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Correcting shoulder / waist / hip ratios

Started by Jennygirl, August 02, 2013, 03:45:49 PM

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Jennygirl

Also I forgot to respond to another part of your post, I have read previously that estrogen tells the body to store Omega 3's in the hips.. I have long been a pescatarian so this works out well :) I think I will start upping my Omega 3 intake.
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Dreams2014

Farewell to my friends, farewell to the life I knew. I burn what once was, and in the ashes I am born anew.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Jamie, Bana-phrionnsa Gaidhealtachd on August 03, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Eat as many of these as you can ...



As a radical vegetarian, this is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen,lol. :)

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
I feel like I should also mention: I haven't had ANY cosmetic surgeries (I consider trach shave and laser to be merely correctional).

I am not chasing perfection. Nothing is perfect. Facially, I have learned to embrace the masculine traits I have from certain angles. For me, the hips are different. It's literally been a main concern my entire life and the source of years worth of anxiety, confusion, and depression that I am going to gladly overwrite with positive victory notes once and for all.

Sure there is a whole range of figures for cis females. But that's exactly like saying sure there is a wide range of facial traits.

How is this any different from a lot of FFS operations (other than being less risky)?

I guess I am  just very afraid of surgery of any kind and that comes out in these posts.  I doubt I could ever handle going through FFS even if I had the means to do it.  I will have SRS at some point, but I don't even know how to deal with that.  I have had surgery in that region before and it was painful and not fun. So for me, I think FFS, SRS and any surgery should be done only if you feel you need to have it and there is no way avoiding it.  It sounds like that is where you are.  If you are okay with the surgery, have no fears, and have the resources, then go for it.   Just please make sure you are safe.
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Nicolette

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 11:04:47 AM
Also I forgot to respond to another part of your post, I have read previously that estrogen tells the body to store Omega 3's in the hips.. I have long been a pescatarian so this works out well :) I think I will start upping my Omega 3 intake.

Forget those silly Omega-3 supplements though. Oily fish contains far more useful fat. Omega-3 from vegetables is also pretty much useless. I'm pretty much pescatarian myself. Trans fat is your enemy, so avoid that at all costs.
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Jennygirl

LTL- Yes surgery for me is equally as scary. But in my case both surgeries I've had so far (trach shave + voice surgery) have been 100% necessary through my eyes.

And I feel exactly the same for this surgery, if not even more necessary than the voice surgery. I've been seeking ways to augment my hips for almost a decade of my life already... even before I fully realized my trans-ness. Needless to say, I was very confused with myself living as a male ;) LOL. Now, everything makes perfect sense to me. I am extremely willed to have this done in the safest & most effective way. I am positive it is the right surgery for me.

There has been some mention of my resources to fund this along with the rest of my transition... and I do want to touch on that because I don't like feeling that people see me as Ms. Moneybags... ;) I guess the comment of "if I had Jenny's money" is why I want to talk about it a little.

When I was in my early 20s, I had very little money. Just barely enough to live comfortably. I was by a large margin the lowest paid graduate in my class a year out of design school. I had always just hoped that someday I would be able to afford this "fix" for my body, but most of the time it seemed downright unattainable and I feared that I might be stuck with crappy paying jobs forever. That is when I battled severe agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder which debilitated me for almost a year, but I still kept working towards a goal. Concurrently, that was the most severe bout of dysphoria I've ever had as well- besides the most recent one (jumping ahead of myself now) which spawned my transition... This time, though, I had the funds to do something about it.

Some might say that I've been very lucky with finding a well paying job, but I know it's because I've put in years worth of blood sweat and tears and taken risks against my family's wildest discouragements. In '07, I dropped my career in Ohio and moved to LA where I was immediately working 90-120hr weeks and still not getting paid much more than I was in the midwest. But, I trusted deep down that it would be worth it in the long run because the work was better and I was building my portfolio. After almost a year of that crazy job, I took another risk and went freelance because I couldn't handle the hours (and more so because my end all goal since grade 7 was to be a successful freelancer living in California). It didn't start out smoothly and I had to search for gigs day in and day out, but over the past 5 years I've managed to build a client base to the point where I no longer have to hustle for work. I've built my reputation and people know to seek me out for specialized tasks in the field. It has been a joyous ride with small accomplishments that eventually added up, but by no means was it easy or effortless (not saying that anyone thought that I'm just sayin'). I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)

Alright I'm gonna go buy a few tubs of Salmon now. Byeeee :D :D LOL
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Joanna Dark

Don't apologize for being successful Jenny. There is nothing wrong with making money and then spending it on things you deem necessary to your happiness. I wouldn't be doing much different from you if I had more money right now.

Well I would prolly get my nose straigtened and my face resurfaced if I had the money but it's not necessary in the sense I don't pass without the procedures. I'm not sure about my shoulder ratio. My shoulders are like 13-14 inches wide and my waist is 28 inches and my hips are 35 inches. So that seems good. But I still think I look pretty straight. Maybe not.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
LTL- Yes surgery for me is equally as scary. But in my case both surgeries I've had so far (trach shave + voice surgery) have been 100% necessary through my eyes.

And I feel exactly the same for this surgery, if not even more necessary than the voice surgery. I've been seeking ways to augment my hips for almost a decade of my life already... even before I fully realized my trans-ness. Needless to say, I was very confused with myself living as a male ;) LOL. Now, everything makes perfect sense to me. I am extremely willed to have this done in the safest & most effective way. I am positive it is the right surgery for me.

There has been some mention of my resources to fund this along with the rest of my transition... and I do want to touch on that because I don't like feeling that people see me as Ms. Moneybags... ;) I guess the comment of "if I had Jenny's money" is why I want to talk about it a little.

When I was in my early 20s, I had very little money. Just barely enough to live comfortably. I was by a large margin the lowest paid graduate in my class a year out of design school. I had always just hoped that someday I would be able to afford this "fix" for my body, but most of the time it seemed downright unattainable and I feared that I might be stuck with crappy paying jobs forever. That is when I battled severe agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder which debilitated me for almost a year, but I still kept working towards a goal. Concurrently, that was the most severe bout of dysphoria I've ever had as well- besides the most recent one (jumping ahead of myself now) which spawned my transition... This time, though, I had the funds to do something about it.

Some might say that I've been very lucky with finding a well paying job, but I know it's because I've put in years worth of blood sweat and tears and taken risks against my family's wildest discouragements. In '07, I dropped my career in Ohio and moved to LA where I was immediately working 90-120hr weeks and still not getting paid much more than I was in the midwest. But, I trusted deep down that it would be worth it in the long run because the work was better and I was building my portfolio. After almost a year of that crazy job, I took another risk and went freelance because I couldn't handle the hours (and more so because my end all goal since grade 7 was to be a successful freelancer living in California). It didn't start out smoothly and I had to search for gigs day in and day out, but over the past 5 years I've managed to build a client base to the point where I no longer have to hustle for work. I've built my reputation and people know to seek me out for specialized tasks in the field. It has been a joyous ride with small accomplishments that eventually added up, but by no means was it easy or effortless (not saying that anyone thought that I'm just sayin'). I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)

Alright I'm gonna go buy a few tubs of Salmon now. Byeeee :D :D LOL

Oh... no one sees you as miss moneybags,lol.   I'm sure you worked to get where you are and you have earned what you have.  I mentioned the ability to afford the surgery because it is a general concern for everyone whether they have money or not.  At the end of the day, the ability to pay for a procedure is very important as that is the only way it can get done.  That's what I meant by go for it if you have the ability to do so.   

It seems like you know what you are doing.  So go for it.  After all, I was totally wrong about the voice surgery in the past and you have convinced me to look into it if I can one day afford it.  By this standard on who is right, Jenny 1 vs LTL 0,lol. 
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Jamie D

Sorry about my little In-N-Out four-by-four cheese burger joke.   ;)

Yes, they are fattening.
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Heather

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
I've busted my butt to get where I am today, don't doubt it for a second! :)
Jenny you didn't need to explain your situation. You earned your money and I would never doubt for a second you didn't bust your butt off to get it! Most successful people do bust their butts off to get we're there at.  ;)
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BurningBrilliance

The thing that worries me most about my body is the upper torso. My shoulders are huge and although my hips are rounding off its still so disproportional. My love handles are big and like I said corseting only makes my shoulders appear broader. I'm wondering if they can take some of the fat off the upper back and move it to my butt. I still have some muscle there but it really worries me. I'm only 19 which is still pretty bad considering I went through so many years of T, but I'm hoping time will help me femininize and surgery will just complete it.

Also, Jenny I've seen the videos on your youtube channel. Your results are amazing  :) I know this seems a little off topic but can you tell me about getting your voice done? I'm really interested and your voice is so amazing I didn't think that kind of surgery could be so successful.
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Lyric

Jenny, I can appreciate your desire to be more curvy, but I'm kind of afraid for you when it comes to surgery. I've heard little good about it and some real horror stories. Hip implants are popular with TG porn performers and to me they usually end up looking more like caricatures of women than real women. Perhaps they overdo it, but one thing I've noticed about implants, whether boobs or other places is that their final position and appearance is very unpredictable.

One porn type, Sarina Valentina, has publicly expressed regrets for getting her hip implants and says they have given her ongoing pain and other problems. Sadly, I'd have to say she'd look much better without them, anyway.

Desire to correct hip size is not just a TG thing, of course. Lots of G-women wish they could be bigger or smaller in that area as well. I think at some point you have to decide where  you're going to stop and just find a way to love yourself as you are at that point.

Good luck.

~ Lyric ~
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Nicolette

Quote from: Shantel on August 04, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
I've worked my ass off at the gym for several years and conclude that love handles are permanent, there is nothing outside of lipo that will take them away. I'm with you on this Nicolette, this is something I plan to get done which along with what I have already achieved which will maximize my waist definition to hip ratio and they can keep the fat, I produce plenty without any help.

It's a relatively simple procedure and a damn effective one at fat removal. Fat cell don't regrow after removal, unless one puts on a considerable amount of weight. It's possibly permanent or very long lasting. And of course, it's not a substitute for healthy eating habits and exercise, which I probably obsess with.
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missy1992

Quote from: Lyric on August 04, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
One porn type, Sarina Valentina, has publicly expressed regrets for getting her hip implants and says they have given her ongoing pain and other problems.
She DID NOT have hip implants. She got silicone injections which are illegal. They are causing her a great deal of harm now and are not fully removable.
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Jennygirl

Thanks for the understanding everyone :)

I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.

Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)

I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.

Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!

I'm glad to hear you changed your mind. Jenny you are skinny as hell and have plenty of space for fat distribution to do the same job.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Ltl89

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)

I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.

Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!

I'm glad you thought deeply about the risks. That's what most of us were concerned about from the get go.  If you aren't comfortable with them and don't feel 100 percent it's the right choice, then you are making the right decision. 

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on August 04, 2013, 06:34:57 PM
I'm glad to hear you changed your mind. Jenny you are skinny as hell and have plenty of space for fat distribution to do the same job.

I agree with this.
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Heather

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 04, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks for the understanding everyone :)

I decided against hip implants. As much as I'm not sure if I'll have enough fat to make a noticeable graft, it is not worth having a 3" scar on each hip and the possibility of an unnatural looking result.

Also I never considered silicone injections at all. Those aren't even an option for me- it's not only illegal but they usually result in the removal of tissue altogether due to infection or migration. So, in the end, you would end up having a disfigured body. Not at all worth it! Yipes!
I'm glad to hear it girl. Trust me your already a beautiful woman. And if you want to put on weight just try eating more foods with fat in it. Not saturated fat mind you just regular fat that has done the trick for me. But my genetics make it easy for me to put on weight. But look on the bright side you can fit in clothes I can only dream about wearing.  ;)
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Lyric

Thanks Missy, for correcting my facts. The unpredictability of implant results is still a consideration, though.

Jenny, you'd be wise to give it some time time to see how your body changes-- even a few years. When you're in your 20s you want everything right now, but with things like body changes, slow is probably best.
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Dahlia

 Try to find pictures of MTF who had hip implants. No matter what material was used, no matter if she's dressed or not, it looks downright WEIRD and out of proportion.

Ciswomen have 'space' between their upperlegs, because of their female hip joints,  cis men don't and that's exactly why hip implants on a MTF are a deadgive away.
Looking like 2 strange bulges on both sides of male hips.
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Nicolette

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Quote from: Dahlia on August 05, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
Try to find pictures of MTF who had hip implants. No matter what material was used, no matter if she's dressed or not, it looks downright WEIRD and out of proportion.

Ciswomen have 'space' between their upperlegs, because of their female hip joinsts,  cis men don't and that's exactly why hip implants on a MTF are a deadgive away.

Ciswomen should have a 'space', but a lot don't, because of weight issues, and a lot have severe chafing issues because of it.
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