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Big hug! You have value, Beth. You're one of the nicest people I've ever met. Lighten up on yourself, please? Hugs, Devlyn
I second what Devlyn said. You're a wonderful person and I've always enjoyed your posts here. I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do. :(
*BIG HUGS*
Amy
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 08, 2013, 08:16:51 PM
Big hug! You have value, Beth. You're one of the nicest people I've ever met. Lighten up on yourself, please? Hugs, Devlyn
Oh yes, online I'm wonderful.
Occasionally I even get to meet people who know me online. That's when we stop talking.
Tell me, what value do I have? I am too quiet, too anxious...can't even get out of my own damn apartment (I've been home since 330, it's 630pm right now, 3 hours, I'm hungry but can't go out shopping or to eat...I...damn this sucks. Depressive episode, type 1)
*sigh*
eta: Thanks for the hugs, btw. Not quite the same effect as a touch IRL, but we get what we get, eh?
Sounds more like it was your turn to rant. Everyone needs an outlet and obviously this space is here for you.
You are not worthless, nor are you doomed to spend your life out of human reach of love and hugs without having to be used for sex. It may mean a bit of wait but it will happen sooner or later. The person who will be a true fiend will be that person who you didn't even notice but they noticed you. That person will like many of your likes and life will be good. Just not yet.
The friends you have here are real even though they are out of reach. Cling to that and use your time away from here to do a hobby without thinking( I know, hard to do) about people so much. Learn to like who you are as you get more into discovering who that is.
Meanwhile, this is for you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcR7P5I3VFINnfUSinweEh5YkGaO4mL4Pj9qqJ3TmjsAsrv_U66-&hash=df909151e9a123cba81e7975391ca18f78a27485) & (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-S1pQigCB-s8%2FT_aXt8S1_oI%2FAAAAAAAAHaI%2FI1s7-tYcy5w%2Fs400%2FChocolate-Festival-Kona-Hawaii.jpg&hash=18c269407d7487d03bc47637db0801d0a36e4070)
Beth, you're counting negatives and that's always a mistake. We count what we do have. Cherish the good in your life and use it like a ladder. Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 08, 2013, 08:35:42 PM
Beth, you're counting negatives and that's always a mistake. We count what we do have. Cherish the good in your life and use it like a ladder. Hugs, Devlyn
oh hell yeah, a mistake. That's what I do very well. :'(
I haven't got the skill yet to count a positve; one has to realize it is a positive.
Oh screw it, I need to tlak to my the*apist about this.
Please Devlyn, give me some generic good things and I'll see about being positive. (I really and honestly do not know how to see positives)
Oh, let me try first:
I'm working. Full time employment.
I have a place to live.
I have decent clothes.
I'm "out" and F***ING PROUD OF IT, DAMMIT!
My car and I get a LOT of "thumbs up" when people see it...
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 08, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
oh hell yeah, a mistake. That's what I do very well. :'(
I haven't got the skill yet to count a positve; one has to realize it is a positive.
Oh screw it, I need to tlak to my the*apist about this.
Please Devlyn, give me some generic good things and I'll see about being positive. (I really and honestly do not know how to see positives)
Oh, let me try first:
I'm working. Full time employment.
I have a place to live.
I have decent clothes.
You're not counting!
4. Charming smile.
5. Huge circle of friends, whether you care to admit it or not.
6. The best car ever!
Your turn. Hugs, Devlyn
Yeah, ya'all are good friends. Thanks. :-*
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
I'm "out" and F***ING PROUD OF IT, DAMMIT!
My car and I get a LOT of "thumbs up" when people see it...
I have a few. You stand up for what you believe in, that's a positive. You usually seem to hold up a goo attitude, that's a positive.
You have an amazing heart, but you let your mind get in the way too much.
Just need to stay outta there, if you're any bit like me that's a terrible place to be!
Mad modeling and kitbashing skills!
Quote from: Lexi Belle on November 08, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
I have a few. You stand up for what you believe in, that's a positive. You usually seem to hold up a goo attitude, that's a positive.
You have an amazing heart, but you let your mind get in the way too much.
Just need to stay outta there, if you're any bit like me that's a terrible place to be!
Oh yeah, my mind is a freaky place...actually it's several freaky places, and a couple of second-hand stores too, I think.
The difficulty is that I am healing from my past, and sometimes it gets in the way of the present...or the present gets in the way of healing...occasionally the waitress dumps the whole tray, scattering salt shakers and little packages of jam everywhere...
Most of the time I get off the computer and spare everyone the experience...but yeah this time...it's great to see everyone.
Quote from: JRae on November 08, 2013, 08:54:49 PM
You funny, you so frigging funny sometimes, me go HA HA!
I do wonder about my jokes and/or sense of humor...but I write things that make me laugh...
I like Monty Python, well most of it anyway.
CAMELOT!!! *
banging two coconuts together*clippity clop clippity clop clippity clop*
ok, break time. [ Christmas Vacation]Gonna get something to eat, so I can take my back pills...[ /Christmas Vacation]
Sorry to hear you were feeling down but glad you're up a bit now. Didn't see the original post but got the gist of things and I have to agree with the others, you've got a great heart and it's always helpful to see the positives in your life and use them to balance out the blues. :)
Quote from: LordKAT on November 08, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
Meanwhile, this is for you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcR7P5I3VFINnfUSinweEh5YkGaO4mL4Pj9qqJ3TmjsAsrv_U66-&hash=df909151e9a123cba81e7975391ca18f78a27485)
So cute!
Quote from: Ms Grace on November 08, 2013, 10:03:19 PM
Sorry to hear you were feeling down but glad you're up a bit now. Didn't see the original post but got the gist of things and I have to agree with the others, you've got a great heart and it's always helpful to see the positives in your life and use them to balance out the blues. :)
So cute!
I'm just not used to seeing the positives. Looking for them, and then convincing myself that those ARE good things, helped stall the power-dive I was in...then of course the pic of chocolate, flowers, horsies, and suchlike.
This whole thing was brought on by an especially vivid flashback to my youth, involving activities that no youth of that age should experience...I was at work when this flashback happened, and it took everything I could to stuff the memory back in its little shoebox.
Unfortunately it came out immediately once I got home...so I basically shut down (which I do normally anyway, but this time it was to endure a memory. But Susan's people came to the rescue).
I still haven't left my apartment yet to get anything to eat. 5 hours since getting home, and haven't even dressed yet.
Beth, if you were in a good mood all the time, you'd be annoying :)
So we thank you for taking one for the team here and having a crappy day :)
Look on the bright side, it will be someone else's turn tomorrow.
Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on November 08, 2013, 10:50:10 PM
Beth, if you were in a good mood all the time, you'd be annoying :)
So we thank you for taking one for the team here and having a crappy day :)
Look on the bright side, it will be someone else's turn tomorrow.
That's a bright side?
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 08, 2013, 08:26:21 PM
Oh yes, online I'm wonderful.
Occasionally I even get to meet people who know me online. That's when we stop talking.
Tell me, what value do I have? I am too quiet, too anxious...can't even get out of my own damn apartment (I've been home since 330, it's 630pm right now, 3 hours, I'm hungry but can't go out shopping or to eat...I...damn this sucks. Depressive episode, type 1)
*sigh*
eta: Thanks for the hugs, btw. Not quite the same effect as a touch IRL, but we get what we get, eh?
I pretty much know your felling. I suffer from depression and anxiouty and I had OCD in my past. I am pretty good to hide it in school so I think my classmates wont belive me, but alone its something ells and somethimes I stuggle just to get outside somethimes.
My reasons are obvious I experience what I shouldnt, death threatning, and ridiculours hate speaks or false rumours.
I think the only reason why im able to get outside is because I make clear for myself that fear should not take over my life So I had really forced myself to move my comfortzone but its only obvious if we experience harshness it gonna be there in the back of our head somewhere.
I think the only thing you can do is try to move forward. as it said, when you reach the bottom you can only get up.
you may not get better in 2 hours or tomorrow or you problems may not be gone in a week, but baby steps is nessesarry.
Do you have some people you trust? maybe you could move your comfortzone by going out with them on a cafe or something. I did that with my Mtf friend when she where to go fulltime. I think it made it more easy to go out when she wasnt alone.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
I'm "out" and F***ING PROUD OF IT, DAMMIT!
My car and I get a LOT of "thumbs up" when people see it...
I get honks, but thats because I have "Honk if your horny" on my car lol. Maybe one day we'll find each other and i'll give you a thumbs up and you'll give me a honk ;D
Hugs,
I have a positive not previously mentioned. I have seen pics of some of the dishes you have made and they look fantastic. I can almost smell and taste the food. I always wanted to make a meal that took skill and looked and tasted fantastic.
You are a survivor! You have special qualities that have helped you to survive and thrive with a birth defect that society at large does not recognize. You share with others your special gifts, understanding, compassion and humor. You are extraordinary.
QuoteDo you have some people you trust? maybe you could move your comfortzone by going out with them on a cafe or something. I did that with my Mtf friend when she where to go fulltime. I think it made it more easy to go out when she wasnt alone.
Yes, I do have friends I can trust, but they don't live near me. As long as I'm with someone whose hand I can hold if needed, I do a lot better.
Being alone is very hard. It's not that I'm afraid, it's that a BIG part of "me" doesn't see the point of trying.
When I was younger I was ra*ed...even as an adult, I'd put myself in places where unwanted sexual contact would happen...only when I was alone. Most of those times I wouldn't remember the actual event, but the evidence was there.
In school and in the military I'd go out and try to meet people...but for years I'd come back empty-handed. Or worse--come back with new "baggage" from comments people made, how I'm ugly or stupid or fat or can't dance or gay or "enjoy little boys" (they had no idea how deeply THAT comment hurt)...
At some point coming home alone or to an empty house started becoming a Hell to me.
I just never learned how to enjoy life. And it's become a burden. My depression is so entirely within me, it's like being pulled out to sea by a strong current...I can't save myself, I need someone to throw me a rescue ring...
Now having just posted all that misery, I can say that depression is part behavioral and part chemical.
When I smiled last night because of the comments and pictures here, I could feel the washing of new endorphines in my mind...similar to when I was able to suppress T and began to be on E, although much faster.
All I have to do is figure out how to tap into that part of the mind, and (hopefully) I'll be good to go.
(btw, the "behavioral" element I mentioned is about bad habits of either action or thought...but it is the sense of despair brought on by the chemical imbalance which is, in my case, affecting my efforts at making new habits.)
Thanks for being here, my friends.
*hugs*
Quote from: JRae on November 09, 2013, 07:43:34 AM
Morning Beth, hugs. Good to hear things are better. Have a great day!
You too!
Yeah, it does feel like a good day is gonna happen.
(another positive: nearly persistent optimism...or should that be pessimistic optimism? LOL)
*hugs*
Beth, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better today. If I lived near you (I've been wanting to move to WA for quite awhile), I'd let you come cry on my shoulder anytime. :)
*BIG HUGS*
Lots of love and hugs,
Amy
Quote from: Amelia Pond on November 09, 2013, 07:54:42 AM
Beth, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better today. If I lived near you (I've been wanting to move to WA for quite awhile), I'd let you come cry on my shoulder anytime. :)
*BIG HUGS*
Lots of love and hugs,
Amy
Well, come on over! Boeing's going to build the 777 here for the next several years, and they hire for a LOT of different things. And of course for every one Boeing job, there's probably 10 sub-contractor positions.
Being 'alone' does indeed suck.
Most of my hobbies are essentially performed solo. It tends to result in my being 'alone' a lot. It's better though to be doing something while actually not 'alone'. Never read a book alone, if you can walk to a library and do it with people around for example. Never enjoy a quiet coffee at home alone, if you can do it at a coffee store surrounded by people.
Go shopping for nothing, just consider it going for a walk while walking past people in stores. People like to get out for the exercise, but walking all over a mall, or alone through a park is only different in that one is done surrounded by people.
Humans are social creatures. It is never good for us to spend too much time with no one else present.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
Well, come on over! Boeing's going to build the 777 here for the next several years, and they hire for a LOT of different things. And of course for every one Boeing job, there's probably 10 sub-contractor positions.
I wish it were that easy Beth. I'll probably need to wait until I finish school. So maybe in a few years. :-\
Amy
I'm glad that you are feeling better Beth. I can identify with being alone since that keeps happening to me.
When you are alone how do you fill your time? I try to stay busy with chores or go outside and walk or hike, or listen to music/read a book. The worst times are when I allow myself to sit around in my apartment with the shades drawn and isolate myself, so I'm trying to break that habit. Please don't isolate yourself; we are social creatures and we need some interaction with other people to stay mentally healthy.
Take care-
~Eva
Quote from: Eva Marie on November 09, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
I'm glad that you are feeling better Beth. I can identify with being alone since that keeps happening to me.
When you are alone how do you fill your time? I try to stay busy with chores or go outside and walk or hike, or listen to music/read a book. The worst times are when I allow myself to sit around in my apartment with the shades drawn and isolate myself, so I'm trying to break that habit. Please don't isolate yourself; we are social creatures and we need some interaction with other people to stay mentally healthy.
Take care-
~Eva
I shut down. I can literally feel the switches in my head. I have tried to "pull myself out of it", but anxiety kills off any motivation.
I do have multiple personalities (diagnosed), and I'm aware of several of them but there are others who I can only barely detect. Sometimes they just don't want to go out. :-X These "personalities", btw, are actual elements of the Self that I should have had; we were broken apart as a survival measure when we were very young.
I am one of them...but, all inside agree that if we are to be healed, it will be done thru me. They all trust me inside (as opposed to the loathing (fear?) of the former male who was the "outside" one). We've bottled up so much emotional energy (like despair, for example) that occasionally it spills out during a struggle (either from trying to force myself to go outside, or from a painful flashback) and gets all of us soaked.
DID is something that takes years to heal. And we need to trust people again.
Everyones replies here, and the atmosphere overall here at Susan's, helps with rebuilding trust. Thanks.
:)
Ah.... that makes more sense to me now. I have several friends that are multiples so I understand a little better what you are dealing with.
Hopefully your system finds a good balance soon.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
Well, come on over! Boeing's going to build the 777 here for the next several years, and they hire for a LOT of different things. And of course for every one Boeing job, there's probably 10 sub-contractor positions.
Did I hear employment?
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 07:29:08 AM
Yes, I do have friends I can trust, but they don't live near me. As long as I'm with someone whose hand I can hold if needed, I do a lot better.
Being alone is very hard. It's not that I'm afraid, it's that a BIG part of "me" doesn't see the point of trying.
When I was younger I was ra*ed...even as an adult, I'd put myself in places where unwanted sexual contact would happen...only when I was alone. Most of those times I wouldn't remember the actual event, but the evidence was there.
In school and in the military I'd go out and try to meet people...but for years I'd come back empty-handed. Or worse--come back with new "baggage" from comments people made, how I'm ugly or stupid or fat or can't dance or gay or "enjoy little boys" (they had no idea how deeply THAT comment hurt)...
At some point coming home alone or to an empty house started becoming a Hell to me.
I just never learned how to enjoy life. And it's become a burden. My depression is so entirely within me, it's like being pulled out to sea by a strong current...I can't save myself, I need someone to throw me a rescue ring...
It's not to late to learn in life.
I see the point of not feeling like trying, I had this period where I don't know why I should even try, it comes on and off.
I think deep down we all has a reason to try but we somethimes forget it because everything ells get filled in our brain like the idiot comments.
I think people like those had something nagging in there soul.
I think you are a beutiful woman in your own way. you are one of the people on susan which gives a smile and life, at least I feel so.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
Did I hear employment?
Yes! We talked about last night, yes? I think so, anyway.
:P
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
Did I hear employment?
Will you need a roommate when you move to WA? With the way things are going, I may try to go sooner rather than later. :-\
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 08, 2013, 08:26:21 PM
Tell me, what value do I have?
I love reading your posts. I love your attitude toward transition. I remember a lot of your stories - the one where you first got your hormone prescription stands in my mind. A bunch of other ones where you talk about the sexual pleasures of woman hood.
You have inspired me, Beth. Literally. I don't say that about many people. I don't inspire easily.
Hang in there girl. One day your wonderfulness will become as clear to you as it is to me.
My dream has been to live in Australia or Oregon. Washington is pretty close to Oregon and would fit the bill. So Employment and a roomie to share the rent sounds reasonable, at least on the surface. Now for the details.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 06:02:33 PM
My dream has been to live in Australia or Oregon. Washington is pretty close to Oregon and would fit the bill. So Employment and a roomie to share the rent sounds reasonable, at least on the surface. Now for the details.
Quote from: Amelia Pond on November 09, 2013, 05:25:26 PM
Will you need a roommate when you move to WA? With the way things are going, I may try to go sooner rather than later. :-\
I'm so excited!!
Two friends coming over, definitely maybe!!
Keep me up to date, and I can be a source of local-ish info.
FYI, rent in my area for a 1br = $700-800, 2br = $850-$950 (usually does not include utilities (~$40/month) electricity = ~ $35/month. PM if you want to look into it further.
Quote from: suzifrommd on November 09, 2013, 05:52:43 PM
I love reading your posts. I love your attitude toward transition. I remember a lot of your stories - the one where you first got your hormone prescription stands in my mind. A bunch of other ones where you talk about the sexual pleasures of woman hood.
You have inspired me, Beth. Literally. I don't say that about many people. I don't inspire easily.
Hang in there girl. One day your wonderfulness will become as clear to you as it is to me.
Wow, thank you! You've inspired me, as well. There's something about you that makes me excited to see what you've written.
*hugs*
btw, I feel Really Good today...attended a class which is needed for the divorce...now I have all my ducks in a row on THAT issue...just gotta wait about a month for the hearing, which should be a slam-dunk.
Yay! Maybe if I can get some of the stressors out of my life I'll feel better. Next one on the "short" list is my passport...filed, but someone in the office didn't actually read the application apparently... :-\ (I filled it out with my name (Beth), provided an original of the court order for the name change, a copy of my DL, and one mention of my previous name in the "Names you have also gone by" line...but they say I'm still "him" and need to show proof of my name change... ::)
EEp!!! Wages better be real good. I am suffering paying $440 for rent & house payment combined. Electric is about $85/mo and heat about $45/mo.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
EEp!!! Wages better be real good. I am suffering paying $440 for rent & house payment combined. Electric is about $85/mo and heat about $45/mo.
Well, you would have a roommate. ;)
Well...minimum wage here is about $9.50ish, so after say 20% withholding...that's about....hmm...carry the 3...
Twelve dollars.
Hmm...that's not right.
9.50 is almost 10, 20% off that is 8, x 40hrs/week = 320 x4weeks = 1280.
Thin, but doable. Fortunately, most non-degreed jobs pay more like 12-18/hour, so you'd be looking at 1800-2200/month.
There are jobs that pay 20-30/hour. Median wage per capita here is about $40k/year.
now take $300 off for insurance and I can't buy food or gas and I earn more than 9.5 an hour. It still don't work.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
now take $300 off for insurance and I can't buy food or gas and I earn more than 9.5 an hour. It still don't work.
I guess I'm just chopped liver. Which is something you'd think a KAT would pay attention to. :P
Quote from: Amelia Pond on November 09, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
I guess I'm just chopped liver. Which is something you'd think a KAT would pay attention to. :P
Umm,..vegetarian KAT. How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Umm,..vegetarian KAT. How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.
Or a third roomie. I like my place, but wouldn't mind moving to a better one...if friends are involved.
And Amy...isn't the term for "chopped liver" actually pâté? Gotta raise standards a little bit... ;)
Ooh! And a vegetarian KAT! I'll try vegetarian fare, always wanted to.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Umm,..vegetarian KAT. How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.
Damn, I forgot that you're a vegetarian. I think being roomies would make it work fairly easily. Besides, now Beth is offering to be a roommate, three people paying for everything would make it cake. The cake IS NOT a lie... this time. :icon_suspicious:
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 07:15:56 PM
And Amy...isn't the term for "chopped liver" actually pâté? Gotta raise standards a little bit... ;)
Well that's not the expression so :P
Rental houses, 3br for about 1400... (http://www.zillow.com/everett-wa/rent-houses/)
Don't know what kind of insurance is 300 (don't have to answer), but we do have reasonable state medical, and many companies offer it as well.
Portal reference FTW!
^-^
eta, must go now. KAT has my number if ya'all want to text.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 07:20:33 PM
Rental houses, 3br for about 1400... (http://www.zillow.com/everett-wa/rent-houses/)
Don't know what kind of insurance is 300 (don't have to answer), but we do have reasonable state medical, and many companies offer it as well.
OMG! The housing prices on the west coast are obscene! What makes it worth it?? Does marijuana grow wild in the ditches or something?
I have some advice when you're feeling a little down. Watch Judge Judy.... you'll feel like a precious metal listening to these morons! Here's an example: "Mark is suing Janice, the mother of his fifth child Damien. He claims Janice snuck in his apartment and had an orgy with four strangers and perhaps one space alien. Janice is counter suing for damages to her car when she ran over Mark when he tried to block her car as she tried to get her space alien friend back to the mother ship." It's all downhill from there....
Trust me, you'll feel better.
Housing costs here are about 1/2 that. You would have to have roommates just to eat.
That is my premium for medical, dental from work plus my car insurance.
I paid a whole 75k to buy a 7 bedroom house about 10 years back. Long story, but I lost it.
I'm actually feeling pretty good...2 beers and 2 pieces of 5-meat stuffed pizza definitely a mood changer....
:)
Quote from: Nikko on November 09, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
OMG! The housing prices on the west coast are obscene! What makes it worth it?? Does marijuana grow wild in the ditches or something?
I have some advice when you're feeling a little down. Watch Judge Judy.... you'll feel like a precious metal listening to these morons! Here's an example: "Mark is suing Janice, the mother of his fifth child Damien. He claims Janice snuck in his apartment and had an orgy with four strangers and perhaps one space alien. Janice is counter suing for damages to her car when she ran over Mark when he tried to block her car as she tried to get her space alien friend back to the mother ship." It's all downhill from there....
Trust me, you'll feel better.
Low crime (where I live), Seattle is 20 miles away (avg home price = 350K, up here about $250K)...that's to buy, renting is about what you've seen.
Most businesses around here, if they offer insurance, pay for the employee. $300/month is if you're getting ins for family.
In the end, you have to decide if you want to relocate, not just for financial reasons.
Imho
Very true. I want to go there for the weather partly, partly because of just dreaming, and partly for a fresh start sort of. That doesn't mean I can't be shocked by the difference in costs. I have found that usually wages match costs making it come out about even overall. I only need insurance for me, so it would depend what was offered.
The weather locally is pretty mild, 25-45 in the winter with one or two light snowfalls (2"-4", gone in 3 days)...summer 50--80F, not too humid, short mosquito season.
Oregon and WA both have a "wet side" and a "dry side." the western/ocean side is wet in both states, and east of the mountains (Cascades) is much dryer, colder in winter and hotter in summer. Wages are generally lower, but so is rent and housing (but not by much, Spokane avg house is $200K).
I guess I was wanting the wet side. At least when I was checking out places I would like, I came up with Yakima as a possibility.
Yakima is dry, and hot. There's an Army base there, and I wouldn't think it's too trans-friendly (although I do not know.) I've just driven thru and thought about going back there just to check out the surplus stores...
Hmm, didn't look at it from a trans point of view. I may have to redo some of my searching as it was a few years back.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 11:13:37 PM
Hmm, didn't look at it from a trans point of view. I may have to redo some of my searching as it was a few years back.
Yakima has a very large Mexican population (i.e., lots of people, not that there are Large Mexicans, I'm sure most of them are HWP...)...from which we *might* surmise they are Catholic and/or conservative.
But again, I don't know.
(I am looking for the site that shows "average daily temps" for the Seattle area, Yakima, and Wisconsin...will post when I find it)
Cool.
I saw a house made entirely made by carving out a redwood log once. I thought it looked like one cool house. I've wanted to see a live redwood ever since. that is what first lead me to Oregon, the milder weather was just a huge plus. then I discovered all the unusual animals in Australia. I decided then I had to go there and dive around the great Barrier Reef. I just have a need to wander and see everything.
If money were no object, I 'd have visited most of the world by now. And had a college degree, perpetual student style.