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Title: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 08:55:14 PM
O.k. everytime I have gotten on HRT, I for some reason cannot get enough cheese. I want cheese cubes, fried cheese, sliced cheese, cream cheese, grated, chopped, melted, dipped, dunked, covered, coated, canned, and food surrounded with cheese. What gives?

I think about cheese, (no I don't cut it so don't go there), dream about cheese and think "Where can I get my next of cheese fix"? Is it boob food? Is my ever expanding ass and thighs screaming for more? I have gone from obsessing about transition to obsessing about cheese. I'd like to go to the hospital and get a cheese drip because my jaw is sore from eating cheese....I'd continue writing but its time to go get some more.

Is it just me or has anybody experienced this phenomenon?
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: tinkerbell on October 16, 2007, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Lori on October 16, 2007, 08:55:14 PM
Is it boob food? Is my ever expanding ass and thighs screaming for more? I have gone from obsessing about transition to obsessing about cheese. I'd like to go to the hospital and get a cheese drip because my jaw is sore from eating cheese....I'd continue writing but its time to go get some more.

Is it just me or has anybody experienced this phenomenon?

ROFL  ;D :D  I think it's you, hon.  I used to crave sweets more than anything when I was on my massive dosage of HRT.  Not anymore though but sometimes I would make some pancakes in the middle of the night....  ;)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 09:01:21 PM
LoL, maybe I'll try pancakes next time instead of climbing into the bottom of a bag of grated cheese and chewing my way out.
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:04:09 PM
I was like that before HRT, and still am!  I throw cheese on just about anything I cook.  And sometimes bacon.  I also crave pickles every now and then.



Now I want to eat a pickle...
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:04:09 PM
I was like that before HRT, and still am!  I throw cheese on just about anything I cook.  And sometimes bacon.  I also crave pickles every now and then.



Now I want to eat a pickle...

Hee hee...I bury my salads under cheese and ..Bacon bits..those real ones from Hormel. Yummy. I just cannot believe how much I crave cheese. Its an unsatiable problem and its soo damn fattening....but I need it :icon_help:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kate on October 16, 2007, 09:08:29 PM
Oh you KNOW how I was with cheese in the beginning months of HRT. It's like all I thought about.

I STILL like it, but that obsession eventually faded. I crave meats now, proteins, deli meats, hoagies (for you easterners, lol), sausage...

Which is weird for someone who lives on rice and pasta (no meat sauces) normally.

~Kate~
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:11:06 PM
When you crave cheese have you tried replacing it with something healthier.  I know I shouldn't give advice when I give into my own cravings so easily (I'm eating a pickle now)
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:11:06 PM
When you crave cheese have you tried replacing it with something healthier.  I know I shouldn't give advice when I give into my own cravings so easily (I'm eating a pickle now)

I was thinking it was the calcium or something else in it so I do take supplements...Calcium, folic acid, Vitamin D, and a good Multi Vitamin...oh and Magnesium because Calcium stops you up. I'm reading the empty package of Cheese I just devoured seeing if there is something else I can buy that will replace what my body is needing out of the cheese. At least pickles have no calories so eat as many as you want!!

Posted on: October 16, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: Kate on October 16, 2007, 09:08:29 PM
I crave meats now, proteins, deli meats, hoagies (for you easterners, lol), sausage...

Which is weird for someone who lives on rice and pasta (no meat sauces) normally.

~Kate~

At 14 months HRT at our age..the muscles start to change...you need protein. Feed your body what it needs :)
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:17:08 PM
they have tons of salt though :P
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Sheila on October 16, 2007, 09:21:45 PM
I like cheese too. I have always liked it. I can eat cheese with everything. This was before HRT and still a problem for me. I do get a craving for chocolate. I never had it before but now and again I want a piece of dark chocolate, not cheap stuff, the good stuff. I eat the candy and I'm satisfied for a few weeks, it is so strange.
Sheila
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:28:52 PM
ditto. I don't eat chocolate very often, but I LOVE really good dark chocolate when I do eat it.

edit, sometimes I combine the two.

mmmm Godiva Chocolate Cheesecake
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: Sheila on October 16, 2007, 09:21:45 PM
I like cheese too. I have always liked it. I can eat cheese with everything. This was before HRT and still a problem for me. I do get a craving for chocolate. I never had it before but now and again I want a piece of dark chocolate, not cheap stuff, the good stuff. I eat the candy and I'm satisfied for a few weeks, it is so strange.
Sheila


I'm not there yet....but cheescake with chocolate..omg, get out of my way lol

Posted on: October 16, 2007, 09:40:12 PM
Quote from: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:28:52 PM
mmmm Godiva Chocolate Cheesecake

Oh great...Thanx allot....now I'm heading to the store :( Maybe I can pretend I didnt just read that  :icon_userfriendly:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:46:33 PM
I apologize for making your cheese addiction worse  :'(


Have a pickle. it come with flowers  :icon_bunch:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 16, 2007, 09:51:50 PM
Quote from: Kat on October 16, 2007, 09:46:33 PM
I apologize for making your cheese addiction worse  :'(


Have a pickle. it come with flowers  :icon_bunch:

Aww, its ok..its not your fault I'm weak  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Rashelle on October 16, 2007, 10:21:32 PM
Pickles go well with cheese. heehee
I craved pickled foods for quite awhile. Dill pickles, pickled herring, pickled veggies, kimchi, yum. Luckily for me the Dr. told me to start adding salt to my diet so I eventually started keeping 1-2 gallons of kimchi in the fridge. And that goes well with some cheese too. I don't crave it near as much as I used to anymore. A craving for pickles can be indicative of a vitamin deficiency though. For me it was a craving for the vinegar.
Rashelle
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Butterfly on October 17, 2007, 02:17:01 AM
Does cheesecake count?  I cannot get enough of it. ~laugh~
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: shanetastic on October 17, 2007, 02:22:14 AM
I became a chocolate fan myself.  But I still love cheese!!!  I make a grilled cheese whenever I want something easy and cheesy and delicious!
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Wing Walker on October 17, 2007, 03:18:06 AM
Hi, Lori,

I don't know of any proven connection between estrogen HRT and cheese or other dairy consumption, however...

Potato chips with sour cream dip works for me.  Any cheese besides Limburger is on my list.

I believe that at HRT has the potential to make one's appetite far keener.  I have curves where there weren't any and my jeans fit nicely and show-off my bum (butt to those who believe that a bum can only be a person).

I love fresh-sliced deli cheese in a sandwich or with almost any meats from the deli.  Last night I had a picnic eating garlic salami and lightly-smoked provolone.

Tonight I went out for supper and I had my lasagna fix.  Plenty of cheese there, too.

And I love chocolate.  I had a friend who had a tag line under her pic that read, "Give me the chocolate and no one gets hurt."  LOL!!!

I believe I'll go to the fridge and see what needs my immediate attention.

Wing Walker

Posted on: October 17, 2007, 03:05:41 AM
Chocolate can lower your blood pressure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04chocolate.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04chocolate.html)

Wing Walker

P.S.  Especially good after a grilled cheese with tomato soup made with milk, or pasta, or a grilled steak, or a Philly cheese steak hoagie, or grilled salmon, or a pot of my jambalaya, or...
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 17, 2007, 07:18:23 AM
Quote from: Rashelle on October 16, 2007, 10:21:32 PM
Pickles go well with cheese. heehee
I craved pickled foods for quite awhile. Dill pickles, pickled herring, pickled veggies, kimchi, yum. Luckily for me the Dr. told me to start adding salt to my diet so I eventually started keeping 1-2 gallons of kimchi in the fridge. And that goes well with some cheese too. I don't crave it near as much as I used to anymore. A craving for pickles can be indicative of a vitamin deficiency though. For me it was a craving for the vinegar.
Rashelle

Well guess what. All you pickle eating ladies have gotten my curiosity up and since Pickles are zero calories I'm going to go get the biggest tub of Dill Pickles I can find and see if it will at least put a dent in this crazy cheese craving. I think cheese may be boob food because even in a sports bra I'm getting cleavage at 4 and 1/2 months.



Posted on: October 17, 2007, 07:15:01 AM
Quote from: Butterfly on October 17, 2007, 02:17:01 AM
Does cheesecake count?  I cannot get enough of it. ~laugh~

OMG, this drug rep brought in this cheescake from Costco and it totally blew me away. I don't know if my senses are changing but that was like a slice of pure heavenly bliss. If I could store that short time in a bottle, I'd open it every hour on the hour and relive it. I'm not going there again because the calories are way too high. I need to avoid Costco now :(
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Bobbie on October 17, 2007, 07:35:11 AM
All this talk about cheese is starting me off again, and I'm not even on HRT.

My prob is I had to stop eating it because it was bumping my cholesterol up...now I want some.....arrrgh!
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 17, 2007, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on October 17, 2007, 03:18:06 AM
Hi, Lori,

I don't know of any proven connection between estrogen HRT and cheese or other dairy consumption, however...

Potato chips with sour cream dip works for me.  Any cheese besides Limburger is on my list.

I believe that at HRT has the potential to make one's appetite far keener.  I have curves where there weren't any and my jeans fit nicely and show-off my bum (butt to those who believe that a bum can only be a person).

I love fresh-sliced deli cheese in a sandwich or with almost any meats from the deli.  Last night I had a picnic eating garlic salami and lightly-smoked provolone.

Tonight I went out for supper and I had my lasagna fix.  Plenty of cheese there, too.

And I love chocolate.  I had a friend who had a tag line under her pic that read, "Give me the chocolate and no one gets hurt."  LOL!!!

I believe I'll go to the fridge and see what needs my immediate attention.

Wing Walker

Posted on: October 17, 2007, 03:05:41 AM
Chocolate can lower your blood pressure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04chocolate.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04chocolate.html)

Wing Walker

P.S.  Especially good after a grilled cheese with tomato soup made with milk, or pasta, or a grilled steak, or a Philly cheese steak hoagie, or grilled salmon, or a pot of my jambalaya, or...

Me thinks you are hungry right now LOL.

Posted on: October 17, 2007, 07:36:02 AM
Quote from: Bobbie on October 17, 2007, 07:35:11 AM
All this talk about cheese is starting me off again, and I'm not even on HRT.

My prob is I had to stop eating it because it was bumping my cholesterol up...now I want some.....arrrgh!

Me2.  :eusa_wall: :icon_ashamed:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: tinkerbell on October 17, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Lori, why is this a big problem?  I thought you were on a SEE-FOOD diet!  >:D

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 17, 2007, 07:12:52 PM
Quote from: Tink on October 17, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Lori, why is this a big problem?  I thought you were on a SEE-FOOD diet!  >:D

tink :icon_chick:

It turned into a see cheese diet lol.
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Shana A on October 17, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
mmmm, cheese... I'm not even on hrt and I still love cheese... food of the gods/godesses... even talking about it makes me want to go check if there's any in the fridge....  ;D

Z
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Berliegh on October 18, 2007, 03:12:54 AM
HRT does seem to make you eat more......I used to be very careful with my diet years ago but these days I eat a lot of the bad things like chocolate and cream cakes..
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Jeannette on October 18, 2007, 05:18:17 AM
Cheese is the food of Gods.  Dont over do it or you will be floating like a balloon next time we talk.
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on October 18, 2007, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: y2gender on October 17, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
mmmm, cheese... I'm not even on hrt and I still love cheese... food of the gods/godesses... even talking about it makes me want to go check if there's any in the fridge....  ;D

Z

Yes I admit I really liked it before, but now its like.....crack.



Posted on: October 18, 2007, 07:02:51 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on October 18, 2007, 03:12:54 AM
HRT does seem to make you eat more......I used to be very careful with my diet years ago but these days I eat a lot of the bad things like chocolate and cream cakes..

I'm glad its not just me!! I was looking for an AA for cheese lovers!!

Posted on: October 18, 2007, 07:03:32 AM
Quote from: Jeannette on October 18, 2007, 05:18:17 AM
Cheese is the food of Gods.  Dont over do it or you will be floating like a balloon next time we talk.

I try to limit my calorie intake to 1400-1500 a day and ...well cheese is like huge chunks of calories and fat all mixed into everybite. If would all go to my breasts, hips and thighs....I wouldnt be too upset :)
Title: Extreme sports
Post by: Hypatia on October 18, 2007, 08:23:39 AM
HRT has altered my food cravings significantly. I can't stand anything sweet any more. I have to be careful with sweets because they throw my blood sugar out of whack. Now I crave vegetarian protein of all sorts--cheese not so much, but I go for eggs and yogurt more than ever. I also crave vegetable curry to an extreme degree, vegetarian biryani, vegetarian Thai food, any sort of Asian noodles with tofu, miso soup, veggie-lover pizza with broccoli, minestrone, chili, salsa, gazpacho, green salads--anything savory and not sweet. Spicy vegetables are my favorite food in the world.

Currently my strongest food craving has become hot chili peppers, the hotter the better--preferably habañero. But that's probably less a result of HRT and more a matter of my own sensuousness. Although hot chili peppers have a macho reputation, the two hottest eaters I know, who have influenced me to turn up the heat to blazing, are both women. One woman is trans, makes her own habañero purée that is strong enough to eat through concrete, and she gobbles it like ice cream. The other woman is cisgender, and really goes for the extreme heat--she gave me a bottle of Dave's Insanity Sauce which is made with essential extract of Capsicum. She's just a shy little woman but reduces strong men to gasping and crying for mercy with her ability to consume extreme chilis.

I read in Julia Serano's book Whipping Girl that HRT gave her a strong craving for eggs. I got that too. But when I see her name, all I can think of is she has the same name as a variety of hot chili pepper! Huevos rancheros... mmm....
Title: Re: Extreme sports
Post by: Lori on October 18, 2007, 08:26:44 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 18, 2007, 08:23:39 AM
HRT has altered my food cravings significantly. I can't stand anything sweet any more. I have to be careful with sweets because they throw my blood sugar out of whack. Now I crave vegetarian protein of all sorts--cheese not so much, but I go for eggs more than ever. I also crave vegetable curry to an extreme degree, vegetarian Thai food, any sort of Asian noodles with tofu, miso soup, pizza, pasta, minestrone--anything savory and not sweet. Spicy vegetables are my favorite food in the world.

Currently my strongest food craving has become hot chili peppers, the hotter the better--preferably habañero. But that's probably less a result of HRT and more a matter of my own sensuousness. Although hot chili peppers have a macho reputation, the two hottest eaters I know, who have influenced me to turn up the heat to blazing, are both women.

lol, wow. I dont have any fantasies of whiping my butt with a snowcone to cool things down. I cannot even eat hot sauce, much less all of that. Omg, it would kill me. Thank god I'm hooked on cheese!!
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Shana A on October 18, 2007, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Jeannette on October 18, 2007, 05:18:17 AM
Cheese is the food of Gods.

Jeannette,

Especially the cheese from your part of the world!  :)

Zythyra
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: daisybelle on October 18, 2007, 10:53:10 AM
Being a central texas native ( although I have lived all over ), cheese is a main sample of our diet.  Cheese is in Mexican food, in Italian food, in American food.  We deep fry it ( would post the site but been told not too ), along with chocolate, peanut butter and Bananas, chocolate chip cookie dough, oreos, coke (? - made in a dough), pickles, cheescake, and corndogs.   

But the one thing I crave on a daily basis is a good SALSA.  You know - very flavorful with just the right amount of spice to make you sweat.   And Salsa goes great with Cheese....

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Is it Lunchtime yet!!!

Daisy
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Seshatneferw on October 18, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: Jeannette on October 18, 2007, 05:18:17 AM
Dont over do it or you will be floating like a balloon next time we talk.

And clog your arteries until your heart gives up. But oh, what a way to go...

  Nfr
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on April 10, 2008, 08:17:50 PM
Ok..now its canned cheese (Easy Cheese) Cheddar and/or American flavor...

And Wheat Thins. (Tomato Basil)

I just squirt a little bit on each one...I cannot stop.... :eusa_sick:
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Hypatia on April 11, 2008, 07:28:33 PM
While enjoying a salad at lunch today, I bit down on a chunk of feta cheese and released an ecstatic flavor burst of intensely salty/tart/fatty goodness. By Hera, that stuff has it all. I remembered this thread and all the cheese lovers who've posted here. I get intense cravings for feta and olives now, partly my Hellenic heritage but also I think HRT has shifted my taste preferences dramatically toward things salty, savory, and proteinaceous.

All my senses feel so much more alive on estrogen.
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Lori on April 11, 2008, 07:40:43 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on April 11, 2008, 07:28:33 PM
While enjoying a salad at lunch today, I bit down on a chunk of feta cheese and released an ecstatic flavor burst of intensely salty/tart/fatty goodness. By Hera, that stuff has it all. I remembered this thread and all the cheese lovers who've posted here. I get intense cravings for feta and olives now, partly my Hellenic heritage but also I think HRT has shifted my taste preferences dramatically toward things salty, savory, and proteinaceous.

All my senses feel so much more alive on estrogen.

I'm hung up on cheese popcorn now.......

sigh...What's next?
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: CassandraR on April 12, 2008, 12:03:15 PM
Cheese does have mildly addictive substances in it that trigger the pleasure centers of the brain. :)
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Laura Eva B on April 13, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
Reading this thread has got me rushing to the fridge for a large chunk of Saint Agur with a fistful of rocket / ruccola leaves and a glass of Sauvignon ....

Not sure if my now "sensible" level of hrt triggers food cravings, but I have always loved cheese, especially mature creamy blues, Gorgonzola, Dolcetta, Pont L'Eveque, ripe Stilton !

Oozing Brie / soft sharp Chevre !

Even Cheddar / Red Leicester melted over toasted bread and onion !

Emmental Quiches, Mozzerella Pizzas, Cheese & Bacon Omelettes ?

Always have craved for savoury and calorie infested things which my diet tells me "NO" !  Meat pies, fried chicken, french fries, all become occassional "treats" and are elevated to a level of "craving" ....

So for now Curd / Cottage Cheese / Ricotta / Feta and olives have to do .... and I've not put on a pound all through the four years of my transition / hrt / srs !

Laura x
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Chaunte on April 13, 2008, 01:52:28 PM
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"Cheese!  Let's go someplace where there's cheese!

     Everyone knows the Moon is made out of cheese...."

(From Wallace & Gromit: A Grand Day Out)



Chaunte
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: buttercup on April 13, 2008, 05:09:22 PM
I love cheese, but in very small amounts.  AND I love Wallace and Gromit, I've got them all on DVD!  :laugh:

Wallace: Ah, but I do like a bit of gorgonzola!
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Laura91 on April 13, 2008, 05:52:56 PM
*becomes a cheese craving zombie* CHEEEEEEEEEESE CHEEEEEEEEEEESE must have cheese, pepperjack cheeeeeeeeese.
Title: Re: Cheese
Post by: Berliegh on April 14, 2008, 05:03:06 AM
I don't eat cheese as I have high blood pressure but it's not something I would miss.....now chocolate is a different matter altogether..