Hi everyone :) I'm Julie and I'm 20 years old, and I'm from Poland.
I will be leaving for my SRS with Dr. Chettawut in 2 weeks, I will be staying at the Dusit Princess hotel from December 1st to December 29th. Needless to say, I'm pretty terrified. Excited too, of course, but I'm aware of the long journey still ahead of me after the surgery. I've never undergone any surgery in my life, so this is big for me. Plus, being still so young and going by yourself across the world to go through such a major thing is pretty scary to me on its own. But now is the only time I can do this without it getting in the way of my life, and the goals I want to achieve in the future.
Anyway, is anyone else from here gonna be staying at the Dusit around the same time? :3 It would be nice to know and have someone to talk to while I'm there, since I'm already scared.
xoxo
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Welcome Ivy! I am a recent Chettawut girl and Im still here in Thailand at the Bangkok Rama Hotel and I had my surgery on Nov 1st and I'm leaving this sunday on Nov 23rd. I travelled here alone and though I felt the same way you're feeling and scared but yet so excited to finally get this big goal accomplished.
BUt I can assure you, there is nothing to worry about. Dr Chettawut and his nurses are extremely nice. Ms Som and Ms Sri understands and speaks english really good and Ms Sri will be visiting you daily except Sundays to check up on you and examine your wound to make sure everything is going well. You will be taken really good care of so there's definitely nothing to worry about.
After surgery, most importantly is take your meds and if you ahve any concerns or questions ask the nurses or Dr Chettawut. There will definitely be other girls who undergone surgery with Dr in the same hotel at the Dusit. But after surgery you're most likely will be spending more time recovering at the Dusit instead of going out and shopping or all that stuff. But most girls recovery is different. For me, I stayed mostly in my hotel room, resting up. Tried to walk to the supermarket with my neighbor who got her surgery 9 days before me and I almost fainted badly. That's when I realized I need more time to recover lol.
But if you got any questions, ask. Congrats and good luck!
Thank you :3 I'm sure I'll be fine, but when the whole process pops into my head, I feel scared to the core. But what you gonna do xD
I'm glad everything went ok for you, were you satisfied with the service at the Rama hotel? I might have to switch, since I've recently reviewed my budget and well... If I need the additional skin graft, I might not be able to afford food :D I figured I'd be more comfortable at the Dusit, but I'm not sure if going on a involuntary food strike would be worth it ^^
The average meal at the Dusit is between 250-450 baht. (Prices don't include service and tax). I stayed there in July / August. Next door is the large shopping center with lots if food stalls but you will need to ask for English menu's.
I had thought about Rama self catering but in the end was happy to have my meals cooked for me. Something less to worry about. With the big breakfasts I would often have only fruit for lunch and a large meal in the evening.
I have some write ups on Susan's - in the SRS section. In total in four weeks taking a double room (I had guests stay with me) and all the meals was about 80'000 baht. This included room service for meals.
You are in safe hands there. Hope it all goes well for you
Hi Posion_Ivy
Hope it goes well for you. And pardon me for hijacking this thread :p
I'm gonna be at the Rama cottages from mid Dec to end Dec. If anyone wants to share a 'cottage' (?) we can do it and get a bigger room/split cost. I PMed another girl BW something but haven't heard from her.
If anyone is keen, we can hang out. Christmas in the hotel room sounds miserable. I will be alone.
Thank you! :)
Quote from: Hanazono on November 18, 2014, 01:41:04 AM
I will be seeing Dr Chet in Mid January and lodging in the Rama. I am probably going to cook or have a friend cook with me, and I will be declining any skin graft.
Hana, i think the skin graft is required in case your scrotal skin is insufficient, Doctor Chettawut will not hesitate to extend his work by using the adjacent groin skin to make sure that your total skin graft will be sufficient for the maximum depth of the vagina. But im not really sure about that.
Ivy,
me and a few girls are here at the Rama Hotel. We have our own cottages specially for Dr's patients. In the cottage mainly like a fully furnished studio. There's a hotplate and pans where you can cook and also have the option of getting room service. There's also a bank atm nearby where you can take money and convert it to baht and also a 7-11 and a few other shops.
I do recommend you to not buy too much room service lol and rather stock up on food before your surgery, I recommend it unless you have someone who can go to the store and buy groceries while you rest at the hotel.
The Bangkok Rama Hotel also includes free breakfast every morning but we can't choose what we want if it's brought to our room in the morning.
Im paying 1100 baht a day which is $33. But I have been ordering a lot of room service since i been here after my surgery and couldn't really go anywhere during recovery so I regret not buying any groceries and only a portion before surgery.
Thank you for all the responses, I appreciate :3
Thank you jojo for the insight, I'm considering switching to the Rama hotel. Stocking up was my plan all along :D Water and bread all around xD
Ms. Som was kind enough to calculcate the total price difference between Dusit and Rama for an approximately 25 night stay... so I might just be able to survive if I switch :D
blackponyx if I do end up switching I hope to see you there :D The fact I'll be away for Christmas bums me out a little bit too, it's my favorite time of year :3
It's my favourite time of the year too! Back home we have pretty lightings everywhere and carols and the whole festive mood. I'm just sad that it's not a holiday here because this is a Buddhist country, but still, we can have our own fun! ^.^
xx
blackponyx, well when I was checking out Bangkok on Google Streetview, the pics there were taken in January, and the Seacon Square mall still had awesome decorations :D So I guess some areas there have given in to the Western spirit :P But it's not the same when there are palms trees instead of christmas trees, I guess. I will have to email Ms. Som about switching to the Rama, unfortunately, I was so excited about the Dusit and their wine bar *_*
On unrelated note, I know I have to stop taking estrogen and blood thinning medications, but is it ok to still take T-blockers? I emailed the office about it twice, and each time they only mentioned E and the blood thinning meds. They also said I could bring all the meds with me in case I have trouble withdrawing ( which I probably will have, I'm very fond of my breasts and don't want them to shrink even a little bit :P I've also heard of hair loss issues... and as it happens, I've just gone through a hair-loss phase for some reason and have half of what I orginally had left on my head :P )
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 19, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
On unrelated note, I know I have to stop taking estrogen and blood thinning medications, but is it ok to still take T-blockers? I emailed the office about it twice, and each time they only mentioned E and the blood thinning meds. They also said I could bring all the meds with me in case I have trouble withdrawing ( which I probably will have, I'm very fond of my breasts and don't want them to shrink even a little bit :P I've also heard of hair loss issues... and as it happens, I've just gone through a hair-loss phase for some reason and have half of what I orginally had left on my head :P )
Do not risk it. Last thing you need is a bleeding complication or infection or worse. There's a good reason why you need to stop hormones and anything that you take hormones with as a booster and it's to prevent Deep Vein Thrombosis or thinning of the blood.
I have been on HRT injections with progesterone booster for 15 years, started when i was 16 and now im 31 and I missed 1-2 months a few times but that didn't shrink my breast where i didn't have anymore so you don't need to worry about that.
When I found out my surgery date as stated in DR Chettawuts website, "You must stop hormones 1 month before surgery". I completely stopped HRT, Vitamin with Vitamin E, and any boosters for the hormones at 1 month and a half before surgery. I don't smoke nor drink alcohol but rarely so that was taken care of. Within that whole month before surgery I was very careful. I didn't wanna develop any diabetes, diseases, or put anything in my body that would kill me during surgery or while in recovery so I had to be really strict on myself.
And even though I kept myself almost to perfect health before surgery, I am glad surgery went well and there was no complications but this was a major surgery to get SRS + Breast Implants and still 3 weeks after srs+BA I find myself very fragile regardless if my healing is going great. I almost fainted a few days ago due to a long walk and standing up too long at the Tesco supermarket, I thought i was gonna die. I realized i need to take better care of myself and give myself time to rest.
My stitches are healing great but as for my blood sugar and everything else that uses my energy and inside my veins, it was running a healing marathon using up every source of energy to rejuvenate my body and that's when i realized, I need to be strict and limit my walking, limit my strenuous activities. I needed to take things more slowly.
But just be careful and good luck. As long as you follow Dr Chettawuts instructions and the nurses instructions who will be taking care of you after surgery, regardless how much you would hate it or how painful it may be, they know what's best, and you will do great. They have had experience in caring for tons of patients like us who undergone the same thing.
That's good to know, thank you. From what they told me, I assumed T-blockers were fine, but I'll stop taking them as well asap. I only stopped the estrogen and blood thinning meds a few days ago. By the way, you look bangin' :o I thought you were my age :o
I'm in good shape overall, I work out like crazy these days ( up untill a year ago I was kinda chubby and my bloodwork before starting HRT was a bit worrisome, but I took care of myself and now I weigh around 50kg, being 170cm high ). My bloodwork prior to SRS turned out fine, I can definitely see the improvement since last year, I only have a slightly increased platelet count, but only by a little bit.
But junk food is the love of my life :P The only difference between last year-me and today-me is that I work out a lot, but only because I love McDonalds, but still want to be thin. But because of SRS and not being able to work out for a couple months, I'm planning to go on a healthy diet after the surgery. It's gonna be a challenge, but I hope I can maintain my current weight untill I can get back on my stationary bike and throw down on some pizza :D
Right now I'm working out extra and eating my favorite foods, because I will be able to do neither after the surgery :P
Haha thank you :3 Hope it goes well for you too!
I hope all the junk food I'm eating now won't disturb my recovery :o
Well then Christmas over there will be an interesting experience... Considering I'll still be in early stages of recovery I don't think it will matter too much though :P
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 19, 2014, 11:27:13 AM
That's good to know, thank you. From what they told me, I assumed T-blockers were fine, but I'll stop taking them as well asap. I only stopped the estrogen and blood thinning meds a few days ago. By the way, you look bangin' :o I thought you were my age :o
I'm in good shape overall, I work out like crazy these days ( up untill a year ago I was kinda chubby and my bloodwork before starting HRT was a bit worrisome, but I took care of myself and now I weigh around 50kg, being 170cm high ). My bloodwork prior to SRS turned out fine, I can definitely see the improvement since last year, I only have a slightly increased platelet count, but only by a little bit.
But junk food is the love of my life :P The only difference between last year-me and today-me is that I work out a lot, but only because I love McDonalds, but still want to be thin. But because of SRS and not being able to work out for a couple months, I'm planning to go on a healthy diet after the surgery. It's gonna be a challenge, but I hope I can maintain my current weight untill I can get back on my stationary bike and throw down on some pizza :D
Right now I'm working out extra and eating my favorite foods, because I will be able to do neither after the surgery :P
Lol well thanks for the compliment. That pic is actually a week before I came to thailand for my surgery now I need to update my pics. But anyway, do not worry too much about losing weight. 3 days before surgery I was 156lbs and then I had to do laxatives 2 days before surgery and was on a strict clear liquids food and juice water die so I lost about 10 lbs from that. Then after surgery I lost about 10 more pounds due to clear liquid diet for 5 days lol. So yea don't lose too much weight cause all the fat you have right now, you'll need that after surgery for as much energy you can convert fat from.
As for junk food, omg I'm gonna pig out when I get home. Been craving for American food soooo much even though there is a McDonalds here, I ain't about to walk that far and get close to fainting again lol.
You're welcome :o And thank you, from what you're describing seems like I should actually gain some weight xD If I lose 20 pounds there will be none of me left :o
Haha, if McDonalds delivered, I'd be screwed :D
Hanazono, thanks, I wish I knew how though :D
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 19, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Haha, if McDonalds delivered, I'd be screwed :D
If McDonalds delivered and since they have kfc too, I would be happy lol. Now if they had pizza hut and delivered, now that would be amazing lol.
Quote from: Hanazono on November 20, 2014, 12:13:49 AM
waittt...don't they? I'll be asking my thai friends...
What!? Omg if they did i would be so mad at myself for not knowing about it from the day I landed here lol
Haha :D I'm excited to try some Thai food while I'm there too... I'd love to go out on the town while I'm there before the surgery, but I'm super afraid I'll get lost and die xD I sometimes get lost in my own city here in Poland, let alone Bangkok, where asking for directions might even be a problem :o This is another reason I was hoping to meet someone here prior to travelling.
I see we're all junk food lovers :D
Oh yes. The Dusit Princess is only one of three Dusit hotels in Bangkok. And the other ones are closer to the centre. Couple of times had to take two taxi's to get to Dusit Princess. Or rather Seacom Square as they might have heard of this.
But dont hand write the address. Most of the taxi drivers we had did not have their glasses and needed to read printed documents at a long distance. Even GPS map software on a large android screen confused them...
Thank you :3 I'll get lost for sure, it's just what I do xD
Monkeymel your posts on the forums about your journey and recovery are very informative and insightful, and I'll be turning to them for sure after the surgery :)
One more question though... Any suggestions on what to pack with me to Thailand? When I emailed the office about it, all they said was "light stuff". Well obviously I know it's hot and humid over there, so I'll be bringing my summer attire. Although short dresses, shorts and leggings are pretty much all I own in that department :P They also said that they would supply everything I need for my post-op recovery.
So far I figured I should buy some night gowns and oversized underwear... but any other ideas/suggestions, on what I might need, or maybe something that you wish you had brought with you that you didn't but could have been useful?
Sleeved tops that cover shoulders - air con can be quite strong. Also needed if you visit the palace or temples
Long skirts - ankle length. Again needed for temples etc, and also has a good look. Short skirts are ok but looked out of place unless school girl.
It took me 9 weeks post op to be able to wear tight trousers - leggings at 12 weeks. But loose (around crutch) cotton trousers were useful for a change.
Easy slip on shoes. Or simple buckle - you won't be comfortable tying laces and will probably live in sandals. But not socks and sandals!
Something smart - my one missing item - as I wanted to go out for a cocktail. We also had the queens birthday when people dressed smartly.
In the clinic you will be in gown. The clothes you wear in will pretty much be the clothes you wear going back to the hotel.
Most of the time I lived in long skirts and sleeved t shirts with occasional jumper for cold air con. Board shorts for the times sat beside the pool with a bicini top
Another advice is, download the Thai app on your phone from the google/apple app store on your phone. It helped me a lot. Especially when I had to speak with the taxi drivers lol. I used the app and pressed on the sound icon and it translated the words for me lol
Quote from: jojo702 on November 21, 2014, 01:31:50 AM
Another advice is, download the Thai app on your phone from the google/apple app store on your phone. It helped me a lot. Especially when I had to speak with the taxi drivers lol. I used the app and pressed on the sound icon and it translated the words for me lol
That sounds great - I got a feeling that as a tonal language I've got no hope of speaking Thai. Do you know the name of the app? Apple or Andriod?
It's name is "Learn Thai - Phrasebook" made by Codegent
Quote from: jojo702 on November 21, 2014, 07:50:15 AM
It's name is "Learn Thai - Phrasebook" made by Codegent
Thanks, its really nice. Very clear and simple, and I like the way you can choose a male or female voice.
Quote from: AnonyMs on November 22, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
Thanks, its really nice. Very clear and simple, and I like the way you can choose a male or female voice.
I know right! I bought the pro version for more selections. But whenever I had a hardtime communicating with the people in Thailand and since i traveled alone, I would quickly click on the app and click on my favorites and press it and they understand and help me out much better with what i needed lol
Aww that app sounds super useful :o I'll try searching for a similar one for my Windows Phone ^^
Quote from: Monkeymel on November 21, 2014, 01:15:11 AM
Sleeved tops that cover shoulders - air con can be quite strong. Also needed if you visit the palace or temples
Long skirts - ankle length. Again needed for temples etc, and also has a good look. Short skirts are ok but looked out of place unless school girl.
It took me 9 weeks post op to be able to wear tight trousers - leggings at 12 weeks. But loose (around crutch) cotton trousers were useful for a change.
Easy slip on shoes. Or simple buckle - you won't be comfortable tying laces and will probably live in sandals. But not socks and sandals!
Something smart - my one missing item - as I wanted to go out for a cocktail. We also had the queens birthday when people dressed smartly.
In the clinic you will be in gown. The clothes you wear in will pretty much be the clothes you wear going back to the hotel.
Most of the time I lived in long skirts and sleeved t shirts with occasional jumper for cold air con. Board shorts for the times sat beside the pool with a bicini top
Looks like I'm gonna look very much out of place... Oh well. I'll try digging up my old fat-clothes for the post-op period ^^
Well... I'm leaving for my plane in a little over 24 hours. I still need to run to the exchange office to get some USD to exchange into Thai Baht at the Bangkok airport. Also do some last minute packing.
I'm actually pretty terrified at this point. I've been crying for the past 2 days. Also taking the original SRS letters from the court documentation in Poland could postpone my legal namechange process, I've been waiting for a court date since June 2014.
The court ordered doctor that was supposed to pick up my medical documentation over a month ago failed to do so, I think I'm just gonna get an appointment with him when I get back and shove the documentation down his throat myself, and also slap my brand new vagina on his desk :P Ugh. Polish court system xD
Quote from: Hanazono on November 28, 2014, 05:36:30 PM
I don't often give out hugs but here's one
*hugs* .
if you're still there in Rama when I land in 8Jan we can see each other.
Thank you <3 Unfortunately I'm leaving back for Poland December 29th ;(
Good luck Julie!! All the best from Ireland!
-Michael
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 28, 2014, 04:42:36 PM
Well... I'm leaving for my plane in a little over 24 hours. I still need to run to the exchange office to get some USD to exchange into Thai Baht at the Bangkok airport. Also do some last minute packing.
I'm actually pretty terrified at this point. I've been crying for the past 2 days. Also taking the original SRS letters from the court documentation in Poland could postpone my legal namechange process, I've been waiting for a court date since June 2014.
The court ordered doctor that was supposed to pick up my medical documentation over a month ago failed to do so, I think I'm just gonna get an appointment with him when I get back and shove the documentation down his throat myself, and also slap my brand new vagina on his desk :P Ugh. Polish court system xD
Once you land in Thailand, there will be a green exchange currency booth you can change your currency to thai. Then the driver will be waiting for you and if you get lost or can't find him, call Ms Som. But you should see him because he'll be holding up a sign with your name on it. He is the driver who will drive you to and from the airport, hotel, and Dr Chettawit clinic.
I can advise you to bring a lot of stay at home dresses or skirts because for the most time in recovery at the hotel, you'll mostly be wearing no underwear at all to keep the stitches and wounds as dry as possible because too much moisture might loosen the stitches.
Also, Ms Sri and another nurse will visit you daily at your hotel room except Sundays so anything you need more of like wet wipes or lube, ask her but you'll have to pay for whatever extra you need so make sure you have extra baht.
Follow Ms Sri and Dr Chettawuts instructions importantly. Anywats, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Good Luck julie!
Quote from: jojo702 on November 29, 2014, 12:01:05 AM
Once you land in Thailand, there will be a green exchange currency booth you can change your currency to thai. Then the driver will be waiting for you and if you get lost or can't find him, call Ms Som. But you should see him because he'll be holding up a sign with your name on it. He is the driver who will drive you to and from the airport, hotel, and Dr Chettawit clinic.
I can advise you to bring a lot of stay at home dresses or skirts because for the most time in recovery at the hotel, you'll mostly be wearing no underwear at all to keep the stitches and wounds as dry as possible because too much moisture might loosen the stitches.
Also, Ms Sri and another nurse will visit you daily at your hotel room except Sundays so anything you need more of like wet wipes or lube, ask her but you'll have to pay for whatever extra you need so make sure you have extra baht.
Follow Ms Sri and Dr Chettawuts instructions importantly. Anywats, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Good Luck julie!
Thank you ^^
I packed all my dresses and skirts, they're not too 'stay at home though'. For that I figured I'd bring my 3 nightgowns that I bought for the trip and my oversized extra loose PJ pants :D I hope washing them in case they get dirty wouldn't be a problem.
I am bringing the 32.000BHT for the possible skin graft and 10.000BHT for food and additional supplies. I just hope it's enough... Well actually I'm bringing 1350USD that I will exchange.
I have one question though, does Rama Hotel provide towels, robes and such or do I need to pack my own? It's a silly question probably, but in Poland it's not always a given :P
Also, it's kinda hard to tell from Rama Hotel's website, how is the WiFi situation? I need the internet for work also, and communicating with my family and friends so it's very important ^^
thank you again so much for all the kindness ^^
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 29, 2014, 12:20:55 AM
Thank you ^^
I packed all my dresses and skirts, they're not too 'stay at home though'. For that I figured I'd bring my 3 nightgowns that I bought for the trip and my oversized extra loose PJ pants :D I hope washing them in case they get dirty wouldn't be a problem.
I am bringing the 32.000BHT for the possible skin graft and 10.000BHT for food and additional supplies. I just hope it's enough... Well actually I'm bringing 1350USD that I will exchange.
I have one question though, does Rama Hotel provide towels, robes and such or do I need to pack my own? It's a silly question probably, but in Poland it's not always a given :P
Also, it's kinda hard to tell from Rama Hotel's website, how is the WiFi situation? I need the internet for work also, and communicating with my family and friends so it's very important ^^
thank you again so much for all the kindness ^^
OK so any underwear you might wear when going out to walk around to short distances, make sure to use the maxi pads they give you after surgery and also use the underpads because it could stain the bed especially when dilating.
As for the hotel, I'm not sure how the dusit is compared to Bangkok Rama except the price but I do know that at the Bangkok Rama hotel, they provide you a package of small to big towels and you can always request for more or for the housekeeping to clean up your room. They put 2 bottles of water and a toilet paper on your bench outside every afternoon.
When I stayed there, I had towels and toilet paper and a lot of bottled water that was given daily. There's a hanging door sign on the door where if you turn it around there's a sign that says, "please clean my room" when they see that, they knock on the door and come clean your room and replace towels, bottled water, clean floors, change trash can, sheets, and replace hotel soap and shampoo but I bought my own so they didn't ever need to do that.
As for the money you're bringing, that should be enough. But make sure you have money on the side to pay for the hotel before you leave and also stock up on juice, drinks, chips, snacks, and food before surgery.
Thank you so much again ^^ And does the Rama Hotel provide adapters for electronics etc?
I'm leaving for my plane in a couple hours. I'm going from fierce "I can do this mode" to breaking down while making tea. Such a rollercoaster.
Thank you for all the kind words of support! <3
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 29, 2014, 04:06:22 PM
Thank you so much again ^^ And does the Rama Hotel provide adapters for electronics etc?
I'm leaving for my plane in a couple hours. I'm going from fierce "I can do this mode" to breaking down while making tea. Such a rollercoaster.
Thank you for all the kind words of support! <3
No problem! Glad to be of help. Some electronic adapters such as phones adapters and laptop adapters will work but some will not and you'll need a adapter that has the right voltage for the outlet in your hotel room. Like for example, my Nintendo 3ds, I couldn't charge that with the regular charger and wasn't able to buy an adapter because I was not fit to go anywhere after surgery.
I'm waiting to declare my luggage at the airport right now xD
I haven't purchased any adapters here at home, I assumed the hotel would provide it. I only have my small laptop and my phone with me as electronics go... Well.
The adapter issue slipped my mind until yesterday o.o
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on November 29, 2014, 11:34:21 PM
I'm waiting to declare my luggage at the airport right now xD
I haven't purchased any adapters here at home, I assumed the hotel would provide it. I only have my small laptop and my phone with me as electronics go... Well.
The adapter issue slipped my mind until yesterday o.o
Like Hanazono said, Tesco should have an adapter but before you go buy it, test out your regular adapters first and see if the charge or turn your electronics on.
@Poison_Ivy
Seems like you've switched to the Bangkok Rama. I'll be checking in on the 12th.
Not sure if I dropped you a PM previously but do you want to share a room? We can get a bigger room and split the cost.
The thing is, firstly, lower cost. But more importantly, I feel, is the convenience. I'll be checking in on 12th, then checking out again on my surgery day for 4 days at the clinic, then checking in again. I don't really wanna go through this hassle. Let me know if you are keen. I'll be there from 12th to 31st.
It's convenience as well as the companion that I value more. Of course, if you prefer to have individual rooms, I'm fine too, but please let me deposit my luggage in your room for the 4 days that I'll be at the clinic?? haha ^.^
Turns out my chargers work just fine without any adapters so I am very pleased ^^
I am at the cottages right now, it's hot as hell outside. I went to the local 7/11 to get some food for tonight and for the start of the liquid diet tomorrow. I think I'm gonna cook some tomato soup, as long as I can find/read the ingredients.
I wish I knew how to make the TV english xD
Blackponyx, I am also checking out for the surgery. Sure you could store your luggage in my room, no problem ^^
Don't know about sharing a room, I like my privacy sometimes but if it's cheaper then we'll talk xD You'll have my company here anyway as long as you're at the Rama. There's also an adorable black cat wandering around the place if it's not enough xD
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 01, 2014, 06:33:17 AM
Turns out my chargers work just fine without any adapters so I am very pleased ^^
I am at the cottages right now, it's hot as hell outside. I went to the local 7/11 to get some food for tonight and for the start of the liquid diet tomorrow. I think I'm gonna cook some tomato soup, as long as I can find/read the ingredients.
I wish I knew how to make the TV english xD
Blackponyx, I am also checking out for the surgery. Sure you could store your luggage in my room, no problem ^^
Don't know about sharing a room, I like my privacy sometimes but if it's cheaper then we'll talk xD You'll have my company here anyway as long as you're at the Rama. There's also an adorable black cat wandering around the place if it's not enough xD
Hope your flight was accommodating. Yes, it is hot there so always have the a/c on but I'd say keep the a/c off when dilating, it's easier to get your muscles to relax when you are allowed to dilate.
Hope you we're able to stock up on food and drinks. But on your laxatives day make sure you keep it on a no pulp liquid and CLEAR soup diet 3 days before your surgery. Make sure to follow those instructions because Dr Chettawut warned me that my surgery will be postponed if I didn't follow.
There's cats all over there lol. Just don't touch them as I wasn't sure if they held any diseases and such.
And you can also order room service from 5pm to 11pm. I don't know if you have breakfast included in your hotel stay after the surgery but it was OK when I stayed there. The breakfast would consist of eggs, sausage, and ham with watermelon and papaya or pineapple with 3 toast and milk and juice. Sometime the breakfast they'd bring is all except the eggs, ham, and sausage and instead would be a rice soup with meats or fish. Oh and DO NOT drink or cook with the kitchen water faucet. Always use a water bottle because the water is not safe to drink but you could take a shower with it.
Well good luck Ivy! And tell Ms. Sri, Ms Som, and the other nurses I said hi. They are very kind people and will take excellent care of you :)
Thank you for this thread and sharing so much about your trip and surgery. I am hoping to go to Dr. Chettawut next year so am following your thread closely.
Quote from: jojo702 on December 01, 2014, 10:13:15 AM
Hope your flight was accommodating. Yes, it is hot there so always have the a/c on but I'd say keep the a/c off when dilating, it's easier to get your muscles to relax when you are allowed to dilate.
Hope you we're able to stock up on food and drinks. But on your laxatives day make sure you keep it on a no pulp liquid and CLEAR soup diet 3 days before your surgery. Make sure to follow those instructions because Dr Chettawut warned me that my surgery will be postponed if I didn't follow.
There's cats all over there lol. Just don't touch them as I wasn't sure if they held any diseases and such.
And you can also order room service from 5pm to 11pm. I don't know if you have breakfast included in your hotel stay after the surgery but it was OK when I stayed there. The breakfast would consist of eggs, sausage, and ham with watermelon and papaya or pineapple with 3 toast and milk and juice. Sometime the breakfast they'd bring is all except the eggs, ham, and sausage and instead would be a rice soup with meats or fish. Oh and DO NOT drink or cook with the kitchen water faucet. Always use a water bottle because the water is not safe to drink but you could take a shower with it.
Well good luck Ivy! And tell Ms. Sri, Ms Som, and the other nurses I said hi. They are very kind people and will take excellent care of you :)
I only stocked up for tonight and for the following days, since I'll be checking out for the surgery and I'm not sure what it'd do with all the food then. I got my room without breakfast.
The sink water is not ok even if I boil it?
Oh crap, the minute I saw the cat I dropped my bags and ran up to pet it xD They're just so adorable, and they rub up on you so nice ^^
Also, there are tiny little ant-like bugs walking all over my bed. They're not ants, just very tiny look-alikes. Is this normal or should I ask for a different room? Can't say I'm a fan.
Thank you so much <3
Poison_Ivy
On room sharing: it's fine. I just thought it would be a nice stay with a companion for my (less than 2 weeks) stay. Ahhh, see that's the thing, the whole check out for the clinic then check back in thing is not very nice. How would you be able to stock AFTER your surgery? You will only be allowed to move out of hotel after ~10 days!
- People generally drink from mineral water. I don't encourage boiling tap water.
-Change the room. Those could be bed bugs.
I also wanted to ask - was there any 'confirmation' given by Som/the clinic say, 3 days before the hotel? Or can I assume my stay at the hotel is guaranteed and they would expect me to check in on the day I told Som?
EDIT: Just checked - the rate is the same (1100baht for breakfast, 1060baht without) per night for either 1 or 2 persons. So effectively, costs are halved for days where we have both in the room (i.e. 12-15, 19-31) You are leaving on 29th so I can pay for the remaining nights as 1 pax. It's not a lot of savings, maybe about $200 -$300. ^.^
Thanks :)
@blackponyx
PM me your skype or something so we can talk ^^ After today I actually think I'd like some companion xD And any kinda saving is a good saving ;D You think you could help me with post-op grocery stocking? I'll be back at the Rama December 9th, I can stock up on things until you'd get here ;P
I will be paying for the hotel with my credit card, the money on it though is in PLN ( polish currency ), so I'm curious to see how much my bank will screw me over for.
So I just got back from my consulation with dr. Chet. They're all so nice it's kinda awkward o.o I will be needing a skin graft, as I thought. What surprised me though is, they're keeping the original letters so that's another problem I'll have to deal with after getting back to Poland. They said if I went to my doctors and got them to re-write the letters then send it to the clinic, they will send the original originals ( lol ) back to me. I don't think it will be a problem, it's just the time issue again. I wish the polish court wasn't so technical about everything, they even said to me when I was taking out the original letters from court documentation that I didn't need to include them in the first place, well thanks to them for the late notice :P
The dilation everyday 3 times a day for 2 years is not exactly a joyful perspetive, but what you gonna do. From what I've read on the forums everyone is kinda able to adjust their schedule to their body, so hopefully I could do 2 times a day after a while.
Hmm what else. Oh it's a good thing it's so hot here, I'm not even hungry. So liquid diet hasn't been a problem so far, it's only 11am though xD
@blackponyx
oh and about hotel booking, I got an email from them that they would send confirmation about the booking while I was already in my hotel room xD
but you'll get your hotel booking confirmation letter in the welcome envelope that you will be given by dr. Chet's driver so doon't worry ^^ they won't have you fly over here with nowhere to stay.
@Poison_Ivy
Ok, will PM you. And yes, exactly what I thought, any saving is good. $200 is not a lot but can settle for grocery, so why not?
I will be there on 12th evening, so that's the earliest I can help you with grocery stocking. And would be happy to help.
I prepared cash (Thai baht) but am ready to pay by card too (eg. if i need graft, etc etc)
If you pay by your credit card, pay it in the local currency (i.e. baht). At least for my country, you only get charged the exchange rate the bank uses (Which may be good or bad) but there is NO additional ''admin charge'' for the transaction because payment was done in 'local' currency.
For the letters, I'm not sure but my guess is - get the original psychiatrist to 're-print' the letters. I'm guessing there will be charges. For my 2 psychiatrists, I have 2 original copies for one of them, and only 1 copy for the 2nd doctor.
But in my country, it's less troublesome i guess. I only need the SRS letter to officially change my gender on ID.
Talk to you soon.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 01, 2014, 09:51:34 PM
@blackponyx
PM me your skype or something so we can talk ^^ After today I actually think I'd like some companion xD And any kinda saving is a good saving ;D You think you could help me with post-op grocery stocking? I'll be back at the Rama December 9th, I can stock up on things until you'd get here ;P
I will be paying for the hotel with my credit card, the money on it though is in PLN ( polish currency ), so I'm curious to see how much my bank will screw me over for.
So I just got back from my consulation with dr. Chet. They're all so nice it's kinda awkward o.o I will be needing a skin graft, as I thought. What surprised me though is, they're keeping the original letters so that's another problem I'll have to deal with after getting back to Poland. They said if I went to my doctors and got them to re-write the letters then send it to the clinic, they will send the original originals ( lol ) back to me. I don't think it will be a problem, it's just the time issue again. I wish the polish court wasn't so technical about everything, they even said to me when I was taking out the original letters from court documentation that I didn't need to include them in the first place, well thanks to them for the late notice :P
The dilation everyday 3 times a day for 2 years is not exactly a joyful perspetive, but what you gonna do. From what I've read on the forums everyone is kinda able to adjust their schedule to their body, so hopefully I could do 2 times a day after a while.
Hmm what else. Oh it's a good thing it's so hot here, I'm not even hungry. So liquid diet hasn't been a problem so far, it's only 11am though xD
Well my bank is kind of problematic, there is no way I can pay for the hotel in Baht, and it was kind of problematic to predict what the final charge would be, so I just figured I'd bring my card with lots of PLN on it and let the card terminal thingie do the magic.
I hope the card works though and the exchange will be succesful, otherwise I have no way of paying for the hotel maybe other than a wiretransfer with USD o.o
I have more than enough PLN on my account and they keep coming from my paypal account xD
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 01, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
I only stocked up for tonight and for the following days, since I'll be checking out for the surgery and I'm not sure what it'd do with all the food then. I got my room without breakfast.
The sink water is not ok even if I boil it?
Oh crap, the minute I saw the cat I dropped my bags and ran up to pet it xD They're just so adorable, and they rub up on you so nice ^^
Also, there are tiny little ant-like bugs walking all over my bed. They're not ants, just very tiny look-alikes. Is this normal or should I ask for a different room? Can't say I'm a fan.
Thank you so much <3
Yea, Not even boil the faucet water. Don't do it, don't risk it. My whole time there, I only took advantage of using the bottled waters. And if there are many ants there, do change rooms or have the cleaning ladys clean your room. I had ants but not all over so yea I would suggest having them change you to another room or clean up your room. I guess you can pet the cats but make sure to wash your hands lol.
Oh crap umm if you're checking out hmmm, I'd say get to know some girls around there because there are a few girls who just got their surgery or is about to and they may have been there longer and more capable of going to the market or store nearby to get you things. Because trust me, after surgery, you won't be capable of doing amuch "Far" walking or even going out of the hotel. I repeat, you will probably get hot flashes, faint, or blackout if you do. I traveled alone and I regret it so much that I didn't stock up. I got so hungry and tried so hard to resist ordering room service and tried to take off breakfast for my hotel stay but came to realize that it was necessary and that I need food to fuel my energy and give me nutrients to get better with my healing as well as getting as much rest as you can.
Oh well, I'm not one to risk things so I'll stick to bottled water. First day of liquid diet is going well so far, last time I ate was about 3am last night and today all I've had was grape juice and canned coffee. It's so hot, basically all I wanna do is drink. I'm not even craving normal food so far, on the contrary I feel rather bloated :o
Housekeeping sprayed my room for bugs and they haven't shown since.
I have some leftover snacks ( nuts mostly and some instant soups ), that I'll keep for the few days post-op. Unfortunately I have some sandwiches from back home I'll have to throw out, and some things I bought here that will have to go as well :c i went a little crazy snack shopping yesterday xD fortunately there's not a lot, i'll miss the bread and sasuage ham because it was delicious :c but i dont know what ill do with it after checking out xD
The liquid diet seriously isn't that bad ^^ I'm not even hungry, and I'm a big foodie.
You'll just need to last with liquid diet until 3 days after you get released from the hospital recovery and back into your hotel room recovery. Ask the nurses to make sure when you are allowed to eat solid foods.
Since you're checking out on the day of surgery, keep the preserved foods like snacks and such and throw away Amy food that'll expire. I would suggest if you want, adding breakfast or sometimes buying room service if you think you have extra money for it but if not then it's fine just make sure you eat something with protein and nutrients like fish and eggs.
You'll pretty much be weak the whole recovery in Thailand and possibly at home until you're able to take hormones again but make sure you book a gynecologist to find out Wether to take a lower dosage rather than the normal dosage you usually take because your body will not have any hormones whatsoever after surgery and you'll feel weak like an old lady with hot flashes, dizziness, and nausea.
Did you go in for your consultation already?
After surgery they'll give you more papers with instructions and your dilating regime. But don't follow the dilating regime exactly. It's just a guideline. You can move to next dilator when you're ready.
Quote from: jojo702 on December 02, 2014, 07:02:11 PM
You'll just need to last with liquid diet until 3 days after you get released from the hospital recovery and back into your hotel room recovery. Ask the nurses to make sure when you are allowed to eat solid foods.
Since you're checking out on the day of surgery, keep the preserved foods like snacks and such and throw away Amy food that'll expire. I would suggest if you want, adding breakfast or sometimes buying room service if you think you have extra money for it but if not then it's fine just make sure you eat something with protein and nutrients like fish and eggs.
You'll pretty much be weak the whole recovery in Thailand and possibly at home until you're able to take hormones again but make sure you book a gynecologist to find out Wether to take a lower dosage rather than the normal dosage you usually take because your body will not have any hormones whatsoever after surgery and you'll feel weak like an old lady with hot flashes, dizziness, and nausea.
Did you go in for your consultation already?
After surgery they'll give you more papers with instructions and your dilating regime. But don't follow the dilating regime exactly. It's just a guideline. You can move to next dilator when you're ready.
That's what I also figured with the food. I'm gonna get this delicious ham and bread again post-op, it was heaven. I also saw Domino's Pizza while on my way to Dr. Chet's so I'll investigate further.
I'll be seeing my sexologist/gyno back in Poland, although he is in another city so I will get a local one as well for emergencies.
I had my consultation already, they also gave me a menu of what I'll be given to eat during recovery. Not too bad.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 02, 2014, 09:28:58 PM
I had my consultation already, they also gave me a menu of what I'll be given to eat during recovery. Not too bad.
wow that is lucky :o I had no such thing when I had my surgery, lol I did however have several thing that were a cocern so I guess they had their reasons lol
Well, my surgery is in a few hours from now. I don't know how I feel at this point, I've just been making it work as I go so far. I'm afraid of the pain and the difficulty afterwards. There's still so much I have to do regarding the whole transition thing, after I go back home. I hope I'm mobile enough by then to handle it. It's not the end for me :/ I know I've probably had it easier than most of you, and I was extremely lucky in this whole misfortune anyway, and I've got a shot at a fully normal/stealthy life. I'm greatful for that. But it's not the end yet :/
I wish I didn't have to do this, but that's not how life turned out for me.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 04, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
Well, my surgery is in a few hours from now. I don't know how I feel at this point, I've just been making it work as I go so far. I'm afraid of the pain and the difficulty afterwards. There's still so much I have to do regarding the whole transition thing, after I go back home. I hope I'm mobile enough by then to handle it. It's not the end for me :/ I know I've probably had it easier than most of you, and I was extremely lucky in this whole misfortune anyway, and I've got a shot at a fully normal/stealthy life. I'm greatful for that. But it's not the end yet :/
I wish I didn't have to do this, but that's not how life turned out for me.
All the best luck and recovery! Don't worry, I'm watching your thread very closely. I've gone through the same you're going through as well as the having it lucky part. For the next 2 months after this surgery, you are still gonna be weak but then again maybe you'll recover faster than I did. Don't exert yourself and be careful. Take care of your self and limit yourself. When you get the chance to reply, tell us how you're doing. We're here to also help aside from the major people (nurses, surgeon) to help you.
Hi! So the surgery went fine, there's only slight pain and discomfort down there, I also threw up a few times from the anaesthesia. But honestly I feel fine, aside for the slight pain. I wish I could have pizza, I already told Som I need a big fat juicy pizza from Domino's when I'm back xD
At first I was throwing up and I was dizzy, couldnt even see the hour on the clock in front of me. And everthing is itching.
Glad everything went fine, I remember that puking stuff :P mine I thing was more a situation of pain that coming out of anesthesia, maybe it was both idk at this point, yea there is going to be some itchiness try to avoid wanting to itch you know where ;)
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 05, 2014, 06:49:02 PM
Hi! So the surgery went fine, there's only slight pain and discomfort down there, I also threw up a few times from the anaesthesia. But honestly I feel fine, aside for the slight pain. I wish I could have pizza, I already told Som I need a big fat juicy pizza from Domino's when I'm back xD
At first I was throwing up and I was dizzy, couldnt even see the hour on the clock in front of me. And everthing is itching.
Congrats!!! The throwing up is normal as well as the discomfort and itching. DO NOT itch! I did that and now there's a dark scratch mark there. I gated the first hour out of surgery, everything was spinning and I couldn't see straight so I slept throughout the whole time.
For the next 5 days you'll be eating clear liquid doups, taking more pills, throwing up, sleeping, and getting taken care by the great nurses.
Once on the 5th day when they send you back to the hotel, since you don't have any estrogen in your blood which I suggest you take ONLY after you get back home. You'll feel weak, immobile, and dizzy but make sure you take antibiotics. It's very important so you don't get a uti infection or any infection which is the worst feeling ever.
Hi there, young Polish lady!
Congratulations on seeing it through and my very best wishes for a trouble free and speedy recovery. A Chett girl myself, like Jojo, I strongly advise that you go with the flow and adhere to the instructions you are given re. medication, dilations and giving yourself time to recover. I (mostly) did and,even if we are all different, I can attest to the fact that I had zero problems through my recovery. I was operated on the 20th August and haven't seen a doctor since getting home...
One of the exceptions I would see to following the instructions regard HRT. Because of hot flashes and generally feeling so crap I couldn't sleep, I went back to a low dose of E (only) just a little over a week after my surgery. I felt much better after that and the end of my stay in Bangkok was a breeze, feeling more like a holiday than anything else.
The other exception regards the dilation regime. For the first few weeks I would definitely advise that you do as instructed but, as you heal, you will find your own way. For example, I quickly switched to 2 dilations a day as 3 times was making it very difficult to get anything done. I also added bigger dilators to the one's provider by Chett, the Soul Source N° 3 & 4 dilators which are what I am using now. These add an extra 6mm in diameter compared to Chett's biggest dilator which is still pretty small.
You will have plenty of time for all of that over the weeks ahead but since I'm no longer here very much, I thought it was best to get it out now.
Again, wishing you all the best!
Donna
I feel good, thank you for the messages ^^
The last time I threw up was at breakfast. I couldn't sleep through the night while dizzy from anaesthesia. I'm itching all over my body xD The nurse just left with my last medication for today. I want food so bad, I turned on the cooking channel just to get me off xD
I'm going back to the Rama today, I feel ok, I just get randomly sleepy sometimes, I'm guessing due to the anaesthesia xD There's no pain down there at all at this point, but all I can think about is food. When they remove the packing, I'll have a nurse run down to the KFC to get me a huge bucket of fried chicken and some sandwiches. I even dream about food when I sleep xD Everyone is very nice, especially Noa, the nurse, I believe that's her name. She made me tea cause I said I hated clear water :3 And I do, clear water makes me wanna throw up, hate the taste of it. I'm getting a bit tired of not being able to understand most of what people say to me, everyone has such a thick asian accent. I just wanna be back home in Poland recovering, but it's still 20 more days Q.Q
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 08, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
I'm going back to the Rama today, I feel ok, I just get randomly sleepy sometimes, I'm guessing due to the anaesthesia xD There's no pain down there at all at this point, but all I can think about is food. When they remove the packing, I'll have a nurse run down to the KFC to get me a huge bucket of fried chicken and some sandwiches. I even dream about food when I sleep xD Everyone is very nice, especially Noa, the nurse, I believe that's her name. She made me tea cause I said I hated clear water :3 And I do, clear water makes me wanna throw up, hate the taste of it. I'm getting a bit tired of not being able to understand most of what people say to me, everyone has such a thick asian accent. I just wanna be back home in Poland recovering, but it's still 20 more days Q.Q
Yea same thing I was going through as well. Not to mention the post op depression you'll most likely be going through within those 20 days, the itchiness all over your stomach due to anesthesia, dilating 3 times a day, and taking more meds.
Please take good care of yourself. Since you don't have any estrogen in your body which you can't take until you get home, you'll pretty much be on menopausal symptoms for those 20 days until the nurses or your physician says it's OK to take them. The reason you can take them now is because of blood clot which has a risk of heart attack or deep vein thrombosis. Once you take hrt again, after a few weeks of taking it at home, you'll start to feel better and heal alot faster.
As for the remaining days you'll experience hot flashes, dizziness, eeakness, fatigue, and depression due to all the healing your body is going through, blood vessels and nerves reconnecting, medication symptoms, and low estrogen symptoms. But don't worry, that is why it's important to eat. You need the nutrients and proteins.
Ask Ms Som and the other nurse that comes with her to check on you daily as much questions you can. And once you do get home, you're pretty much on your own so book a visit with a gynecologist who has experience with transgenders who had srs as well as see a physician so he can tell you how much dosage of hrt you need to take now that you had surgery.
Hope everything is going well for you! Btw, when vaginal packing is removed and when ms Som first dilate you to determine your depth, it'll feel weird and might feel like it hurts but don't worry its the process. Regardless if dilating hurts, it's necessary to do it. Just don't force it in you...
As good as I felt at the clinic, back at the hotel I feel as if I'm about to die. It was so hot when they left me and I kept throwing up. I'm deathly scared of dilations, they swabbed the vagina earlier and it felt painful :/ So the dilator must feel awful. I took a look at myself in the mirror and I look like the grim repear, I lost so much weight and I was skinny to begin with. And everyone keeps talking to me with this asian accent that I just don't understand... I wish I could go home ;(
Quote from: Hanazono on December 09, 2014, 02:29:29 AM
you'll be ok I hope! is blackponyx going to link up with you?
Yep, she'll be here in 3 days.
After the initial shock of getting there, I feel much better. I'm quite mobile and can walk around the room just fine, I wouldn't go outside the room of course. I'm taking my meds, eating peanuts and drinking pepsi :P Also when I was on youtube, the thai pizza hut website popped up so I already made a list of all their pizzas I'll be ordering as soon as this god damn packing is out of me. Also the local KFC delivers ;D
As for the pikachu itself, it looks quite good. I didn't notice any significant scarring, it's very swollen of course and I can see both labias, but from what I can tell, once the swelling goes down it will all settle nicely. It's gonna be as pretty as a pikachu can get xD
I'm going to be honest with you so you don't get a scared crazy shock. The first time she dilates you can be insanely painful. I had Norco's and it was still intense, now it all got better so hang in there. also some girls the effects of being of hormones can be to radical, and they will actually allow you to use patch's but this is only on severe cases. ::) guess how I know that lol :laugh:
I've just been crying for hours at this point... I knew it was gonna be painful and I thought I was prepared but once you're actually going through it, it's horrible... I wanna go home so much :( I still have to spend 19 more painful days here and the thought alone is killing me. What did I get myself into. My hair is greasy and it's been falling out in insane amounts. I know I haven't washed it in 5 days, but I brushed it out today and it was so so much hair... and everytime I touch it there's like at least 3 hairs left in my hand. I'm gonna beg the nurses to allow me to take some E again, I can't get out of this mess bald :/ My hair has been thinning out since this fall for different reasons, and I just got it under control. I feel like I'm going insane, like I'm in a nightmare :/ And back at the clinic I thought I was gonna be fine, and then when I first got back to the Rama I was very mobile and stuff... but now... crap :/ This thread has kind of turned into my diary, but so be it. Maybe my decision to do this was premature, but it's too late now. I'm just gonna sit here and cry in a pile of my own hair.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 09, 2014, 12:10:48 AM
As good as I felt at the clinic, back at the hotel I feel as if I'm about to die. It was so hot when they left me and I kept throwing up. I'm deathly scared of dilations, they swabbed the vagina earlier and it felt painful :/ So the dilator must feel awful. I took a look at myself in the mirror and I look like the grim repear, I lost so much weight and I was skinny to begin with. And everyone keeps talking to me with this asian accent that I just don't understand... I wish I could go home ;(
Lol it'll be fine sweetie! Those are normal. It's the same thing I went through and I felt and looked horrible. They will come check on you daily to check your vagina with swabs to make sure there's no infections or anything bad down there but probably on the 2nd or 3rd week, the swabbing will be not as painful. But it is sensitive down there so you will feel sensation after it gradually heals.
I too have lost a lot of weight after surgery. As for the dilation, the day they take out your vaginal packing and after Ms Som determines your depth, you will need to dilate the day after for the first time and Ms Som will be there to watch you just in case.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 09, 2014, 08:52:48 AM
I've just been crying for hours at this point... I knew it was gonna be painful and I thought I was prepared but once you're actually going through it, it's horrible... I wanna go home so much :( I still have to spend 19 more painful days here and the thought alone is killing me. What did I get myself into. My hair is greasy and it's been falling out in insane amounts. I know I haven't washed it in 5 days, but I brushed it out today and it was so so much hair... and everytime I touch it there's like at least 3 hairs left in my hand. I'm gonna beg the nurses to allow me to take some E again, I can't get out of this mess bald :/ My hair has been thinning out since this fall for different reasons, and I just got it under control. I feel like I'm going insane, like I'm in a nightmare :/ And back at the clinic I thought I was gonna be fine, and then when I first got back to the Rama I was very mobile and stuff... but now... crap :/ This thread has kind of turned into my diary, but so be it. Maybe my decision to do this was premature, but it's too late now. I'm just gonna sit here and cry in a pile of my own hair.
It's OK sweetie. All that is Normal, I had a lot of hair fall out but it was temporary till I got back home. What you're going through now is post op depression. And like Calico said, in severe cases as in feeling extremely dizzy, fainting and extreme menopausal symptoms, I think they would allow estrogen medication.
I too was at the rama, crying and telling myself why and regret started coming onto me. Then I read about the post op depression and also all the things I was feeling that were considered a part of the process after srs.
You'll make it! You've finally got a major goal accomplished and once it's all healed, you'll be glad you did it! I'm with you and other girls here who is not too far apart on their srs! We're here for you and some of us in person. :)
Quote from: jojo702 on December 09, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
It's OK sweetie. All that is Normal, I had a lot of hair fall out but it was temporary till I got back home. What you're going through now is post op depression. And like Calico said, in severe cases as in feeling extremely dizzy, fainting and extreme menopausal symptoms, I think they would allow estrogen medication.
I too was at the rama, crying and telling myself why and regret started coming onto me. Then I read about the post op depression and also all the things I was feeling that were considered a part of the process after srs.
You'll make it! You've finally got a major goal accomplished and once it's all healed, you'll be glad you did it! I'm with you and other girls here who is not too far apart on their srs! We're here for you and some of us in person. :)
Thank you <3 In the back of my head I know all that, and I knew all the consequences prior to coming here, and I thought I was ready, but when it hits, it HITS. And I'm still a kid basically, even though I've been through some ->-bleeped-<- in my life already ( not trans related, that's the least of my issues so to speak ), but yeah. I'll still try to beg to be allowed to take a low dosage of the E pills I brought with me, cause this hair issue... Post op depression I can handle, but post hair loss depression I don't think so ;o Like I said, I only got my hair falling out under control prior to coming here, so there's not much left to fall out.
It's night time there so, tomorrow. Show Ms Som the pills and ask her if it's OK to take it. I'm not too sure if they'll allow it since you just got out of surgery 5 days ago. They might not let you because they're afraid of dvt or side effects of the E and you know, like most nurses who's under your care, if something bad was to happen to you because they allowed you, then they'd be responsible.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 09, 2014, 08:52:48 AM
I've just been crying for hours at this point... I knew it was gonna be painful and I thought I was prepared but once you're actually going through it, it's horrible... I wanna go home so much :( I still have to spend 19 more painful days here and the thought alone is killing me. What did I get myself into. My hair is greasy and it's been falling out in insane amounts. I know I haven't washed it in 5 days, but I brushed it out today and it was so so much hair... and everytime I touch it there's like at least 3 hairs left in my hand. I'm gonna beg the nurses to allow me to take some E again, I can't get out of this mess bald :/ My hair has been thinning out since this fall for different reasons, and I just got it under control. I feel like I'm going insane, like I'm in a nightmare :/ And back at the clinic I thought I was gonna be fine, and then when I first got back to the Rama I was very mobile and stuff... but now... crap :/ This thread has kind of turned into my diary, but so be it. Maybe my decision to do this was premature, but it's too late now. I'm just gonna sit here and cry in a pile of my own hair.
Oh sweetie it's OK, I know how you feel I was there, not at the Rama, but I was there. And my god Yea the hair, you have to remind d yourself all this is hormonal, I know it's freaking you out, when I went, I went alone. Ask them to allow you to get a patch, don't and I stress do not take the pills,get the patch it won't hurt you like pills can, also as soon as the catheter comes out you can shower and my god it will do amazing things for your stress level, I promise :) I wish I could be there to hold your hand and give you a hug because your post reminded me so much like my self.
If you haven't read this https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,137331.msg1105929.html#msg1105929
Please do it was a day by day blog of my trip, and towards the end you should see some similarities, now I didn't have to momentary regret as it was something I had to do to save my life but the first day dilation, the greasy hair, Yea that sucked/sucks. The dilation only really sucks for the first week but then it gets better. Did you start on dilator #1?, I was so swollen Sri (the nurse) had to make a makeshift #0 out of a candlestick. Just image what went through my mind, I was so scared when I couldn't get the #1 in, I felt I Had failed and I would never be able to date, but it all got better in fact I bought bigger dilators! Anyway please read my posts I linked, if you want to talk to me sweetie, I'm here and you can pm me for my email if you want. It WILL BE OK!! Remember that! Hugs!!
Oh Yea if you can't pm me just ask me to pm you I think you can receive messages at least.
Oh and Jojo when did miss Som start going and visiting, I thought she just handled the office work, unless you are referring to Sri.
Relax.
I know it is easy to write - and hard to do. But the more you can relax the easier the next few days will be. And once you get into the swing of things then life will be easier.
I used Calico's guide when i did my surgery in july (my write up is also in the post op section somewhere). The discomfort when getting swabbed inside was ya-ouch but the dilation was easier. Just remember the most important point:
Your speed of recovery is not a competition. There is no competition but it is easy to feel an unnecessary pressure.
Your dilation is easier if you relax and think of something else...
Srs recovery is a marathon and not a sprint. Take your own time.
Trust Ms Sri . She has a lot of experience. And yes she will push you a little, not to be unkind, but like a mother, trying to get you independant.
Hormone patches should be discussed if you are having anxiety issues. Make sure you get a lot of sleep, and just allow your body to recover. The removal of the catheter is going to be uncomfortable, but once it is over, and you relax and pee for one or two times, you will feel so much better. And actually i was allowed to shower with the catheter after packing was removed, so just ask.
Finally, lots of us have been through this. We dont try to patronize, but really, relax. It will all be right and the more you can relax, the easier and quicker you will be on your feet again.
Good luck
Quote from: calico on December 09, 2014, 12:11:29 PM
Oh Yea if you can't pm me just ask me to pm you I think you can receive messages at least.
Oh and Jojo when did miss Som start going and visiting, I thought she just handled the office work, unless you are referring to Sri.
I'm soo sorry. My mistake, I meant MS. SRI! LOL. Omg I feel so dumb now hahaha. Thank you for correcting me lol
Quote from: jojo702 on December 09, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I'm soo sorry. My mistake, I meant MS. SRI! LOL. Omg I feel so dumb now hahaha. Thank you for correcting me lol
oh its no biggy, in the whirlwind of things its so easy to forget names. I remember all of them because they were so nice to me, and because I had came there with pre-existing medical problems that may of caused complications, we all had to go over many things. one thing I was so jealous of a lot of girls was the epidermal block, as I didn't get that :icon_yikes: on fear of the possible complications :icon_sadblinky: and omg the pain when I finally came around, :icon_tears: they actually kept me sedated for a little bit after surgery and the anesthesiologist actually mad a couple pain cocktails which relived a lot of it. I know a lot of girls puke right after surgery but I puked because of the unbearable pain. I never ever want to feel that pain again...well actually I did again this year unfortunately :icon_frown: :icon_tears:
oh and Ivy :icon_bunch: hang in there babe, you got a whole bunch of sisters that are here for you, trust me on this!
Thanks everyone... This depression is really pissing me off. I feel as if nobody from my life even cares I'm here, my family doesn't contact me, my friends rarely do and the guy I'm interested in is ignoring me. I asked Sri about the estrogen patch but she said it's normal, and it'd be bad for me, but I'll keep asking. Today the swelling went down a bit and the area looks somewhat ok and presentable, and I didn't even feel the swabbing this time.
My life is a mess, I'm doing everything at once, afraid of wasting anymore time. I just wanna be "normal". And have a happy life and positive experiences for a change.
update: calico, I read your thread and the future seems rather optimistic... but I just want to be out of here and back home so bad. My first dilation is tomorrow and well... the swabbing didn't sting so maybe it won't hurt so bad? I just want it over with, the waiting is the worst part of it all. You mentioning dilating in the shower gave me hope, since I'm going full stealth after this and such scenario is rather likely for me :P
If you dilate in the shower be sure to be fairly healed up, don't want you hurting yourself ;), also this really isn't post op depression, i had it roughly 2 months after surgery and tried to take my life... Lost a bunch of friends over that to. What you have is bad hormones and if those were normal you'd most likely not be stressing so bad. When Sri comes tomorrow remember to breathe that's the must important thing also tell her the candlestick girl said hello. Lol
Hi
I have no wish to get into a debate here but I simply do not understand the reasoning being put forward by certain people here regarding starting on hormones again post surgery. If I have followed correctly, if you complain enough about depression the medical staff is OK with you starting again but otherwise is not?
Personally, I avoided the argument, reasoning that I had been already been though two major surgeries (FFS1 & FFS2), each lasting over 7 hours without stopping hormones at all with no consequences. Therefore, as I was feeling really sxxt a week post surgery,(hot flashes, feeling very oppressed, terrible sleep...) I started again on one third of my pre-surgery level (subligual, not patches) . I did not ask anyone's permission to do this, I just did it.
If I had been completely immobile I would certainly have hesitated more but to the extent that one is mobile, I would see no significant risk of DVT on low dose of E. As many people have asked before, if normal female levels of E were that big a problem how could anyone operate on cis-females?
In my own case, I immediately felt much better after I started the hormones again and, as those we read my account of my experience with Chett have seen, I actually had a very enjoyable stay in Bangkok post surgery. The breast massages I had to do were actually far more of a nuisance than dilating which was no problem at all. I was already on dilator N° 3 after just a little over 2 weeks.
The fact of the matter is we all have our own experience which involves a certain amount of adaptation. Therefore it is not because any of us had such and such a problem that the next person will have the same issues. It is also not because so and so had no problems that the next person will have no problems. Given this, other than very general and obvious stuff like taking medication and doing your dilations, I believe we should tread very carefully when it comes to saying either you should never do this or that or that you should always do this or that.
I think it is probably more helpful to say, for this problem, this is what I did and these were the results I got. Afterwards, the recipient can make up their own mind on the best course of action.
Wishing you all the best Poison Ivy and don't worry, if you have no major complications, these few weeks will be behind you much faster than you imagine now.
Donna
Today I felt a bit better. I haven't cried since this morning and then slept for the rest of the day.
An unpleasant surprise when I went into the bathroom in the morning was my first ever encounter with a cockroach. It was in the shower, and I just started screaming and I ran ( yes I ran ) to grab a shoe to kill it xD I had never seen a cockroach prior to that so it was traumatizing :o
I added breakfast service to my room and the breakfast they gave me was so huge, I've been eating it all day. And I could still make sandwiches. Well worth the price, I might not even need to get too much groceries with this breakfast, since I'll be ordering KFC and pizzas, and refrigerating the breakfast xD Which is what I'm gonna do tomorrow when they remove the packing, the minute the nurses leave I'm getting a pizza.
Hmm what else... well my first dilation is tomorrow and I don't know what to expect. From what I've read, the swabbing and the removing of the tubes post op was supposed to be super painful. And yeah, the first swabbing did sting, but today I didn't even feel it. And when they were removing the tubes, it didn't hurt so much ,it just burnt a little once they were out. So how is it gonna feel? I'll report back.
I don't think the nurses like me so much. I don't know if I don't come across as friendly, but when they're here I'm definitely down to the point. I'm just kinda awkward, I don't know what to say and what questions to ask. I just stay quiet and do as I'm told. I also got a little frustrated back at the clinic, when Sri was telling me 'relax because breathing', so I just started taking deep breaths, but what she meant was 'bleeding', so I corrected her and I think she got upset about it.
So as I was writing this post, a lizard fell from the AC machine on to the floor. Seriously? How am I supposed to have a worry-free recovery with cockroaches and lizards. I screamed again,got up immediately, started pressing random numbers on the phone and somehow called the lobby and demanded a different room. So while I'm supposed to be resting and regaining energy, I have to run around killing cockroaches and switching rooms. I'm in the room nextdoor now, but I'm extremely fed up and paranoid, every noise makes me jumpy.
When I called the lobby I quickly put on some underwear without a pad so the staff wouldn't see my private parts, and when I took it off there was a bit of blood.
Am I prissy and demanding for not wanting to have insects and reptiles in my room when I'm recovering from a major surgery?
I'm afraid all this is gonna disturb my recovery, I'm in bed most o the time and I only get up to get something from the fridge or empthy the cathater, but today there were 2 of those extra curricular episodes that were not planned, nor were they peaceful and stress-free for me. I WANT TO BE HOME. Lizard and cockroach free.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 10, 2014, 09:09:02 AM
Am I prissy and demanding for not wanting to have insects and reptiles in my room when I'm recovering from a major surgery?
I'm afraid all this is gonna disturb my recovery, I'm in bed most o the time and I only get up to get something from the fridge or empthy the cathater, but today there were 2 of those extra curricular episodes that were not planned, nor were they peaceful and stress-free for me. I WANT TO BE HOME. Lizard and cockroach free.
Hi there!
If you want a straight answer, yes, I'd say you are being a bit prissy. Unless the room was absolutely infested, what possible impact do you think a coachroach or a lizard is going to have on your recovery?
I'm assuming you are in one of the bungalows in the Rama with direct access to the garden which naturally includes a certain amount of "wild life" :). If this is the case, how can you conceivably imagine that no insects would ever get into your room? However, if that kind of thing really does bother you, you should maybe consider moving to a room in the main building of the hotel. That's about the only way you can be sure of avoiding such "extra curricular" episodes.
Another little piece of advice, like most East Asians, the Thais are very warm, polite and non-confrontational. If you are too direct they will quickly take offense. That does not mean you can't ask questions etc.. I just suggest you pay particular attention to do it in a manner which is friendly and respectful.
Most of us thoroughly enjoyed our stay in Bangkok and I would go so far as to say I loved it. It just requires a little adapting and unless something is going really bad, why let yourself get upset so quickly?
Relax Poison Ivy (interesting pseudo BTW :)), barring accidents, within a week you should already be able to start enjoying life again.
Hugs
Donna
Haha well, it just came as a shock since I had no such problems while staying here prior to the surgery. Well there were those little ant bugs, but they didn't bother me that much and the housekeeping sprayed my room the next morning and everything was fine.
My first ever cockroach was not a pleasant experience, but I killed it and asked housekeeping to spray the bathroom.
But the lizard just threw me off xD I had to switch rooms, coming from Poland, we don't get a lot of those in the house, and I just wouldn't be able to sleep knowing it's still here. So I flipped out. I'd expect to see such things outside my room, not inside. It's a hotel with a staff afterall, not a safari kind of thing :3
What I meant by the disturbing of my recovery was all this moving I did today, and the reflexes I have in an event when something like this happens. I get up immediately, or move away, or jump. It's not something I have control over, it's just my reflexes. And I'm worried if it will affect the healing of the area... Oh well.
On the plus side, my emotions today seem to have taken a back seat xD
Oh and also, since I forgot to ask Ms. Sri this morning ( I was kinda emotional then and only mentioned the estrogen ).
The outer part of my left tigh is still feeling numb, as if there was nerve damage or something. Is this only temporary or should I be concerned?
I asked one of the nurses back at the clinic, but she just said that the surgery was only around the genital area and the tighs have nothing to do here, and that I should just exercise the muscles. So I did, and still am exercising, but this feeling isn't going away.
So the nurses just left, when they came in I was prepared for excruciating pain, but surprisingly it only hurt towards the end when she was removing the packing. I have 6 inches. It didn't really hurt when Ms. Sri was inserting the dilator, so I said "This doesn't hurt as much as I thought it would", but she said it will hurt tomorrow, so I was like oh great. And I felt kinda dumb, because I assumed the cavity was located behind the labias, and it's actually kinda under them? To my surprise xD Don't judge, I'm gonna go study my anatomy now.
But I can eat normal foods again and take a shower ;3
Quote from: Hanazono on December 10, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I'm thinking to wash my hair by wearing a poncho then stopping the water runoff with a towel beneath my neck...I cannot even stand not washing (shampooing) my hair at least once a day.
I personally can go days without washing my hair, but it never got greasy like it did now. I can go 5 days without washing it, and it looks good, but for some mysterious reason when I was post op at the clinic it was already greasy. Hormones? Possibly ;o
Oh and I asked about my thigh and Ms. Sri said it was normal and I shouldn't worry so I won't ;3
Well I'm just gonna keep posting updates, maybe it will help someone else who's also young, stupid and unprepared and scared of all this c:
I am also greatful for all your posts that are helping me through this :D much love <3
I'm not emotional/crying anymore, now I'm kinda angry? When I got off hormones back in Poland I warned my friends "If I act crazy keep in mind it's because of hormones", but oddly enough I didn't have any significant mood changes until I was post-op, the day I got back to the hotel. Doctors have also warned me before starting HRT "your personality might change", but honestly I don't think it did. I went through some changes of course, and self-realizations, but that's natural for everyone as we grow up and grow in general as people, I think.
Well anyway, since I'm angry I kinda went off on my family for not calling/texting/messaging or trying to get in contact with me generally. I know we're not exactly as close as we could be, but I would think under such circumstances, they should at least ask how I am from time to time?
As for technical/medical aspects. I am now 6 days post-op. Pain-wise, there's no pain. Just slight tingling sensations and discomfort from the cathater, which is coming out tomorrow. I am mobile, at least around the room, I am not going to take chances and try taking walks around the hotel for a while. Today I got a big headache, but I slept and it went away. I don't feel dizzy or noxious, just randomly sleepy sometimes.
Right now I'm on the toilet trying to #2 for the first time since the operation, but I'm kinda scared and can't relax, because I'm afraid I'll pop stiches or something. But I feel it's time and it's in there, I'm just taking my time. Then I'll take a shower c:
Ms. Sri said that I will feel pain tomorrow during dilation, as I posted before there was barely any pain during today's procedures. So I'll post an update when that happens. But me and her are cool now xD
Regarding the cockroaches and lizards, we get that and more Australia and its hard to keep them out in some places. I really don't like cockroaches but its more that I find them disgusting. Lizards are kind of cute. Spiders though, they freak me out, even the harmless ones. Its not rational or something easily controlled, especially when they surprise you. A phobia is not being prissy.
How is your recovery going?
a lot has happened since my last post, i was writing a long update but my laptop ate it and deleted it and i dont feel like writing it again xD but basically i felt super bad, fever, shivers, cold sweats and headaches, i was begging to go back to the clinic, then having massive diarrhea for over 3 days, then getting constipated and pushing so hard my downstairs got all swollen and burning and it hurts until now they had to double my meds. and they allowed me to go back on estrogen.
as of now i feel better, but my vagina still hurts and burns from being constipated and trying to pass stool xD
also i cant sleep here very well, dunno if its the place or the surgery, but i keep falling asleep, then waking up and i have such bad nightmares and i always wake up dripping in sweat.
I am a lot better now, I've been walking all over the place today doing laundry and I'll try going to the 7/11 tomorrow maybe if I feel like it. I can walk normally by now, not carefully like a duck or anything. The only discomfort now is the fact that the area around the stiches near 'the hole' is hmm... right around the stiches it's flesh-coloured, but a really unhealthy shade, when I look at it steamed flesh comes to mind, and then the rest of the area around it is red and still burns a bit. And the trouble sleeping.
It looked a lot better before I tried to poop xD And I did by now. So for anyone reading, don't make my mistake and try to push it out xD
I think that sums it up ;3
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 18, 2014, 08:33:50 AM
a lot has happened since my last post, i was writing a long update but my laptop ate it and deleted it and i dont feel like writing it again xD but basically i felt super bad, fever, shivers, cold sweats and headaches... , . and they allowed me to go back on estrogen.
also i cant sleep here very well, dunno if its the place or the surgery, but i keep falling asleep, then waking up and i have such bad nightmares and i always wake up dripping in sweat.
Hi Poison Ivy,
Many of the symptoms you describe match those I had before I started on hormones again. My first couple of nights after I got back from the clinic were among the worst I ever had in terms of sleeplessness, shivers, sweating etc.. It improved very rapidly after I restarted, same dose as you as it happens...
Glad to hear things seem to be going reasonably well otherwise.
Take care!
Donna
Wow a lot has happened ivy! I think I had a similar experience but it happened after the catheter was removed maybe a day or 2 after. I was so cold and shivering, had the ac off and covered in blankets, it was 108 degrees there at the time, and Sri told me to get some patches, which when I did it cleared it up. (Btw you may want to edit the amount out of your post) ;) I didn't have to deal with the bathroom issues but that was prob because of some of my meds I brought. Something you may want to try is lay a towel on the bed and just go commando and leave the undies off so you can air. Sometimes the humidity can be a bit much there and we'll being to moist down there isn't good for healing.
Hang in there girl!!
Sri told me to sleep in underwear xD Although 2 days ago she told me it's better to not wear underwear. So everyday she says something different, I've been in underwear all day and I'm laying in bed now in underwear also. Well back home pre-op I also always wore underwear, I'm just not a naked person xD
I'm not a naked sleeper so I understand but , it can be helpful for the wound and also its keep pressure off already swollen bits. try at least for a couple hours you may be surprised. when I had to be in the hospital recently I was completely naked except for the gown so it made me feel weird so I'm totally with you on the feeling.
Following this thread with great interest. My SRS is down the road a wee bit and will likely be with Bowers but every account of the experience garners new nuggets of wisdom. :)
I've been sleeping with no underwear for the most part, just the past 2 nights I wore it since Sri told me it would be better. Everything seems to be healing well, I asked about the area around the stiches, and that's because when I lay down, my knees are too high up instead of just flat down, but it's no call for concern.
Around 2PM I went to the 7/11 and bought 3 full bags of groceries, no light-headed feeling or anything, it felt as if I was pre-op, except for the obvious feeling downstairs that I'm not ( not pain but... hmm well. I can feel it's still healing ;3 )
I still don't sleep in my underwear at home. Its been a month and a half but now I'm having terrible anxiety attacks. Been to thee hospital twice. One for uti and the other for anxiety.
After I started taking estrogen I've been feeling better. I take estrogen injections once a week and sometimes I get scares a blood cot might happen and I get a stroke.
Quote from: jojo702 on December 20, 2014, 01:59:56 AM
I still don't sleep in my underwear at home. Its been a month and a half but now I'm having terrible anxiety attacks. Been to thee hospital twice. One for uti and the other for anxiety.
After I started taking estrogen I've been feeling better. I take estrogen injections once a week and sometimes I get scares a blood cot might happen and I get a stroke.
I'm sure nothing like that is going to happen ;3 I'm afraid of getting a uti though when I'm at home, there are no gynos that are familiar with post-op puss treatment in my town as far as I know. My sexologist is also a gyno but he's in a town 2 hours away, so it's a day trip just to see him. And he's only there on mondays :c So if I get a UTI on a thursday... xD
I wonder if I can just book a random gyno and put them on the spot. A uti is a uti, right, nothing any gyno can't handle?
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 20, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
I'm sure nothing like that is going to happen ;3 I'm afraid of getting a uti though when I'm at home, there are no gynos that are familiar with post-op puss treatment in my town as far as I know. My sexologist is also a gyno but he's in a town 2 hours away, so it's a day trip just to see him. And he's only there on mondays :c So if I get a UTI on a thursday... xD
I wonder if I can just book a random gyno and put them on the spot. A uti is a uti, right, nothing any gyno can't handle?
A uti can be prevented if you keep up with hygiene and make sure to not get anything dirty from the anus to the vagina cause you can catch bacteria that could cause uti that way too. Getting uti is common and we will all get it someway.
As far as anxiety, it's also something we'll have to deal with for a long time.
I had a few hospital visits after I got back home from thailand. First was my hormonal imbalance causing menopausal symptoms but I started taking estrogen again and felt better.
The next two visits was for uti and bronchitis. I never had these before and rarely gone to the hospitals but these things could get serious.
If uti reaches your kidneys, it could cause permanent damage or severe infection which could have life threatening results.
If bronchitis does not get treated, it could turn into pneumonia.
Other issues would be granulation in or out of the vagina, abcess, weakened immune system, prolapse, anxiety, fatigue. All these and maybe more are list of what we'll deal with for a long time. We can be our normal selves after three months but not with these health problems physical and psychological after we had srs.
Not trying to scare you but this is what cis women have to go through as well.
I finally did my research and asked gynecologist, doctors, endocrinologist, and they all said it's what we'll have to endure in.
I am post-op day 6 now. 2 nights out of the recovery clinic.
I'm not sure if my recovery is fast/slow/average but i do know everyone's rate is different.
My current issues are feeling hot and cold all the time at night and it's making it hard to sleep. As of last night, i also feel more intense 'zapping' pains but i don't wanna rely on the stronger painkiller (Tramadol) cos it causes nauseousness too. I take paracetemol if necessary.
I will probably look through some old threads now to see how people were like at post-op day 6.....but any help/advice would be helpful... :)
Lovely, you did kind of scare me xD I can't afford to go to a hospital well because I don't have health insurance o.o I always go to private doctors, which are a better choice in Poland anyway. I'll just have to see and deal with the issues as they come.
But as of now my recovery is going very well, I've been walking around running errands, going to the store, doing laundry. The doctor will most likely have to fix some loose stiches though, in the lower area. But I don't feel any anxiety, I'm not emotional anymore, like Donna said now it feels more like a vacation. A very boring one since there's nothing to do, but near the end of my time here I'll go to the mall for some Christmas shopping :3
I only dilate 2 times a day though, but double the time of dilation each time. And it always goes in fine, to the same depth. Mostly becuse, well, I'm lazy, it's uncomfortable and since I started #2 it's a little painful too, when the dilators are going in. Once their in though, keeping them there is a much lesser problem, so I hold them in there. I've been doing that for a couple days now.
Quote from: blackponyx on December 20, 2014, 10:09:58 PM
My current issues are feeling hot and cold all the time at night and it's making it hard to sleep. As of last night, i also feel more intense 'zapping' pains but i don't wanna rely on the stronger painkiller (Tramadol) cos it causes nauseousness too. I take paracetemol if necessary.
I will probably look through some old threads now to see how people were like at post-op day 6.....but any help/advice would be helpful... :)
Hi and congratulations Blackponyx
Just by looking at this thread, I think you will find answers to the hot and cold sensations at night. Most likely it is down to your lack of hormones. In my own case, it was just after I got back from the clinic that I started to have such symptoms and got over them easily by starting up on hormones again, at a very low dose. After that, it was basically all plain sailing,which brings me to my next comment..
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
Lovely, you did kind of scare me xD I can't afford to go to a hospital well because I don't have health insurance o.o I always go to private doctors, which are a better choice in Poland anyway. I'll just have to see and deal with the issues as they come.
If you are doing well now and don't do anything over the top, you should be fine. I can understand that you might be scared reading Jojo's input but from personal experience and feedback from many others I's like to suggest that what she describes is far from being the case for everyone. For example, having had absolutely none of the issues she mentions, I haven't seen a doctor since getting home and know that this is the case for plenty of people. From what I can gather, the most frequent post-op issues are torn stiches, granulation, which can get very nasty if left untreated, and yeast infections/thrush (Candida Albicans). The high risk period for other UTI's is the couple of weeks just after the cathether is removed but afterwards, with decent personal hygiene, that risk should not be any higher than for a cis-female.
I also went to 2 dilations a day before leaving Bangkok and it was never an issue. As mentioned in another post, I am now down to one a day and it's going fine. No problem from one day to the next.
Wishing you both all the very best!
Donna
As Donna said, wishing my recovery was fast as hers but we all having different bodies.
Congrats Blackponyx. The hot flashes and chills are usually from the hormonal imbalance. Try ask the nurses if you can't get estrogen patches. And don't take the tramadol if it's getting you dizzy. I stopped taking yramadol 2 weeks after surgery and asked ms Sri if it was OK and she said Yea because it was making me feel dizzy and felt like fainting.
And Ivy, I apologize, didn't mean to scare you. I do not have insurance as well but with the hospital visits they signed me up for medicaid.
Haha it's ok, I'm not scared :3 In case there's an issue I'll just get a gyno appointment and have it treated, simple as that. I hope.
I'm more worried about my loose stiches at the moment... Sri says it's ok and the doctor can fix it if there's a need, but I don't know if it's my fault, something I did, or it just happened. I walk quite a bit and do a lot of sitting on the donut, simply cause I feel well enough not to be in bed all the time :/
Also there's so much discharge I change pads every couple hours cause it's gross. It's not blood, but it's like yellow/orange/brown-ish liquidy discharge.
I slept without underwear tonight, and there was so much discharge on my thighs, since I sleep on my side with the donut pillow between my legs, it was so gross o.o
I'm also a bit concerned about the swelling up in the pubic area. Will it go down? Too bad it's Sunday and Sri didn't visit so I couldn't ask her. There's also some swelling on the labias still, I take double dosage of the anti-swelling medication.
Are you still taking the antibiotics? It sounds like a possible infection, if you are not still taking the antibiotics get you some, I purchased a surplus of 500mg amoxicialian and stayed taking that for a week after I was done with theirs they supplied
Quote from: calico on December 21, 2014, 08:00:32 AM
Are you still taking the antibiotics? It sounds like a possible infection, if you are not still taking the antibiotics get you some, I purchased a surplus of 500mg amoxicialian and stayed taking that for a week after I was done with theirs they supplied
I'm still taking a double dosage actually as instructed by Sri xD It ran out today though so tomorrow they'll either refill it or I'll get off it.
Oh and also, I use A LOT of lube, so maybe it's lube mixed with discharge? It's mostly yellow. When Sri was here Saturday morning she said there was no infection.
Thank you Donna, jojo and all for the replies/
Apart from the hot/cold issue, I'm also having pain. Initially it was bearable but the last 2 nights, combined with the hot/cold sweating i have been losing sleep. And its funny how all these happen only at night.
I can't describe the pain. Intially i would say 'zapping' pains but it was misleading because it doesn't just zap and stop. The pain is slow and prolonged. like many small spots. Its akin to someone stitching me up over and over again slowly running through the needles. IF that even makes sense >.<
Today is post op day 7. I know its still premature and all but I did read about being able to walk around the hotel/hang out at cafe at post op day 10. I would certainly wish to do that especially since my stay here is shorter than recommended (i'm leaving on 31st, 16 days post op).
Getting up and walking around the room is ok now....i don't feel strong but its not nauseous. i just feel weak. but i don't wanna be bed ridden and all so i wanna try to do light walking as soon as i can to speed up recovery.
xx
Sri just left, everything is good, no infection, she said that some people just have more discharge than others. She said it's better to sleep in underwear. There's a 50/50 chance dr. Chett will have to fix my stiches, cause she said they look better than when she saw them on Saturday.
I'm supposed to take double dosage of meds until my follow up ;3
So I'm relieved xD
Quote from: blackponyx on December 21, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Thank you Donna, jojo and all for the replies/
Apart from the hot/cold issue, I'm also having pain. Initially it was bearable but the last 2 nights, combined with the hot/cold sweating i have been losing sleep. And its funny how all these happen only at night.
I can't describe the pain. Intially i would say 'zapping' pains but it was misleading because it doesn't just zap and stop. The pain is slow and prolonged. like many small spots. Its akin to someone stitching me up over and over again slowly running through the needles. IF that even makes sense >.<
Today is post op day 7. I know its still premature and all but I did read about being able to walk around the hotel/hang out at cafe at post op day 10. I would certainly wish to do that especially since my stay here is shorter than recommended (i'm leaving on 31st, 16 days post op).
Getting up and walking around the room is ok now....i don't feel strong but its not nauseous. i just feel weak. but i don't wanna be bed ridden and all so i wanna try to do light walking as soon as i can to speed up recovery.
xx
When Sri comes to see you, try asking about the pains you're having. I would think it's normal cause I also felt that pain but I always laid on my back with my legs spread open with a pillow under my legs to keep my knees elevated. I slept that way with no underwear so the wounds could heal faster if it's not to moist down there.
Take the medications as instructed but if tramadol is making you dizzy, take pracactemol or that other painkiller. Don't keep too much moisture down there. You need it to be a little dry.
It's been 1 month and a half now and I can finally sit normally instead of sideways so don't worry and don't rush yourself to do crazy things. Give your body time to heal and take care not to exert yourself not to mention that you don't have enough estrogen in you right now which is the menopause symptoms creeping up on you.
Quote from: Poison_Ivy on December 22, 2014, 12:27:23 AM
Sri just left, everything is good, no infection, she said that some people just have more discharge than others. She said it's better to sleep in underwear. There's a 50/50 chance dr. Chett will have to fix my stiches, cause she said they look better than when she saw them on Saturday.
I'm supposed to take double dosage of meds until my follow up ;3
So I'm relieved xD
When it was my 3rd week before I went home, Dr Chettawut restitched my labia as well just to make sure it doesn't get loose when heading home on my 16 hour flight. Everything will workout fine.
Have you taken any estrogen at all for the time being since?
Estrogen should help with the healing also. BTW antibiotics will make you poop so it's normal. How is your dilating? BTW tell Ms Sri that "Joanna" said hi.
Quote from: jojo702 on December 23, 2014, 05:11:00 AM
When it was my 3rd week before I went home, Dr Chettawut restitched my labia as well just to make sure it doesn't get loose when heading home on my 16 hour flight. Everything will workout fine.
Have you taken any estrogen at all for the time being since?
Estrogen should help with the healing also. BTW antibiotics will make you poop so it's normal. How is your dilating? BTW tell Ms Sri that "Joanna" said hi.
Today Sri said I don't need any additional stiching up, she also said it varies from day to day since the wounds are healing. I've been taking low dosage of estrogen pills for over a week now, since they allowed me :3
I dilate 2 times a day without any issues, cause I'm too lazy to do 3 xD But I tested out if I can get away with 2, and the dilators always go in smoothly to full depth :3
My flight is also about 16 hours counting the layover, I'm not looking forward to that.
I'll let Sri know you said hi :D
Quote from: jojo702 on December 23, 2014, 05:03:54 AM
When Sri comes to see you, try asking about the pains you're having. I would think it's normal cause I also felt that pain but I always laid on my back with my legs spread open with a pillow under my legs to keep my knees elevated. I slept that way with no underwear so the wounds could heal faster if it's not to moist down there.
Take the medications as instructed but if tramadol is making you dizzy, take pracactemol or that other painkiller. Don't keep too much moisture down there. You need it to be a little dry.
It's been 1 month and a half now and I can finally sit normally instead of sideways so don't worry and don't rush yourself to do crazy things. Give your body time to heal and take care not to exert yourself not to mention that you don't have enough estrogen in you right now which is the menopause symptoms creeping up on you.
Thank you jojo.
I did tell Sri and she said it was the nerves reconnecting so it's perfectly normal. She said this could last up till 3 months. @.@
I tend to get it more intense and frequent only at night though, affecting sleep.
I hope you are recovering well and happy holidays to all :)
Quote from: blackponyx on November 18, 2014, 02:46:31 AM
Hi Posion_Ivy
Hope it goes well for you. And pardon me for hijacking this thread :p
I'm gonna be at the Rama cottages from mid Dec to end Dec. If anyone wants to share a 'cottage' (?) we can do it and get a bigger room/split cost. I PMed another girl BW something but haven't heard from her.
If anyone is keen, we can hang out. Christmas in the hotel room sounds miserable. I will be alone.
Thank you! :)
Hello blackponyx, my apologies but I don't come on this site too often due to school and work. I'm actually in Bangkok now at the dusit princess but I was at the Rama cottages on 12/13/14 until my surgery on 12/16/14. I originally planned on staying at dusit princess the entire time of my visit but there weren't any vacancies available before my surgery date. I'm so glad that I didn't stay at the cottages because that place was abit too primitive for my taste and I feel much safer in a hotel where I'm not on the ground level. While at the cottages I had ants in the kitchen and bathroom and then my ipad could barely connect to their wifi. I so hope your stay at the cottages has been much better than mine. :)
Had my follow up with Dr. Chett today, everything is normal, he cut some loose threads of stiches so they're hardly noticeable.
The nurses said the speculum and the examination would hurt a little, but I honestly barely felt it. Is it normal to feel so little pain, or am I just recovering fast? I was a bit surprised cause everyone at the clinic was treating me as if I would have difficulty handling the stairs/walking, but honestly my mobility is nearly back to normal, I'm not about to go doing splits and stuff, but you get the point. I even ran to the main lobby since I was running a little late and didn't want to keep the driver waiting.
Well 3 more days until I leave, looking forward to snowy Poland after this tropical vacation :3 I never thought I'd be excited to see snow. I'm going to Seacon Square or some other mall on Sunday to spend my leftover money ;D
Hope y'all are having happy holidays, thanks for assisting me on this journey and reading my mess xD
Quote from: BWgirl_1114 on December 23, 2014, 12:11:22 PM
Hello blackponyx, my apologies but I don't come on this site too often due to school and work. I'm actually in Bangkok now at the dusit princess but I was at the Rama cottages on 12/13/14 until my surgery on 12/16/14. I originally planned on staying at dusit princess the entire time of my visit but there weren't any vacancies available before my surgery date. I'm so glad that I didn't stay at the cottages because that place was abit too primitive for my taste and I feel much safer in a hotel where I'm not on the ground level. While at the cottages I had ants in the kitchen and bathroom and then my ipad could barely connect to their wifi. I so hope your stay at the cottages has been much better than mine. :)
No worries at all. I am glad you enjoy the dusit princess. I've never stayed so i can't objectively compare but i would assume it's a conventional above average hotel room.
Re the cottages being 'primitive' - i might do a separate thread on this, on my experience with Chet and the hotel (like a 'review') but in short yes i get what you mean. Not sure if 'primitive' is the best word to describe but if you prefer a hotel room high up in the building then this is not for you. I never regretted my choice to stay at the cottages (although i feel there are areas of improvement) because i like the option of being able to open the door anytime i want to take a breath of fresh air, or even stroll and walk around the cottages (which i've been doing).
Re ants in the kitchen - perhaps u got a room that had a previous person who didn't keep the place clean. Or that housekeeping missed it. In any case, no excuse for that. I wouldn't tolerate that too. But in my room, it's some occasional lizards (which are very common in Asia so I'm guessing hotel rooms might have them too although a lot less). I think housekeeping plays an important role but it boils down to personal habits and character. If you leave food all over/drop food crumbs on the floor/don't bother cleaning up or keeping your food sealed then there's definitely a higher risk of attracting insects (hate cockroaches but thank god haven't met one here yet!!!).
The thing is this place is also with an aged/elderly home - which sort of explains it all. It's peaceful, quiet and less tourists. More like a recovery area for people and I liked this part. I would really hate to get properly/decently dressed, and take the elevator down, pass the lobby with a sea of tourists (on vacation) just to take a walk! I feel more 'in place' here like everyone's recovering together. Haha. To each his own i guess. Things in the room here are basic but adequate. Except they don't have a microwave. No bathtub but we won't get to use it. Everything else met my expectations.
Not sure about the location of Dusit but i heard it's near (? walking distance?) to Seacon mall. Here, it's a decent walk to 7 Eleven but Tesco is a bit of a challenge because it has an overhead bridge. I strongly advise all to head out either before 9 or after 6 to avoid the sun. At Tesco there's everything and some restaurants + a KFC. Not the best variety but i could deal with that.
Hope it helps a little for those deciding between the 2.