I went to my pediatrician this passing Tuesday and she told me i was almost done growing and i only had 1 more inch or so left.. because i already started female growth.. some bullsh*t. What pissed me off is how can she just predict it like its that simple, like she knows? she didn't even x-ray my growth plates, shes just SO sure.
Im only 5'1 in a half and i hate it, because once i get my sex change i don't want to be a short man. at least 5'6 5'7 5'5 but 5'1? i just can't smile about it. People say sh*t like "you have to learn to love yourself", dont hand that bullsh*t to me because i won't learn to love this. EVER. i cried because im so depressed about my whole body.. fars me being a female, fars me being short. I just really wanna kill myself.
IS THERE HOPE? Can i make it to my 5'6 , 5'7 on T if my growth plates arent fused (which they arent) ? Was there ANY ftm's that grew taller? I mean ANY? if im left at this height ill be better off dead.. yes. its that serious. Ya know. kinda similiar to how you were before you got your sex change. You were depressed in that wrong body. think about it. before you hand me some crap. Please
No one can predict how much you will grow, I mean I'm 5'4 and it sucks but I'm pretty sure ill put on a few more inches but I brelieve gentics plays a part in it so if you have taller people in your family then you could turn out to be tall or vice versa. I'm still pre everything but height come on man I know I'm taller than you but it bothers me yea..... I'm not gonna lie but you shouldn't let that discourage you at all. And 5'6 5'7 its still considered short but average.
Quote from: Brandon on March 26, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
No one can predict how much you will grow, I mean I'm 5'4 and it sucks but I'm pretty sure ill put on a few more inches but I brelieve gentics plays a part in it so if you have taller people in your family then you could turn out to be tall or vice versa. I'm still pre everything but height come on man I know I'm taller than you but it bothers me yea..... I'm not gonna lie but you shouldn't let that discourage you at all. And 5'6 5'7 its still considered short but average.
yeah i know thats short still but for a FTM thats not that bad. Im not gonna go to the extremes wanting to be 6'1 because i know for sure that won't happen for me but at least 5'7, 5'8 or 5'6. Im young, Im praying to god i grow more. and fars tall people in my family yes, i hardly see any short people in my family. My mother is 5'4 and my pa is 6'1. My brothers = 5'8 and 5'11 and my sisters = 5'6 and 5'0 ( I was born after the sister thats 5'0 but she was premature.) But i would even be happy to be 5'4 like you. but 5'1? Im just stressing and so sad atm.
Quote from: MartyMcfly on March 26, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
yeah i know thats short still but for a FTM thats not that bad. Im not gonna go to the extremes wanting to be 6'1 because i know for sure that won't happen for me but at least 5'7, 5'8 or 5'6. Im young, Im praying to god i grow more. and fars tall people in my family yes, i hardly see any short people in my family. My mother is 5'4 and my pa is 6'1. My brothers = 5'8 and 5'11 and my sisters = 5'6 and 5'0 ( I was born after the sister thats 5'0 but she was premature.) But i would even be happy to be 5'4 like you. but 5'1? Im just stressing and so sad atm.
And I completely understand that, It definately is sad because I get angry sometimes but like I said you can't let that stop you from being you man! I know that its hard and its fustrating but I didn't let it stop me and know I have lots of male friends and female friends who see only a guy and everyone knows who Brandon is and Ive been contemplating suicide for years know but the whole moral to the story is be thankful for what you do have and you might just grow somemore or if you start T early enough you might put on some more inches.
Quote from: Brandon on March 26, 2014, 06:05:04 PM
And I completely understand that, It definately is sad because I get angry sometimes but like I said you can't let that stop you from being you man! I know that its hard and its fustrating but I didn't let it stop me and know I have lots of male friends and female friends who see only a guy and everyone knows who Brandon is and Ive been contemplating suicide for years know but the whole moral to the story is be thankful for what you do have and you might just grow somemore or if you start T early enough you might put on some more inches.
That actually kinda helps me man, hearing someone else give me hope for once instead of hearing people telling me its impossible, It won't happen, and so on. It just puts me in a dark place and you giving me hope kinda made me feel better.. the fact that some people may talk about me and say "wow, he's making a big deal out of height" but no one will never understand except the people that are going through the same thing as me, such as yourself. Low self-esteem and insecurities about certain things is over-welming.
Quote from: MartyMcfly on March 26, 2014, 06:13:51 PM
That actually kinda helps me man, hearing someone else give me hope for once instead of hearing people telling me its impossible, It won't happen, and so on. It just puts me in a dark place and you giving me hope kinda made me feel better.. the fact that some people may talk about me and say "wow, he's making a big deal out of height" but no one will never understand except the people that are going through the same thing as me, such as yourself. Low self-esteem and insecurities about certain things is over-welming.
Yes low self esteem and having lots of insecurities is overwhelming, But we have to be strong about this whole thing, I've gained confidence over the years just from being me and getting the respect I deserve from people.
This may not mean much from a cis born male, but I was stuck in height at 5'6" at 19 years old. When I hit 25 I had a major growth spurt to 5'11" so don't give up yet. Genetics are really strange and do weird things to us. I have great hope for you even if you do not get on "T" until you are 18 or 21. Trust me on one thing, I know the fears you have about your body. I starting HRT at 47 and thought I would be doomed to look like a male forever, but changes are happening to change my mind and body. Don't pre judge your future results, they can happen. I am delighted with the progress I am making at feminization and feel you will reach your goals of masculinization as well :)
honestly dude, don't worry about it. this is coming from someone who is only an inch taller than you are. i'm in my 20s, i'm short and i'm in school with guys my height or a bit taller. no one questions it or thinks they're less of a man because of it or thinks i'm less of a man because of it. i haven't started t yet and even though i'm short, i pass fine. height doesn't make up the kind of man you are or how manly or masculine you are just like it doesn't determine how feminine someone is. it's genetics and sometimes you get the short end of the stick (literally...) and honestly, i used to be insecure about it but as i got older, dated and w/e, i realized people don't notice height or don't care as much as i did. if i cared or brought notice to it, they would too. it won't stop you from dating, being one of the guys, or not passing. don't worry so much about it, you might grow or you might not. the key is confidence and that's all you need sometimes.
Hey, man, I'm just about 5ft, so I get it. It gets me down at times, but can't control it, I'm 21 so I'm for sure done growing. Yeah, with testosterone you might be able to grow more; I've heard of a good few people growing a little bit, so I'd imagine the younger you are, the more you can grow.
I'm sorry if it angers you, but just have to say, height isn't really the be all and end all. Yes it gets you very down, I get it, but when all is said and done, there ARE short guys. LOTS of them. And they can have normal lives, it's not like a severe disadvantage to anything. Society is stupid in that being short is seen as less desirable as being tall, I know, but people will always find a reason to judge you or look down on you in life, so no-one, not a single person, will be able to escape that. Hopefully you could learn to accept your height if it does happen to fall short of your desired height. And I don't say that to make you angry, I just say that because wanting to die is such a horrible feeling, and so I just hope that if it didn't work out ideally, you could learn to be happy in spite of it, because it is possible. I'm not speaking for myself, because I'm still working on not hating myself, but I know it can be done.
I hope it does give you lots of growth, though, it's not impossible, not by a long stretch. My brother's a giant and he's still having growth spurts even though he should be done growing by now. I think he stole my growth spurts, personally lol.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 26, 2014, 06:23:01 PM
This may not mean much from a cis born male, but I was stuck in height at 5'6" at 19 years old. When I hit 25 I had a major growth spurt to 5'11" so don't give up yet. Genetics are really strange and do weird things to us. I have great hope for you even if you do not get on "T" until you are 18 or 21. Trust me on one thing, I know the fears you have about your body. I starting HRT at 47 and thought I would be doomed to look like a male forever, but changes are happening to change my mind and body. Don't pre judge your future results, they can happen. I am delighted with the progress I am making at feminization and feel you will reach your goals of masculinization as well :)
this honestly made me feel better aswell.. Maybe i am prejudging my future. I had so many people telling me that ill be forever this height or 1 inch more, soooo many times. So then i made myself start believing them. Saying their right and im just a silly ole kiddo. smh. anything can happen and your walking proof.
The doctor said that woman with cancer had a few months to live.. Years passed and shes still here..
The weather man predicted snow the next morning.. That morning came, and it was 80 degrees.
nobody is never sure, is what im saying, but thank you so much
I used to work in the music industry. There are SO many rock stars that are in the 5'0" to 5'5" range that I couldn't list them all on this page. Did anyone think less of Ronnie James Dio because of his size? I wouldn't worry about this. Guys come in all shapes and sizes too. I'm 6'2", and I don't have issues. It just is what it is. And I would absolutely date a guy that was the Sonny to my Cher or the Boris to my Natasha.
Ve must stop Moose and Squirrel! LOL
Don't worry, you'll do great.
Quote from: MartyMcfly on March 26, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
thank you so much
You are more than welcome brother! I got the same advice when I joined here. It took them about 4 months of reassuring me before I would even think about posting a photo here. I had convinced myself I would never look feminine at all, not I cant stop the selfies! ;D
dont let it bother you that much, I'm around 5'3, and it sucks, butttt they have these insole lifts that you can put in your shoes which can make you an inch or two taller lol might help a little
I did not read what others wrote except the last person. There are shoes & sneakers that make you taller (well appear taller). I have looked into them a lot. I have not purchased bc they do not sell them anywhere in Boston that I can find & I have heard they can feel like you're walking in heels, but I do not know & want to try them on and walk before buying. These types of shoes have been around for decades, so men have been wishing they were taller forever!!! You're not alone.
I can't give out medical advice bc I just do not know. I also do not know how old you are. I asked my doctor to prescribe me the HGH when I was 27 & she said it was too late for me b/c my grow plates had closed. I would definitely suggest talking to your doctor about that.
There is a surgical option, which to me is way too much to go through for such little pay off, but doctors essentially break your legs to add length to them. I did a lot of research on all height options & this one I considered the worst. I would personally go for the shoes.
Also certain things make people appear taller. Patterns on shirts, pleats in pants versus non pleats, avoid plaids, height shoes, you do have options!!!
Seriously ask your doctor about the HGH. I think its best to start as early as possible & I believe its an injection in you belly similar to an insulin injection. Hope it works out dude!!!
I'm pretty obsessed with trying to grow taller as well. I think a lot of people in general are too, not just those that are trans. This is going to make me sound crazy, but if you go on youtube, you can find these videos that are frequencies for growing taller. The videos suggest that listening to these sounds makes your brain release the signals for growing again. Some people might think that this is just stupid but I think the biggest part about it working, is to just believe it. I was almost 5'6 when I started listening and now I am almost 5'7 and I'm 19! I don't have a lot of time to listen to it at the moment, but I want to start again :) I really think that you can do a lot of things with mind power! I hope I don't seem too crazy haha
Suicidal over height?! Yes it can suck, but there are worse things. Lots worse! I am 5'1" and pass 98% of the time. (1 year on T). I feel respected by others and as an adult really no one disses you on account of height. That's kid's stuff. If you are pretty young you might be able to get on HGH but it does have its own side effects and issues.
Learn to respect yourself.
BTW, just nitpicking. This is not a sex change. Your gender is male, if inside yourself you feel male, you don't have to do anything at all. Or you can medically transition to as great an extent as possible or many in between points.
--Jay
Quote from: Jill F on March 26, 2014, 06:51:58 PM
I used to work in the music industry. There are SO many rock stars that are in the 5'0" to 5'5" range that I couldn't list them all on this page. Did anyone think less of Ronnie James Dio because of his size? I wouldn't worry about this. Guys come in all shapes and sizes too. I'm 6'2", and I don't have issues. It just is what it is. And I would absolutely date a guy that was the Sonny to my Cher or the Boris to my Natasha.
Ve must stop Moose and Squirrel! LOL
Don't worry, you'll do great.
I'm into the music scene, and I swear half the guys are a whopping 5'4 on their toes. It's kind of cute, frankly. I wouldn't worry about the height, nobody gives it a second thought. That being said, I've been known to wear boots that give me an extra inch and a half, so there is that.
I have quite a few trans woman friends. It's fun to stand beside them as most of them are way way taller than me. Most of them seem self-assured about it, it's just as hard (or harder) for a tall gal. I think a lot of it is self-confidence and how you carry yourself. Okay Boris to Natasha and Moose to Squirrel, going to have to pass that one along. :)
--Jay
I'm a short guy too (5'3" over here). After I moved out at 18 and I changed my lifestyle to be much more active and with a healthier diet, I grew an inch or two. And this was a 20 and pre-everything. Females usually stop growing around 18.
No one knows how much they will or will not grow. You could still hit 5'3" or 5'4" range depending on how old you are but I wouldn't hold out for much more than that.
Either way, as many people have said, it isn't a huge deal. Really, if you don't let it bother you, no one else will care. Own it. I'm a huge nerd so I just claim to be part hobbit (fits with my love of food and my curly hair, too).
I'm 5'2". One of my instructors is a fully grown man, and presumably cis, and he's just slightly shorter than me (although he won't admit it... it's a running joke we have). Joke about it before anyone else does and it no longer becomes something that anyone can use against you.
There is a chance that you'll grow on T, but it's something based of anecdotal evidence rather than hard fact, so I can't categorically say that it will happen for you, even if you are young.
I'm 5ft (last time I was measured it was 4'11"... but i refuse to believe that!) and I am way past my growing times... will start shrinking in a few years i bet! :-/
Dont worry so much! Short guys do exist!! The only way you're going to get beyond it is by learning to accept yourself the way you are, learn to love your short ass. What I do is make fun of myself for it! If you cant laugh at yourself, how the hell you going to laugh at someone else? ;) lol i think it goes like that.... >_>
I still wish i was taller though... lol but it's not something I can change. I'm stuck with it. Might as well embrace it.
I not short, I'm vertically challenged. So to someone in a store when I can't reach something, "I'm sorry I can't reach this, I'm vertically challenged." Usually gets a laugh. Most people do understand you were born like that, unlike some other sorts of physical variations, and I've found people who are not children (yes, I am including immature 16 year olds here) are nice about it.
Might enjoy this tumblr: http://f**kyeahshortguys.tumblr.com/
You'll have to spell out that word. :)
--Jay
I'm like 5and 1/2. I worked with guys who were shorter then me. One day they'd come to work and I could see over their head, the next day they came in they were taller then me. Very curious experience,
My grandma was gone for two months and the first thing she asked was if I got taller. I doubt it I just got straighter from getting my posture fixed at the chiro.
I'm 5'6" and as tall as all the cismales in my family. Shorter men in the family so I blend in. We're all short, hairy irishmen. Little Thorin Oakenshields, the lot of us.
One option if you want to add an inch or so of height are these inserts you can get for shoes. I think called shoe risers?
It sounds like you still have a few good years of bone growth, though. :)
I'm a whopping 5''2.5' here, and my bones have already fused together so there's definitely no hope of growth once I get on T.. my doctor said MAYBE 1/4th or 1/2th of an inch in the next couple of years but it's highly unlikely. There are tons of reasons why it's still great to be short, and as long as you stand tall and proud, nobody will question your identity.
One question I have though for the other guys is where you get most of your clothing. I usually have to look in the Boys' section and it's a little embarrassing to be honest. Additionally, does anyone know some specific brands that aren't expensive and can fit a guy like me well?
I know a lot of Asian clothing runs on the smaller side. Perhaps some online shopping? I tried ordering an extra large once and it turned out to be closer to US medium xD Had to give it away.
If you're still seeing a pediatrician I'm guessing you're under the age of 18? Definitely don't give up hope! I didn't stop growing until I was 21 (put on 2 inches during college), and same for several of my class mates. Make sure you're eating healthy and definitely worth talking to a doctor about increasing height. And like many of the others have said on here, a 5'1" male is not viewed as anything other than a male once people start acting like adults.
Guess brand runs on the small side, and I know that American Eagle, the Gap, and J Crew sell extra smalls (best bet for selection is probably online)
As stated earlier, Asian brands run smaller and I luckily really like Asian fashion. c:
In jeans I'm barely a 28/28 so I can find those sometimes. I know I found some 28/28 chinos at Kohl's. The Kohl's "boys" section is also for 7-20 year olds so they have some okay stuff there.
American Eagle [or Aeropostale if you are cheap like me] have pants down to 27/28.
H&M carries 28 waist pants and they have XS shirts. H&M is where I get most of my shirts. I like the style there so it's great.
I fit into S size Hanes A Shirts that can be picked up at any department store if you want some cheap shirts to wear under button-ups.
I've heard reports that if you go on hormone blockers, you won't necessarily stop growing taller...but I don't know much about them. Still, you should ask your doctor about blockers, pronto. Someone mentioned HGH...that's something to ask your doctor about, too, I suppose.
I transitioned in my forties and grew a little on T--not quite an inch, but it changed my perception. I kept wondering why my therapist and one of my best friends seemed shorter than I thought they were. I've heard a few other reports from guys who say they have grown. I never really believed them until it happened to me. But you sure as heck can't bank on it.
Being very short in a land of giants (I live in Holland) has stopped me from transitioning for years. Like you, I didn't want to become this tiny man. But after a while, I couldn't take it anymore and this thought hit me: I can stay a short female and be miserable about being a woman, or I can become a very short male but at least be happy about being a man. Once I decided that, life became worth living and I haven't regretted it one bit. Yes, being short sucks, especially when you are shorter than all women too (honestly, the women here are -huge-). But hey, it's not all that matters in life.
I feel ya, man. I am 5'3" and at age 27 I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be growing any taller when I start T. Which bugs me a lot, because I know I can't do anything to fix it, and one thing I have always wanted was to be tall. But since I can't do anything about it really I try not to let it get me down and focus more on the things I CAN change.
I have heard, and I am no medical professional, so this is just what I've HEARD, that you don't actually completely stop growing until you hit 25. So if you are young, you may still have a chance to grow a bit more. If not though, don't sweat it, man. I know sometimes things can seem like such a big issue it just makes you wanna give up. Being short SUCKS, but it's not worth ending your life over. And as others have mentioned, there are ways to boost your height and make yourself look taller. (those shoes sound pretty nifty XD I might try those someday) And plenty of short guys out there, so you're definitely not alone!
Low self confidence is a lot more noticeable than low height. The more you worry about it the more people will pay attention and notice. Play it off, be confident, and nobody will give it much thought if any.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 29, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
Low self confidence is a lot more noticeable than low height. The more you worry about it the more people will pay attention and notice. Play it off, be confident, and nobody will give it much thought if any.
Amen sister!!! So very true. I actually think that confidence in a small guy is particular strong somehow.
--Jay
I personally was extremely depressed and discouraged to start living as a woman because of my chest measurements, and I was actually considering removing one of my lungs and then having all of my ribs broken, made shorter and merged together. Hmm, Yeah... That's what being transsexual is about. Living is so hard, it's so hard...
But I got over it! I don't think it's that big anymore! Hopefully when I get my breasts done, I'll just look like I have big boobies, as they will cover my chest and stuff :)
I'm not super short, I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE to be 5'2 or 5'1, if it was possible to swap with you, I'd fu**ing pay. Like a lot. A lot.
I'm 5'10 which is tall for a girl, but it's not super outrageously freakishly tall... I've learnt to accept that.
I think if you find yourself a girl shorter than you, which wouldn't be very hard, you would feel a lot more manly and it'd help a lot!
Quote from: aleon515 on March 29, 2014, 12:28:51 PM
Amen sister!!! So very true. I actually think that confidence in a small guy is particular strong somehow.
--Jay
Lol, there's something distinctly loveable about you. Sorryy, I've just seen you post and you remind me so much of my uncle
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 29, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
Lol, there's something distinctly loveable about you. Sorryy, I've just seen you post and you remind me so much of my uncle
Aw gee, so sweet! :) I seem to remind lots of people of their uncles. Too bad it isn't some hot thing somewhere but oh well.
@Crow crow-- this is about gender norms. 5'1" is to transmen what 5'11" is to a transwoman, outside of the gender norm. Of course there are cisfolks outside the gender size norms. I had a good friend, presumably cis and she was 5'11". No one thought anything of it. I think it's a nice little trans day dream that trans men and trans women could switch bodies. Too bad. :)
--Jay
Hey Brotha,
I am 5'3 and half and I know the feeling. For a long time it got to me, I bought the shoes, and tried other things. But what helped me was realizing there are TONS of guys who are short. Here is a good site that might cheer you up!
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/page/4
I also know that Frankie Muniez is 5'3 and hes had women left and right. lol Cheer up bro!
Dev
that actually made me feel better devon lol thanks
Quote from: Alexthecat on March 28, 2014, 01:49:15 AM
My grandma was gone for two months and the first thing she asked was if I got taller. I doubt it I just got straighter from getting my posture fixed at the chiro.
I think all grandmas ask that question. Mine does every time I see her, and I havent gained an inch in years.
But I get that it sucks being small. I live in Norway, and guys and girls alike tower over me. Like a hobbit living with elves.
I'm 5' even and completely broke. Stuck the way I am. I've noticed there are a lot of short cis gender males. How do you think asians and mexicans feel? Sheesh. There are some things you gotta tough out. If you want it bad enough... they aren't gonna letcha on hormones if you are "unstable". Really, there is nothing to worry about. The body and brain do not stop growing/developing until age 26. The sooner you are on the hormones, perhaps you can catch it in time. I like to think of myself as ninja-height, lol. Who is gonna be the first one to be shot in a spree? The tall folks! I get asked for help all the time cause of my.. er.. stature! Ah well, sometimes you havta just go with it.
Ninja height?! Hmm, I like that one. Most females are taller than I am, but there are still cisguys might height. Really it is NOT at all worth feeling suicidal over. It is not the end of life as we know it.
Btw, where are you getting Asian clothes. I'd love to know that. I understand there are nice stores, but we don't have any here (surprising maybe as we have lots of Mexicans here in NM and they tend to be on the short side).
Also, you are going to be an adult sometime. Adults are much less worried about such things.
--Jay
At a concert the other night, I ran into a number of guys who were significantly shorter than I am. Some guys are just short. And it's common for men to worry about their height. All the same, short cis guys don't have all of the other trans crap to deal with. For us, many things get blown out of proportion, and many feelings are heightened. Just recognize that there ARE a lot of shorter men out there who DO come to terms with their height and DO live happy lives, and you can be one of them if you hang in there and try to weather the storm. Eventually, you will likely care less and less. Hell, I was worried about my height while I was early in transition, and that feeling passed after I acquired more confidence--slowly. I do have the advantage of being a reasonable height for a trans man, but I was still obsessed. And now I'm not. I would love to be taller, but I'm not. I am who I am, and my confidence comes not from being as tall as I am but from WHO I am.
Give yourself time, and actively tell yourself that your obsession can pass and that height really doesn't matter all that much.
Well I have seen guys *shorter* than me but it's not often (but I have seen a LOT of guys, presumably cis) who were around the same height. My build is unusual for a guy but I do see it enough that it's not *that* unusual. The one time I saw someone significantly shorter, I realized he was a little person (dwarf). Actually looked up Little People of America. I am 1" too tall as a male.
I would agree with others that once you start getting read as male, it's fairly powerful stuff. You see that other people don't really give a darn.
--Jay
I'm a short guy, 4'11" or so to be exact. My doctor said it was unlikely I'd break beyond 5'2" and I stopped growing when I was like 12, so I can't be too mad.
I take comfort in other short guys (I think the one tumblr blog is fyeahshortguys or something) so I don't feel as bad. One of my friends is cis and he's the same height as me so it helps my confidence a bit knowing I'm not really alone. If your height gets you down, try shoe lifts.
Quote from: StormOfThorns on April 24, 2014, 11:29:47 PM
I'm 5' even and completely broke. Stuck the way I am. I've noticed there are a lot of short cis gender males. How do you think asians and mexicans feel? Sheesh. There are some things you gotta tough out. If you want it bad enough... they aren't gonna letcha on hormones if you are "unstable". Really, there is nothing to worry about. The body and brain do not stop growing/developing until age 26. The sooner you are on the hormones, perhaps you can catch it in time. I like to think of myself as ninja-height, lol. Who is gonna be the first one to be shot in a spree? The tall folks! I get asked for help all the time cause of my.. er.. stature! Ah well, sometimes you havta just go with it.
I'm 5'1.5 or 5'2, Mexican 8)
Sure sucks to be stuck at this height, but whatever, I know mexican cis guys my height or smaller plus Mexican chicks are either my height or smaller. My current girlfriend is 5'8 ;D
I'm 5'6 but I have met lots if guys here in Japan who are shorter. In fact, the fathers of several of my preschool students are between 5'1 and 5'4. Those include a sports trainer with his own gym, a real estate lawyer, a police officer and an investment banker. My husbands best friend (who jokes that hes an "average white dude) is an actor in New York, stands only 5'3.
I've know so many short guys even in my own family. My cousin Chad is 30 and 5'2, my brother is 5'6 just like me. There are actually a lot of really short guys, and they all worry about their height. But I haven't known even one of them to have trouble in their lives. My uncle (5'5) jokes that being short. I would post some of them, but uncle Denver isn't exactly PC.
If it helps though, I was 5'3 until I hit about 18. People stop growing anywhere from 16-25 on average. Our skulls/brains aren't even fully fused until we get into our 20's, so it's hard to know exactly how tall you will end up being. If you do stay short, just know that there are so many guys who share your experience, trans and not.
I'm short too: 1.55 metres, or 5'2 in old money.
Initially I let my lack of height put me off transitioning. I grew up in a country of very tall men (mostly around the 6ft mark) where shorter men were bullied and ridiculed for their lack of height. I didn't want to be picked on like that after everything I've already been through, so I went into denial.
Skip forward a mere two decades, and I was once again ready to transition. I started looking around me - really looking around me - and I noticed that there are plenty of guys around my height, and a few who are even shorter. I see them every single day. Their lack of height doesn't stop them from being men: why should it stop me?
Another way to think about it is this: think about any concern you might have that is putting you off transitioning. It doesn't matter what it is: your height, your voice, your chest... whatever. Now imagine that you'd been born a cismale with those same characteristics: would you feel forced to transition and live your life as a woman simply because you're too short? Or have a high-pitched voice? Or moobs? No, of course you wouldn't: you'd still be a man. So don't let these doubts get in your way.
And by the way... the real Marty McFly is just a smidge over 5'3. ;)
Oops, FTMDiaries, I was applauding you and got bumped (and inadvertently clawed, ouch) by a cat. Now you have a weirdly misspelled and unfinished applaud!
Maybe I'll ask FA to reverse it so I can do it right. ::)
Thanks Arch! Cats; gotta love 'em. ;)
FA Fixed it.
I can't bear to trim this guy's claws because he's disabled and needs those long, sharp front claws to get around. ::)
Much obliged! :)
I'm an astonishing 5'2 ((5'3 if I force myself)) and even though I'm young, that's probably as tall as I'll ever get, even when I start T. My advice is, instead of making it a bad thing, make it a great thing! Most of my cismale friends are taller than me ((Though I have a few who are shorter than me)) So they find it incredibly surprising when they find out I can beat them in an arm wrestle, or run faster than them with my short legs. 8D
Even when my friends make short jokes ((Which I love by the way)) I can always be like "Well, I can ___ better than you!" All in a joking manner of course! And it seems to be a theme or something in my school, but tall guys find shorter guys to be stronger or more intimidating XD There's nothing like a great dane running away from a ruthless chihuahua XP
If it helps any, google short male actors. You'd be surprised how short a lot of well known, successful and amazing dudes there are.
I'm 5'3" and I too get depressed a bit when I think about being this short and a guy, but despite that I know I'm not alone and height isn't everything.
Also before I forget, google height increasing exercises. There are some neat ones you can try to stretch your spine out a bit and help that won't do damage to you and since you(I would assume are still under 18) they might help a lot.
Quote from: Arch on May 01, 2014, 01:52:18 AM
At a concert the other night, I ran into a number of guys who were significantly shorter than I am. Some guys are just short. And it's common for men to worry about their height. All the same, short cis guys don't have all of the other trans crap to deal with. For us, many things get blown out of proportion, and many feelings are heightened. Just recognize that there ARE a lot of shorter men out there who DO come to terms with their height and DO live happy lives, and you can be one of them if you hang in there and try to weather the storm. Eventually, you will likely care less and less. Hell, I was worried about my height while I was early in transition, and that feeling passed after I acquired more confidence--slowly. I do have the advantage of being a reasonable height for a trans man, but I was still obsessed. And now I'm not. I would love to be taller, but I'm not. I am who I am, and my confidence comes not from being as tall as I am but from WHO I am.
Give yourself time, and actively tell yourself that your obsession can pass and that height really doesn't matter all that much.
When I isolate one attribute, like hight, I can see a lot of cismen who are outside the gender norms. It's when I think about many attributes in combination that I start to get dysphoria. Height, shoulders, hips, face structure. Few cismen are short, with narrow shoulders, with a round face...
I'm 5'1 i guess the only bad thing is you have to find stores that make clothes your size.......xs please :P?
Quote from: Emerson on May 02, 2014, 10:34:21 PM
When I isolate one attribute, like hight, I can see a lot of cismen who are outside the gender norms. It's when I think about many attributes in combination that I start to get dysphoria. Height, shoulders, hips, face structure. Few cismen are short, with narrow shoulders, with a round face...
Usually T will widen your shoulders and square off your face a bit, but really I haven't seen that many short trans guys who aren't read as male after about a year on T.
--Jay
I have a trans guy friend who is about 5', he's been on T for about five years now and if his height is a problem for him he never mentions it. Contrast that with a cis guy friend about the same height for whom his height is a constant topic of lament.
Quote from: DevonJermiah2 on April 23, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Hey Brotha,
I am 5'3 and half and I know the feeling. For a long time it got to me, I bought the shoes, and tried other things. But what helped me was realizing there are TONS of guys who are short. Here is a good site that might cheer you up!
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/page/4
I also know that Frankie Muniez is 5'3 and hes had women left and right. lol Cheer up bro!
Dev
thanks man, that page kinda pissed me off tho, some of those heights werent even short but i guess
I in no way am saying you do this but someone already mentioned there is a surgical procedure that you can do if it is that important to you. Personally to me I have wanted to be around 5'7 to 5'8 all my life and being 5'3 it really does mess with my head every single day I wear insoles in my boots and am terrified to ever encounter a situation where I'd have to take them off.. It plain sucks man you know that everyone that's ever felt like this know it but it's about how far it bothers you honestly get lifts or the surgery I am have been saving for years. It's your life and at the end of the day if you new something to change do it.
Hey man you are taller than me so you have at least one bro who your taller than. I am only 5 feet tall myself. I would love nothing more than to be taller but that is nothing more than a pipedream for myself unless I decided to subject myself to torture to make myself taller. I don't pretend that this fun but for me I got the short straw of everyone in my life. Both guys and girls are taller than me and its just something that I have had to learn to live with. I realize that I cant have everything go my way and Ive just had to adjust my views to them.
Hey, this is something you shouldn't have to worry about. Look at the alternative. That don't help either. If possible look into the pros and cons if modern medicine can lengthen your legs.
I'm MTF
Working as a man you get 600 dollars a year less for each inch shorter than another male(didn't like it). I'm taller then my father and he was OK with it. Like you can be 6'11" (I'm 5'7")but a guy bigger than you will get more.
The wages you get while working effect your Social Security when you retire.
If I was living my life as a woman, I would get only 75% of my salary. On a TV documentary that showed how TS's
live. One was a computer programmer, had surgery, and got only 75% of with she earned before SRS. But kept her job.
I'm glad I saw this thread! :D
For some reason I had this idea in my head that I was the shortest guy on the site (I'm 4'10" to 4'11" and I'm 22 years old), and that everyone here was 5'5" and up. So I'm relieved to know I'm not the only one in that height range.
It's also a relief to hear that my height shouldn't cause me any problems when it comes to "passing".. something I was pretty worried about. Because I can bind and I can pack, and I can take hormones to deepen my voice - and even grow a beard if I felt like it.. But height? Can't do anything about that.
All that said, I'm still a bit insecure because even if no one questions my gender.. short men don't seem to be very desirable to most people. But, oh well.. can't do anything about that, either. Probably shouldn't dwell on it too much.
Hi, Marty! Here's my two cents' worth:
I'm 5'3" and I lived a lot of years in the male world. When I finally decided to come out, I got two for the price of one--right gender and right size. Lucky for me.
But I'm not going to BS you. It's not fun being a very small male. Some of the things I had to put up with were discouraging, to say the least.
One example: a guy I knew was basically a very decent guy at heart, just incredibly brainless in ways. One day he said something to me I simply could not believe. I didn't just count to ten. I counted to ten million. I gave myself a couple of days to cool down before I went back and confronted him. And even so, I was so mad I was having a hard time trying not to break down crying. But I got through to him. He realized he'd gone way too far. And he never said anything like that again. So, yes, you'll have that sort of stuff to contend with.
On the other hand, what you'll discover is that if you're someone who's worthy of respect, people who themselves are worthy of respect will respect you. They won't let your size bother them. It simply won't be a factor with them. You'll discover that life is very liveable. Everybody has something they have to put up with. It's no fun, but the world is full of ****holes, and it's not just people who are too tall or too small who have to put up with them.
So you see, I'm in a position to compare: which is worse, wrong gender or wrong size? And I can tell you, it's no contest. You want to be the right gender.
I only clicked here to make sure someone linked the shortguys tumblr. xD
I got lucky, and I was very tall "for a girl," but my cisfemale child is very likely going to be taller than I am, and my cismale dad is barely my height. It's unfortunate that stature is often a flag for a person's gender status, but there are lots of tall women and short men. I don't know where you live, but I'm used to mixed populations where height is more connected to racial heritage than gender.
You might could compensate some with working out and finding other visible gender cues. There are tall women in heels and muscular short men who work that dynamic effectively.
I have four coworkers between both of my jobs that are 5'4" and bio-males (as far as I know at least, I never reach into their pants). Short isn't a female thing. It's a human thing. I know grown military manly men that are 5'3". I hate being short, but if it's any consolation, I started T when I was 19 and 5'3", now I"m 22 and 5'4 1/2", so maybe you will keep growing a little longer. Maybe not, but not every guy is tall. Not every guy has as full of beards as some of us do. Every single person in the world is different. Don't be too down on yourself over having a trait that even a sh-tload of bio-males have.
Also, shoe lifts are nice. I kid you not I stuff my shoes to make me taller sometimes.
I am a short MTF who lived as a short male for a very long time. First, from my experience doctors will tell you whatever will not get your hopes up. Also there might be things you can do as another poster mentioned using growth hormones.
When I was little the doctors told my parents that I would be short unless I took the HGH; however, they never put me on it, which resulted in me being about 5'5. My first impression was that this sucked big time. It took me awhile to understand that there are advantages and disadvantages to being a small guy, but none of them can EVER make someone less of a man if that is who they really are at heart. Although I gender myself female, life has taught me the unbelievable power of my male body, even if I am short and small at only around 120 lbs. For one thing, smaller males who stay in good shape have incredible strength and speed comparatively. When I was 18, I could butterfly my own weight and easily stand up to somebody much taller.
Think of it this way, some cars have big V8 engines and others come with smaller engines with turbo. Being a smaller guy is like having a turbo IMO. It is absolutely unbelievable what a smaller guy can be capable that a taller guy could never do in terms of speed, stamina, and strength to weight ratio. Being short does automatically rule you out of certain partners because many woman never date below a certain height; however, many still do and if you learn the rules, woman still respond well.
I know a cisgender man who is 5'1" and has no trouble dating. He is in the military. Everyone assumes he is much taller than he actually is because he's muscular and has intense energy. He seems huge even when you're standing next to him.