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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: stephaniec on May 20, 2015, 06:54:36 PM

Poll
Question: # of trans individuals have you encoutered not on the internet.
Option 1: 0 votes: 8
Option 2: 1-3 votes: 20
Option 3: 3-5 votes: 6
Option 4: 5-10 votes: 7
Option 5: > 10 votes: 46
Title: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 20, 2015, 06:54:36 PM
I was just wondering how many trans individuals that you know of have you encountered through out your life. I personally worked with a trans man for 3 years and work in the Boys Town area of Chicago for a long time. I've seen quite a few trans people in my life and I just saw one pass by the restaurant window I'm sitting in at the moment. I think slowly our presence is becoming noticeable . Do you regularly , that you know of, encounter trans as you live your daily life.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: katrinaw on May 20, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
I answered as who I know or have communicated with, which is 2 i recall one at a major software company, worked with for a week or so, just can't recall her name, the other is a dear friend of mine who I have worked with and know outside of work for many years... Over 10 at least!
She's one of my network of support people.

Seen many, many more around my travels....

L Katy
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 20, 2015, 07:16:59 PM
sorry, I'm getting addicted to graphing data about our transgender community. so far we seem to follow quite normal patterns . We're about 80% classic Bell Curve an 20.% inverse Bell Curve. I don't know if that means anything though
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Ms Grace on May 20, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
Apart from a number of Sydney girls (7 or 9) who use this forum and who I've met face to face....

I've known a trans guy for about 12 years, he was pre transition when I met him, started transition about six years ago now I think.

I worked with a trans woman who was pre transition and wasn't out - I only found out about her a few years after she moved to another job and transitioned there. Haven't kept in touch though.

I know about three more women socially, two who I see regularly.

And of course there's a number (male and female) I've encountered in the endo's office and at the gender centre or walking down the street. Sometimes it feels like I can't three steps without tripping over a trans person!! ;)
Title: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: iKate on May 20, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
I know three trans women personally outside of people I met on Susan's. Of those three two I met on an Internet forum. The other I met in my ham radio club. I also have seen Jowelle DeSouza in person in Trinidad. So that makes 2 outside of the net and four outside of Susan's. I'm sure I've encountered more without realizing it. I met one hobby/fetish cross dresser who identifies male but likes women's clothes but I'm assuming you're not counting those.

Edit: okay I did not count my electrologist, laser tech, one of her clients I chatted with and my nurse practitioner.

So that's 8 outside of Susan's and 6 outside of the net. Wow!
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Erica_Y on May 20, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
The first Trans person I met was ME, other than that outside of the local support group none to my knowledge in day to day life work or social.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Jill F on May 20, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
I'd say over 25 for sure.  I've even had 8 of them over for dinner. 

They were delicious. 
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Devlyn on May 20, 2015, 07:37:34 PM
I've met about seven Susanites, and TDOR Boston is attended by hundreds of transgender people.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Marly on May 20, 2015, 07:43:58 PM
I've met three.
the first was a casual friend, who came out rather suddenly. I remember being in awe since I always wanted such for myself. The second was actually someone I met through a friend who was also just beginning HRT. The third was a contact with a gal who was well-advanced but still pre-op.
Through my therapist, I may be meeting a fourth (if she is willing) since she works for the same organization that I do, and I have concerns about policy vs. work environment. I really don't want to be a disruption. But as my therapist helped me sort out, its no more disruptive than I was when arrived there on my first day of work :)
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Mariah on May 20, 2015, 07:44:55 PM
3, if you don't include any I met at support Groups in the Seattle area. One relative, 1 friend, and one complete stranger shopping.
Mariah
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Laura_Squirrel on May 20, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Jill F on May 20, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
I'd say over 25 for sure.  I've even had 8 of them over for dinner. 

They were delicious.

:D :D *rimshot*

I ran into one transchick when I was grocery shopping. She was a pretty big girl. But, you see that a lot in farm country. So, I didn't think anything of it. (No, I don't mean big as in "fat"..like myself :D). We both reached for something in the same freezer. I said, "Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead." She replied, "You're fine" in what was clearly a male voice. I didn't react to it. I just said, "Okay" and got what I needed. I felt bad for her because I know people around here can be real jerks. I went through it when my voice wasn't the best. But, she did have a couple of guys that were there with her. So, it was good that she had some friends.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: amber roskamp on May 20, 2015, 08:11:14 PM
I think I know like 30. I go to lots of groups and trans events. Lansing is like the center of my state so we have lots of activists meetings that draw people from around the state. Most my facebook friends are trans people. But I only have like 60 friends on there.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Stevie on May 20, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
Went to a conference in Marin county back in 2008, there were at lest 200 hundred there. Also one of my sons is FTM.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Rachel on May 20, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
At group there is 20 or s each week but half change from week to week. Overall from group I meet 150. At the PTHC there are 3000 on a given day with an overall 5000 for the 3 days. In the gayborhood I see many.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Kellam on May 20, 2015, 08:28:31 PM
Just day to day normal life I have known or noticed more than a few trans folk over the years. One such woman was a co worker and is still around part of my social circle. She has been very sweet to me over the years though we were never close. I'm pretty sure she knew about me, or guessed to be more accurate. She certainly hit on me once. I would be closer with her now but she is a bartender and spends her free time in that world too. I'm 3.5 years without a drink and being around booze is difficult for me. Or perhaps I am just making excuses. Anyway, the greater Boston area is a diverse place. A good place to transition.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: kittenpower on May 20, 2015, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Jill F on May 20, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
I'd say over 25 for sure.  I've even had 8 of them over for dinner. 

They were delicious.

"With fava beans and a nice chianti", I presume   :D
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 20, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
well, to clarify I only know one other trans person on a level of friendship. All the other trans people are people I recognize as trans or have had minor communication with on a street corner. I really need to be more in contact with other transgender . I guess that's mainly what I use Susan's for is to get to know about other transgender.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 20, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: kittenpower on May 20, 2015, 09:21:48 PM
"With fava beans and a nice chianti", I presume   :D
I think tequila is a better choice with fava beans
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: marsh monster on May 20, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
A crap load over the years. Met some that I was friends with online initially. Some I knew from a  bar when I lived in Charlotte back in the early 90's.  Also been to a few group meetings in my own state. A big party thing held by a friend in DC, been to First Event years ago along with Spring Fling that same year. I can't give the exact amount since I don't have enough fingers and toes to count them all...
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 20, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
I am with 60 every month and have met a few from here ( Eva, Aleana and a few others). At special events that can go as high as 300 or so. :)
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 21, 2015, 12:24:49 AM
Update looks like are poll is approaching a cosine wave
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: CollieLass on May 21, 2015, 12:52:13 AM
To my certain knowledge; one elder-transitioner, briefly met in the waiting area at a hospital in 1979.

Of course, I may have encountered several {or many} without realising it.......as so many girls like myself, spend years 'invisibly' living their lives.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: SonadoraXVX on May 21, 2015, 03:55:29 AM
Maybe a 100 or so in Hollywood,CA over a period of 20 years, known maybe 5 of those, kept in touch with one, but lost touch with her, she was my electrologist :)
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Sammy on May 21, 2015, 05:10:39 AM
I have met in real life someone who was on this forum, then I intentionally met a transwoman who sort of gave me initial "briefing" on how things are working here, then I met three transpeople in the local support group (which lasted for two sessions only because nobody would come) - one of them was nontransitioner, another was still under 18 and living with non-accepting parents, and the last one was being gate-keeped on HRT prescription.
Then I accidentaly met a girl in pharmacy where I came for estrogen (she was working there as assistant-pharmacist) - I clocked her but did not make that apparent, and she most probably understood why I was after E too - we exchanged chatter which more friendly than usual chat between clerk and client, smiled at each other and that was it. I never met her in that pharmacy again and hope that all is well in her life.
also met two persons who were not sure about themselves - just to give them some advice and encouragement (we met for a cup of coffee), but I never heard of them again so I am not very eager to jump on labeling them as trans.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 21, 2015, 05:57:28 AM
There was another girl who was a beautician at a place by a bus stop I use to catch my bus to go to work. She would always say hi to me for some reason and I would reply in kind. Than I started seeing her at the bus stop I got off at to go to work. I worked in an area called Boys Town because the LGBT community lives there. We never met outside of those two places , but she was always very friendly and we'd talk a little. Maybe she saw something in me screaming transgender , I don't know.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Zoetrope on May 21, 2015, 06:51:00 AM
Probably many more than I realise, since there will always be plenty of secretly trans people. There could be people working with me ....

Now that gets you wondering, doesn't it? :~]
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on May 21, 2015, 06:57:01 AM
would be something if 50% of all females were really trans
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Emileeeee on May 21, 2015, 08:10:44 AM
I didn't include in person support group meetings in my selection. That would have easily put it over 10. I only included people I had contact with in day to day life, and that's 1.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Mai on May 21, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
personally, i only know and talk to 1.  i dont count the ones from the center i go to or it'd be alot higher
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Alexis79 on May 21, 2015, 10:05:43 AM
I dont know where all of you find everyone...i have met....zero. unfortunately, my industry has little exposure to anyone at work but cismales, and i dont get out much due to so much time slent at work, and then with the direct family. I also think being in rural utah certainly applies to not much likelihood of exposure...maybe i should get out more?
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Jayne on May 21, 2015, 10:53:16 AM
I've met 2 fellow Bristolian transmen who used to frequent this forum.
Due to being a bit of an activist on trans matters in this fine town i've lost count of the number of trans people i've met over the last year, i'd guestimate that i've met around 20 trans people in the last 12 months.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: ErinWDK on May 21, 2015, 01:42:19 PM
In conferences, support groups, and at the gender center I have met way over ten - as in hundreds.  That is real life rather than over the Internet so I voted more than ten.  For normal day to day living that drops to three I know about.  There would be more who are living stealth but I won't count them.


Erin
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Cadence Jean on May 21, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
I know 30+ from the support group that I helped found a couple years ago. Slowly meeting more as members of the community here begin connecting together.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: MyKa on May 21, 2015, 04:03:21 PM
I only know of a couple. The lady who did my electrolysis transitioned in her 50's
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: big kim on May 21, 2015, 05:01:53 PM
Loads probably some I don't know about as well.It was the late 70s(78 I think) before I met another M2F
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 21, 2015, 06:16:48 PM
Only counting those I know from their own confirmation were trans (so not the two women who were very tall with facial hair and manly voices I've run across in public in the past few months, for example), perhaps a couple dozen. If we exclude those I met in Montreal, who are not exactly a fair representation of my daily life, maybe half that.

About 4-5 trans men and 8-9 trans women, I think. Of that, I'm close friends and meet up with 3 other trans women regularly.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Urban Christina on May 21, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
I know only one which is Abby from on here.  I live in a small city but it turned out she's only half an hour way from me. Small world! There are a few others in my city but don't know them personally.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Trini on May 22, 2015, 12:01:55 AM
Surprisingly my three close best friends are trans along with myself and we talk and hangout all the time. LMAO!
Three MtF's (including me) and one FtM.

It's pretty cool that we have something in common. :p
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Felix on May 22, 2015, 04:13:29 AM
Sorry I'm not the right orientation for this thread but I thought I'd chime in that I've met lots and lots and lots. I live in a city that is known to be a safe haven for trans people, but I also met a ton of mtf women when I lived in the south, mostly in Louisiana.

Most trans people I bumble into in real life are in normal situations like grocery stores or public transit or whatever and I don't know any safe and respectful way to say hi or give them props, so I just act like I didn't notice.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: judithlynn on October 27, 2015, 12:09:33 AM
I have the luck to meet more than 10 other Transwomen, most of whom are quite amazing.  Most of the women that I have met are in the United Kingdom, in the United States or in Australia.

I occasionally get to the Alphabet Soup gathering in Melbourne (third Tuesday of the month), but its the amazing women that I have met since joining Susans that I always feel inspired by.

I want to give a special mention to Eva Marie and JillP in Ventura County and Studio City in California (and Jill's really wonderful wife Katherine), my girlfriend Breanne in Banning California , Ms Grace, & Catherine Sarah in Sydney and of course my dear fried Cindy in Adelaide. In the United Kingdom its Padma in Exeter, Tracey, Carol & Susan in Torquay, Mia in London, Jane in Bournemouth and many others.

Unfortunately despite spending a long weekend in Berlin I missed Lara Knuth, although I did get to go to the excellent club she recommended and unfortunately because of her work commitments I was'nt able to meet up with Jennygirl in the US.
Judith
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: noleen111 on October 27, 2015, 01:50:16 AM
I personally dont know any, besides myself.

But.. I have interacting with at least 2. There is a this trans-lady (She apparently post-op, a client mentioned it) that comes past my shop almost on daily basis, I take it she works in the area. She is more mature lady and the way she dresses makes her stand out. She loves to wear over the top clothing, she looks like she going to the ball everyday and makes her standout.

And once in a mall I saw a crossdresser, who never passed. If you gonna apply makeup, at least shave first, otherwise the rest of the outfit was fine.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Dankster on October 27, 2015, 02:03:30 AM
Lost count. On average, I see maybe 5-10 a month living in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Rejennyrated on October 27, 2015, 02:28:53 AM
Hundreds...

A few as friends - many hundreds in the course of my various jobs, which have included engineering, broadasting and now medicine, and also in my capacity as a volunteer counsellor & support worker.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: stephaniec on October 27, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
I've know 1 personally, 1 as a semi acquaintance , 1 as someone that works in the neighborhood   I live in , but have never talked to and  a whole lot when I use to work in Boys Town Chicago going to work and seeing all the sex works at night.
Title: Re: How many trans people outside of the internet have you encoutered in real life
Post by: Tessa James on October 27, 2015, 12:48:15 PM
I feel very fortunate to have been involved with the LGBTQ community all my long adult life.  I have known and worked with transgender people and some of the girls i met here are among my very best friends and have saved me a number of times.   We have so much in common and especially that need to talk about our transition stuff more than our SOs might like to hear. Hey they deserve a break. ;D

The trans women I first met were, unfortunately for my understanding, rigidly and stereotypically, into the binary while I was dismissed as just a wana be dabbler.  They also seemed like very needy, obsessive girls that could suck the oxygen from any gathering.  I couldn't be one of them, could I?  Yup, I am one of those needy and obsessive girls!

It has opened my eyes to know other transgender stories and narratives that don't fit the standard.  I meet plenty of gay and straight men that like to cross dress too.  I also feel fortunate to know quite a few trans men that also contribute so much to understanding perspectives.  I will never forget the first big public LGBT meeting in the City of Minneapolis, about 1975.  A pretty dark haired person with a beard was sporting a darling red dress!  How brave!

The last time I was at a big city Q Ctr trans meeting the group featured a woman who owned her own company and was traveling to Thailand for "the works," a girl who was voted homecoming queen, a homeless person who turned tricks and another person who was there with her case worker as chaperone.  We are so very diverse within our community even!

What a joy to get to know YOU!