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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: jonjon on November 12, 2007, 08:58:32 AM

Title: "It's the hair"
Post by: jonjon on November 12, 2007, 08:58:32 AM
While my hair has been spiked *as is in avi* I've had two people call me a girl and when i've corrected them they've replied with: "Oh, it's the hair."

Meaning... my hair makes me look like a girl

???

I'm not getting it  ???
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Nero on November 12, 2007, 09:02:31 AM
I don't know, Wishy. You have a guy's face for sure. The hair looks fine to me. Maybe it was your voice or something?
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Cire on November 12, 2007, 09:06:01 AM
It's relitivly long, and obviously has alot of work put into the styling. Both very female traits. If it was just a few inches long and spiked, it'd be much more male typical.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Nero on November 12, 2007, 09:28:36 AM
Considering Cire's post - Wishy, I know you tend toward a more androgynous look, but it probably doesn't aid in passing right now. If passing is important, maybe you should concentrate on having an 'average' male appearance until HRT.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Kat on November 12, 2007, 09:45:20 AM
ya, the length probably isn't helping. something closer to this would probably be better, but idk how it'd look on you, sorry  :-\

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.askmen.com%2Ffashion%2Ftrends%2Fpictures%2F13b_fashion_men.JPG&hash=6afb62e5f5a076c2bda4d73d12702acbf9688b42)
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Lisbeth on November 12, 2007, 09:57:06 AM
90% of gender presentation is hair.  Head hair, face hair, body hair.  Change your hair and some people can see a different gender.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Berliegh on November 12, 2007, 10:30:39 AM
You look quite androgenous facially Wishy but I don't think anything is related to hair.......a lot of M to F TS's have long hair but just look more like heavy rockers.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: jonjon on November 12, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
Quote from: Kat on November 12, 2007, 09:45:20 AM
ya, the length probably isn't helping. something closer to this would probably be better, but idk how it'd look on you, sorry  :-\

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.askmen.com%2Ffashion%2Ftrends%2Fpictures%2F13b_fashion_men.JPG&hash=6afb62e5f5a076c2bda4d73d12702acbf9688b42)

There's not a lot of short styles i like. And even if i wanted to cut my hair (which i would just want it trimmed) i cant afford it anyways. I cant even afford wellies for my farm trip at college, nor the card to be able to do assignments.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 12, 2007, 11:24:13 AM
Hi,

   I kind of think the hair is too stylish.  I was wondering how you were getting by people.  I just assumed your demeanor made up for it.

   I have no solution for the no money problem.  Sometimes around here, you can go to a hair styling school and the students will cut it real cheap to get the practice.

   Just so you know, I like your hair.  It probably does get in the way of presenting, though.


Rebis
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Cire on November 12, 2007, 11:56:07 AM
If you just think of the money you'll save in hair spray and products alone, you'll make up the 15-20$ that a regular guy haircut costs easily.

If you want a guy haircut, you can do it yourself easily. Pick up some used hair buzzer at a garage sale (cheaper than a haircut) and buzz the sides to 1/4-1/2" and the top to 2-3". Bam, guy haircut.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Id Est on November 12, 2007, 09:12:20 PM
I think many people here have it right that people assume gender by hair. My best friend has a full and thick beard and long hair past his shoulders, people constantly assume he is female before opening their eyes and seeing the beard and his other masculine features...head hair is prominent in what people see. Hope you find a good solution wishy.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: shanetastic on November 12, 2007, 10:09:33 PM
This is my personal opinion wishy, but I think it's because it's really long that they assume that your a female probably.  I know some guys can pull it off, but most people seem to sterotype guys with long hair as either like beach hippies or like. . . I don't know actually lol.  Maybe you should consider cutting it shorter to see how you enjoy it?  If not it always grows back.  That's my philosophy on hair :D
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 12, 2007, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: shanetastic on November 12, 2007, 10:09:33 PM
This is my personal opinion wishy, but I think it's because it's really long that they assume that your a female probably.  I know some guys can pull it off, but most people seem to sterotype guys with long hair as either like beach hippies or like. . . I don't know actually lol.  Maybe you should consider cutting it shorter to see how you enjoy it?  If not it always grows back.  That's my philosophy on hair :D
Not if it's mine  :'(   :'(   :'(
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: shanetastic on November 12, 2007, 11:18:22 PM
hehe I'm sorry Rebis :(

I made a bad assumption there.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 13, 2007, 07:40:39 AM
It's okay, Shane.

For penance, please give more than you can afford to anyone who promises to come up with a cure for male pattern baldness.   :)
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: shanetastic on November 13, 2007, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: Rebis on November 13, 2007, 07:40:39 AM
It's okay, Shane.

For penance, please give more than you can afford to anyone who promises to come up with a cure for male pattern baldness.   :)

How abouw I just cure it already Rebis gosh :D  Hehe.

Deal though!
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: NickSister on November 13, 2007, 02:28:49 PM
This is totally off topic but I'm just looking at Wishy's little character at the bottom of her posts that says "With this rock I will rule the world". Is it me or that thing a piece of soot from the movie "Spirited Away"?


Oh, back on topic. I like your Sonic hair.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: jonjon on November 15, 2007, 08:49:51 AM
When my hair was this short:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi19.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb193%2Fheavensgaze%2Fme%2Fme616.jpg&hash=5413f48adc34dfd2d72a484b5411fcb2dfeb3610)

I still got told i looked like a girl because of the hair.

Jon cannot win!

>.>

<.<
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Shana A on November 15, 2007, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: wishy on November 15, 2007, 08:49:51 AM
When my hair was this short:

I still got told i looked like a girl because of the hair.

Wishy, I don't see female in these photos, regardless of your hair length.

zythyra
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: melissa90299 on November 15, 2007, 08:56:49 AM
The hairdo is very cool but does look typically female.

What you need is a little facial hair and no one will ever call you a girl.

And at first read, I thought you were MtF and was thinking she has got a long way to go to try to "pass" as a woman.

BTW you are hot!
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Cire on November 15, 2007, 09:59:35 AM
Your second picture is much more passable, but the glasses are so big on your face that they make your face look tiny. To most people, tiny=cute and cute is female. I really do like the haircut, and you do look very attractive.
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 15, 2007, 07:34:29 PM
Stop hitting on Jon, he's mine.   Back off!!!
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: Berliegh on November 16, 2007, 02:17:27 AM
To me in the last pic you look like a young boy......it's not a female hairsyle either..
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: greg-unknown on November 16, 2007, 10:07:29 AM
wishy even though  your face looks male i think you still got called a girl even with short hair because your bangs werent spiked up, women with shorter hair usually do their hair in some fancy way but leave the bangs down on their forehead to look more feminine. most men spike up the bangs with the rest of their hair. but other than that i dont really see why they would call you a girl -_- i just cant see it
Title: Re: "It's the hair"
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on November 16, 2007, 09:55:07 PM
I like the hair personally.  But whateva.