Kentucky bill: Catch transgender student in wrong bathroom, win $2,500
News & World, Steven Nelson
Jan. 2014
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kentucky-bill-catch-transgender-student-in-wrong-bathroom-win-dollar2500/ar-AA8fX5K
Kentucky students using sex-segregated bathrooms and locker rooms could win $2,500 if they catch a member of the excluded biological sex there, under proposed legislation.
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Wow.
What is wrong with these people?
well... maybe they are afraid that you can catch gender dysphoria from a toilet seat.
Wait, you CAN'T catch gender dysphoria from toilet seats? Damn, I thought that what happened to me. [emoji13]
Now I'll never suspect that C.B. Embry is a deeply closeted and self-loathing transwoman. /snark
Quote from: ChiGirl on January 16, 2015, 03:48:07 PM
Wait, you CAN'T catch gender dysphoria from toilet seats? Damn, I thought that what happened to me. [emoji13]
Nah, it was "girl cooties" the whole time.
Oddly, I think this might be a good thing. If it spurs debate, it will help people understand why we use the appropriate restrooms and how it would be worse to have a trans guy in the ladies or a trans woman in the mens.
Quote from: suzifrommd on January 16, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Oddly, I think this might be a good thing. If it spurs debate, it will help people understand why we use the appropriate restrooms and how it would be worse to have a trans guy in the ladies or a trans woman in the mens.
Seriously, show of hands... who here thinks Buck Angel belongs in the ladies' room?
Quote..."I have a friend, and we can all say these things, who is a homosexual and she agrees that she doesn't want men in her bathroom," he says...
No problem with this...I wouldn't want men in the lady's room either. Agreed, ladies?
Quote...Embry also says he's supportive of anti-bullying laws that protect sexual minorities along with other groups – often a worrying prospect for religious conservatives and some libertarians...
First of all, anti-bullying laws should NOT be directed at any specific minorities. Bullying is WRONG, period, end of statement. It should be considered a type of assault, with the same punishments (i.e., jail time) and ostracizing. Oh wait, we don't ostricize people anymore...well, they shouldn't be allowed to play on the school's sports teams or other extra-curricular activities.
Second, What is this "worrying prospect"? Does he mean to say religious conservatives and libertarians are against anti-bullying laws in general, the laws' focus on minority protection, or that they are concerned the laws will be used specifically against them? I can see conservatives being frightened (especially the religious, brow-beating kind), but not so much the Libertarians.
Quote from: Jill F on January 16, 2015, 06:52:21 PM
Seriously, show of hands... who here thinks Buck Angel belongs in the ladies' room?
One thing about that Jill - the old saying to be careful for what you wish for and the law of unintended consequences comes to mind - these people want to legislate us out of the bathrooms that match our gender - OK, so be it.
Can you imagine the uproar when trans women start using the men's room because "that's the law" and they are required to? And like you said - Buck Angel in a women's rest room?!?! OMG! :o :laugh:
I love the word "catch.' How about labeling trans students with pink triangles so the bathroom police can identify them.
Too bad it's aimed at students. We could have taken turns reporting each other and made a million dollars! :laugh:
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 17, 2015, 12:09:07 AM
Too bad it's aimed at students. We could have taken turns reporting each other and made a million dollars! :laugh:
Damn. You're right!
Let's go round up everybody in Youth Talk! I'll bring plenty of bottled water. >:-)
It's as if some people just want to hunt us all for sport. At least if they did that, they'd be honest about their complete disregard for humanity.
Quote from: IAmDariaQuinn on January 17, 2015, 01:18:58 AM
It's as if some people just want to hunt us all for sport. At least if they did that, they'd be honest about their complete disregard for humanity.
Well, all I can say is this: The prey CAN and WILL turn on the hunter.
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 17, 2015, 12:09:07 AM
Too bad it's aimed at students. We could have taken turns reporting each other and made a million dollars! :laugh:
I was thinking the same thing -
1. Enroll in a Kentucky school
2. Turn yourself in every time you pee
3. Tuition is paid for! 2 or 3 times will cover a semester!
From the Huffington Post ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/kentucky-transgender-students-bill_n_6489948.html
Kentucky is also one of the remaining states in the U.S. where gay marriage has still not been legalized. Reading the above article, I get the impression that Embry is not only transphobic, he clearly does not know the difference between a transgendered person and a cross dresser.
'"They're certainly welcome to live their lives as they choose, if they want to dress as the opposite sex and the school is OK with that, that's fine," he told the outlet."'
According to this clown, we "chose" this life, we want to dress as the opposite sex and we should be able to use whichever bathroom we want. Well, he's just an ignorant boob and this bill needs to be overturned or challenged in the state's highest court. I hope it goes to court where it will draw more attention and hopefully, protest.
Miles
I hear about ridiculous bills like this all the time in the US, I get the impression most never come to pass. Even if this one did fall through I don't think it would ever come into practice that much.
Quote from: Going4Miles on January 17, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
From the Huffington Post ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/kentucky-transgender-students-bill_n_6489948.html
Kentucky is also one of the remaining states in the U.S. where gay marriage has still not been legalized. Reading the above article, I get the impression that Embry is not only transphobic, he clearly does not know the difference between a transgendered person and a cross dresser.
'"They're certainly welcome to live their lives as they choose, if they want to dress as the opposite sex and the school is OK with that, that's fine," he told the outlet."'
According to this clown, we "chose" this life, we want to dress as the opposite sex and we should be able to use whichever bathroom we want. Well, he's just an ignorant boob and this bill needs to be overturned or challenged in the state's highest court. I hope it goes to court where it will draw more attention and hopefully, protest.
Miles
This is funny! I expect him to not know anything about us, but you really should.
Community Definitions:
Transgender: an inclusive umbrella term which covers anyone who transcends their birth gender for any reason. This includes but is not limited to Androgynes, Crossdressers, Drag kings, Drag queens, Intersexuals, Transsexuals, and ->-bleeped-<-s
http://www.gendersupport.org/forums/index.php/topic,54369.0.html
"Trangendered" is also incorrect usage.
Hugs, Devlyn
***Trigger warning***
There could be an increased risk from cis * people now...imagine if a "girlie-guy" were to use the men's room...and the men inside decide that he is a she...and then force him against the wall and pull down his pants while "roughing him up"....or if a very butch looking woman goes into the lady's room and that happens to her?
Sorry if this triggered anyone...
Quote from: Eva Marie on January 16, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
One thing about that Jill - the old saying to be careful for what you wish for and the law of unintended consequences comes to mind - these people want to legislate us out of the bathrooms that match our gender - OK, so be it.
Can you imagine the uproar when trans women start using the men's room because "that's the law" and they are required to? And like you said - Buck Angel in a women's rest room?!?! OMG! :o :laugh:
Interesting thing happened at the roller rink today. My son needed to use the restroom - he has started using urinals and my wife was not available, so I went with him. Standing in front of the wall that divides the two restroom entrances was, based on her very visible crucifix pendant, a Good Christian Woman. As I started to go in with my son, the woman said to me, "You can't go in there, that's the boy's room".
I ignored her, we went over to the urinals and I stood "guard" as my son emptied his bladder. I could hear the woman just outside instructing her husband to go in and "tell her to leave the boy's room". He came in, looked for a moment and went right back out again and mumbled something to her about "helping the kid pee". Now, I *know* that most days I don't always get perceived as a woman & today I was wearing nondescript clothes & no makeup.
This isn't really about sex or gender, it is about *control* over others.
https://twitter.com/TransNewsDaily/status/556650243291631616
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/01/17/kentucky-proposal-encounter-a-transgender-person-in-the-wrong-restroom-sue-for-up-to-2500/
QuoteKentucky proposal: Encounter a transgender person in the wrong restroom, sue for up to $2,500
A proposal in the Kentucky legislature would require that transgender students avoid school restrooms, locker rooms and showers that don't correspond with their sex assigned at birth.
The Kentucky Student Privacy Act, sponsored by Republican state Sen. C.B. Embry, is also designed to punish school administrators who give transgender students access to school facilities designated for the opposite sex.
Now Kentucky is possibly taking a step backwards.
This just makes me mad.
Quote from: Going4Miles on January 16, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
The nerve of some transphobic people. Now they're going to try and offer money to people for turning in those school employees who allow transgendered people to use public bathrooms that are appropriate to their adopted gender. ::) :P
Miles
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Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 17, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
I expect him to not know anything about us, but you really should.
Community Definitions:
Transgender: an inclusive umbrella term which covers anyone who transcends their birth gender for any reason. This includes but is not limited to Androgynes, Crossdressers, Drag kings, Drag queens, Intersexuals, Transsexuals, and ->-bleeped-<-s
http://www.gendersupport.org/forums/index.php/topic,54369.0.html
"Trangendered" is also incorrect usage.
Hugs, Devlyn
Thanks for providing the breakdown of we folks who fall under the transgendered umbrella. Yes, I already know all of this.
Miles
Quote from: Myarkstir on January 17, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
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Thanks Myarkstir. I'll try harder next time. :police:
Miles
Quote from: Going4Miles on January 18, 2015, 03:10:53 PM
Thanks for providing the breakdown of we folks who fall under the transgendered umbrella. Yes, I already know all of this.
Miles
Well, I posted it because you said this:
Quote from: Going4Miles on January 17, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
From the Huffington Post ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/kentucky-transgender-students-bill_n_6489948.html
Kentucky is also one of the remaining states in the U.S. where gay marriage has still not been legalized. Reading the above article, I get the impression that Embry is not only transphobic, he clearly does not know the difference between a transgendered person and a cross dresser.
'"They're certainly welcome to live their lives as they choose, if they want to dress as the opposite sex and the school is OK with that, that's fine," he told the outlet."'
According to this clown, we "chose" this life, we want to dress as the opposite sex and we should be able to use whichever bathroom we want. Well, he's just an ignorant boob and this bill needs to be overturned or challenged in the state's highest court. I hope it goes to court where it will draw more attention and hopefully, protest.
Miles
Quote from: suzifrommd on January 16, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Oddly, I think this might be a good thing. If it spurs debate, it will help people understand why we use the appropriate restrooms and how it would be worse to have a trans guy in the ladies or a trans woman in the mens.
I think it's going to be fun striking this law down. A little civil disobedience?
Quote from: Jill F on January 16, 2015, 06:52:21 PM
Seriously, show of hands... who here thinks Buck Angel belongs in the ladies' room?
LOL.
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 18, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
Well, I posted it because you said this:
I have a tendency to over-think things and when I read the article, crossdressers entered my mind. Crossdresser is an inclusive term for basically those who dress as the opposite sex to their assigned gender at birth. While most crossdressers would be considered as being a part of the transgender umbrella, not all crossdressers identify themselves to be transgender. Anyway, that is all I wanted say.
Miles
Will Kentucky send the GIU (Genitalia Inspectors Unit) to investigate (cue Law & Order sound effect) :police:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3MuUTmXNk
*ashamed to be a Kentuckian*
Quote from: rachel89 on January 21, 2015, 11:29:10 PM
Will Kentucky send the GIU (Genitalia Inspectors Unit) to investigate (cue Law & Order sound effect) :police:
Oi! You lot. Drop those knickers and let's have a look, wot!
Ridiculousness abounds.
Kentucky Transgender Restroom Bill Withdrawn from Senate
March 24, 2015
http://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/kentucky-transgender-bathroom-bill-fails-in-legisl/27223/B0wAcjpTmkasMjHE1jX0bw (http://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/kentucky-transgender-bathroom-bill-fails-in-legisl/27223/B0wAcjpTmkasMjHE1jX0bw)
A proposed law that drew widespread criticism for targeting transgender students in Kentucky appears to be dead.
The Kentucky General Assembly adjourns without passing the Student Privacy Act. That's the law that requires transgender students to use the restroom designated by their birth gender
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Victory (for now) in one state, three to go
I'm speechless.
Wow...that's unexpected.