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Title: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 25, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
Hi, I was wondering what sort of differences in feelings are experienced once you start HRT. Have any of you noticed any changes to your thought processes as well?

Thanks everyone,

Angelia
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: stephaniec on June 25, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
happiness
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 25, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
OMG the changes I have had and all for the better. First the storm and constant battle in my head cleared up (lack of concentration, inability to multi task, A general fogginess, etc.) and nervousness and tension faded. I am able to fall asleep and get a full 8 hours every night now which before was 2 or 3 hours a night after tossing and turning. I am much more gentle and handle problems totally different because "T" is not making me a madman. I am also not driven by the insatiable male sex drive anymore which drove me nuts. I am just 180 degree's different than before. I used to be angry, irritable, isolated, depressed, etc. Now I am outgoing, friendly, happy and am a much better listener. There is a big debate on the next thing I noticed. I was told by my Endo doctor that "E" can change your sexual preference as well. In my case it has. I never once looked at or fantasize about a man in my life. I lived in a Firehouse most of my career around them all day with no interest, looks or anything else. Now, OMG I want one and yes, that way.  :)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: stephaniec on June 25, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 25, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
OMG the changes I have had and all for the better. First the storm and constant battle in my head cleared up (lack of concentration, inability to multi task, A general fogginess, etc.) and nervousness and tension faded. I am able to fall asleep and get a full 8 hours every night now which before was 2 or 3 hours a night after tossing and turning. I am much more gentle and handle problems totally different because "T" is not making me a madman. I am also not driven by the insatiable male sex drive anymore which drove me nuts. I am just 180 degree's different than before. I used to be angry, irritable, isolated, depressed, etc. Now I am outgoing, friendly, happy and am a much better listener. There is a big debate on the next thing I noticed. I was told by my Endo doctor that "E" can change your sexual preference as well. In my case it has. I never once looked at or fantasize about a man in my life. I lived in a Firehouse most of my career around them all day with no interest, looks or anything else. Now, OMG I want one and yes, that way.  :)
I like that "I want one".
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 25, 2014, 09:04:10 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on June 25, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
I like that "I want one".
*giggle*  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 26, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: stephaniec on June 25, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
happiness
Nice :)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 26, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 25, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
OMG the changes I have had and all for the better. First the storm and constant battle in my head cleared up (lack of concentration, inability to multi task, A general fogginess, etc.) and nervousness and tension faded. I am able to fall asleep and get a full 8 hours every night now which before was 2 or 3 hours a night after tossing and turning. I am much more gentle and handle problems totally different because "T" is not making me a madman. I am also not driven by the insatiable male sex drive anymore which drove me nuts. I am just 180 degree's different than before. I used to be angry, irritable, isolated, depressed, etc. Now I am outgoing, friendly, happy and am a much better listener. There is a big debate on the next thing I noticed. I was told by my Endo doctor that "E" can change your sexual preference as well. In my case it has. I never once looked at or fantasize about a man in my life. I lived in a Firehouse most of my career around them all day with no interest, looks or anything else. Now, OMG I want one and yes, that way.  :)
Wow, those are profound and wonderful changes. Thank you for sharing that. :)

I volunteered for a department that supplemented it's full time personnel with volunteers and I always felt closer to my sister fire fighters. In fact I'm still very close to them to this day.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 26, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
I was pretty much the shift cook, uniform fixer and cleaner upper. The funny thing is I heard several times "You are going to make someone a nice wife someday". Little did they know! ;D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 26, 2014, 11:57:54 AM
I try to keep an open mind but I can't comprehend ever wanting a guy. There is nothing more disgusting than the worm I between our legs and there is nothing more beautiful than a vagina (unless its covered by bush). Also guys piss me off with the way they treat women. I've always been a feminist and its gotten even stronger since I found out. However in not on HRT yet so who knows.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: LittleEmily24 on June 26, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
- Calm, happier, things just feel smoother. I feel totally relaxed and like things are easier to do.
- My perspective is a more empathetic one
- My reaction to things has changed
     ~ I'm slightly more squeamish than i use to be
     ~ I have a higher weakness for cute things like kittens or puppies
     ~ I've become a hopeless romantic
- I cry when I'm upset, and letting my emotions go freely is a lot easier than it use to be
- I am more in control of my emotions and i don't feel like im crazy anymore
- I'm less afraid to do things (not just socially but actively)
- I talk more with people
- I'm more confident
- I love much much deeper than I use to
- I am actually able to feel proud of myself
- I actually want to live
- I'm never angry anymore
- Sex is like an ongoing orgasm instead of a means to an orgasm lol

Quote from: awilliams1701 on June 26, 2014, 11:57:54 AM
I try to keep an open mind but I can't comprehend ever wanting a guy. There is nothing more disgusting than the worm I between our legs and there is nothing more beautiful than a vagina (unless its covered by bush). Also guys piss me off with the way they treat women. I've always been a feminist and its gotten even stronger since I found out. However in not on HRT yet so who knows.

Omg I felt EXACTLY like this when i first started HRT, and while I dont hate penis and i am still a feminist ~ I've kind of learned to appreciate men to some degree, and I actually crave their attention now despite being fully attracted to women entirely. I hate how guys treat women too, but there are decent men out there. So maybe that will change for you too.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 26, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
I know there are decent guys out there, but I can't help but being drawn to the negative.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Misha on June 26, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
Since I'm asperger and was pretty much emotionally numb the changes introduced shortly after I started taking estrogens were immense. And I think the people around me are even more surprised from that than I am :-) .

And also other psychological changes. I abandoned most of my previous free-time activities as they served sort of as anti-depressives for me and are not needed for some time. So I'm actually looking for new hobbies (I'm thinking about signing for an individual dance class). I'm no longer immune when there's violence in TV news or when I just read about it. It takes only a few seconds before I feel sick. Or the way how I perceive music. My dreams changed a lot too. From mostly dark colors it went to almost cartoonish colors :-) .

In summary I would describe it as high highs and low lows. Quite a welcome change given that before I didn't feel almost anything.

Still, my analytical/logical part wasn't damaged. I would actually say it's much stronger now as I'm capable of seeing the "big picture" at work much better. So the fact that I sometimes fall asleep (side effect of my blockers) in the office doesn't bother my line manager who sits only like 4 meters from me.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 12:13:38 PM
I get scared more easily.  I mean I literally jump at things now.  A loud noise makes me jump out of my seat whereas before it didn't.  I thought this was really interesting and I wonder if it has to do with females in general or just me in particular.  Fun times at the haunted house!
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kyra553 on June 26, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 26, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
I was pretty much the shift cook, uniform fixer and cleaner upper. The funny thing is I heard several times "You are going to make someone a nice wife someday". Little did they know! ;D

Omg I completely relate to these comments from having to work in a all male prison. I get these kinds of jokes all the time from staff and inmates. Well I'll show them! lol

I've only been on Eestro for a few weeks and the biggest thing I've noticed was my annoyance level dropped. I use to feel the front of my forehead tingle all the time from anger and I would be mad over little things. Which I completely hated myself for because thats not me. I caught myself getting mad over petty things like having to do a little extra work and would have to tell myself its no big deal, just do it.  Now things are allot calmer and I feel more like me most of the day now.

I haven't had any brain changes as the others have mentioned. I still like the same things and do the same things. I'm more curious about men. But I'm not actively seeking one. I also feel less inclined to be a smart a** for fun and I now approach things abit more friendly.  Other than that I've had the munchies non-stop since starting full estro. I've broke down and pigged out a couple of days. But I hopped on the scale and I'm magically still losing weight. lol  :o
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: Kyra553 on June 26, 2014, 12:17:07 PM

  Other than that I've had the munchies non-stop since starting full estro. I've broke down and pigged out a couple of days. But I hopped on the scale and I'm magically still losing weight. lol  :o

Same thing with me!  Wth is going on?  Not that I'm complaining!  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: LittleEmily24 on June 26, 2014, 12:37:23 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Same thing with me!  Wth is going on?  Not that I'm complaining!  ;D

May I ask when this started happening?! I would love to not have to do psychotic amounts of cardio just to lose 1 pound...
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: LittleEmily24 on June 26, 2014, 12:37:23 PM
May I ask when this started happening?! I would love to not have to do psychotic amounts of cardio just to lose 1 pound...

I'm not sure exactly but it was about a 2 weeks after that I noticed I was losing weight.  Of course I was 6ft tall and 245 lbs to begin with, but its down to 230 now.  But that's the thing, I haven't exercised any more than before and I actually eat a little more now.  I'm starting to think it might have been stress beforehand that kept the weight on.  Stress can do so many bizarre things to our bodies, or so I've been told.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 26, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: LittleEmily24 on June 26, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
- I talk more with people
- I'm more confident
I haven't started HRT but I've experienced this just from finally accepting myself as a woman.

Quote from: LittleEmily24 on June 26, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
- Sex is like an ongoing orgasm instead of a means to an orgasm lol
Oh my god...that sounds absolutely wonderful. :)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 26, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: Misha on June 26, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
Since I'm asperger and was pretty much emotionally numb the changes introduced shortly after I started taking estrogens were immense. And I think the people around me are even more surprised from that than I am :-) .

And also other psychological changes. I abandoned most of my previous free-time activities as they served sort of as anti-depressives for me and are not needed for some time. So I'm actually looking for new hobbies (I'm thinking about signing for an individual dance class). I'm no longer immune when there's violence in TV news or when I just read about it. It takes only a few seconds before I feel sick. Or the way how I perceive music. My dreams changed a lot too. From mostly dark colors it went to almost cartoonish colors :-) .

In summary I would describe it as high highs and low lows. Quite a welcome change given that before I didn't feel almost anything.

Still, my analytical/logical part wasn't damaged. I would actually say it's much stronger now as I'm capable of seeing the "big picture" at work much better. So the fact that I sometimes fall asleep (side effect of my blockers) in the office doesn't bother my line manager who sits only like 4 meters from me.
I'm an Aspie as well so I can relate a lot to what you're saying. I'm also an HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) so I've always been very emotional. Many times my difficulty with picking up on social queues would lead to emotional moments due to the aftermath. Ugh!

I'm glad to hear your analytical/logical abilities stayed in tact. I'm a programmer so that's going to be important.

So blockers make you tired? Has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jill F on June 26, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 25, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
OMG the changes I have had and all for the better. First the storm and constant battle in my head cleared up (lack of concentration, inability to multi task, A general fogginess, etc.) and nervousness and tension faded. I am able to fall asleep and get a full 8 hours every night now which before was 2 or 3 hours a night after tossing and turning. I am much more gentle and handle problems totally different because "T" is not making me a madman. I am also not driven by the insatiable male sex drive anymore which drove me nuts. I am just 180 degree's different than before. I used to be angry, irritable, isolated, depressed, etc. Now I am outgoing, friendly, happy and am a much better listener. There is a big debate on the next thing I noticed. I was told by my Endo doctor that "E" can change your sexual preference as well. In my case it has. I never once looked at or fantasize about a man in my life. I lived in a Firehouse most of my career around them all day with no interest, looks or anything else. Now, OMG I want one and yes, that way.  :)

OMG, Jessica!  Were we separated at birth?  I used to have to pass out drunk and/or stoned to sleep at all, and sometimes I couldn't fall asleep untill 4AM even with that.  Then I wouldn't want to get out of bed until afternoon, sleeping or not.

Until a couple of years ago, I had always ID'd as a straight guy because I was (and still am) very much attracted to women and not so much gay guys.  I have plenty of gay friends, and I was never once tempted to experiment with any of them.  I still do not desire anal nor oral with a guy (OK, maybe if I don't have to swallow), and I never really enjoyed being on the receiving end of a BJ (Hmm... wonder why that is?).  I did, however, drunkenly kiss a couple of straight guy friends in college.  Now that I can be completely honest with myself, I am most definitely interested in having heterosexual relations with guys in the future if it involves my vagina.  My wife will have to come along so she doesn't get jealous though. 

Who's up for a three way?

(Note to self, get bigger hot tub...  ;D)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: carrie359 on June 26, 2014, 01:39:44 PM
OMG,
Totally .. girly now.. I laugh a lot, I smile a lot.. everyone likes me better.. I shop till I drop.. I love clothes now.. which is good and bad.. I spend bucks on clothes and they have to match something. I just got new tennis shoes and had to match my new kick ass shirt and socks.. and jeans...
If I go into Yankee candle I practically have to be dragged out of there.. my sense of smell changed.
Lets see, I am so much more interested in other peoples lives and want details..which makes others feel good .. since we all want to know others care.
I act like a 15 year old girl seriously.. and if I have a drink I become a valley girl..sort of.
Ugh.. lets see.. guys are cute for the first time... seriously know after SRS I will only want guys.. I think??
I am giving my wife permission to have guy dates... and I am ok with that!!!! 
I play with my hair which is getting longer..  and I just plain feel female totally  and mentally I am...
For me I have never felt more content and happy with me.  I love it.
Carrie
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: carrie359 on June 26, 2014, 01:45:51 PM
OMG Jill you crack me up  :)
Carrie
ditto on the bigger tub.. I think?


Quote from: Jill F on June 26, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
OMG, Jessica!  Were we separated at birth?  I used to have to pass out drunk and/or stoned to sleep at all, and sometimes I couldn't fall asleep untill 4AM even with that.  Then I wouldn't want to get out of bed until afternoon, sleeping or not.

Until a couple of years ago, I had always ID'd as a straight guy because I was (and still am) very much attracted to women and not so much gay guys.  I have plenty of gay friends, and I was never once tempted to experiment with any of them.  I still do not desire anal nor oral with a guy (OK, maybe if I don't have to swallow), and I never really enjoyed being on the receiving end of a BJ (Hmm... wonder why that is?).  I did, however, drunkenly kiss a couple of straight guy friends in college.  Now that I can be completely honest with myself, I am most definitely interested in having heterosexual relations with guys in the future if it involves my vagina.  My wife will have to come along so she doesn't get jealous though. 

Who's up for a three way?

(Note to self, get bigger hot tub...  ;D)
Title: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Emo on June 26, 2014, 02:07:32 PM
From an emotional perspective, im more confused than ever.
From a sexual perspective, im more confused than ever.

I feel good about becoming a woman tho ive had my doubts. Im happier. I can let my "cuteness" out. Feel more purpose. Not just to be who i am, but im thinking of ways to help others.
Sexually, yes. I now identify as asexual. Thats not to say i have fantasies here and there. Before it was only curiosity not i think it would be a good thing to have a man around altho i have a sort of fear of men in general.
If i was sexual, id probably be lesbian leaning. But im not... So im not... But im not.

As for thought process... I havent noticed anything except now i understand how dumb men can be.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Misha on June 26, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: Angelia_Michelle on June 26, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
I'm glad to hear your analytical/logical abilities stayed in tact. I'm a programmer so that's going to be important.

I work as analyst/programmer too and the mood cycles I have already created a few funny moments. Once I was quite mad at my line manager because he adjusted the window blinds in our Prague office. My eyes are quite light sensitive and I was also at the end of my weekly cycle (induced by weekly injections) which means I got easily mad. The scene he got :-D .

I guess the word got out as a week later I wrote a "heads-up" warning message that I have a bad day on our development channel which is also shared with other cities. And my project manager who's in London added: "And you don't want to see Misha mad :-) ."

And regarding the constant smile/laugh: I have the same. The great thing about it is that it helps to train and maintain a feminine voice. Or at least it works like that for me. At start the emotions were new and confusing but I got used to them and would never change it back.

As for sexuality it was confusing for me prior to transition but that was fixed when my diagnosis got confirmed. Although it was an interesting feeling when I realized on escalators in the underground that I'm examining with my eyes the butt of a man in front of me few weeks after I started taking estrogens.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: PrincessPatience on June 26, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
Sex Drive decreased dramatically which i like!
No more nasty "urges" clouding my mind 24/7 and distracting me.
I look at men totally different now.
Emotional connections are more important to me with guys now.
I'm much more at peace and calm.
Crying isn't as hard as it used to be. Which i like because i would NEVER cry before.
I like how much more i'm in-tuned with my womanhood in a sense and I feel more connected with girls my age now.

Its weird i feel VERY different than how i was pre-hrt but in a sense i'm still me. It's very hard to explain.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 26, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: Jill F on June 26, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
OMG, Jessica!  Were we separated at birth?
You know it Sis! I was adopted, Hmmm :)
Title: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Emo on June 26, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
I still feel the urge to hold in my tears. Even when i want to cry. Its kind of a bad habit.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 05:05:35 PM
Quote from: Jill F on June 26, 2014, 01:32:33 PM

Who's up for a three way?

(Note to self, get bigger hot tub...  ;D)
Alright girls, get your minds out of the gutter, lol!!

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
I was always girly, but now I'm even more girly to the point it is bothersome to some of my tomboy girlfriends. They know how happy and excited about life I am now compared to how miserable and down I was before so they put up with me.

I'm happy again for the first time in my life since before I lost my biological Mom at age 6.
I feel 30 years younger.
I have 3x more energy.
I got and am still getting all my head hair back.
I can think more clearly and focus better on things.
I cry way more easily during sappy movies.
I'm way more emotional than before to the point I can't hide it like I used to be able to.
I get grossed out by things that before never used to bother me.
I've always loved makeup and jewelry and now won't leave the house without at least a little foundation  and eyeliner on, whereas before I would go out either way.

In general, 3 days in I felt invigorated -like I was reborn -that my body had been starving for estrogen all it's life. I'm never looking back, and at 49 I still look pretty good so I'll enjoy being able to wear skimpy things while I can!, lol!

Best wishes! :icon_bunch:

Ally :icon_flower:

Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 27, 2014, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 05:05:35 PM
Alright girls, get your minds out of the gutter, lol!!
Not in the gutter, I promise! They are in Jill's hot tub! ;D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: ErinS on June 27, 2014, 06:40:20 PM
Anger used to be the subtext of the entirety of my limited emotional range; now it's gone, and not only can I can experience feelings I never truly had access to, but they're pure in essence.

The last few days Ive been in a melancholy mood, and watching the music video for Lana Del Rey's 'Ride' turned me into a bawling mess.  Despite crying my eyes out, I also felt...happy; joy that I was being authentic for once, That I COULD be authentic.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Hideyoshi on June 27, 2014, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: Angelia_Michelle on June 25, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
Hi, I was wondering what sort of differences in feelings are experienced once you start HRT. Have any of you noticed any changes to your thought processes as well?

Thanks everyone,

Angelia

I cry a lot easier. A LOT easier.
Title: Sv: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Incarlina on June 27, 2014, 07:23:27 PM
My top three changes:
1. No more stressful background noise in my head.
2. A wider and stronger emotional spectrum.
3. Ermagerd, a baby! It's a baby! Look at the baby! Hi baby! Hiiiiiiiii! :D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 27, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
I was always girly, but now I'm even more girly to the point it is bothersome to some of my tomboy girlfriends. They know how happy and excited about life I am now compared to how miserable and down I was before so they put up with me.

I'm happy again for the first time in my life since before I lost my biological Mom at age 6.
I feel 30 years younger.
I have 3x more energy.
I got and am still getting all my head hair back.
I can think more clearly and focus better on things.
I cry way more easily during sappy movies.
I'm way more emotional than before to the point I can't hide it like I used to be able to.
I get grossed out by things that before never used to bother me.
I've always loved makeup and jewelry and now won't leave the house without at least a little foundation  and eyeliner on, whereas before I would go out either way.

In general, 3 days in I felt invigorated -like I was reborn -that my body had been starving for estrogen all it's life. I'm never looking back, and at 49 I still look pretty good so I'll enjoy being able to wear skimpy things while I can!, lol!

Best wishes! :icon_bunch:

Ally :icon_flower:

Thank you for sharing that Ally, especially about your hair growing back. I'm 46 and am concerned about that. Your mentioning that gives me a lot of hope. :)

Angelia
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 27, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: ErinS on June 27, 2014, 06:40:20 PM
Anger used to be the subtext of the entirety of my limited emotional range; now it's gone, and not only can I can experience feelings I never truly had access to, but they're pure in essence.

The last few days Ive been in a melancholy mood, and watching the music video for Lana Del Rey's 'Ride' turned me into a bawling mess.  Despite crying my eyes out, I also felt...happy; joy that I was being authentic for once, That I COULD be authentic.
I'm happy for you and I'm glad you're feeling better. Soemtimes we all just need a good cry. :)
Title: Re: Sv: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 27, 2014, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Incarlina on June 27, 2014, 07:23:27 PM
3. Ermagerd, a baby! It's a baby! Look at the baby! Hi baby! Hiiiiiiiii! :D
I forgot that one! Definitely! :)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Rachel on June 27, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
I have experienced a lot of what was already said and I add,

I can see colors much better,

I do not smell like BO an hour after showering. In fact my natural odor is rather nice a sweet,

The chest squeeze is gone and hand and feet tingles are gone,

I am so calm,

I can remember some dreams now and then because I have a longer and sounder sleep, but the dreams are bad.

I can listen now!

When I was younger I was not choosey about guys. Now I have a very specific image of the perfect guy. When I am with them (2) I am helpless. If they were interested it would be very difficult to not be with them.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Hikari on June 27, 2014, 08:20:22 PM
You know I am not sure if the changes I have as have been so intense but before I did proper HRT I did some herbal things so maybe I just eased into it because everyone seems to say I act pretty differently.

The things other people primarily say is that I am happier, a better listener (I.e I don't monopolize the conversation as much) and that I am more industrious.

What I notice is somewhat less interest in violence, I still love the violent game or movie but some things which were in my comfort level before elicit this visceral feeling of wanting to be rid of that violence.

I miss cuddling with a lover more for sure after HRT, I still only like girls but I do crave loving attention from them more now than before which is messed up as I was already needy and cuddly before.

I seem to have more interest in forming connections to other people I was always talkative in the right crowd but I am even more so now.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Ravensong on June 27, 2014, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: Angelia_Michelle on June 26, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
I'm an Aspie as well so I can relate a lot to what you're saying.

How many us Aspys are trans? ??? :o  And I can relate a lot to both of you.  I haven't started HRT yet, but this give me hope for myself.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
So far none of my interests have changed, but the most noticeable thing I've felt is a serene calm take over my entirity.  Now, I still get mad!  But, I feel like I can just wave my hand and feel confident about the situation. 
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnneB on June 27, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 26, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
I was pretty much the shift cook, uniform fixer and cleaner upper. The funny thing is I heard several times "You are going to make someone a nice wife someday". Little did they know! ;D

danggit Jess, that's twice you've made me spit coffee!!  LOL  but I'd hug ya jus' th' same!
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Evelyn K on June 27, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
More empathy for females and their personal struggles in a patriarchal society.
Immeasurable hatred for men with their testosterone driven evil. (mexican cartel beheading videos anyone?)
Did I say Hatred of Males, YET?

I can certainly say I 'feel' more extremes in all facets of my emotions.

As far as thought processes, I'm quite a bit more removed from my male leaning hobbies. Heck I built a powerful beast of a PC before transitioning in March and I hardly ever turn it on. ??? What a waste.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Misha on June 28, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: Ravensong on June 27, 2014, 10:26:45 PM
How many us Aspys are trans? ??? :o  And I can relate a lot to both of you.  I haven't started HRT yet, but this give me hope for myself.

The general percentage of people being transsexual is believed to be 0.01% while the estimated percentage of people asperger's is estimated to be around 0.5% depending on the study. Of course the problem here is that there are arguments whether asperger's is a standalone "disorder" or belongs into high functioning autism. Of course only a fraction of both groups is ever diagnosed.

Still the probability of getting the two combined isn't as small on this international forum :-) . And what hormones did to my previously nearly non-existent emotional side... Just wow :-D . My social skills are still nearly non-existent though. Nothing changed that. Best of luck Ravensong!
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Cindy on June 28, 2014, 01:55:41 AM
Quote from: Misha on June 28, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
The general percentage of people being transsexual is believed to be 0.01% while the estimated percentage of people asperger's is estimated to be around 0.5% depending on the study. Of course the problem here is that there are arguments whether asperger's is a standalone "disorder" or belongs into high functioning autism. Of course only a fraction of both groups is ever diagnosed.

Still the probability of getting the two combined isn't as small on this international forum :-) . And what hormones did to my previously nearly non-existent emotional side... Just wow :-D . My social skills are still nearly non-existent though. Nothing changed that. Best of luck Ravensong!

Latest study from New Zealand was 1.2%. A study of high school children reported just below 5% gender questioning.

The difficulty in all of the studies is definition of transgender from a medical point of view. The study suggesting 0.01% was based mainly on transwomen who progressed to GCS. This is now known to be an inaccurate parameter.

With the current referral level to psychiatrists in Australia for gender dysphoria the feeling is that the 1.2% level is also inaccurate and may be closer to 2%.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 01:57:29 AM
Especially in Sydney and Adelaide it would seem!!!
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 28, 2014, 02:07:05 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 01:57:29 AM
Especially in Sydney and Adelaide it would seem!!!
I knew it! ->-bleeped-<- is contagious!! ;D
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
I thought it's what they put in the drinking water...
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 28, 2014, 02:12:37 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
I thought it's what they put in the drinking water...
It tersalized! OMG it's airborne now! RUUUUNN!! Save the children and whales! :icon_yikes:
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Misha on June 28, 2014, 02:39:48 AM
I've read that here in Czech both the Ministry of Health and the Institute of Sexuology keep some statistics on the amount of people diagnosed with F64.0 - transsexual along with other demographic data and we're below the 0.01% here.

The transgender community is larger of course but I can't provide a percentage for that. And yes, the definitions for the terms vary greatly. So yes, depending on the study :-) .
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Ravensong on June 28, 2014, 04:00:27 AM
I didn't mean to sidetrack the thread....wow!  I just noticed that quite a few on this forum (relatively speaking) seem to identify as having Asperger's, so I was curious. 

Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: ErinS on June 28, 2014, 06:43:13 AM
Was woken up this morning to take care of some business that a subordinate should have been able to handle, was pissed about it but it was a GOOD pissed, and felt healthy. If that makes any sense.

I used to be terrified of my temper, not any more. I can now get angry when needed and yet maintain control.
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: Angelia_Michelle on June 27, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
Thank you for sharing that Ally, especially about your hair growing back. I'm 46 and am concerned about that. Your mentioning that gives me a lot of hope. :)

Angelia
I wish I had a before to show you. But unfortunately I only have this one taken at only 3 months hrt. Before, you could easily see my scalp on the top left side of my head. Now going on 6 months hrt it's way more thicker and growing like a weed!
The DHT suppressor I'm taking is Avodart (Dutasteride). I credit this miracle drug for giving me back my natural long straight black locks.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FssItS1e.png&hash=c6d886a3f580491e5aa692b8864abc2809232fe7)
This has completely filled in since this photo was taken.

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 28, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 11:18:44 AM

This has completely filled in since this photo was taken.

Ally :icon_flower:

Congratulations. That is "so" awesome. I'm looking forward to mine growing back as well. :)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 06:02:59 PM
So today I noticed an extreme bout of being irritable.   I also noticed today is the day I change my E patch.  Is this the peak and valley thing talked about?
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 06:02:59 PM
So today I noticed an extreme bout of being irritable.   I also noticed today is the day I change my E patch.  Is this the peak and valley thing talked about?
Probably, I have a friend who's on the patches and on the day she has to change it she doesn't feel so good. How the drop off affects each of us is different but if you always feel this way just before or on the day you change your patch that's probably what it is.

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Probably, I have a friend who's on the patches and on the day she has to change it she doesn't feel so good. How the drop off affects each of us is different but if you always feel this way just before or on the day you change your patch that's probably what it is.

Ally :icon_flower:


That's good to know.  Well, not so good for those around me that day!      >:-)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on June 28, 2014, 07:12:24 PM
Thought wise, I dart around inside my own mind more. That is to say I change thoughts quickly. It has lead me to appear more ditzy, but I am clearly of the same intellectual capacity of before. I find that quite interesting.

Emotionally, I feel more connected to people and driven to stay in contact. This makes the fact that my parents and brother have cut me off and my sister hardly talks to me hurt all the more. :-/ I talk a lot more with people in general. I am more open  about things although that could be social, as, post transition everyone who knew me from before, now knows my biggest secret, so maybe that leads me to be more open. I was pretty open before though too. I was a very emotional person before, but I have still noticed a slight reduction in the blockage of emotions that T causes. I am super super emotional now.

I smile a billion percent more, like, all the time. Literally, 100% of the time. people comment on it. Just today a guy a bar asked me how I could be so happy all the time and said he wanted whatever I was taking. I doubt he actually would though if he knew what it was! :-)
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Handy on June 28, 2014, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on June 25, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
happiness

this; 1000x this
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Misha on June 29, 2014, 02:54:33 AM
I actually forgot to mention two major changes in my psychology since I started taking estrogens. First came on Monday June 16th when I started to explore the surroundings of my house outside of Prague and then around the flat in Prague I use during the work week. Before I never felt the need to take a walk and look what's around. The freedom I felt...

The second major change came on Friday June 20th. I was shopping for some clothes for summer and special occasions with a colleague of mine and since my eye-sight is pretty bad I asked her if she could take a picture of me so that I could take a closer look the mirror couldn't provide me. That picture is the first one I actually shared with other people since I was 11. Otherwise I successfully evaded personal and family photos when I hit 11.

And all that comes to what was mentioned above: self-confidence and happiness :-) .
Title: Re: Feeling and thought process changes with HRT
Post by: Kaylee Angelia on June 29, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Misha on June 29, 2014, 02:54:33 AM
I actually forgot to mention two major changes in my psychology since I started taking estrogens. First came on Monday June 16th when I started to explore the surroundings of my house outside of Prague and then around the flat in Prague I use during the work week. Before I never felt the need to take a walk and look what's around. The freedom I felt...

The second major change came on Friday June 20th. I was shopping for some clothes for summer and special occasions with a colleague of mine and since my eye-sight is pretty bad I asked her if she could take a picture of me so that I could take a closer look the mirror couldn't provide me. That picture is the first one I actually shared with other people since I was 11. Otherwise I successfully evaded personal and family photos when I hit 11.

And all that comes to what was mentioned above: self-confidence and happiness :-) .
So glad you're able to experience this Misha. :)