I was looking at some of the answers for FTM/MTF dating and alot of people said it was easier, Know personally I pefer cis women and love everything about them, I just believe any relationship has problems, And two people with Gender dysphoria is a to me a headace waiting to happen, I mean I'm just curious how do you figure? I can understand the they understand you better thing but, I'd rather some who is cis try to understand me because it would make me feel so much better, I mean yea.... other trans people get it sure but I know some cis women who are also trying to understand me which is possible thats called step in my shoes
I've dated other trans men, and a trans woman before. While two people with gender dysphoria can grate on each other, I can't say for sure if it's more difficult than a relationship with a cis person. In those relationships, I felt more comfortable saying things like "Look I can't go out and be social, I'm dysphoric and can't deal with people" and for the most part that was accepted. It was harder with most of the cis people I've dated, simply because they didn't see why dysphoria would hinder some of my social activities outside of work. While I did have one girl who understood, the rest were just kind of weird about it.
With relationships, you can't be too general. What won't work for you could work for another couple, etc. Not everyone is the same, you know? You have to look at these things from an individual perspective. My previous relationships ended mostly due to other issues(distance, change of interests, etc), nothing to do with my gender dysphoria. If you don't think you can handle being in a relationship with someone who is trans, then don't go there. No one is forcing you. You choose who you date, etc.
I mean yea that's true
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKQJCC_RSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g35kGQGwwM8
It's possible. While I haven't dated an mtf, I would if I could but atm I have a serious cis gf who understands me 100% than any other female I dated.
I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.
It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.
It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.
Izzy
Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 15, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.
It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.
It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.
Izzy
That's really nice, I hope you guys have many more years to come! :laugh:
Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 15, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.
It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.
It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.
Izzy
Well I feel like anybody including cisgenders can be fully understanding it just takes patience
Sure they can, and all the more power to them if they want to learn and be a supportive partner. Some trans folks just tend to gravitate towards each other, though, and that's okay too.
Quote from: kaiju on September 15, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
Sure they can, and all the more power to them if they want to learn and be a supportive partner. Some trans folks just tend to gravitate towards each other, though, and that's okay too.
Yea they do, And it is ok, I'm just saying don't rule out cis folks because its difficult to understand and not something anyone can just get, Alot of transfolks have to take that in mind
I never said I personally ruled out cis folks??? Never thought I would have to say this, but wow okay here it goes. While I'm not keen on dating other trans people, I haven't shut myself off to the possibility. I can understand why they would want to avoid dating a cis person, too. Yes, people can be understanding or open to learning, but you also need to remember that being a trans person in a world that's ultimately hostile towards you is unnerving. You take a big gamble by coming out to someone or by putting yourself on the dating market. Someone can be kind to your face, hell, maybe you have a decent relationship. And then it goes sour for whatever reason.
That person holds a very dangerous piece of information about you in their hands. Someone with integrity would let go and keep your personal details to themselves, but this is still a person we're talking about. People are flawed and can choose to do incredibly messed up things if they feel they've been wronged. When emotionally wounded, humans will react with venom. Knowing they have something against the person that hurt them, they will likely choose to use this information to "get back" at their ex, etc. It seems like harmless relationship drama until the trans person is assaulted or - god forbid - killed because that information fell into the wrong hands.
Of course not all cis people are like that, and I've seen this kind of situation happen between trans couples as well, but it's a very valid fear and often the reason why a trans person will go out of their way to avoid romantic relationships with cis people. Sometimes it's just easier to not have to ~explain~ or to educate someone. Educating people is exhausting. If you don't have to spend a lot of time being the trans poster child, it can be better for your mental well being and promote a healthy relationship.
I don't take issue with someone wanting to clean up their dating pool to feel safer. Not all cis people are a threat or dangerous, but again, I understand why other trans people would want to avoid entangling themselves in relationships with them if they can.
That being said, I also find it equally unhealthy to only seek out someone because they're trans or cis(this is also directed at cis people who straight up chase or avoid trans people). You strip away the person beneath the label and avoid looking at who they are on the basis that "[cis/trans] people are more attractive/safer/better people to me" and that is not fair to the other party. Ultimately, you'll date who you want to date, but I still find the way people act when they're looking for a partner to be unsettling. It screams a lot about a person if they will go out of their way to say "TRANS/CIS PEOPLE ONLY".
To me it's know different from telling your significate other you have an STD though, But I personally pefer cis women, I don't think I could date another trans person to much for me
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
To me it's know different from telling your significate other you have an STD though, But I personally pefer cis women, I don't think I could date another trans person to much for me
Don't limit yourself to "Cis females" only, there's many mtf out there who are just as women as any cis female. Plus you won't know how it goes until you try it, so never say never and no I'm not a JB fan.
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Don't limit yourself to "Cis females" only, there's many mtf out there who are just as women as any cis female. Plus you won't know how it goes until you try it, so never say never and no I'm not a JB fan.
That's what I like bro, I always have loved the female body, I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male, And I can understand some straight cis women may feel the same way but their are alot that don't
Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
Dude did you just compare being trans to an std? An std is something that in most cases can be avoided if you are safe. Being trans isn't an accident. So kind of bad example
The explaining part you have to explain both, It's all in how you explain being trans
Well they are people just like us. And it could be not so good or great depending. A lot of the young trans girls have been on blockers. So that makes a huge difference. I dated a trans woman for about 8 months or so. We never actually broke up but I think I have started transitioning and so I look more male, so we are drifting apart a bit. She does not pass quite as well. Anyway we had a great time and she did not complain or any other behaviors I don't care for. And has a wicked sense of humor. I guess I am more of a person who values someoen for who they are and their personality. I didn't find her experiences triggering or anything. I think she has more family stuff going on and I had more body dysphoria so issues are not always the same. Since I am really active in the trans community, trans people are who I am most likely to meet. Just the way it is for me. It's a little harder for guys my age to date anyway.
--Jay
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
That's what I like bro, I always have loved the female body, I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male, And I can understand some straight cis women may feel the same way but their are alot that don't
I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.
I think it's fair enough if someone doesn't want to date a person with a penis (or vagina), regardless of their gender. If they're post-op that's more questionable...but you only have so much control over who you're attracted to.
So far I've only dated cis people. I'd date someone trans, but only if they were well into their transition/emotionally stable and everything. A lot of people just starting transition really want to talk about things like gender identity and the transition process all the time, and I would get quite bored with it. Or if they were having panic attacks over going outside, or were full of self-loathing...I'm definitely not the person to be dealing with that.
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.
Well would you want me to lie and say I'm fine with it knowing I'm not, I also want biological children would you call that shallow
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.
I think a large majority of people have at least one shallow expectation for their choice in partners, physical sex and/or gender presentation being a very common one (I'd guess about 99% of monosexual people). I don't think there's anything wrong about it either. If you are attracted to women and there's a woman that you are 100% attracted to based on personality alone, if she looks 100% male, you are being shallow if you can't look past it. The majority of physical transition is in itself a shallow pursuit as its based on appearance, yet 99% of the people on Susan's want to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to make it clear that I don't think being shallow is a bad thing, so this is not intended to be insulting in any way.
Quote from: Rossiter on September 15, 2013, 06:26:09 PM
I think it's fair enough if someone doesn't want to date a person with a penis (or vagina), regardless of their gender. If they're post-op that's more questionable...but you only have so much control over who you're attracted to.
So far I've only dated cis people. I'd date someone trans, but only if they were well into their transition/emotionally stable and everything. A lot of people just starting transition really want to talk about things like gender identity and the transition process all the time, and I would get quite bored with it. Or if they were having panic attacks over going outside, or were full of self-loathing...I'm definitely not the pers
on to be dealing with that.
I feel you that's what I'm saying
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 06:31:32 PM
I think a large majority of people have at least one shallow expectation for their choice in partners, physical sex and/or gender presentation being a very common one (I'd guess about 99% of monosexual people). I don't think there's anything wrong about it either. If you are attracted to women and there's a woman that you are 100% attracted to based on personality alone, if she looks 100% male, you are being shallow if you can't look past it. The majority of physical transition is in itself a shallow pursuit as its based on appearance, yet 99% of the people on Susan's want to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to make it clear that I don't think being shallow is a bad thing, so this is not intended to be insulting in any way.
Yea, That's true
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 06:30:43 PM
Well would you want me to lie and say I'm fine with it knowing I'm not, I also want biological children would you call that shallow
How's does that even compare to being shallow?
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 06:31:32 PM
I think a large majority of people have at least one shallow expectation for their choice in partners, physical sex and/or gender presentation being a very common one (I'd guess about 99% of monosexual people). I don't think there's anything wrong about it either. If you are attracted to women and there's a woman that you are 100% attracted to based on personality alone, if she looks 100% male, you are being shallow if you can't look past it. The majority of physical transition is in itself a shallow pursuit as its based on appearance, yet 99% of the people on Susan's want to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to make it clear that I don't think being shallow is a bad thing, so this is not intended to be insulting in any way.
(shallow) = bold part not about what he likes.
P.s I was trying to find a better word to find to describe that him being also transgender and saying he couldn't get passed an mtf being bio male once..Is sort of what? shallow, hypocritical, ironic?? "wow" not focusing on the fact he doesn't like a mtf with male part or male features. (just to make it clear)
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
(shallow) = bold part not about what he likes.
I agree, its not a good reason to not like someone for what they used to be like. I'm not sure shallow would be the word I would use though. Transphobic, maybe?
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
How's does that even compare to being shallow?(shallow) = bold part not about what he likes.
P.s I was trying to find a better word to find to describe that him being also transgender and saying he couldn't get passed an mtf being bio male once..Is sort of what? shallow, hypocritical, ironic?? "wow" not focusing on the fact he doesn't like a mtf with male part or male features. (just to make it clear)
I'm lost you just called me shallow because of my oppion
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 06:44:05 PM
I agree, its not a good reason to not like someone for what they used to be like. I'm not sure shallow would be the word I would use though. Transphobic, maybe?
Wait wait hold up know I'm not transphobic theirs lots of other reasons I would not date a transwomen, That's just one of many
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
How's does that even compare to being shallow?(shallow) = bold part not about what he likes.
P.s I was trying to find a better word to find to describe that him being also transgender and saying he couldn't get passed an mtf being bio male once..Is sort of what? shallow, hypocritical, ironic?? "wow" not focusing on the fact he doesn't like a mtf with male part or male fe
atures. (just to make it clear)
Wait so because I like women parts and I'm turned on by women parts if you will I'm transphobic, Shallow, Or a hypocryte
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
Wait wait hold up know I'm not transphobic theirs lots of other reasons I would not date a transwomen, That's just one of many
Now that I understand what Exus meant by shallow, I see it as the same as saying you wouldn't date someone who is skinny(which is fine if that's not what you're attracted to) but also adding on that you wouldn't date someone who used to be skinny. It just doesn't make sense.
Let me remind you that you said "used to be biologically male" as in not anymore.
Lets all try and get along ok?
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 06:47:26 PM
Wait so because I like women parts and I'm turned on by women parts if you will I'm transphobic, Shallow, Or a hypocryte
No, as I said before I was trying to find a better word, I used the wrong word "shallow" which was incorrect for that statement you made. (Not liking someone or not being able to look passed the fact someone was born bio male but isn't anymore) I get you won't like the male parts and voice etc.. that's understandable but it's hard to swallow when a transgender will judge someone based on their previous sex. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.
English isn't my native language so excuse the misunderstanding.
Quote from: Darkie on September 15, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
Lets all try and get along ok?
No fighting, just misused of words and misunderstandings. ;D
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:54:08 PM
No, as I said before I was trying to find a better word, I used the wrong word "shallow" which was incorrect for that statement you made. (Not liking someone or not being able to look passed the fact someone was born bio male but isn't anymore) I get you won't like the male parts and voice etc.. that's understandable but it's hard to swallow when a transgender will judge someone based on their previous sex. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.
English isn't my native language so excuse the misunderstanding.
I understand know, I didn't want to offend anyone specifically trans women, They tend to get mad when I say that, Which is far from my intentions, Because I'm not that type of guy
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male
Well, I understand what you're saying but please try to be tactful when stating your opinions. You do know that MTF bottom surgery is leaps and bounds better than any options we have, right? After their SRS you'd never know they were MAAB, unless they disclosed. They're very lucky in that aspect.
You're young Brandon, and opinions/feelings do change with time. I wouldn't close myself off to the possibility of happiness because of some preconceived notion you may currently hold. There are a lot of Transwomen who are far more feminine than cis women. If I was single I would happily date a transwoman. Why? Because I would know she would see me for me. A lot of cis heterosexual females feel the same way about us that you do about transwomen. Personally I have only had luck with lesbians, bisexual, and curious women. Strictly heterosexual women are hard to come by for a transman...and even more so for a pre op transman.
I don't think it's "that easy" necessarily. Every individual is different, so the relationship being easier or harder would depend on all the people involved. I'm personally not opposed to the idea of dating another trans person.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
I understand know, I didn't want to offend anyone specifically trans women, They tend to get mad when I say that, Which is far from my intentions, Because I'm not that type of guy
It's great that you're not that type or guy, but please try listening better when people tell you that you're being offensive, even if you think your opinions are harmless. You don't have to be doing something on purpose for it to be hurtful.
Quote from: Si on September 15, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
You're young Brandon, and opinions/feelings do change with time. I wouldn't close myself off to the possibility of happiness because of some preconceived notion you may currently hold. There are a lot of Transwomen who are far more feminine than cis women. If I was single I would happily date a transwoman. Why? Because I would know she would see me for me. A lot of cis heterosexual females feel the same way about us that you do about transwomen. Personally I have only had luck with lesbians, bisexual, and curious women. Strictly heterosexual women are hard to come by for a transman...and even more so for a pre op transman.
Simon is right, but I'd also just like to add that as you get older, looks and physiology start to matter less and less. Sure, most people have their idea of their "fantasy" partner but are perfectly happy dating or marrying someone who does not completely fit their fantasy. You can still have a wonderful life together, great sex, feel they are attractive, even if they don't fit into your fantasy.
Transwomen are real women too, seriously, you're going by stereotypes if you believe all transwomen are tall, have deep voices, and so on.
Look over at the MTF board's photo section--there's a lot of good looking women over there! :) Many, you'd never be able to tell, such as awhile ago I was on youtube looking at makeup tutorials and ran across PrincessJoules, I watched a few videos thinking she was cis-female, than bam, she starts talking about being an MTF. She's totally hot. Nowadays, more and more trans people are transitioning younger, and surgeries are getting better, so people aren't going to be falling into the stereotypes that it seems you're thinking of.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
That's what I like bro, I always have loved the female body, I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male, And I can understand some straight cis women may feel the same way but their are alot that don't
Let's flip this now Brandon. Lets imagine somebody says to you 'look Brandon, I can't go out with you because of your female parts and you used to be biologically female'. That would hurt you wouldn't it? Reading what you wrote stung like hell, as I'm sure it did to others and I'm pretty sure it would to you if somebody was that cruel to say that to you. Please think about what you're saying.
Quote from: Si on September 15, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Well, I understand what you're saying but please try to be tactful when stating your opinions. You do know that MTF bottom surgery is leaps and bounds better than any options we have, right? After their SRS you'd never know they were MAAB, unless they disclosed. They're very lucky in that aspect.
You're young Brandon, and opinions/feelings do change with time. I wouldn't close myself off to the possibility of happiness because of some preconceived notion you may currently hold. There are a lot of Transwomen who are far more feminine than cis women. If I was single I would happily date a transwoman. Why? Because I would know she would see me for me. A lot of cis heterosexual females feel the same way about us that you do about transwomen. Personally I have only had luck with lesbians, bisexual, and curious women. Strictly heterosexual women are hard to come by for a transman...and even more so for a pre op transman.
I already know mtf surgery is good but I want a natal born woman, And I already know some straight women feel that way about transguys I'm just not into dating other trans people
Quote from: Joey. on September 15, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
Let's flip this now Brandon. Lets imagine somebody says to you 'look Brandon, I can't go out with you because of your female parts and you used to be biologically female'. That would hurt you wouldn't it? Reading what you wrote stung like hell, as I'm sure it did to others and I'm pretty sure it would to you if somebody was that cruel to say that to you. Please think about what you're saying.
Bro I've already had that happen plenty of times, But I can understand why some females would say that, That's why it doesn't get to me like it did when I was a freshmen I'm jr know and I have matured alot since then, I don't take that much offence to it know, Because I know their are plenty of cis straight women who will date me
Quote from: LearnedHand on September 15, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
Simon is right, but I'd also just like to add that as you get older, looks and physiology start to matter less and less. Sure, most people have their idea of their "fantasy" partner but are perfectly happy dating or marrying someone who does not completely fit their fantasy. You can still have a wonderful life together, great sex, feel they are attractive, even if they don't fit into your fantasy.
Transwomen are real women too, seriously, you're going by stereotypes if you believe all transwomen are tall, have deep voices, and so on.
Look over at the MTF board's photo section--there's a lot of good looking women over there! :) Many, you'd never be able to tell, such as awhile ago I was on youtube looking at makeup tutorials and ran across PrincessJoules, I watched a few videos thinking she was cis-female, than bam, she starts talking about being an MTF. She's totally hot. Nowadays, more and more trans people are transitioning younger, and surgeries are getting better, so people aren't going to be falling into the stereotypes that it seems you're thinking of.
I'm just not attracted to that, What is wrong with wanting a natal born woman I do want biological children
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:33:47 PM
Bro I've already had that happen plenty of times
The difference is, they weren't on a transgender support website.
Then you know how it feels?! So why would you say something like that about a transwoman? It's completely out of order and I'd expect better from somebody who knows how it feels.
Brandon WE KNOW YOUR VIEWS, so just keep them to yourselves. If you don't want to date transwomen keep it to yourself! You're insulting people.
You know your likes and dislikes, but coming here and saying "I want a natal born women" is just disgusting. You started this post knowing you wouldn't change your mind. It seems to me like you were looking to insult people.
Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
No matter what you do you'll never have a child that has both your genes and your wife's genes Brandon. So her being cis isn't going to help in that department.
Never say never. Of course that would mean that a transwoman WOULD in fact be a possible partner.
Quote from: Joey. on September 15, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
Then you know how it feels?! So why would you say something like that about a transwoman? It's completely out of order and I'd expect better from somebody who knows how it feels.
Wait so I'm wrong for wanting biological children and wanting a natal woman a together
Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
No matter what you do you'll never have a child that has both your genes and your wife's genes Brandon. So her being cis isn't going to help in that department.
I don't believe that nice try though, It will happen one day
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
I don't believe that nice try though, It will happen one day
When it does (I believe it will too) what makes you think a transwoman won't be able to be the mother?
Quote from: LearnedHand on September 15, 2013, 08:37:05 PM
Brandon WE KNOW YOUR VIEWS, so just keep them to yourselves. If you don't want to date transwomen keep it to yourself! You're insulting people.
You know your likes and dislikes, but coming here and saying "I want a natal born women" is just disgusting. You started this post knowing you wouldn't change your mind. It seems to me like you were looking to insult people.
No that wasn't my intentions you want me to lie and say I'm fine with it, I'm sorry if I did offend anyone but don't jump down my throat for what I like and what I attracted to, It seems like you guys are trying to gang up on me
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
Wait so I'm wrong for wanting biological children and wanting a natal woman a together
No, just stating it the way you did is offensive to a degree, that's all they're trying to tell you and I tried to tell you.
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 08:42:51 PM
When it does (I believe it will too) what makes you think a transwoman won't be able to be the mother?
Never said it wasn't but they already found a way to make sperm, I could freeze my eggs I also look exactly like my dad, Spit and image
Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
I was talking about a cis woman. And realistically if they can't even figure out how to give us bottom surgery at the awesome level that they do with mtf's I doubt they will figure out the other stuff. It would be awesome as hell though. And phallo is still pretty awesome depending on who does it. So not knocking the surgery down! I'm just saying I don't see it happening in our lifetime
I'm not referring to sperm production or anything of the like. Just taking genes from the mother and the father and creating an embryo.
We're not ganging up on you. We don't want you to lie, but what was your intention starting a thread to ask about how it's like dating a transwoman, just to sit here and make comments that are insulting to trans people. You knew you would not be interested in dating transwomen, so what was the point? Why it seems like people gang up on you is because you are very insensitive when you post things.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Never said it wasn't but they already found a way to make sperm, I could freeze my eggs I also look exactly like my dad, Spit and image
Probably not what you were intending but it sounds like you want to have a child with yourself here......that could be interesting. Probably really high risk of birth defects.
Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
No, just stating it the way you did is offensive to a degree, that's all they're trying to tell you and I tried to tell you.
Ok Ive been told I'm strictly dickly from numerous girls to my face, But I don't get offended by it anymore, Because they sound dumb for saying it, Thoes girls who said don't deserve me, Trust me Ive been called some hurtful stuff, But can understand other peoples POVs, I don't get offended by every little thing anymore
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
Wait so I'm wrong for wanting biological children and wanting a natal woman a together
I personally feel there is nothing wrong with not wanting to date a trans person. No one is obligated to like our bodies or find us attractive like anything else in life. However, it IS wrong to be a jerk about it. The truth is, cis or not, as it stands right now you won't have bio kids the "traditional" way. Because it is currently impossible for trans men to get a woman pregnant. I know you think I'm a jerk or something, but I'm not trying to be one. I'm also not going to put facts aside because you don't like them. You've got to learn to think before you speak. You don't like me making you dysphoric? Don't do it to a trans woman either. See what I'm saying? You don't like people rejecting you based on your history and you blatantly and flippantly do it to someone else. It's fine if you don't like trans people romantically or sexually or whatever, but you've got to be respectful.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
Ok Ive been told I'm strictly dickly from numerous girls to my face, But I don't get offended by it anymore, Because they sound dumb for saying it, Thoes girls who said don't deserve me, Trust me Ive been called some hurtful stuff, But can understand other peoples POVs, I don't get offended by every little thing anymore
Again, nobody can stop others from being offensive in the real world. But you are on Susan's and there's restrictions on free speech here.
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 08:47:26 PM
Probably not what you were intending but it sounds like you want to have a child with yourself here......that could be interesting. Probably really high risk of birth defects.
No I meant I look enough like my dad for me and my future wifes child to have both of our genes, Were a split mage of eachother, Matter of fact if I cut all my hair off into a fade like his you would think we were twins
I'm not even going to answer your question. I'm done with your opinions and this thread. I'll just end up saying something I regret.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:51:01 PM
No I meant I look enough like my dad for me and my future wifes child to have both of our genes, Were a split mage of eachother, Matter of fact if I cut all my hair off into a fade like his you would think we were twins
And if you didn't look like your dad that would make a difference?
Quote from: Darrin Scott on September 15, 2013, 08:50:02 PM
I personally feel there is nothing wrong with not wanting to date a trans person. No one is obligated to like our bodies or find us attractive like anything else in life. However, it IS wrong to be a jerk about it. The truth is, cis or not, as it stands right now you won't have bio kids the "traditional" way. Because it is currently impossible for trans men to get a woman pregnant. I know you think I'm a jerk or something, but I'm not trying to be one. I'm also not going to put facts aside because you don't like them. You've got to learn to think before you speak. You don't like me making you dysphoric? Don't do it to a trans woman either. See what I'm saying? You don't like people rejecting you based on your history and you blatantly and flippantly do it to someone else. It's fine if you don't like trans people romantically or sexually or whatever, but you've got to be respectful.
I was not trying to be a jerk though, I'm not trying to be rude again you want me to lie about it, No because that would be right I'm an honest guy
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:53:40 PM
I was not trying to be a jerk though, I'm not trying to be rude again you want me to lie about it, No because that would be right I'm an honest guy
Brandon, I could say a lot of honest things about you that would get me banned on Susan's. :D
Think about that.
It sounds to me like you're using "honesty" as an excuse to be disrespectful. You can definitely do better than that. Try a little harder.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:53:40 PM
I was not trying to be a jerk though, I'm not trying to be rude again you want me to lie about it, No because that would be right I'm an honest guy
You can be honest and tactful. I personally have no interest in dating trans people personally. But I don't go around saying it. In fact, a few people here hold that belief and don't want to date a trans person. You're missing my point and I think it's time for me to leave the thread too. This is getting ridiculous.
Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 08:52:19 PM
Brandon part of me feels like you say things just to get a rise out of people. That or because you've been hurt you just want others on here to feel like you do. You want to be treated like an adult? Act like one. People are saying you are hurting them. Stop making posts like this that hurt people on here. Just because it doesn't hurt you doesn't mean it doesn't hurt others. We are on here for support. Not to hear the same ignorance we can hear out in the real world.
Dude you got me twisted everything you said is far from what I'm trying to do, Bleliev what you want though, Just know i didn't post this question to hurt anyone this was a serious question
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
Dude you got me twisted everything you said is far from what I'm trying to do, Bleliev what you want though, Just know i didn't post this question to hurt anyone this was a serious question
The question is not the offensive part, its the post that you got smited for and several after that.
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Never said it wasn't but they already found a way to make sperm, I could freeze my eggs I also look exactly like my dad, Spit and image
I was 13 when I started to do some research on the matter where two females could have a child. It's been done in Tokyo Japan by a scientist but on animals. I had a book with notes and such but threw it away because the risks are high and it usually resulted in failure more often than positive results. Another scientist found the way as well but he also shut down the idea because of the high risk of death from both the "child" and mother. (I forgot the name of the process- but basically they took the DNA of one of them and created it into sperm or so.)
anyways Brandon, try to be more sensitive when you post things. Being called a "d*ck" and not caring about it isn't something "good"
Quote from: Alice Danielle on September 15, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
Brandon, I could say a lot of honest things about you that would get me banned on Susan's. :D
Think about that.
Yea and none of it would be true, You haven't even met me in person, So how are you gonna judge me, Your judging me based on what I'm putting on here
Quote from: Lucas R on September 15, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
It sounds to me like you're using "honesty" as an excuse to be disrespectful. You can definitely do better than that. Try a little harder.
I'm really not but ok
Hi friends :police:
This little circus has gone around in circles long enough
Topic locked
Thank you
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