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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 25, 2015, 09:45:11 AM

Title: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 25, 2015, 09:45:11 AM
This Is ALL TRUE.
If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman:

- I will be a very comfortable post op lesbian transwoman. I can and will actually like taking pictures. Others could watch me doing intemete stuff, and I would be comfortable and even like that. 

- I will be a physically affectionate and touchy feely post top transwoman.

- I would show some skin. Never hide the arms. Sometimes show some leg, or upper back, or belly & lower back.

- When I'm a post op transwoman, I want to be a fat woman. I will gain alot of weight after becoming post op. My genetics and the hormone therapy will send alot of fat in my butt. Hopefully I will get a big belly, back fat, thick thighs, and thick arms too.

- When I'm a post op transwoman, I will enjoy getting sweaty. The hormone therapy will make me smell like a woman. It's the hormones that make born-a-girl women smell womanly, and born-a-boy men smell manly. A transwoman on hormones will smell womanly.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 05:40:24 AM
Oh come on. I joined this forum so I could talk about this with humans who are not going to just ignore me, and guess what, I'm getting ignored.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: suzifrommd on November 26, 2015, 06:13:14 AM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 05:40:24 AM
Oh come on. I joined this forum so I could talk about this with humans who are not going to just ignore me, and guess what, I'm getting ignored.

Sorry Stephanie, didn't mean to ignore you. I read your post and thought about it, but just didn't have much to add.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 06:52:02 AM
Quote from: suzifrommd on November 26, 2015, 06:13:14 AM
Sorry Stephanie, didn't mean to ignore you. I read your post and thought about it, but just didn't have much to add.

I was being a baby because I have nobody to talk about this stuff anymore.

Me and my girlfriend broke up yesterday (she is okay with me being a lesbian pre op transwoman, and she is loving and accepting) and now, I don't really have anyone to talk about this stuff.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: suzifrommd on November 26, 2015, 08:35:57 AM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 06:52:02 AM
I was being a baby because I have nobody to talk about this stuff anymore.

Me and my girlfriend broke up yesterday (she is okay with me being a lesbian pre op transwoman, and she is loving and accepting) and now, I don't really have anyone to talk about this stuff.

Ouch. Break-ups are painful now matter who or how.  I hope you're finding ways to be good to yourself.

I hear 'ya about not having someone to talk to. I'm not exactly in the same boat (I'm post-op) but I do know what it's like not to have anyone to talk to about this. I'm clueless how to meet, attract, and form relationships with women as a woman, and after years of attempting to date I have had no success. I wish I had someone who could talk to me about lesbian dating from an informed point of view.

All I can offer is a hug.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: kittenpower on November 26, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 05:40:24 AM
Oh come on. I joined this forum so I could talk about this with humans who are not going to just ignore me, and guess what, I'm getting ignored.
Have you read your post?
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Laura_7 on November 26, 2015, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 06:52:02 AM
I was being a baby because I have nobody to talk about this stuff anymore.

Me and my girlfriend broke up yesterday (she is okay with me being a lesbian pre op transwoman, and she is loving and accepting) and now, I don't really have anyone to talk about this stuff.

Well have a *hug*

Sometimes its also dependent on when a post is made.
Its possible at certain times of the day fewer people are around, and the post drops down the list slowly.

Well... you might talk about what you feel right now... sometimes writing helps...

Well... concerning body changes its something cis people seem not to appreciate that much... so its an advantage if it can be appreciated...

its well possible breasts fill out a little...
and the backside...

and you might have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,199480.msg1774230.html#msg1774230

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190328.msg1695279.html#msg1695279

by the way there is also a chat on susans.

hugs

Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on November 26, 2015, 08:35:57 AM
Ouch. Break-ups are painful now matter who or how.  I hope you're finding ways to be good to yourself.

I hear 'ya about not having someone to talk to. I'm not exactly in the same boat (I'm post-op) but I do know what it's like not to have anyone to talk to about this. I'm clueless how to meet, attract, and form relationships with women as a woman, and after years of attempting to date I have had no success. I wish I had someone who could talk to me about lesbian dating from an informed point of view.

All I can offer is a hug.

Thank You Very Very Very Much.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on November 26, 2015, 02:31:46 PM
Well have a *hug*

Sometimes its also dependent on when a post is made.
Its possible at certain times of the day fewer people are around, and the post drops down the list slowly.

Well... you might talk about what you feel right now... sometimes writing helps...

Well... concerning body changes its something cis people seem not to appreciate that much... so its an advantage if it can be appreciated...

its well possible breasts fill out a little...
and the backside...

and you might have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,199480.msg1774230.html#msg1774230

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190328.msg1695279.html#msg1695279

by the way there is also a chat on susans.

hugs

Thank You Very Very Very Much.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: kittenpower on November 26, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
Have you read your post?

If I was a born-a-girl  lesbian woman and I have the same personality.
Some humans would consider be very weird.

Alot of born-a-girl  women want to be and then become a fat woman.

Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Rejennyrated on November 26, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
The thing is I've been a post-op lesbian for well over 30 years...

Lets just say that post did not entirely resonate with my reality. If it makes you happy then thats really great, but to me it read like a fantasy that I couldn't identify with or perhaps even correctly understand.

I'm not saying that you are wrong to feel that way, far from it, merely trying to explain why I personally did not respond. You clearly shared something precious to you. Unfortunately with the best will in the world we can't all share that mindset, but we do not mean to be rude or ignore you in not responding.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 26, 2015, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Rejennyrated on November 26, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
The thing is I've been a post-op lesbian for well over 30 years...

Lets just say that post did not entirely resonate with my reality. If it makes you happy then thats really great, but to me it read like a fantasy that I couldn't identify with or perhaps even correctly understand.

I'm not saying that you are wrong to feel that way, far from it, merely trying to explain why I personally did not respond. You clearly shared something precious to you. Unfortunately with the best will in the world we can't all share that mindset, but we do not mean to be rude or ignore you in not responding.

I've been extra sensitive today, because me and my girlfriend broke up.
I really enjoy talking about me post op.
If and hopefully when that happens, my life will be far much better.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 01:42:05 PM
My hopes for this forum were too high.

As usual on an internet forum, nobody has little to say on things I say, like now.
Other times others get upset with me.

Doesn't seem like I'm going to get friends here either.

I had to be a big baby for anyone to say something to me.

I don't want to have to beg to get others to talk to me.
I may end up just giving up on this forum too.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 01:42:05 PM
My hopes for this forum were too high.

As usual on an internet forum, nobody has little to say on things I say, like now.
Other times others get upset with me.

Doesn't seem like I'm going to get friends here either.

I had to be a big baby for anyone to say something to me.

I don't want to have to beg to get others to talk to me.
I may end up just giving up on this forum too.

Well just say exactly what you have as question...
or state a few emotions, so people can relate better...

have you read a few of the links, did they help you get a clearer view ?


hugs
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
Well just say exactly what you have as question...
or state a few emotions, so people can relate better...

have you read a few of the links, did they help you get a clearer view ?


hugs

Yes I read it and thank you for the links.

I'll try to do that you said.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Paige_tara on November 27, 2015, 02:12:18 PM
Just going to point out... your post at the start was just a list of statements. Statements are hard to respond to, if not impossible.
If you want to build a conversation you need to be asking questions or write in a way that is open to other people's options or views.
Re-read your first post and try to think if and how you would respond to that from another persons perspective. I was another person that read it but didn't know how to respond or add anything to it, as I believe a lot of people did until you made others feel bad for ignoring you.

I do hope you settle in well here, there's a really great bunch of people that will give you endless help whenever you ask for it. The key is to ask, no throw statements out into the Internet, and I promise you'll suddenly feel so much better about being here!

I wish you all the best, and hope you enjoy your future engagement on this forum :) *hugs*

P x
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
Quote from: Paige_tara on November 27, 2015, 02:12:18 PM
Just going to point out... your post at the start was just a list of statements. Statements are hard to respond to, if not impossible.
If you want to build a conversation you need to be asking questions or write in a way that is open to other people's options or views.
Re-read your first post and try to think if and how you would respond to that from another persons perspective. I was another person that read it but didn't know how to respond or add anything to it, as I believe a lot of people did until you made others feel bad for ignoring you.

I do hope you settle in well here, there's a really great bunch of people that will give you endless help whenever you ask for it. The key is to ask, no throw statements out into the Internet, and I promise you'll suddenly feel so much better about being here!

I wish you all the best, and hope you enjoy your future engagement on this forum :) *hugs*

P x

I was being a baby again. Very recently I've had experiences of being purposely ignored.

Before I wasn't so cynical to quickly assume others are purposely ignoring me.
I use to give others a very long period of the benefit of a doubt, but after awhile they prove they were indeed purposely ignoring me.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Paige_tara on November 27, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
I'm sorry to hear you've had such experiences in the past. But you don't need to worry here, no one will intentionally ignore you, and everyone will help if they can. If you don't get responses that's not the same as being ignored, that's just a sign that no one has anything to say that they feel would be beneficial to your post or the conversation :)

P x
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: Paige_tara on November 27, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
I'm sorry to hear you've had such experiences in the past. But you don't need to worry here, no one will intentionally ignore you, and everyone will help if they can. If you don't get responses that's not the same as being ignored, that's just a sign that no one has anything to say that they feel would be beneficial to your post or the conversation :)

P x

Thank you very very very much.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
Thank you very very very much.

Well... now you could add some more...
how it makes you feel..
what you think...

so people have something to respond to...  :)


hugs

Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
Well... now you could add some more...
how it makes you feel..
what you think...

so people have something to respond to...  :)


hugs

Do you mean add more to this topic too ???

I had held saying some stuff. Didn't want to expose all my, so call by some "weird stuff", all at once.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
Do you mean add more to this topic too ???

I had held saying some stuff. Didn't want to expose all my, so call by some "weird stuff", all at once.

Well I meant your response.

Its like open questions...
in conversation not asking questions which can be answered with a simple yes or no...

If you ask something and the reply is a simple yes or no there is not much conversation.
If the reply is something where emotions are added... a viewpoint.. a few more thoughts... then people have something to respond to  :)


hugs
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: LizK on November 27, 2015, 04:10:02 PM
I am Pre-op on the cusp of jumping off, just marking time for the date to happen and the Dr appointment can be attended.

The only goal I have at the moment is to be happy and comfortable in my own skin.

I have just lost 15kg (about 33 pound) with about another 12 pound to go, so when I read about someone wanting to be a "fat trans woman" it does not inspire or interest me.

As my mother used to say "if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything" rather than enter into a topic that does not interest me, I move on and leave it for those who do have an interest. No hard feelings :)

Hugs

Sarah T
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: suzifrommd on November 27, 2015, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
I was being a baby again. Very recently I've had experiences of being purposely ignored.

Before I wasn't so cynical to quickly assume others are purposely ignoring me.
I use to give others a very long period of the benefit of a doubt, but after awhile they prove they were indeed purposely ignoring me.


Usually, I find I need to have posts up for a day or two to get a lot of replies. Unless I ask a really easy question, not everyone will have something to say.

I really hope you stay around and let us get to know you. I've learned an incredible amount from this site and gotten a lot of support.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on November 27, 2015, 05:47:57 PM
Usually, I find I need to have posts up for a day or two to get a lot of replies. Unless I ask a really easy question, not everyone will have something to say.

I really hope you stay around and let us get to know you. I've learned an incredible amount from this site and gotten a lot of support.

I'm not occustom to getting support from internet forum. Thank You Very Much.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 08:02:48 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on November 27, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
Well I meant your response.

Its like open questions...
in conversation not asking questions which can be answered with a simple yes or no...

If you ask something and the reply is a simple yes or no there is not much conversation.
If the reply is something where emotions are added... a viewpoint.. a few more thoughts... then people have something to respond to  :)

Thank You. I'll try that.

hugs
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 27, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: sarahtokes on November 27, 2015, 04:10:02 PM
I am Pre-op on the cusp of jumping off, just marking time for the date to happen and the Dr appointment can be attended.

The only goal I have at the moment is to be happy and comfortable in my own skin.

I have just lost 15kg (about 33 pound) with about another 12 pound to go, so when I read about someone wanting to be a "fat trans woman" it does not inspire or interest me.

As my mother used to say "if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything" rather than enter into a topic that does not interest me, I move on and leave it for those who do have an interest. No hard feelings :)

Hugs

Sarah T

While I'm pre op. I keep my body thin. Making myself as invisible as possible. In this "man's body", I doesn't want show it's features.

Post op, in a woman's body, I want to show up the bodily features. Be very visible.
I am very sexually attracted to fat woman, and I would sexually enjoy being one.

No hard feelings. Every woman is different.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Qrachel on November 27, 2015, 10:51:36 PM
Read the entire thread . . . Glad you posted and encourage you to continue to do so.

Sorry you felt ignored and also doubt that you were.  Hopefully, you'll find us an engaging and wholesome group and a great place to hangout. 

I think I get your initial post - I found myself in your words several times, but being full time for 15 years and post-op for 11 I've learned that a lot of the deep and important things about my transition didn't occur quite as I imagined.  I think it's the unknown part of being a woman that causes this, and being a woman newly begins to open pathways and states of being that the masculine simply cannot not grasp - even if told about them.  I found that discovery process so thrilling and life giving.  I hope you have similar experiences; they are beyond words.

Take care and stay in touch,

Rachel
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 28, 2015, 05:59:36 AM
Quote from: Qrachel on November 27, 2015, 10:51:36 PM
Read the entire thread . . . Glad you posted and encourage you to continue to do so.

Sorry you felt ignored and also doubt that you were.  Hopefully, you'll find us an engaging and wholesome group and a great place to hangout. 

I think I get your initial post - I found myself in your words several times, but being full time for 15 years and post-op for 11 I've learned that a lot of the deep and important things about my transition didn't occur quite as I imagined.  I think it's the unknown part of being a woman that causes this, and being a woman newly begins to open pathways and states of being that the masculine simply cannot not grasp - even if told about them.  I found that discovery process so thrilling and life giving.  I hope you have similar experiences; they are beyond words.

Take care and stay in touch,

Rachel

Thank You Very Very Very Much.

I'm curious, which part reminded you of you ?
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Jenna Marie on November 28, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Yes, I'm sorry, but I'm better with answering questions than guessing what people want - I tend to guess wrong. ;)

Anyway, the good news is, you also don't need an expensive and complicated surgery to achieve a lot of that.  I ended up smelling nice and getting the serious fat redistribution on HRT alone, and I honestly felt that I had finished transition and was living comfortably as a woman/in a woman's body well before I was post-op. You may be surprised by the magic HRT can work.

(I'm a post-op bisexual trans woman in an apparently lesbian marriage; not quite what you envision, but for all intents and purposes I'm a lesbian in my daily life, since I'm not going to cheat on my wife.)
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 28, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on November 28, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Yes, I'm sorry, but I'm better with answering questions than guessing what people want - I tend to guess wrong. ;)

Anyway, the good news is, you also don't need an expensive and complicated surgery to achieve a lot of that.  I ended up smelling nice and getting the serious fat redistribution on HRT alone, and I honestly felt that I had finished transition and was living comfortably as a woman/in a woman's body well before I was post-op. You may be surprised by the magic HRT can work.

(I'm a post-op bisexual trans woman in an apparently lesbian marriage; not quite what you envision, but for all intents and purposes I'm a lesbian in my daily life, since I'm not going to cheat on my wife.)

I want the vagina and the "female" voice. Need surgeries for that. I'll take the risky, quick, and lazy method, getting vocal surgery, instead of trying to get it threw voice training.

I need facial surgeries too.
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Qrachel on November 29, 2015, 02:53:36 AM
Dear S. S.:

Quote from: Stephanie Sammantha on November 25, 2015, 09:45:11 AM
This Is ALL TRUE.
If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman:

- I will be a very comfortable post op lesbian transwoman. I can and will actually like taking pictures. Others could watch me doing intemete stuff, and I would be comfortable and even like that. 

Being comfortable is a blessing - what was surprising was all the little things in life before transition that seemed slightly off just one after another re-framed themselves into something that often provided an intuitive and nascent insight to conversation across the gender divide that occurs automatically and often reflexively such that we don't even realize it happened.  My body aspirations were different but I wasn't afraid to pretty public about my transition and my surgery/transition was filmed and broadcast by one of the large networks.  It as nominated for an Emmy.

- I will be a physically affectionate and touchy feely post top transwoman.


Yep, really a huge turnaround for me here, thank goodness!!!

- I would show some skin. Never hide the arms. Sometimes show some leg, or upper back, or belly & lower back.

- When I'm a post op transwoman, I want to be a fat woman. I will gain alot of weight after becoming post op. My genetics and the hormone therapy will send alot of fat in my butt. Hopefully I will get a big belly, back fat, thick thighs, and thick arms too.

- When I'm a post op transwoman, I will enjoy getting sweaty. The hormone therapy will make me smell like a woman. It's the hormones that make born-a-girl women smell womanly, and born-a-boy men smell manly. A transwoman on hormones will smell womanly.

I notice that I acquired "The Scent Of A Woman" when I startd HRT.  I can no longer notice but it was one of the most thrilling aspects of HRT>

I'd be surprised if many new girls here didn't have similar expereinces.

Take good care,

Rachel
Title: Re: If And Hopefully When I'm A Post Op Lesbian Transwoman.
Post by: Stephanie Sammantha on November 29, 2015, 03:44:20 AM
Quote from: Qrachel on November 29, 2015, 02:53:36 AM
Dear S. S.:

I'd be surprised if many new girls here didn't have similar expereinces.

Take good care,

Rachel

Thank You Very Very Very Much.

I have an urge to tell you just how comfortable I would be post op given everything goes smoothly.
I'm resisting that urge unless you would like to know.

I'm trying not to rush things too much on this forum.