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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Jera on July 26, 2014, 05:19:02 PM

Title: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jera on July 26, 2014, 05:19:02 PM
I need to move to a bigger city, to find therapy/group resources that just aren't available for me, here. I have more concerns than just those resources, though.

I'm currently closest to Las Vegas, but Vegas scares the crap out of me. It's friendly enough on the Strip, where the tourists are, but living there is another story altogether. There's a big ->-bleeped-<- scene, but I'm not a ->-bleeped-<-, and don't want to be one. I'm having a hard time finding a reliable therapist that actually deals with trans* issues, nor can I really tell how well trans* people are actually treated in their day-to-day life.

Los Angeles and San Diego seem like attractive choices, except that California has the highest cost of living in the country. That's a little prohibitive, unless there is plenty of work available there?

Seattle seems like something to consider, too, except I really don't know anything about it. That's starting to get to the kind of distance that is going to be difficult to move, just logistically.

Hopefully that gives you at least some sense about what I'm looking for. What are the advantages of your city? Is it hard to get around? If there's public transportation, is it reliable, and more importantly, safe? Therapists/groups readily available? What's the cost of living like? Is there work? And please feel free to share the pros and cons of things I haven't asked, if you feel like they're important.

I would prefer the West Coast of the US, just because it will be easier to get there. But I'm really open to anything. I'm even willing to consider overseas, if it sounds like it would be worth the effort required to get there.

What's your favorite city?
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Ms Grace on July 26, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
Since you said you were willing to go overseas... Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide in Australia are very trans friendly cities with great services and legal protections. Sydney is a bit pricey though.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Brooke777 on July 26, 2014, 05:42:27 PM
Seattle is great! I love it here!
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Arch on July 26, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
Sometimes I will see one of those "LGBT-friendly city" lists, and they always make me roll my eyes. Trans people are usually looking for specific types of trans-related services such as ample choice of therapists, endos, and possibly surgeons, as well as community and support groups. We look for what LGB look for, sure, but T is a lot more complicated. I have never seen a "top ten trans-friendly" list, but maybe I missed it.

I do remember cities such as Seattle, Denver, and Portland, OR, on those LGBT lists. I believe that these cities are pretty affordable and accepting, and they should have the services we usually want, but you would need to do more research. Most people will also mention SF, LA, and NY. I understand that all three of those cities are very expensive to live in, though. I should think that almost any city in the top ten or twenty in population would be large enough to have the infrastructure you need and would be worth at least some research.

One thing you ought to take into consideration is connections. In which cities, if any, do you have friends or supportive relatives or colleagues? If you work for a national company, where can you transfer to? If you have a particular profession and not just a job to pay the bills, which cities best support that profession? And for some folks, where do you want to go to school, or what if you decided to go back to school?

Another possibility is to live in an area very close to one of the hubs. For instance, some people don't mind living in less desirable areas (read: cheaper) in CA and driving a bit to get what they need (work, trans services, or both). But the areas they live in are often less accepting. I have the good fortune to be able to do the opposite--live in a progressive area but work in a progressive school in a less accepting area. So I pay more for living expenses, but I have decided that it's worth it. Doing what I do is a possibility for folks in some professions. But a truly reliable car, and the willingness to perform regular maintenance, is an absolute necessity for most people in either of these two scenarios because of the commute.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jera on July 26, 2014, 07:15:58 PM
No friends or relatives in this part of the country. I actually just moved here about 6 months ago to get away from them, what I thought at the time was just going to be a "fresh start." When I do come out, I will have a support network of zero.

Work doesn't tie me down, either. Mainly, I write. A lot. It's kind of a like a hobby I get paid for, and I can do that anywhere. It pays better some months than others, though, so I supplement that with one or two random jobs at times.

So really, I'm free to go anywhere, once I build up enough savings for moving, some rent, and a buffer. I just don't know where yet, and I really don't want to play the blindfold and stick a pin in the map/see what happens kind of thing. All the info you guys feel like sharing is appreciated.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Brooke777 on July 26, 2014, 07:31:46 PM
There is a rather large trans community here. Not to mention, we have an amazing support center dedicated to trans identified people. I had almost no issues while I was transitioning here. I strongly recommend this area.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Emily1996 on July 26, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
I would say LA, NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco, and mostly bigger cities where the population is diverse... I know that it's expensive to live there but I want to move to NYC after high school for college and right now I'm in western new york
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Brooke777 on July 26, 2014, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on July 26, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
I would say LA, NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco, and mostly bigger cities where the population is diverse... I know that it's expensive to live there but I want to move to NYC after high school for college and right now I'm in western new york

I have a few good friends in DC, and they have informed me that it is not a very trans friendly place. I know it should be, and based on local laws it sounds like it is, but it really is not that great. Plus, crime there is horrible!
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: helen2010 on July 26, 2014, 09:00:50 PM
I have spent time in Chicago and Seattle and would give both of them a tick.  San Fran is a little like Sydney, Vancouver and Melbourne and very liveable, trans* or not.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Brenda E on July 26, 2014, 09:17:42 PM
Thumbs up to Pacific Northwest.

Vegas = massive ->-bleeped-<-hole.  Excuse the language, but that's about as mild as I can express how nasty that place is.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Kylie on July 27, 2014, 01:36:40 AM
Seattle is just as expensive as most any city in California.  It will have the highest minimum wage in the country though, so maybe it would be more manageable.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Madeline182 on July 27, 2014, 01:42:54 AM
San Antonio/Austin if you're into the weather down here.  A very large lgbT community <-- (yes a capital T)
Not many choices in doctors in San Antonio, but quite a few more in Austin.  With that said, I'm headed to Seattle ASAP!!! Lol
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: GendrKweer on July 27, 2014, 02:20:53 AM
I currently live in the EU, but having lived and traveled all over the world, I can confidently second Sydney AU is one of the queer-friendliest places around, and an overall great place to live. Staying in the US, there is only one city for me--New Orleans (although the crime there is out of this world, esp in the summer). But so is the queer community. Not to mention the food, music, people, architecture, culture, general permissiveness.... I could go on and on! Check out NOLA sometime (the Marigny in particular). You might never leave!
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Klaus on July 27, 2014, 02:40:00 AM
In my opinion, Boston is one of the best cities to live for anyone LGBT, but especially trans folks. Most of New England is, really. There is a particularly great LGBT health center that has amazing transgender resources, from great doctors and therapists to support groups, housing and events. I really don't feel comfortable living anywhere out of New England, although legally and culturally Vermont, Massachusetts and Connecticut seem to be the best. Boston and Providence (some of the areas are not trans friendly, but most of the city is) are basically our only true cities, but even the more rural areas of the aforementioned states are nice, in my experience. Outside of particularly religious folks who are in the minority, even in Rhode Island (which is quite Catholic and, IMO, the least friendly NE state), I've yet to encounter anyone who wasn't friendly and reasonably well educated about transgender people. Coming from the South and Midwest, I've noticed that gender roles here are really blurred, so I think that may have something to do with why the area is so tolerant of us. It's also pretty secular, which helps, too.

Good luck with your search!
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jera on July 27, 2014, 03:56:33 AM
Quote from: Brenda E on July 26, 2014, 09:17:42 PM
Vegas = massive ->-bleeped-<-hole.  Excuse the language, but that's about as mild as I can express how nasty that place is.

It really, really is.

Thanks for the info, everyone. Now I can at least focus my research! It sounds like I really might have to visit Australia someday, too.

EDIT: I am still very willing to hear more opinions and advice, if anyone stumbling across this thread cares to share.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Asniceasme on July 27, 2014, 06:31:05 AM
For Australia, I would definitely agree with Sydney, Melbourne, and Adelaide. I would also add The Gold Coast to the list too...never had any problems there. But I have been told by friends that while there are some services, try to steer clear of Brisbane.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Rachel on July 27, 2014, 07:06:08 AM
Philadelphia PA, USA has the largest Pride Parade and Largest Trans Health Conference in the world.

We have a 6 by 6 block area called the gayborhood. 36 square blocks is not that big.

There is the Mazzoni Center which is a LGBT primary care. Mazzoni has a trans manual with recommended Gender Therapists ( there are a lot of trans in Philly).

The city has anti-trans discrimination laws ( unfortunately only a few counties in PA have such laws). Large universities and university Hospitals and large employers have trans policies. Where I work I am covered for procedures (not FFS or stomach work), therapy and HRT. Where I work there are 20,000 employees and 14 out to HR transsexuals (as of 16 months ago).

There are areas I would not go in Philly for safety reasons. You could be walking to the subway or elevated and get crap. Walking in some areas will get you hurt. With that said, most of the city is civilized and are too caught up with their own lives to care.

Funny story, I walked into the William Way LGBT center (where my 1st therapist was located). I went to the receptionist and said I am Cynthia and I am here to see Allison. He looked at me with a puzzled look ( there was a trans portrait gallery hanging all around the large waiting /lobby area). Also, there were several trans in the waiting area.  I said it again, I am Cynthia and I am  here to see Allison. There was a pause and when the light went off in his head he said oh, I will call her. His face was priceless (he was new). Point being, even in the gayborhood in the LGBT center we can be invisible.

I thought that if things fell apart in my life and I wanted to start over I would move to LA or Seattle.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Kylie on July 27, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
Just out of curiosity, how hard is it for a US citizen to get a work visa and become established in Australia?
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Cindi Lane on July 27, 2014, 12:40:21 PM
Portland, Oregon is good. I believe the cost of living is a little lower than Seattle but may depend on neighbor hoods. fairly large T community.
-Cindi
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: AnneB on July 27, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
It may just be Oregon, but I've been told Spokane is T friendly
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Brooke777 on July 27, 2014, 01:50:06 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on July 27, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
It may just be Oregon, but I've been told Spokane is T friendly

Parts of it is, but I would be careful over there. The East side of the mountains is fairly conservative compared to the West side. Also, if you are Native American, you should be a little wary.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jill F on July 27, 2014, 02:11:09 PM
Are there truly trans-friendly cities?  Sadly, I think there are just cities that are somewhat less unfriendly than others.   The fact remains that there are transphobic douchenozzles everywhere.   Some of these people are basically harmless, but transwomen still get beaten, raped and killed in San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and even West Hollywood.  We still have to have our guard up everywhere we go, and there are some neighborhoods where I would not even go in broad daylight nowadays.  A transwoman was recently beaten within inches of her life by a group of men at Hollywood and Vine.  Not the best neighborhood, but certainly far from the worst and somewhere that I still go fairly frequently.  Avoiding places where violent crime is common or where groups of younger men congregate is my best advice.
Title: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: jesselampel on July 29, 2014, 04:05:49 AM
What about Philadelphia or Chicago? Those are both trans friendly cities.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jera on July 29, 2014, 04:26:28 AM
Quote from: jesselampel on July 29, 2014, 04:05:49 AM
What about Philadelphia or Chicago? Those are both trans friendly cities.

I've actually heard really bad stories about Philadelphia.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jera on July 30, 2014, 06:06:39 AM
Quote from: Kylie on July 27, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
Just out of curiosity, how hard is it for a US citizen to get a work visa and become established in Australia?

I got a response from the embassy today, which I'll try to summarize here (it's quite long).

It's really easy to get a working visa for a year, which lets you get temporary "casual" employment with a max of six months from any one employer. If you're under 30, especially if you're a student, there's a two-year visa available.

Anything longer than that is less common, and generally only granted to "skilled" workers, like doctors, nurses, sailors, and the like. They've actually got a long list of things the Australian government feels are trades they could use more of. It's a lot easier to get one of these visas if you're willing to settle in a place the government asks you to. It's also possible to get one of these extended working visas through a sponsorship from Australian employers. Other than skilled workers, permanent visas are given to those with "refugee" status.

Less clear to me from reading this, is how self-employment fits in, so you're not being literally employed even if you do "work" in the country by selling your craft. I'm awaiting the answer to this.

Outside of this "skilled" visa, the other route to permanent residency/emigration has to come from an Australian citizen sponsoring you.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: tgchar21 on July 30, 2014, 06:51:56 AM
If you're looking for more information on emigrating to Australia you might check out this forum (http://yanksdownunder.net/index/) which caters to Americans living in or wanting to move to Australia. (Edited to fix a typo.)
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: michelle666 on July 30, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
The Boston area is pretty decent for us. The health care is excellent at Fenway. I've never experienced harassment with the exception of not getting that one job, but that actually happened in New Hampshire. I live full time, got hired at a great job and I'm always out doing stuff.
Title: Re: T* Friendly Cities
Post by: Jess42 on July 30, 2014, 02:06:44 PM
I don't know about how true this is anymore but back in the 90's, Trinidad Colorado had quite a big transgendered population for that sized city. I do believe it was at once called the sexchange capital of the US. Now I can't say for sure about today but a lot went there for SRS. I have been through there countless times driving a truck between Denver and Aluquerque NM and there was a ittle truckstop on the outskirts and I think there may have been a couple of transwomen working there. BTW I wasn't gonna' ask them about it but you might want to look into it.