very grateful. But then again if I had jenny's money I might also spend it on tweaks, so I don't know!
Quote from: Akira21 ♡♡♡ on August 03, 2013, 08:54:47 AM
Heather, being human is nothing to aspire to!
I know my opinion is going to be in the minority here. The way I feel is I'm a combination of all those who that came before me. And to alter that is like spiting in their face and telling they were not good enough. First its surgery's but what if in the future they give you the ability to alter your DNA do you do that too? To me there is some lines I won't cross this is a moral issue with me and I know my way of thinking is going to be considered antiquated but I plan on staying the imperfect trans woman I am. But I know the march towards human perfection is inevitable and there is nothing that will change that. :-\
Quote from: Heather on August 03, 2013, 08:00:05 AM
Jenny your already a beautiful woman I really don't see why you would put yourself through this. Chasing perfection by going under the knife is not the answer. But that's just my opinion it's your life! :)
I concur. If you want the surgery and have the money, it's okay to go through it; however, please don't feel like this NEEDS to be done. Surgery isn't always the answer, and I've seen cases where it has been more harmful. Having said that, I don't mean to come across as judgemental. It's your right to do what you want. Just think about your options and find what is best fir you. Good luck either way. :)
Jennygirl,
Take my advice as well as the advice of others here, you look just fabulous already and we know there are not that many cis women with perfect measurements. Let it go and don't allow yourself to be swept away with the obsessive compulsion for a lot of unnecessary slicing and dicing because in the long run it won't bring you any more happiness than you already have. Just be yourself and get past perfectionism otherwise it will always become just another hump to get over on the road ahead and your life will be like the movie "Groundhog Day!" You're already standing in a rose garden, sit back and smell the roses hon!
Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.
With all due respect, everyone was trying to be supportive in their own way. No one will judge Jenny's decision. There was no bad intentions involved. Like surgery and hrt, it is up to her to decide if it is needed -not anyone else. However, many of us want her to know that she passes well and that the surgery may not be necessary. And like srs there risks involved that SHOULD be considered. Again, only she can decide that if it is or isn't worth it depending on her level of dysphoria or what she is looking for.
I wonder if instead of leaving your tummy alone and trying to boost your hips artificially, it wouldn't be more effective to eat more (in some sensible weight-gain sort of diet), gain the hips you will have on HRT, prolly gain a cup size upstairs as well, and THEN do a sculpting liposuction to remove any additional love handle/tummy that you are worried about gaining. Might work if you are looking at some form of surgery anyway, and removing fat artificially seems like it would always look more natural than adding it artificially....
Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.
Well actually before I cut it out my last post. I did have have my thoughts on hrt and the ethics of it all (which is too late now) But I thought I was going too far off the original topic. And this will be the last I say on this subject. If you want to turn yourself into a Barbie doll go ahead do it! ;)
Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.
It comes from having been around for a long time in the TG world and observing how overly obsessed we can become with our bodies, bits and overall appearance to the extent that we are never happy. I'm trying to encourage others to learn to be content when they have become as obviously attractive and easily passable as Jenny is.
Quote from: Christine167 on August 03, 2013, 05:05:09 AM
How do you feel about the corset training and where did you shop for your corset? I. Thinking of getting an underbrush or waist cincher but I'm worried that the sizing might not reflect what a transgender person might need?
I bought this corset here, http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html. (http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html.) Size 30 because my natural waist is like 34, with corset I can bring it down to 31 but fat is pushed around the top of the corset and my shoulders are just as bad. I think I might be able to lose chest mass as in muscle and that will make my shoulders appear less broad.
As for corset training I think you should go for the clincher. I haven't done intensive training because I'm lazy but I put it on once in a while. IT IS BULKY. Though I'm thinking of going for a smaller size I hear a clincher feels more natural and is better for your body shape.
Quote from: Shantel on August 03, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
I'm trying to encourage others to learn to be content when they have become
And Your doing a very good job Shantel Thank You! :)
Hey girls!
One of the things that makes me feel most self conscious about myself is my waist in regards to my hips. I want some of the waist to go to my hips and im sure very many of us feel this way. I have done research and discovered that the best way to achieve this look is through fat transfer AKA Brazillian Butt Lift. As was already described in the posts above, fat is transferred (After purification) into your hips from your waist, flanks, behind your arms etc. This can give the patient the desired look (through sculpting) that they wish for.
I have yet to get the surgery, but I am going to book consultations with several doctors and see if they can give me what i am looking for. I am not a big person so I would assume they would want me to gain weight BUT at the same time maybe they can transfer whatever cells I have rather easily and work with that.
Doctors that often come up in my searches are Ghuarani (spelling?) , Campos, and Markmann. I think (from what I have read, heard from other people) that Markmann is the one to go to. He is also by far the most expensive one, approaching 20k. I have read on reputable doctors in latin America charging well under 10k, if not under 5.
If you want to know all you can on lipo transfers, go to www.realself.com (http://www.realself.com) and look it up. One of the highest rating for patient satisfaction.
The ONLY thing I cannot find is long term testimonials. I have heard of girls being satisfied 3 years later but as for people who have had the transfer for 10 years +, no answer.
And for all the ladies saying "be natural" or "go work out" well yes, that works too, but no way are you going to get that Kim K rear.
Google search Jennifer Paris, Carmen Carrera, missjlove and you will see some (Trans!) girls with big bootay!
Quote from: BurningBrilliance on August 03, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
I bought this corset here, http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html. (http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html.) Size 30 because my natural waist is like 34, with corset I can bring it down to 31 but fat is pushed around the top of the corset and my shoulders are just as bad. I think I might be able to lose chest mass as in muscle and that will make my shoulders appear less broad.
As for corset training I think you should go for the clincher. I haven't done intensive training because I'm lazy but I put it on once in a while. IT IS BULKY. Though I'm thinking of going for a smaller size I hear a clincher feels more natural and is better for your body shape.
Well the link gives a 401 but at least there is a site that I know I can buy something in my size from. I'm a 34" waist as well so the 30" corset sounds good to me. I don't wan't the blocky goblet shape but I certainly wouldn't mind taking it in an inch so so.
Missy do you know of anyone who did the natural thing and worked out who started rail thin and worked into having more butt? I have a hard time believing that working that hard on my bottom and things would do anything but give me that extra toned and defined muscled look which I don't think would be good on me.
Quote from: missy1992 on August 03, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
And for all the ladies saying "be natural" or "go work out" well yes, that works too, but no way are you going to get that Kim K rear.
Google search Jennifer Paris, Carmen Carrera, missjlove and you will see some (Trans!) girls with big bootay!
Kim K's bootay is repulsive and out of proportion with the rest of her height to width ratio and hardly reflects anything normal to the cis female world. I haven't seen the others, but what woman wants to be known for outlandishly sized boobs or butt? Wouldn't it be better to fit into the cis norm rather than draw unnecessary attention for having oversized body parts? Isn't the idea to be passable rather than "Look at my big ass"?
I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say :)
I don't want a Kim K rear. I don't even think hers is shaped that well... A lot of times it looks kind of big and flat. My goal is to have a frontal hip profile that is proportional to my shoulders. A thin waist is a bonus. I want to forget about certain things that have bothered me as far back as I can remember... like wanting a totally feminine hip shape and derriere. It's seriously been a bother for me since I was 12.
I appreciate the controversy, it tells me that people are looking out for each other here. That is really important!
That said, this is a very safe procedure. There is basically no chance of the body rejecting the injected fat because it is your own tissue. Not only that, but I don't have much fat to work with so my results will be somewhat minimal and that is okay with me.... like I said I am not looking for a Kim K rear, just a little correctional width! I feel that for the most part it will be unnoticeable to others, but very noticeable to me on the inside. I think I will feel more genuinely feminine, because I hold waist and hip curvature at the top of my list of feminine body traits- I always have and always will.
Being able to embody the traits that I see as wholly feminine is an opportunity I am not going to pass up. Especially if it is a very safe procedure performed by a top 3 surgeon in that field, not to mention a procedure with results that look and feel completely natural. No worries at all.
I really appreciate all the responses. And yeah, missy1992, you pretty much nailed it on the head as far as how I feel, too!
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say :)
This is clearly the intent, you look pretty darned fine as is and everyone wants to complement you for that!
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I don't want a Kim K rear. I don't even think hers is shaped that well... A lot of times it looks kind of big and flat. My goal is to have a frontal hip profile that is proportional to my shoulders. A thin waist is a bonus. I want to forget about certain things that have bothered me as far back as I can remember... like wanting a totally feminine hip shape and derriere. It's seriously been a bother for me since I was 12.
think I will feel more genuinely feminine, because I hold waist and hip curvature at the top of my list of feminine body traits- I always have and always will.
Then that would certainly qualify your need to get it done, go for it Jenny! We all like to kick around the pros and cons of various issues, after all isn't this a support site rather than a place where we criticize one another for having a diversity of thoughts and ideas about various issues?
I feel like I should also mention: I haven't had ANY cosmetic surgeries (I consider trach shave and laser to be merely correctional).
I am not chasing perfection. Nothing is perfect. Facially, I have learned to embrace the masculine traits I have from certain angles. For me, the hips are different. It's literally been a main concern my entire life and the source of years worth of anxiety, confusion, and depression that I am going to gladly overwrite with positive victory notes once and for all.
Sure there is a whole range of figures for cis females. But that's exactly like saying sure there is a wide range of facial traits.
How is this any different from a lot of FFS operations (other than being less risky)?
Quote from: Shantel on August 03, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
This is clearly the intent, you look pretty darned fine as is and everyone wants to complement you for that!
Then that would certainly qualify your need to get it done, go for it Jenny! We all like to kick around the pros and cons of various issues, after all isn't this a support site rather than a place where we criticize one another for having a diversity of thoughts and ideas about various issues?
Yeah I don't consider the "opposing" reactions here a bad thing at all. I put opposing in quotes because really it just feels more supportive than anything and it's easy to see that's how the comments were intended :D
Also, I decided to bring this up because I knew it would be somewhat of a controversial topic based on the response I received months ago when hip augmentation was brought up in someone else's thread.
I know hips are something that a lot of trans women struggle with so I want to try to help by documenting my process through this part of the journey. And I totally encourage any other women to share their experiences here as well.
Quote from: Christine167 on August 03, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
Missy do you know of anyone who did the natural thing and worked out who started rail thin and worked into having more butt?
Yes. I don't know ANYONE who has NOT achieved a significant improvement with diet and exercise alone. You are only limited by your genetics, and thankfully you can push your genes to work to their full potential.
Now, if you want things to work out well, you want to get everything on your side. Clean diet, cardio, squats, lunges, dead lifts etc. There are three muscles you must work out in your derriere, gluteus maximus, minimus , and I believe the middle one is called medius. Also start soon, obviously someone doing this in their teens is going to end up "better off" or at least have a better time than someone who is older (because testosterone will make your rib cage, clavicle, shoulders etc bulk (grow?))
There is a girl here from Brazil. Iirc she posted in the before and after thread (maybe the one that has been archived though). She has only worked out and she has a beautiful body! (Keep in mind she started young, but even in your late teens/early 20s you have still gone through the most possible masculinization).
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say :)
But what is "necessary?" God forbid I had a tumour in me, then I would need to have that removed. Or if I was in a car accident (god forbid!) and then I needed a blood transfusion.
I WANT a larger bum and hips. So what if I strive for that? I have already had FFS (and almost everyone unanimously said I didn't "need" to) and SRS. Breast Augmentation is on the horizon for the end of this year, beginning of 2014. I am going to do my homework on the Brazilian Butt lift thing, and im going to do it if I feel its "Right" for me.
One thing though ladies, the recovery for this procedure is rather stringent. You absolutely CANNOT I repeat CANNOT sit on your bum for 4-6 weeks. This may damage the graft... and it will not hold. Or one side will recover better than the other. If you cannot dedicate that time to recovery do not bother ... it would be a waste of money.
fwiw off the top of my head I know two girls on this forum that had a fat graft. Search Vanna's profile here and also Tesla.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 02, 2013, 03:45:49 PM
SNIP
As far as my worries... I am worried about not having enough fat to make a correctional difference. I've gained about 17 pounds since my lowest weight in March or April, but I still wonder if I am too thin. Either way, I know that having my tummy and waist lipo'd would make a big difference.
Has anyone tried fat transfer to their hips and care to share their experience? There isn't that much info specifically about MtF's undergoing this operation. I thought I remembered reading Tessa having fat transfer to hips but I can't remember for sure?
Any input is appreciated! :D
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Quote from: Jamie, Bana-phrionnsa Gaidhealtachd on August 03, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
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Sure, if you want to become trans fat. ;D There is a case for attempting to put on weight by eating fish high in Omega-3 and low in mercury. My choice is mackerel and then salmon.
I had my back and sides lipo'd and grafted to my outer thighs. It made a very subtle difference. I was going for a second follow-up procedure when I had to divert funds for other surgeries including SRS. My second procedure was going to take from my inner thighs and around my belly button and transfer to the outer thighs. I may go again next year.
First procedure, my surgeon reckoned I had about 700ml that could be lipo'd. My back was where I had an accumulation of fat, not my belly. It turns out that after purifying the 700ml, 300ml was left to graft. 150ml into each thigh. The post surgery photos I've seen of those with more dramatic outcomes appear to have had literally rolls of fat to transfer. Anyway, I do love the lack of love handles, which is far more noticeable than the actual graft itself.
There's also some nice panties out there with hip and butt enhancements.
Quote from: Nicolette on August 04, 2013, 04:14:08 AM
Anyway, I do love the lack of love handles, which is far more noticeable than the actual graft itself.
I've worked my ass off at the gym for several years and conclude that love handles are permanent, there is nothing outside of lipo that will take them away. I'm with you on this Nicolette, this is something I plan to get done which along with what I have already achieved which will maximize my waist definition to hip ratio and they can keep the fat, I produce plenty without any help.
Nicolette- that is great to know that you've had almost this exact thing done! Thank you so much for sharing! I guess the thing I am most concerned about is having realistic expectations, and it sounds from your experience like that will be very important.
I have a small bunch of questions for you
• which doctor did you go to and when?
• what were your pre-op stats? i.e. height, weight, measurements
• what were your post-op stats?
Sorry, I know it's kind of a lot of info at once. I'm really curious, though :) Feel free to PM me instead- I don't want to put you on blast.
Thanks again for posting about it!
Also I forgot to respond to another part of your post, I have read previously that estrogen tells the body to store Omega 3's in the hips.. I have long been a pescatarian so this works out well :) I think I will start upping my Omega 3 intake.
Quote from: Jamie, Bana-phrionnsa Gaidhealtachd on August 03, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Eat as many of these as you can ...
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Great, now I have cravings :(
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Eat as many of these as you can ...
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As a radical vegetarian, this is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen,lol. :)
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
I feel like I should also mention: I haven't had ANY cosmetic surgeries (I consider trach shave and laser to be merely correctional).
I am not chasing perfection. Nothing is perfect. Facially, I have learned to embrace the masculine traits I have from certain angles. For me, the hips are different. It's literally been a main concern my entire life and the source of years worth of anxiety, confusion, and depression that I am going to gladly overwrite with positive victory notes once and for all.
Sure there is a whole range of figures for cis females. But that's exactly like saying sure there is a wide range of facial traits.
How is this any different from a lot of FFS operations (other than being less risky)?
I guess I am just very afraid of surgery of any kind and that comes out in these posts. I doubt I could ever handle going through FFS even if I had the means to do it. I will have SRS at some point, but I don't even know how to deal with that. I have had surgery in that region before and it was painful and not fun. So for me, I think FFS, SRS and any surgery should be done only if you feel you need to have it and there is no way avoiding it. It sounds like that is where you are. If you are okay with the surgery, have no fears, and have the resources, then go for it. Just please make sure you are safe.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 11:04:47 AM
Also I forgot to respond to another part of your post, I have read previously that estrogen tells the body to store Omega 3's in the hips.. I have long been a pescatarian so this works out well :) I think I will start upping my Omega 3 intake.
Forget those silly Omega-3 supplements though. Oily fish contains far more useful fat. Omega-3 from vegetables is also pretty much useless. I'm pretty much pescatarian myself. Trans fat is your enemy, so avoid that at all costs.
LTL- Yes surgery for me is equally as scary. But in my case both surgeries I've had so far (trach shave + voice surgery) have been 100% necessary through my eyes.
And I feel exactly the same for this surgery, if not even more necessary than the voice surgery. I've been seeking ways to augment my hips for almost a decade of my life already... even before I fully realized my trans-ness. Needless to say, I was very confused with myself living as a male ;) LOL. Now, everything makes perfect sense to me. I am extremely willed to have this done in the safest & most effective way. I am positive it is the right surgery for me.
There has been some mention of my resources to fund this along with the rest of my transition... and I do want to touch on that because I don't like feeling that people see me as Ms. Moneybags... ;) I guess the comment of "if I had Jenny's money" is why I want to talk about it a little.
When I was in my early 20s, I had very little money. Just barely enough to live comfortably. I was by a large margin the lowest paid graduate in my class a year out of design school. I had always just hoped that someday I would be able to afford this "fix" for my body, but most of the time it seemed downright unattainable and I feared that I might be stuck with crappy paying jobs forever. That is when I battled severe agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder which debilitated me for almost a year, but I still kept working towards a goal. Concurrently, that was the most severe bout of dysphoria I've ever had as well- besides the most recent one (jumping ahead of myself now) which spawned my transition... This time, though, I had the funds to do something about it.
Some might say that I've been very lucky with finding a well paying job, but I know it's because I've put in years worth of blood sweat and tears and taken risks against my family's wildest discouragements. In '07, I dropped my career in Ohio and moved to LA where I was immediately working 90-120hr weeks and still not getting paid much more than I was in the midwest. But, I trusted deep down that it would be worth it in the long run because the work was better and I was building my portfolio. After almost a year of that crazy job, I took another risk and went freelance because I couldn't handle the hours (and more so because my end all goal since grade 7 was to be a successful freelancer living in California). It didn't start out smoothly and I had to search for gigs day in and day out, but over the past 5 years I've managed to build a client base to the point where I no longer have to hustle for work. I've built my reputation and people know to seek me out for specialized tasks in the field. It has been a joyous ride with small accomplishments that eventually added up, but by no means was it easy or effortless (not saying that anyone thought that I'm just sayin'). I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)
Alright I'm gonna go buy a few tubs of Salmon now. Byeeee :D :D LOL
Don't apologize for being successful Jenny. There is nothing wrong with making money and then spending it on things you deem necessary to your happiness. I wouldn't be doing much different from you if I had more money right now.
Well I would prolly get my nose straigtened and my face resurfaced if I had the money but it's not necessary in the sense I don't pass without the procedures. I'm not sure about my shoulder ratio. My shoulders are like 13-14 inches wide and my waist is 28 inches and my hips are 35 inches. So that seems good. But I still think I look pretty straight. Maybe not.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
LTL- Yes surgery for me is equally as scary. But in my case both surgeries I've had so far (trach shave + voice surgery) have been 100% necessary through my eyes.
And I feel exactly the same for this surgery, if not even more necessary than the voice surgery. I've been seeking ways to augment my hips for almost a decade of my life already... even before I fully realized my trans-ness. Needless to say, I was very confused with myself living as a male ;) LOL. Now, everything makes perfect sense to me. I am extremely willed to have this done in the safest & most effective way. I am positive it is the right surgery for me.
There has been some mention of my resources to fund this along with the rest of my transition... and I do want to touch on that because I don't like feeling that people see me as Ms. Moneybags... ;) I guess the comment of "if I had Jenny's money" is why I want to talk about it a little.
When I was in my early 20s, I had very little money. Just barely enough to live comfortably. I was by a large margin the lowest paid graduate in my class a year out of design school. I had always just hoped that someday I would be able to afford this "fix" for my body, but most of the time it seemed downright unattainable and I feared that I might be stuck with crappy paying jobs forever. That is when I battled severe agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder which debilitated me for almost a year, but I still kept working towards a goal. Concurrently, that was the most severe bout of dysphoria I've ever had as well- besides the most recent one (jumping ahead of myself now) which spawned my transition... This time, though, I had the funds to do something about it.
Some might say that I've been very lucky with finding a well paying job, but I know it's because I've put in years worth of blood sweat and tears and taken risks against my family's wildest discouragements. In '07, I dropped my career in Ohio and moved to LA where I was immediately working 90-120hr weeks and still not getting paid much more than I was in the midwest. But, I trusted deep down that it would be worth it in the long run because the work was better and I was building my portfolio. After almost a year of that crazy job, I took another risk and went freelance because I couldn't handle the hours (and more so because my end all goal since grade 7 was to be a successful freelancer living in California). It didn't start out smoothly and I had to search for gigs day in and day out, but over the past 5 years I've managed to build a client base to the point where I no longer have to hustle for work. I've built my reputation and people know to seek me out for specialized tasks in the field. It has been a joyous ride with small accomplishments that eventually added up, but by no means was it easy or effortless (not saying that anyone thought that I'm just sayin'). I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)
Alright I'm gonna go buy a few tubs of Salmon now. Byeeee :D :D LOL
Oh... no one sees you as miss moneybags,lol. I'm sure you worked to get where you are and you have earned what you have. I mentioned the ability to afford the surgery because it is a general concern for everyone whether they have money or not. At the end of the day, the ability to pay for a procedure is very important as that is the only way it can get done. That's what I meant by go for it if you have the ability to do so.
It seems like you know what you are doing. So go for it. After all, I was totally wrong about the voice surgery in the past and you have convinced me to look into it if I can one day afford it. By this standard on who is right, Jenny 1 vs LTL 0,lol.
Sorry about my little In-N-Out four-by-four cheese burger joke. ;)
Yes, they are fattening.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)
Jenny you didn't need to explain your situation. You earned your money and I would never doubt for a second you didn't bust your butt off to get it! Most successful people do bust their butts off to get we're there at. ;)
The thing that worries me most about my body is the upper torso. My shoulders are huge and although my hips are rounding off its still so disproportional. My love handles are big and like I said corseting only makes my shoulders appear broader. I'm wondering if they can take some of the fat off the upper back and move it to my butt. I still have some muscle there but it really worries me. I'm only 19 which is still pretty bad considering I went through so many years of T, but I'm hoping time will help me femininize and surgery will just complete it.
Also, Jenny I've seen the videos on your youtube channel. Your results are amazing :) I know this seems a little off topic but can you tell me about getting your voice done? I'm really interested and your voice is so amazing I didn't think that kind of surgery could be so successful.
Jenny, I can appreciate your desire to be more curvy, but I'm kind of afraid for you when it comes to surgery. I've heard little good about it and some real horror stories. Hip implants are popular with TG porn performers and to me they usually end up looking more like caricatures of women than real women. Perhaps they overdo it, but one thing I've noticed about implants, whether boobs or other places is that their final position and appearance is very unpredictable.
One porn type, Sarina Valentina, has publicly expressed regrets for getting her hip implants and says they have given her ongoing pain and other problems. Sadly, I'd have to say she'd look much better without them, anyway.
Desire to correct hip size is not just a TG thing, of course. Lots of G-women wish they could be bigger or smaller in that area as well. I think at some point you have to decide where you're going to stop and just find a way to love yourself as you are at that point.
Good luck.
~ Lyric ~
Quote from: Shantel on August 04, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
I've worked my ass off at the gym for several years and conclude that love handles are permanent, there is nothing outside of lipo that will take them away. I'm with you on this Nicolette, this is something I plan to get done which along with what I have already achieved which will maximize my waist definition to hip ratio and they can keep the fat, I produce plenty without any help.
It's a relatively simple procedure and a damn effective one at fat removal. Fat cell don't regrow after removal, unless one puts on a considerable amount of weight. It's possibly permanent or very long lasting. And of course, it's not a substitute for healthy eating habits and exercise, which I probably obsess with.
Quote from: Lyric on August 04, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
One porn type, Sarina Valentina, has publicly expressed regrets for getting her hip implants and says they have given her ongoing pain and other problems.
She DID NOT have hip implants. She got silicone injections which are illegal. They are causing her a great deal of harm now and are not fully removable.
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)
I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.
Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)
I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.
Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
I'm glad to hear you changed your mind. Jenny you are skinny as hell and have plenty of space for fat distribution to do the same job.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)
I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.
Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
I'm glad you thought deeply about the risks. That's what most of us were concerned about from the get go. If you aren't comfortable with them and don't feel 100 percent it's the right choice, then you are making the right decision.
Quote from: MaidofOrleans on August 04, 2013, 06:34:57 PM
I'm glad to hear you changed your mind. Jenny you are skinny as hell and have plenty of space for fat distribution to do the same job.
I agree with this.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)
I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.
Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
I'm glad to hear it girl. Trust me your already a beautiful woman. And if you want to put on weight just try eating more foods with fat in it. Not saturated fat mind you just regular fat that has done the trick for me. But my genetics make it easy for me to put on weight. But look on the bright side you can fit in clothes I can only dream about wearing. ;)
Thanks Missy, for correcting my facts. The unpredictability of implant results is still a consideration, though.
Jenny, you'd be wise to give it some time time to see how your body changes-- even a few years. When you're in your 20s you want everything right now, but with things like body changes, slow is probably best.
Try to find pictures of MTF who had hip implants. No matter what material was used, no matter if she's dressed or not, it looks downright WEIRD and out of proportion.
Ciswomen have 'space' between their upperlegs, because of their female hip joints, cis men don't and that's exactly why hip implants on a MTF are a deadgive away.
Looking like 2 strange bulges on both sides of male hips.
Quote from: Dahlia on August 05, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
Try to find pictures of MTF who had hip implants. No matter what material was used, no matter if she's dressed or not, it looks downright WEIRD and out of proportion.
Ciswomen have 'space' between their upperlegs, because of their female hip joinsts, cis men don't and that's exactly why hip implants on a MTF are a deadgive away.
Ciswomen should have a 'space', but a lot don't, because of weight issues, and a lot have severe chafing issues because of it.
Dahlia is right, the pelvic and hip bones create a wider and different geometric relationship between the thighbones than those parallel thighbones of a cis male.
Female is more like this: V
Male is more like this: ii
Seriously why are we so focused on hip joints? Do I have male hip joints yes do I care no! There is a lot of things that can get us clocked and I doubt hip joints is one of them. The only people focusing on these parts is us no one else really cares. ;)
Honestly, I'm a little dissappointed how this thread turned out. I'm planning on getting having body contouring surgery in the future and I was really hoping to see someone else go through with it, oh, well. :(
Anyway I'm going to have to do a little research of my own then, wish me luck.
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 02:21:51 PM
Seriously why are we so focused on hip joints? Do I have male hip joints yes do I care no! There is a lot of things that can get us clocked and I doubt hip joints is one of them. The only people focusing on these parts is us no one else really cares. ;)
Not much to do with anything really, females do walk and move differently though just because of that difference. I'm certainly not going to ask any female to drop her drawers so that I can discern whether she is biologic or not. :D :icon_peace:
Quote from: Shantel on August 05, 2013, 02:29:34 PM
Not much to do with anything really, females do walk and move differently though just because of that difference. I'm certainly not going to ask any female to drop her drawers so that I can discern whether she is biologic or not. :D :icon_peace:
Yeah they do but with some practice you can move just like a woman. ;)
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 02:43:25 PM
Yeah they do but with some practice you can move just like a woman. ;)
One of the reasons I opted out of the MtF designation for androgyne is that there's so much male stuff to unlearn and so much female stuff to learn, I'm too damned lazy to make a concerted effort. I don't want to have a big wardrobe loads of shoes or absolutely be unable to leave the house without making up my face and doing my nails, but I digress and am guilty of inadvertently moving off topic.
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 02:21:51 PM
The only people focusing on these parts is us no one else really cares. ;)
Very true. But this also applies to SRS, BA and FFS.
Quote from: Nicolette on August 05, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
Very true. But this also applies to SRS, BA and FFS.
I'm kinda guilty myself with the SRS. But I'm not doing that for anyone else but myself. :)
Quote from: Shantel on August 05, 2013, 02:50:50 PM
One of the reasons I opted out of the MtF designation for androgyne is that there's so much male stuff to unlearn and so much female stuff to learn, I'm too damned lazy to make a concerted effort. I don't want to have a big wardrobe loads of shoes or absolutely be unable to leave the house without making up my face and doing my nails, but I digress and am guilty of inadvertently moving off topic.
Yeah I will admit you kinda have to be somewhat dedicated I've spent the past two weeks practicing my walk on a treadmill for forty minutes a day. And walking like that everywhere I go. Yeah it's not to easy but it's not really all that hard either. Now my voice that's a whole different story. :-\
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 03:03:45 PM
I'm kinda guilty myself with the SRS. But I'm not doing that for anyone else but myself. :)
That's a good enough reason if ever there was one. :-*
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Yeah I will admit you kinda have to be somewhat dedicated I've spent the past two weeks practicing my walk on a treadmill for forty minutes a day. And walking like that everywhere I go. Yeah it's not to easy but it's not really all that hard either. Now my voice that's a whole different story. :-\
Yes you are making big progress Heather. But like Nicolette mentioned FFS, I need it huge but can't afford it now and am unwilling to eventually because of my age. Even though I have the desire I had to concede that this is a younger person's endeavor.
Quote from: Shantel on August 05, 2013, 03:12:58 PM
Yes you are making big progress Heather. But like Nicolette mentioned FFS, I need it huge but can't afford it now and am unwilling to eventually because of my age. Even though I have the desire I had to concede that this is a younger person's endeavor.
Speaking FFS I would never have it but the feature of my face that bothers me the most is my nose. But the thought of not being able to breath properly out of my nose for quite sometime scares me too much to ever consider having it fixed.
Quote from: Heather on August 05, 2013, 03:37:25 PM
Speaking FFS I would never have it but the feature of my face that bothers me the most is my nose. But the thought of not being able to breath properly out of my nose for quite sometime scares me too much to ever consider having it fixed.
I can't count how many cis females had what I would consider much bigger problems than whatever you think you are seeing.
Regarding the female V gap, it's actually possible to give the optical illusion of a larger gap through liposculpture. By moving fat from the inner thighs to the outer thighs. I was on the verge of doing this when more pressing needs came to my attention.
Yes, I had to down a few beta-blockers when it came to surgery around my nose that blocked my nostrils. I had panic attacks from not being able to breath through my nose at night.
Consultation scheduled with Dr. Campos on August 22nd!! :D
They said they may be able to squeeze me in sooner, so maybe even sometime later this week!
My god they are busy. During the 10 minute call, the coordinator had to put me on about 5 short holds to answer all the incoming calls. Phone literally ringing off the hook. I have a good feeling about this. It's is exactly what I would expect from a top notch surgeon.
And about the gap in between the legs- this is something I am aware of and I'm going to inquire about inner thigh lipo as part of the procedure.
I'm guessing you changed your mind? Only you know what is right for you, so do what you feel is best. Good luck and keep us updated! :)
Oh, no, my mind hasn't changed. I didn't want implants even when I started the thread. I think fat transfer is the way to go for me. We will see what the doctor has to say!
Trying not to get my hopes up too much, though. I've lost a few lbs and I have a feeling he will say I need to gain a lot more to actually augment the hips.
Regardless, it's just a consultation and by no means indicative that I'll be having this surgery at all. I just really hope it works out!
That's great to hear. I hope it turns out well. ;D
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 05, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
Trying not to get my hopes up too much, though. I've lost a few lbs and I have a feeling he will say I need to gain a lot more to actually augment the hips.
He may not say this. The thing is, if you do gain weight for the procedure then you will need to maintain that weight in perpetuity to maintain the effect. But the fat cells won't die if you do go back to your lower weight. They'll just sit around sulking until you put weight back on.
Quote from: Nicolette on August 06, 2013, 03:20:47 AM
He may not say this. The thing is, if you do gain weight for the procedure then you will need to maintain that weight in perpetuity to maintain the effect. But the fat cells won't die if you do go back to your lower weight. They'll just sit around sulking until you put weight back on.
True I was wondering about this. Like, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong)... your body is not going to make more fat cells unless you gain enough that it needs to create more because the current set of cells is stretched to their max capacity. And to my understanding that is the whole reason that there are stem cells in fat cells.. because if the body needs more storage, it can make more room.
145 is the heaviest I have ever been, so I suppose that is a good thing right now :P If I were to gain more weight, maybe I would have a shot at making some new fat cells- not just filling up the ones I already have.
Either way it seems like gaining a little would also help with exposing where the fat cells are.. making it presumably easier to have a smooth result.
I have also seen it mentioned by doctors posting on realself that fat tends to behave like it did in the donor spot. i.e. if you have a fatty area that is very stubborn with exercise and diet (such as the flanks) there is a higher chance that if you do lose weight post-op, that fat will not go into "hiding" as quickly as it would if it was taken an area that slims down quickly with exercise and diet.
Very interesting! That is going on my list of questions!
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 06, 2013, 03:43:58 AM
True I was wondering about this. Like, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong)... your body is not going to make more fat cells unless you gain enough that it needs to create more because the current set of cells is stretched to their max capacity. And to my understanding that is the whole reason that there are stem cells in fat cells.. because if the body needs more storage, it can make more room.
Your metabolism will maintain a specific weight. Women who lipo all the fat off their belly and hips find that they start putting weight on their upper body and arms.
My surgeon said one needs to become close to obese to create new fat cells.
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Either way it seems like gaining a little would also help with exposing where the fat cells are.. making it presumably easier to have a smooth result.
That makes sense. It's bit like magnifying the donor areas to see where they are. And to see which areas are predisposed and sensitive to gaining fat.
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I have also seen it mentioned by doctors posting on realself that fat tends to behave like it did in the donor spot. i.e. if you have a fatty area that is very stubborn with exercise and diet (such as the flanks) there is a higher chance that if you do lose weight post-op, that fat will not go into "hiding" as quickly as it would if it was taken an area that slims down quickly with exercise and diet.
Very interesting! That is going on my list of questions!
If fat cells have a memory then that sounds quite promising.
And the gap between the thighs. All the evidence I've seen, SRS can really help with that one..
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Silicone injections or "pumping" is not an acceptable topic of discussion here. I have removed several posts, please do not bring the subject up again. Thank you, hugs, Devlyn
Case in point:
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This pumper was arrested for killing one of her "clients."
And notice the very minimal space between the legs.
Quote from: Jamie D on August 06, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Case in point:
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This pumper was arrested for killing one of her "clients."
Ugh, that is so repulsive! ::)
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on August 06, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
And notice the very minimal space between the legs.
That minimal space is the least of her worries. It's the chasm between her ears that is of greater concern.
I agree.. it shouldn't be a part of this thread. I'm glad you don't condone discussions of illegal black market surgeries.
Thank you mods for clearing it up!
As far as the space between the legs, too.. I'm not too worried about it because tbh so many cis females have inner thigh fat with no space there- unless they are really skinny.
Personally I love that my thighs touch together a little bit. To me it is kind of sensual/soft looking.
Quote from: Jamie D on August 06, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Case in point:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.nydailynews.com%2Fpolopoly_fs%2F1.980271%21%2Fimg%2FhttpImage%2Fimage.jpg_gen%2Fderivatives%2Flandscape_635%2Fbuttimplant20n-2-web.jpg&hash=0df1e7b3378f3cdf33b1da21dc9c2a9b6a34f3b0)
This pumper was arrested for killing one of her "clients."
What's the big deal? That looks completely natural looking to me. :laugh:
Seriously though, I don't care what people do to themselves as long as they don't harm others. Still, I'm glad it isn't in practice. Jenny, I am certain your procedure is very different and you will go about things in a much safer manner than that, but please don't let anything like that happen to you. We will all be sad. I know very little about this procedure, so I will use this thread as an educational experience.
Quote from: Jennygirl on August 06, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
I agree.. it shouldn't be a part of this thread. I'm glad you don't condone discussions of illegal black market surgeries.
Thank you mods for clearing it up!
<Dragnet voice> Just the Axe, ma'am.
The Deletion Axe, that is! >:-)
Quote from: Jamie D on August 06, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Case in point:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.nydailynews.com%2Fpolopoly_fs%2F1.980271%21%2Fimg%2FhttpImage%2Fimage.jpg_gen%2Fderivatives%2Flandscape_635%2Fbuttimplant20n-2-web.jpg&hash=0df1e7b3378f3cdf33b1da21dc9c2a9b6a34f3b0)
This pumper was arrested for killing one of her "clients."
The sad thing is I've seen women like this! :o
It's not going to turn into a thread about silicone injections. I've removed more posts. Locked.