I've been on HRT for 15 months and my genitals have shrunk considerably . I'm having an incredible hard time peeing whether sitting or stand because I've gotten so small that I can't direct the stream properly whether standing or sitting. If I sit its nearly impossible to direct the stream downwards and if I stand I have to bend almost parallel to the toilet . I don't know I'll just have to live with it until GRS, I was just wondering if others were finding it hard not to flood the bathroom floor.
Mine are pretty small as well. I have to be very careful aiming while sitting and sometimes have to pull it out a little. I don't think it's even possible to stand and pee anymore without peeing on myself. My testicles pretty much stay of in the cavities alone. Makes tucking a breeze and I have been able to wear a once piece swimsuit without any male bulge at all with minimum amount of tucking.
glad to know I have company. so bikini's are possible if I loose weight
I've almost been on HRT as long as you have but I don't have that issue. I occasionally spray to the side while standing but quickly bring things back under control. I guess I'll have to just wait and see. I have a horrible time tucking. I try every once and a while and it always doesn't work out.
I've had the same issue. It became more of an issue after the orchi. Oh well. Gotta tuck that stupid water pipe in the right direction when sitting. Standing stopped being an option a long time ago. (Not that I'm complaining about that)
Quote from: stephaniec on January 27, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
I've been on HRT for 15 months and my genitals have shrunk considerably . I'm having an incredible hard time peeing whether sitting or stand because I've gotten so small that I can't direct the stream properly whether standing or sitting. If I sit its nearly impossible to direct the stream downwards and if I stand I have to bend almost parallel to the toilet . I don't know I'll just have to live with it until GRS, I was just wondering if others were finding it hard not to flood the bathroom floor.
I've had that problem my whole life. I'm almost 1 month here HRT and it's gotten worse. I rarely use the toilet seat any longer. It helps with aim.
FYI: I'm IS.
For me though, I just hold it down.
I've been on 17 months, but mine have stayed the same, underdeveloped. I don't even need to tuck.
I'm also in the 'need a search party to find them' group :laugh: and wear a leotard to the gym and a bikini to the pool/beach.
As for having a pee (sorry if TMI), I have to keep my legs together and just go for it. No hope of standing up to pee without decorating the entire stall :embarrassed:
I try to move my legs as far apart as I can get them ,but that thing is determined not to budge from a horizontal angle. lately I've been soaking the rest room floors in Starbucks and its quite embarrassing .
Try using medical tape to control direction, I find I now have to use one hand to apply some pressure to my bladder to get things going when peeing.
I tried to pee standing up a couple of years ago & it wouldn't start.
On the issue of shrinking, my ex would say "any bigger & it would be too big" i've "lost" size in all dimensions so now she would say "I've had bigger but you'll do"
I would consider you lucky. I have had very little shrinkage and it really limits my clothing options. I wish they would just go away already. I cannot tuck because I feel like the warmth raises T production, very unpleasant to say the least, so for now I just wear loose pants to hide what never should have been there anyway. :(
Quote from: Sydney_NYC on January 27, 2015, 09:51:18 PM
Mine are pretty small as well. I have to be very careful aiming while sitting and sometimes have to pull it out a little. I don't think it's even possible to stand and pee anymore without peeing on myself. My testicles pretty much stay of in the cavities alone. Makes tucking a breeze and I have been able to wear a once piece swimsuit without any male bulge at all with minimum amount of tucking.
You are very fortunate. Must be great.
Quote from: Steph34 on January 28, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
I would consider you lucky. I have had very little shrinkage and it really limits my clothing options. I wish they would just go away already. I cannot tuck because I feel like the warmth raises T production, very unpleasant to say the least, so for now I just wear loose pants to hide what never should have been there anyway. :(
If anything, tucking should reduce "T".
Quote from: mac1 on January 29, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
If anything, tucking should reduce "T".
That's what I thought, too. I always heard that whitey tighties reduced T/sperm count.
My cysts are less than half the size they used to be, but the other part has seen very little if any change- the only difference with that is the perineal raphe underneath has darkened considerably.
I tend to keep things pretty active down there, so I imagine that is the reason behind the lack of change even with a very high dose of subdermal pellet HRT. I am non op and like having the functionality.
Quote from: mac1 on January 29, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
If anything, tucking should reduce "T".
For me, anything tight in that area makes the poison-producing organ tingle and stretch, which I always thought meant more of that horrible substance. Even if that is not the case, anything tight still draws my attention to something I wish were not there and worsens my dysphoria as a result. That is why I prefer loose clothing to hide the problem area for now.
weeee doggies. have yall discussed this with your intended / tenative GRS SRS surgeon?
I went years ago,{ so ask yours for their specific pre op directives,} but as atrophy began, my SRS dr. insisted that i get a hold on the ole tally whacker, even if I had to wear surgical gloves, and stretch it.
as he said, " Dont let it go away, I need that skin and nerve bundle, to give you the best possiable outcome aftr surgery."
consult with your doctor ASAP for a recomendation.
Me too.... need to set up a search party too 8)
That was one of the first things I noticed, started with small shrinkage but over a year or so got even more got tiny (was always small in that dept. anyway :laugh:)... Yes (Stephanie) I can get away with Bikini's, as long as they are not to loose as water around them allows a small amount of movement, even big "spots" can be embarrassing :P
L Katy :-*
This is totally TMI but have you retained a "self gratification regiment"? When I started HRT my then doctor who has treated transgender women for nearly a decade told me very sternly that if I do not stay active with "self gratification" at least once or twice a month I will run the risk of extreme shrinkage and when it comes time for surgery my new bits won't be as deep and will lack the necessary sensitivity to reach climax. Needless to say I've stayed active out of fear and panic of genital atrophy and for my future ability to climax and so far the testes have shrunk to about 1/3 of their original size, I went sterile and I have seen only a small amount of shrinkage but nothing to worry about I think.
I know for sure mine sure has gone a bit more then 'Turtle' after 5 years
Since my life is one irony on top of another, shrinkage has not nor will it ever be a problem :o
I'm just trying to learn to not flood the floor
Quote from: lilredneckgirl on January 29, 2015, 05:26:15 PM
weeee doggies. have yall discussed this with your intended / tenative GRS SRS surgeon?
I went years ago,{ so ask yours for their specific pre op directives,} but as atrophy began, my SRS dr. insisted that i get a hold on the ole tally whacker, even if I had to wear surgical gloves, and stretch it.
as he said, " Dont let it go away, I need that skin and nerve bundle, to give you the best possiable outcome aftr surgery."
consult with your doctor ASAP for a recomendation.
I've heard the same. It's a bummer because since I've confronted myself on this whole dysphoria thing, I haven't touched it and it's apparently the time in my life I really need to. The irony is killing me.
On the bright side, it will make me more willing to be intimate with my wife. I enjoy being with her even if I have to use the wrong tools. That also made me read this thread because, as long as I have to have it, I don't want it to vanish into obscurity. Hopefully, "exercising" it regularly will stave that off.
Six months on HRT and mine goes Turtle mode big time. Most of the time there is nothing down then except two very small balls and the skin. Hell its at the point that if it was cut off I would not even notice much change.
Kristy
Just out of curiosity, by how much is it suppose to shrink?
In the nearly 18 months being on ERT, it's been about the same size since before going on ERT.
I think it only shrinks a lot if you don't keep it exercised.
I've barely noticed any change
I exersise all the time and it's disappearing , which is all right except when I p. I usually have to p bent over the toilet then sit to do # 2. If I'm sitting it's glue to my body just stuck pointing horizontally, even trying to grab on and point it down is quite difficult.
Quote from: Jennygirl on January 31, 2015, 06:23:45 AM
I think it only shrinks a lot if you don't keep it exercised.
I've barely noticed any change
Well, I don't touch it to do it. Tried that three times in my life, and freaked out each time.
No, for me it's only shrunk like 1-2% in the last 18 months. Of course, I have the penis of a 7-9 year old boy, so....
Hmmm.
Why me as I seem to have had no change. The darn thing is still, well, huge. :(
16 months on E...
Bother.
Hi;
After nearly 24 months on HRT, basically I am just like Cindy. Actually I have worked out a way to go (if I am in the male toilets). That is to lean sort of 45 degrees (sort of in a airplane crash position so that the thing down there is sort of at an angle over the basin). This way I can just about clear my bladder , as often sitting down doesn't completely clear it. Mind you I am pretty sure that once its gone, it will not be a problem as I will just squirt!.
I have not tried a swimsuit or bikini yet, but in Women's shorts and jeans nothing is really noticeable at all. I am thinking of getting a one piece with a frill as I am getting to the stage that I need it for water aerobics.
Quote from: Jennygirl on January 29, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
That's what I thought, too. I always heard that whitey tighties reduced T/sperm count.
My cysts are less than half the size they used to be, but the other part has seen very little if any change- the only difference with that is the perineal raphe underneath has darkened considerably.
I tend to keep things pretty active down there, so I imagine that is the reason behind the lack of change even with a very high dose of subdermal pellet HRT. I am non op and like having the functionality.
The scrotal sack is there so the testicles can be a temperature lower than your bodies general 98.6 degrees. Spermatogenesis becomes difficult if the testicles are too cold or too hot. Muscles in the scrotal sack contract and release to pull the tissue closer to the body for warmth and regulate blood flow. Hence tight briefs do reduce sperm counts.
Tight underwear/tucking reduces your body's ability to regulate the blood flow and temperature in the area due to the increased non-varying proximity. Inhibiting the ability to produce testosterone also causes shrinkage of the testicle.
My guess is that the extended periods of reduced blood flow is causing the looser scrotal skin to not rebuild as fast as skin necrosis. The nerve clusters should be intact, but you may lose some surface area.
I haven't run into this issue yet, but I'd suggest while seated, manipulating the tissue to lengthen the urethra enough to make sure it is unobstructed. You may have to lean forward some. You might need to go to you GP or Primary Care Doctor and have a physical if there are still issues. Just because we are trans doesn't mean we can't get kidney stones and prostate cancer.
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If by exercising y'all mean masturbating,[emoji112] I doubt the brief time spent diverting blood to the shaft will solve the issue. I'd suggest sleeping nude, and don't keep your genitals constricted all day everyday. Even then, there will still be some unavoidable shrinkage when taking anti-androgens and estrogen. Although I'm basing this on things I've read, and am by no means a doctor.
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Well I do keep it working twice a week and its still shrinking. When I wake up in the morning everything is so sunk in that its as if it was never there.
Quote from: judithlynn on February 01, 2015, 04:01:32 AM
Hi;
After nearly 24 months on HRT, basically I am just like Cindy. Actually I have worked out a way to go (if I am in the male toilets). That is to lean sort of 45 degrees (sort of in a airplane crash position so that the thing down there is sort of at an angle over the basin). This way I can just about clear my bladder , as often sitting down doesn't completely clear it. Mind you I am pretty sure that once its gone, it will not be a problem as I will just squirt!.
I have not tried a swimsuit or bikini yet, but in Women's shorts and jeans nothing is really noticeable at all. I am thinking of getting a one piece with a frill as I am getting to the stage that I need it for water aerobics.
Why not a tankini? That way you can have the coverage of a one piece but the convenience of a two piece when peeing, etc.
Quote from: Obfuskatie on February 01, 2015, 06:30:37 AM
If by exercising y'all mean masturbating,[emoji112] I doubt the brief time spent diverting blood to the shaft will solve the issue. I'd suggest sleeping nude, and don't keep your genitals constricted all day everyday. Even then, there will still be some unavoidable shrinkage when taking anti-androgens and estrogen. Although I'm basing this on things I've read, and am by no means a doctor.
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that method doesn't work for me either I've slept naked all m life and have never tucked.
Quote from: judithlynn on February 01, 2015, 04:01:32 AM
Hi;
After nearly 24 months on HRT, basically I am just like Cindy. Actually I have worked out a way to go (if I am in the male toilets). That is to lean sort of 45 degrees (sort of in a airplane crash position so that the thing down there is sort of at an angle over the basin). This way I can just about clear my bladder , as often sitting down doesn't completely clear it. Mind you I am pretty sure that once its gone, it will not be a problem as I will just squirt!.
I have not tried a swimsuit or bikini yet, but in Women's shorts and jeans nothing is really noticeable at all. I am thinking of getting a one piece with a frill as I am getting to the stage that I need it for water aerobics.
that's exactly what I have to do
Pre-hrt for now, there's really not a lot there in the first place. Maybe it'll just disappear in the future?!
Not on HRT yet, but soon.
I always sit to pee. I hope when the HRT starts I will not have those issues. We'll see I guess.
A urinary assistance device like the go girl may help "direct the sream"
I figured out a way, I hover at a 45 degree angle for #1 then sit the rest of the way for 2
Extend and sit forward, works for me.
Quote from: Jennygirl on January 29, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
That's what I thought, too. I always heard that whitey tighties reduced T/sperm count.
They do, but it's more likely because of temperature not T amount. They're on the outside for some reason, right? :D
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2136041
Ok so this is crazy..only 8 weeks today and mine is already doing that turtle thing. Have to straighten It out first. Only can imagine what is to come.
OK...
Reach down and grab the head and pull. With the other hand, grab some loose skin right behind the head and aim. Do this while sitting..
Stretching can be just pulling it. One doesn't have to climax if one doesn't want to do so.
Remember to stretch the sack as well.
And for some, I believe that being larger right now may help with depth post SRS, depending on technique and skill of the surgeon.
Jennifer
Lol...Seriously ever since I read this thread I stop and check on whats going on down there every bathroom break. Being a little overweight only makes it worse. One thing very different is no more morning wood. Always was a problem trying to aim that rigid thing. Ok so Im on hormones in a male to female transgender thread and with all the soft skin, blossoming bustlines, silky clothes, make up and such here I am talking about Mr. Happy. :laugh:
I can't direct a stream at all anymore and it does spray off a bit but that's not been a issues for sitting to pee, ands yeah mine has probably halved in size.
I can't stand up and pee anymore. It's hard and I kinda have to pull it out and stretch it first. So I just sit. When I go to a public restroom I kinda have to sit but at home I took a shortcut especially at night when I'm groggy and have a spiro/HCTZ induced pee.
As some you've read I'm an asexual agender with a wish to become neutrois(if younger).
I'm luckly impotent and been it for almost a year.My thing hasen't become smaller the reason is that the way I made my useless was by banding it.When I band I try to make it hard.
Have anyone of you tried to use a penis pump to recreate a normal erection ? And for those who have, did/do you exprience any problems with sensation(pre-op / post-op) ? My banding have resulted in a lower sensation.
Quote from: Jennygirl on January 31, 2015, 06:23:45 AM
I think it only shrinks a lot if you don't keep it exercised.
I've barely noticed any change
Exercised? My mind is seriously racing! :icon_surprised:
As for me, I had shrinkage but not too tremendous. I think I still have the necessary real estate for the transformation into a dynamic vagina.
Quote from: ImagineKate on February 15, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
I can't stand up and pee anymore. It's hard and I kinda have to pull it out and stretch it first. So I just sit. When I go to a public restroom I kinda have to sit but at home I took a shortcut especially at night when I'm groggy and have a spiro/HCTZ induced pee.
"spiro/HCTZ" - what is that?
>:( It is still there. >:(
Quote from: mac1 on February 20, 2015, 10:57:05 AM
"spiro/HCTZ" - what is that?
Spiro - Spironolactone
HCTZ - HydroCholoroThiaZide
Both are diuretics. Spiro is used for antiandrogenic effects, but HCTZ is used strictly for blood pressure. I am prescribed and take both.
Quote from: ImagineKate on February 15, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
I can't stand up and pee anymore. It's hard and I kinda have to pull it out and stretch it first. So I just sit. When I go to a public restroom I kinda have to sit but at home I took a shortcut especially at night when I'm groggy and have a spiro/HCTZ induced pee.
Quote from: mac1 on February 20, 2015, 10:57:05 AM
"spiro/HCTZ" - what is that?
Quote from: ImagineKate on February 20, 2015, 11:02:49 AM
Spiro - Spironolactone
HCTZ - HydroCholoroThiaZide
Both are diuretics. Spiro is used for antiandrogenic effects, but HCTZ is used strictly for blood pressure. I am prescribed and take both.
Ok I was confused. The way you used it I thought it was some device to help you pee.
I didn't even know this whole issue existed. I feel opposite of all of you. No shrinkage, no changes at all down there actually, just less spontaneous erections and such. Tucking is like, impossibly uncomfortable for me. I'm only at 7 months HRT, but from what I hear about depth after SRS I really don't want it to shrink! I'll deal with with it til then, I've already dealt with it for 23 years what's 1 or 2 more?