So...
Er...
I feared losing my sex drive before I started HRT. Yup, it fell like a rock. I don't miss it. I thought I would. I don't. Turns out you do not miss what you do not obsess over.
That said, for the sake of science, I do (insert your own euphemism here... my favorite: "Slap the Bishop") every so often, compared with multiple times per day before HRT, I have really cut back. Even when I do, it is not so much desire, rather than curiosity that drives me. I can orgasm, about as quickly as before if I wish, although now I do enjoy taking my time.
You see, I have always been looking for that magic pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, ie: the female orgasm. I envy the concept of multiple orgasms, I envy the concept of full body sensation. I know my nerves are not female, down there... yet I have heard reports from others of great success.
One time, and one time only, I felt something new, different, better than before. I have no clue what I did right, at least I know it is in there... Somewhere... and something new seems to be building within me.
I know we have a forum where this type of discussion is encouraged but it is hidden and pay only. Sexuality is not nasty, nor does it need to be hidden, it is a very common part of the human condition. If we keep this thread clean, I suspect it will be allowed.
Help. This is an odd place for me. I did not anticipate it. I am beginning to see why many females have trouble with the big O. I am very sexual between the ears, and now my body does not exactly play along.
Things have changed.
Nipples!
Chocolate chills!
Tickles are now awesome!!!
I ask this... actually, have I really asked a question? Until now?
I mention this, to give us a place to vent and help. I need help here. I knew I would give up my sex drive. I did not sign up to give up my orgasm. If a male orgasm is better than a MTF orgasm, OK... I will live... but that is not what was advertised.
How does one go from Jack to Jill?
THERE! A real question. Finally!
I'm not sure but from what I read in the section from post opts on Susan's that they can get better. I'm pre opt, but I totally like my orgasms better on HRT. It takes longer to get there . but to me they feel better. The same nerves are kept intact. And the same delivery system is involve. I just find the estrogen is letting me experience the orgasm in a slightly different sensory way.
Cool.
I have not had sex with my wife since I started HRT. We both want it! Perhaps more than ever.
Perhaps my problem is trying to sneak one in... Guy habits die hard... or soft, in my case.
Yea. go for it . It's feels too good to let it go
All of those same things happened to me:
"fell like a rock. I don't miss it. I thought I would. I don't....it is not so much desire, rather than curiosity that drives me. I can orgasm, about as quickly as before if I wish, although now I do enjoy taking my time....
>>Nipples!
>>Chocolate chills!
>>Tickles are now awesome!!!"
I might be wrong, but I feel that hormones just changed my sexual response ~ they didn't void it. It sure is great to have the ability just walk away from sex whenever I want to.
Every girl has to learn (or relearn) what works for her. As a starter I would suggest:
1. Set aside some quality time when you won't be tired, rushed, or stressed.
2. Set the mood with music and scents.
3. Consider massage or a warm bath to relax you and make you aware of how your body feels, especially your skin.
4. warm soft lighting- candlelight or fireplace or a sunset.
5. Wear something comfortable and silky.
6. Use your imagination. Feel yourself completely loved, valued, and desired.
7. Discard the old names for things and touch a woman's passion through a woman's skin.
8. Don't drive straight for the privates. In the woman's army, the general and the corporeal is where it is at.
9. Imagine and feel yourself part of your own spontaneous scene.
10. When you are completely spent and satisfied, remember how it felt.
Quote from: MadelineB on December 29, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
Every girl has to learn (or relearn) what works for her. As a starter I would suggest:
1. Set aside some quality time when you won't be tired, rushed, or stressed.
2. Set the mood with music and scents.
3. Consider massage or a warm bath to relax you and make you aware of how your body feels, especially your skin.
4. warm soft lighting- candlelight or fireplace or a sunset.
5. Wear something comfortable and silky.
6. Use your imagination. Feel yourself completely loved, valued, and desired.
7. Discard the old names for things and touch a woman's passion through a woman's skin.
8. Don't drive straight for the privates. In the woman's army, the general and the corporeal is where it is at.
9. Imagine and feel yourself part of your own spontaneous scene.
10. When you are completely spent and satisfied, remember how it felt.
Yep.
The feeling is way better.
Hugs,
Jen
Try multiple orgasms sometime while (..insert euphemism..), you might shock yourself with how easy it becomes having nothing to ejaculate.
My record so far is 4 in a row.
Reaching climax from the mere pressing of bodies was the real game changer for me, though. That came (lol) with copious amounts of love for the other party involved and a symphony of emotions simultaneously. It very recently happened for me, and has really opened my mind to what is possible with estrogen therapy and transition.
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 29, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
Try multiple orgasms sometime while (..insert euphemism..), you might shock yourself with how easy it becomes having nothing to ejaculate.
My record so far is 4 in a row.
Reaching climax from the mere pressing of bodies was the real game changer for me, though. That came (lol) with copious amounts of love for the other party involved and a symphony of emotions simultaneously. It very recently happened for me, and has really opened my mind to what is possible with estrogen therapy and transition.
Cool...
;)
So nobody can explain this?
Quote from: Tori on December 29, 2013, 08:05:33 PM
How does one go from Jack to Jill?
I had my first female orgasm the day after I started estradiol. It just happened. Once I got on spiro, all vestiges of the male orgasm went.
The differences are that I feel the female orgasm with my body. My genital area, while originating the orgasm, isn't a major part of the sensation. It is more difficult to reach. It requires intense mental arousal. And it is an Event. When I climax as a female, I feel a glow for days.
But Tori, everyone experiences orgasm differently. By its very definition, you can't control what kind of orgasm you have. No orgasm is better or worse than others. Can you enjoy the gift that your body gives you as is without feeling it needs to be improved upon?
I have had one single time when I had a 2-in a row multiple orgasm - but that was it. However the full body sensation is immense with me. And for me really, HT was the start to change things a lot, SRS was a gamechanger though. BUT, that said - a lot of it really is in the mind. If I could get my mind around it even pre-op, not going by the looks but by a feel of how it should be, treat myself feminine - you know, make things up, be gentle, create a great atmosphere, drop the penetration or rubbing game for now - that really did a lot of wonders for me, it allowed my mind to perceive this act as something feminine and basically simulate in my head how it should feel like if there was not that different shape present now. In the end, all these sensations are similar, but just differently located and experienced in a different way.
Quote from: suzifrommd on December 30, 2013, 06:22:55 AM
But Tori, everyone experiences orgasm differently. By its very definition, you can't control what kind of orgasm you have. No orgasm is better or worse than others. Can you enjoy the gift that your body gives you as is without feeling it needs to be improved upon?
Well, I disagree about no orgasm being better or worse than others. As HRT seems to have caused a change for the lesser in me, at least so far. But practice makes perfect. :)
I suspect, by going about it in a "male" way, I have limited my response.
Some of the advice given in here is inspiring. I have some new ideas. I'd like to say, "I will let you all know how it goes." but I may not. It was embarrassing enough to make this thread in the first place.
Orgasm is important to me. SRS is a concern because of my desire to remain sensate. Figuring out the female orgasm seems like one of those things I can do to have a successful transition in my brain.
It is just one of those things. It is not a deal breaker... but I was hoping it would be a perk.
Quote from: Tori on December 30, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
Well, I disagree about no orgasm being better or worse than others. As HRT seems to have caused a change for the lesser in me, at least so far. But practice makes perfect. :)
I suspect, by going about it in a "male" way, I have limited my response.
I agree..some of mine are breathtaking..others are like wtf was that? And that all depends on my approach. I've been doing it differently ~ experimenting with several ways..and I get different responses each way.
Quote from: Tori on December 30, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
Orgasm is important to me. SRS is a concern because of my desire to remain sensate.
From my research..many of the popular GCS surgeons (penile inversion or not) are able make sensate and orgasmic neo-v's. I'm not going to say it's a given..because that also depends on how your sex response was pre-op. But I've understood that if you 'were' before..you 'will be' again later, once the nerves and wiring has all been re-mapped to the newly healed areas.
Hope this helps!
Quote from: livinit on December 30, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
I agree..some of mine are breathtaking..others are like wtf was that? And that all depends on my approach. I've been doing it differently ~ experimenting with several ways..and I get different responses each way.
From my research..many of the popular GCS surgeons (penile inversion or not) are able make sensate and orgasmic neo-v's. I'm not going to say it's a given..because that also depends on how your sex response was pre-op. But I've understood that if you 'were' before..you 'will be' again later, once the nerves and wiring has all been re-mapped to the newly healed areas.
Hope this helps!
I don't know if this is approaching multiple orgasms or not, but lately I've sensed wave like patterns beginning in my orgasms. You just have to take your time and not be wham bam thank you
Quote from: stephaniec on December 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
I don't know if this is approaching multiple orgasms or not, but lately I've sensed wave like patterns beginning in my orgasms. You just have to take your time and not be wham bam thank you
I've manged a double a few times. Some are wonderful, some are rather so-so. I also started to get wave patterns but for me, that is either different or weak multiples. Regardless, they are so much better now.
Hugs,
Jen
I will say, the increase in my body's sensitivity is quite cool. I am surprised that the most sensitive part of me seems less so when everything else...
Quote from: Tori on December 30, 2013, 10:38:41 PM
I will say, the increase in my body's sensitivity is quite cool. I am surprised that the most sensitive part of me seems less so when everything else...
Well, this what I've found too. That my genitals are much less sensitive. In terms of sensation, my orgasms don't "feel" as good.
But they are more intense emotionally, if that makes sense.
Part of it may be that I am so thrilled to be able experience female sexual release that the overwhelming emotion is to be thankful.
If there were concern whether it's the right kind or whether it's happening in the right way, I think that would darn near ruin it for me.
So maybe what I'm suggesting is to do what feels good and natural and not worry whether you're doing this in a female or a male way.
I remember I once had a girlfriend with whom we would do this together. I always found in fascinating that, despite the fact that I was having a male experience and she was having a female experience, our body motions were exactly the same.
Tori,
Do yourself a favour and get yourself a copy of "For Yourself. The fulfillment of female sexuality." By Lonnie Barbach PhD. Available through Amazon, Book Depositary etc.
A very practical guide to what you're seeking. Madeline eluded to some of the techniques in achieving the outcome.
Huggs
Catherine
Cis males are driven, it's just a physical urge with very little emotion if any, reaching an orgasm is the goal and is just like drag racing with very little warm up and once you're through the traps at the end of the quarter mile it's all over.
Cis women don't initially have that kind of intense physical urge up front and starts in their emotional center in the brain after a long emotion filled warm up session they are ready to engage in sex and it usually takes some time to reach climax which can indeed become extended and in multiple waves unlike a male.
MtF's on HRT begin to experience a waning male drive and in time it is supplanted by the onset of real feminine emotions, perhaps this is the first time an individual discovers this new dynamic of actually having an emotional self. Some deny that they are sexual beings and insist they are asexual, unfortunately this is simply a means of suppressing one's self from experiencing the full potential of female sexuality.
Well. Suzy, Catherine Sarah and Shantel, I do appreciate the input. It also seems a consensus is forming. Emotions, foreplay and taking your time seem key.
I have not done any experimenting since this thread began, so no updates from me.
Emotions are kinda' hard to wrap my head around in this context. Yes, I am an emotional person, was one HRT, remain one to this day. Yes I have noticed a slight change in certain emotional responses, some responses are quite physical like crying over the smallest thing, or the surprising buzz in the pit of my stomach when I see someone jump off a diving board. Weeeeeee!
I also am more open to feelings of Joy. Amazing how capacity can change when dysphoric bouts are quelled.
I may be going at this a bit too soon, as my sensitivity, emotional and physical, is still migrating away from T and towards E. Without actual experience, the concept of an emotional orgasm is well, conceptual.
Yet another point in my transition where my respect for women deepens. The next time someone asks me why I am transitioning, as if women are lesser than men, my reply may just be, "Because women are badass!"
Catherine Sarah, I will find that book. Huge thanks!
I am not sure if I should start a new thread or append to this one.
The issue I am encountering is similar, albeit a bit different.
Erections declined rapidly when I started Finasteride in early May, as desired & intended.
Within 2-3 days of starting E in mid-June & switching Finasteride for a very low dose of Spiro (my blood pressure has always been at the low end of normal), the obsession & compulsion to wear female attire completely vanished. I still enjoy it, but I am no longer obsessed about it. This has continued from mid-June until now and is a very welcome change.
Yesterday evening my nipples became erogenous for the first time since I started HRT. This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER. Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).
I was expecting something more gradual on HRT with medical supervision. I was not expecting no reaction from nipple stimulation for over 6 months and then suddenly, boom!
I thought I also noticed some breast growth, so I took some measurements this morning. The difference bewteen my bust & band measurements is 7.2 inches this morning, up from 6.2 inches on the 19th December (the last time I took measurements). It feels as if much of the increase has occurred within the past day or so.
It was wonderful to find my nipples become erogenous, especially after nothing happening in the orgasm department for a few months (they didn't completely disappear immediately).
I was caught by surprise at how quickly it happened. Nothing has changed recently in my hormone intake. My meds are stable and have been since late September (some tweaking was needed initially - the difference is that I am now on a slighly lower dose of Spiro and a small amount of Finasteride).
My questions is this: Has anyone else experienced a similar sudden change while on HRT ?
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On multiple orgasms: I learnt from an ex that men could have multiple orgasms back in '98 (at least 3, felt like more, over a continuous 15-minutes).
Knowing what I have learnt about myself this year since admitting I might be (ha!) trans after my ER visit in January (some good came from it), I am now wondering about how 'male' I was in that moment back then.
Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.
Quote from: TessaMarie on December 31, 2013, 02:32:39 PM
I am not sure if I should start a new thread or append to this one.
The issue I am encountering is similar, albeit a bit different.
Erections declined rapidly when I started Finasteride in early May, as desired & intended.
Within 2-3 days of starting E in mid-June & switching Finasteride for a very low dose of Spiro (my blood pressure has always been at the low end of normal), the obsession & compulsion to wear female attire completely vanished. I still enjoy it, but I am no longer obsessed about it. This has continued from mid-June until now and is a very welcome change.
Yesterday evening my nipples became erogenous for the first time since I started HRT. This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER. Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).
I was expecting something more gradual on HRT with medical supervision. I was not expecting no reaction from nipple stimulation for over 6 months and then suddenly, boom!
I thought I also noticed some breast growth, so I took some measurements this morning. The difference bewteen my bust & band measurements is 7.2 inches this morning, up from 6.2 inches on the 19th December (the last time I took measurements). It feels as if much of the increase has occurred within the past day or so.
It was wonderful to find my nipples become erogenous, especially after nothing happening in the orgasm department for a few months (they didn't completely disappear immediately).
I was caught by surprise at how quickly it happened. Nothing has changed recently in my hormone intake. My meds are stable and have been since late September (some tweaking was needed initially - the difference is that I am now on a slighly lower dose of Spiro and a very small amount of Finasteride).
My questions is this: Has anyone else experienced a similar sudden change while on HRT ?
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On multiple orgasms: I learnt from an ex that men could have multiple orgasms back in '98 (at least 3, felt like more, over a continuous 15-minutes).
Knowing what I have learnt about myself this year since admitting I might be (ha!) trans after my ER visit in January (some good came from it), I am now wondering about how 'male' I was in that moment back then.
I notice one morning recently I looked down at my chest and aw these breasts staring back at me. quite the fun thing to see waking up
Quote from: Emo on December 31, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.
I had similar thoughts as a child, although in reverse.
You girls make me feel like a teenager ready for puberty. Lol
@kat
Strange feeling isnt it?
Can I just be a huge geek and leave this here for a moment? Yes? No? You can have a look if you want anyway. :3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_O
But seriously, good job for all of you!
Quote from: TessaMarie on December 31, 2013, 02:32:39 PM
This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER. Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).
Could you elaborate a little on this? What kind of herbs and what dosage? How did it land you in the ER? And what does "NB" mean?
I've pretty much lost the ability to orgasm, unfortunately... I still haven't figured out how to make it work now.
Basically, I still have a sex-drive, but it's MUCH harder to get it going to the point where I can really get wrapped up in it and even get remotely close to climax levels. And I have a serious issue with genital dysphoria, so it's really hard to get lost in the fantasy for me when that damned thing just feels so wrong, and is constantly changing and moving around, and is so sensitive now that I can barely touch it without it hurting. And I've tried the whole "g-spot" thing that people have suggested, but while that did get me a bit closer, still nothing.
It's been two months since I've made it, even though I've tried at least five times. I just don't understand how it's supposed to work now, with a very female sex-drive but male anatomy still getting in the way. And the stupid thing is, I've had "female" orgasms in my dreams before, so I know exactly the mental "getting lost in it" mindset that I need to be in to make it work, but the problem is that I can't figure out how to replicate that in real life. And it always feels like my anatomy is fighting against me instead of helping me in that regard.
I don't know if this will help ,but I've had severe dysphoria for a long time . I've always mentally bypassed the shaft of the penis. I've basically mentally have not had a penis for quite some time .I manipulate as if there is nothing but vagina. It's really works well on HRT because there's no rigidity . actually it's a lot better on HRT. I don't know maybe It's just because I've been this way for so long. Mostly I concentrate on the base.
Problem is, there still is rigidity for me. If it would just stay down like it's supposed to, I wouldn't be having these problems. But the problem is, I'll start something that feels good, and then because it feels good it will start getting bigger, and so suddenly the main part that feels good is separated from the other part that feels good by 5 inches of useless erectile tissue. And nothing that I do after that is ever as good on the same level of completeness as when it was still limp. Once that erection happens, I can never get an ounce closer to orgasm, and it usually just leaves me downright frustrated.
I can still orgasm but there is no intensity and I'm lucky to once a week. Sex has been a lot different because before I was on T it was all focused on the body part and now my whole body is really sensitive except for it. Honestlyit is so much better and more liberating now than it has ever been.
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 01, 2014, 11:24:22 AM
Problem is, there still is rigidity for me. If it would just stay down like it's supposed to, I wouldn't be having these problems. But the problem is, I'll start something that feels good, and then because it feels good it will start getting bigger, and so suddenly the main part that feels good is separated from the other part that feels good by 5 inches of useless erectile tissue. And nothing that I do after that is ever as good on the same level of completeness as when it was still limp. Once that erection happens, I can never get an ounce closer to orgasm, and it usually just leaves me downright frustrated.
I know the feeling of frustration with rigidity, It tens to spoil things. I manipulate parallel to the body so I delete a lot of the rigidity factor , It becomes more full body rather than a separate protrusion
Quote from: stephaniec on January 01, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
I know the feeling of frustration with rigidity, It tens to spoil things. I manipulate parallel to the body so I delete a lot of the rigidity factor , It becomes more full body rather than a separate protrusion
Erection is necessary for climax. All females get erect right before climax. Erection is as much a feminine experience as a masculine one.
Quote from: suzifrommd on January 01, 2014, 12:27:25 PM
Erection is necessary for climax. All females get erect right before climax. Erection is as much a feminine experience as a masculine one.
So true. It is different I think but of course erections are not male. Though admittedly with male genitalia it is harder to hide that :P
Quote from: Emo on December 31, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.
Oh yes indeed, I had a similar feeling. I thought one would basically have to take something away that is covered over it. I thought maybe it was i a weird way grown over or something. I even tried to "poke in" some times and thought that I felt that there is actually room there that jus is covered. Sadly that was just a trick of my mind, well...
Women....
Sigh.
How can I learn to help my wife if I can't help myself?
I have always been good. I wanna' be a ninja!
Quote from: livinit on January 01, 2014, 10:30:10 AM
Could you elaborate a little on this? What kind of herbs and what dosage? How did it land you in the ER? And what does "NB" mean?
NB = Nota Bene = Latin for "Note Well"
I think it was mostly the Fenugreek that got me. I was taking about 5 times the dose recommended on the label.
I also took Saw Palmetto & Black Cohosh (& then Red Clover), but at the dose suggested.
All of them have the side effect of lowering blood pressure. Since my normal blood pressure is about 110/70, it didn't take long for my body to react to the herbs by lowering my blood pressure enough for me to collapse unresponsive for several minutes (probably not unconscious, since my eyes were open & unfocused) with shallow laboured breathing.
The EMT's took my blood pressure once they got me into the ambulance. It was 90/60 then, which was about 10 minutes after I came to. 10 minutes of me being able to breathe normally, think & walk (a bit unsteadily). 10 minutes of my blood pressure slowly recovering. To the best of my knowledge, 70/50 is viewed as an indicator of imminent death.
My experience with the herbs has taught me that I enter very dangerous territory when I act without medical supervision.
I admit I had considered 'herbs' to be separate from 'medicine' until I saw a youtube video of an old classmate talking about it. Go to 2:55 on this video & listen for 10 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDYba0m6ztE
Update!
I am making progress! Intensity is back to pre HRT levels although the sensation is indescribably different.
I notice I can tickle my own body now, this did not work on T... and tickles radiate... tingles...
Getting to know my nipples is WAY TOO FUN!
No multiples yet, but that just means more practice required.
I am starting to get the emotional connection aspect, and it is so different but it is really cool.
It does not work the same way and things will continue to change I imagine, but yeah, I am a fan! This IS better than being on T, better already. No need to do it often, but ready when I feel like it. It is like I make a conscious choice to play, which is more rewarding than being at the mercy of male compulsion.
Weeeeee!
I have yet to start HRT (mtf) but I think you'll find this interesting:
I'm able to make myself orgasm without being physically touched at all. Simply using the power of thought. It takes a little while to work up to it and I have to be aroused, but I've been able to do it for years, ever since I did this hypnosis thing to see if it would work.
What else is interesting is that the orgasm feels very different. When it happens, (really sorry if this is tmi but I think it's important) I don't shoot like normal but it simply slowly flows out, and in much less volume, meanwhile the sensations get rapidly more intense, spreading through me to the point where it's too intense and I stop. I think maybe the 'female orgasm' is actually a totally different orgasm unreliant on physical sensations, and dependant on mental sensations. It seems likely to me, considering when I mentally make myself orgasm with no physical sensations, it's a vastly different orgasm
Three weeks into hrt my libido and function crashed. It took me a week or 2 to relearn how to become excited. Mental is the key for me with caressing my body and nipples. Orgasm is intense and my lower body is quite involves with muscle contraction and then a huge sense of euphoria. The visualization act is very dysphoric but I accept how I feel and perceive myself ( I need an alignment :) ).
Never tried a multiple, huuuuum, never thought it to be. I will try.
My gf and I actually had sex over the weekend and the old way for me to achieve the big "o" is pffffffth. Nothing. It was still good for her so that's cool and she's bi so I don't have to worry about us splitting up because of my changes.
I have noticed that I am much more responsive to touch than before and when she kissed my nipple, wow--felt it all over my body. It was amazing :).
Jane
Quote from: suzifrommd on January 01, 2014, 12:27:25 PM
Erection is necessary for climax. All females get erect right before climax. Erection is as much a feminine experience as a masculine one.
Hum, I tend to disagree. While I can grasp the thoughts which led you to assuming erections is not related to gender, I wouldn't call it erection for females. The source for the word erection is the Latin word erectum which means something has been risen, which means the penis has stiffened. While there are parts of womens genitalia which stiffen while the orgasm lasts (at least I assume, I unfortunately never was a women yet), there's nothing which may "stand up".
That said, I can agree on the fact that there is some equivalent thing in the female orgasm process. I'd call it arousal which accentuates the fact that males tend to appreciate physical things while females prefer mental things.
With regard to the big o... I hope for many years now to experience something I call body orgasm. When someone caresses my body (nipples, stomach, butt, ...) I feel very aroused. When it lasts long enough there's a point I start to feel like I'm about to explode. Unfortunately I did never actually explode... but I still like the pain of pleasure involved.
Quote from: Pia Bianca on February 01, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Hum, I tend to disagree. While I can grasp the thoughts which led you to assuming erections is not related to gender, I wouldn't call it erection for females. The source for the word erection is the Latin word erectum which means something has been risen, which means the penis has stiffened. While there are parts of womens genitalia which stiffen while the orgasm lasts (at least I assume, I unfortunately never was a women yet), there's nothing which may "stand up".
That said, I can agree on the fact that there is some equivalent thing in the female orgasm process. I'd call it arousal which accentuates the fact that males tend to appreciate physical things while females prefer mental things.
With regard to the big o... I hope for many years now to experience something I call body orgasm. When someone caresses my body (nipples, stomach, butt, ...) I feel very aroused. When it lasts long enough there's a point I start to feel like I'm about to explode. Unfortunately I did never actually explode... but I still like the pain of pleasure involved.
My clit gets hard now, as my my penis did before.
What happens as it also does in CIA females is blood starts to flow to the area, growing in size.
You can see it happening. I can feel it happening in me
Quote from: Nicole on February 01, 2014, 09:25:29 PM
You can see it happening. I can feel it happening in me
I. Want. That. Too.
$20,000 cheap!
It's not the money holding me back. I would be able to pay, at least if I tried I would eventually succeed. It's just... I can't get myself to see a therapist and that's an absolute prerequiste for starting HRT and getting any surgery. At least it is in Germany...
Quote from: Pia Bianca on February 01, 2014, 09:52:31 PM
It's not the money holding me back. I would be able to pay, at least if I tried I would eventually succeed. It's just... I can't get myself to see a therapist and that's an absolute prerequiste for starting HRT and getting any surgery. At least it is in Germany...
It sounds to me like the fear factor is holding you back. That first step can be quite a doozy. The future happiness will likely far outweigh your fears. Be brave. Make a phone call or two, even if it is just to find someone who would be willing to work with you, even if you don't use it right away. I think that the fear will resolve itself when you take charge by doing so.