0 = exclusively homosexual 6 = exclusively homosexual
I think I am a 4 at this time, although at various times I seem to sway from a 3 to a 5 whch of course would be a median of 4.
There is a lot of things I like about men and sex with men is very enjoyable (post-op) but sometimes just kissing a woman sends me into seventh heaven, like the earth moves. I NEVER get that feeling from men.
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 16, 2007, 09:41:23 AM
0 = exclusively homosexual 6 = exclusively homosexual
I think I am a 4 at this time, although at various times I seem to sway from a 3 to a 5 whch of course would be a median of 4.
There is a lot of things I like about men and sex with men is very enjoyable (post-op) but sometimes just kissing a woman sends me into seventh heaven, like the earth moves. I NEVER get that feeling from men.
I've heard more then one bi-girl (not necesarily TS) say that they were physically attracted to men, but emotionally attracted to women.
Call me dumb but what is the Kinsey Scale? and where does it originate from? the U.S?
and where do you get your statistics from?
A 5 for me "Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual" no question, although I say I am Bi-sexual my main attraction is toward men. The confusing part is that I identify female, so maybe the test or scale doesn't apply to me, I am just a woman that likes men but is just as comfortable having sex with another woman.
Kinsey ScaleQuote
0 exclusively heterosexual
1 predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homosexual
2 predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual
6 exclusively homosexual
I am a zero, meaning that I am a girl and I am only attracted to men. I don't have any experience with women whatsoever and I don't wanna! :P
tink :icon_chick:
I've been all over the map on the Scale. I started out at a 0 or 1 as a kid, then moving in the end of middle school to the beginning of high school became a 4, then for the past 5-6 years I've been a 6. Nowadays I feel like I'm a 5.5, with my dating a lesbian trapped inside a male body (yes, the silly cliche saying) and all.
A great website is called www.whodoyoudo.com (http://www.whodoyoudo.com). You can order a shirt with the Kinsey Scale on it, and they'll send you a paint marker and you can draw all over the shirt to show where you fall. When I got it a few years ago I put a smiley face around the 5-6 and a frowny face between the 0-1. I'll have to take a picture or something, it's exquisitely cute :D
Quote from: Tink on November 16, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
Kinsey Scale
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0 exclusively heterosexual
1 predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homosexual
2 predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual
6 exclusively homosexual
I am a zero, meaning that I am a girl and I am only attracted to men. I don't have any experience with women whatsoever and I don't wanna! :P
tink :icon_chick:
But you haven't met me yet.
Quote from: Tink on November 16, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
I am a zero
tink :icon_chick:
I'm zero to. only girls for me. no dudes. never been w/one :eusa_sick:
melissa 90299, tink's straight as an arrow. no way she'll be w/another girl :laugh: :icon_dance: that aint like her. hehehehe
Quote from: Chris on November 17, 2007, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: Tink on November 16, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
I am a zero
tink :icon_chick:
I'm zero to. only girls for me. no dudes. never been w/one :eusa_sick:
melissa 90299, tink's straight as an arrow. no way she'll be w/another girl :laugh: :icon_dance: that aint like her. hehehehe
That's what they all say. LOL
Sorry Melissa but I have not been with a gal either. I could never be. That's beyond "what I like" Sorry no offense to any girls & I have met some great looking gals. Porcelain skin, gorgeous hair, hour-glass figure, big boobs, round butt.... I am just not attracted to them, sorry. I'm a zero too. ~laugh~
I've always thought this sorta categorization was overly simplistic... unfairly assuming that woman's and men's sexuality works the same way.
I know I'm stereotyping, but men tend to be body-oriented and inflexible... and these scales seem to assume that women are as well. And while physicality is important to a point, IMHO a woman's sexuality is MUCH more complex and flexible. While it might be fair to tag a male "homosexual" if he's aroused by male bodies, there are situations where "heterosexual" women might find another woman erotic (a big difference here between "another woman" and "women in general"). But it's not the same thing, since *context* is a huge part of women's sexuality and can make up for a lack of physical attraction in some circumstances.
I'm still trying to figure myself out. I listen to gay men go on about men's bodies, and it's just not something I can relate to. That's not to say some men don't just stop me in my tracks when I see them, but it's more about their overall cuteness, a mischevious smile... whereas gay men seem to oogle other men physically exactly as heterosexual men oogle women's body parts.
On the other hand, I was watching Titanic for like the millioneth time last night (why I do this to myself,?), and that look of absolute adoration in Jack's eyes when he looks at Rose... god, I want that SO bad. I just go weak and melt inside. THAT'S what I want and need, and even though I can find women pretty, they can't give me that. They can't make me MELT.
Although to be fair, in 43 years my only sexual experience has been with one woman only... and we see how well THAT worked out... so what do I know?
A long post to basically say... I have NO idea where I'd fall on that scale, lol..
~Kate~
What number am I if I'm physically attracted to women, emotionally attracted to anyone, and have only become disgusted with sex because my body doesn't match what I actually want? How about "Primarily asexual, incidentally bisexual"?? That doesn't seem to really work, but it's a closer fit.
QuoteI know I'm stereotyping, but men tend to be body-oriented and inflexible... and these scales seem to assume that women are as well. And while physicality is important to a point, IMHO a woman's sexuality is MUCH more complex and flexible. While it might be fair to tag a male "homosexual" if he's aroused by male bodies, there are situations where "heterosexual" women might find another woman erotic (a big difference here between "another woman" and "women in general"). But it's not the same thing, since *context* is a huge part of women's sexuality and can make up for a lack of physical attraction in some circumstances.
I think there's a lot of truth in this and that it can become much more complicated. I think this confuses me more than anything else. When I finally run out of reasons/excuses to not transition, where are my feelings of ambiguity going to leave me? Physically I know I'm attracted to women and not men, but emotionally all I have ever really enjoyed in a relationship is feeling loved or needed and I know that if this emotional desire is filled, my partner's gender isn't incredibly important. Sex is a part of a relationship, and is of different importance to different people. The main reason it isn't important to me is that I can't directly enjoy it with the wrong anatomy. And even though I could do without it, I hesitate to consider myself asexual because I can enjoy the potential side effect of how it might make someone else feel about me. In other words, I have no desire for sex as I am currently, but I'm also not opposed to it with certain limitations.
Ugh...can I confuse and contradict myself more? I'm willing to try...
A 1 probably suits me best. I'm attracted to men but if I wasn't already in a relationship, the right woman could probably seduce me.
Karen Lyn
Plenty of zeros. I'm one of you too! Lads all the way!
QuoteI know I'm stereotyping, but men tend to be body-oriented and inflexible... and these scales seem to assume that women are as well.
You definitely are stereotyping. Mens' sexualities are flexible as well, bio and trans -- and we tend to discover certain aspects of our sexualities and attractions throughout our lives. Lots of trans guys, in particular, discover that we're attracted to different people once we transition. Bio guys are also weird like that. They often discover parts of their sexuality with certain major life transitions, such as going to college. I know at least one het-ish jock who loved to cuddle me when no one was looking back in my freshman year...
used to be a six but now i'm a five ;)
Quote from: Butterfly on November 17, 2007, 03:20:39 PM
Sorry Melissa but I have not been with a gal either. I could never be. That's beyond "what I like" Sorry no offense to any girls & I have met some great looking gals. Porcelain skin, gorgeous hair, hour-glass figure, big boobs, round butt.... I am just not attracted to them, sorry. I'm a zero too. ~laugh~
Wow! No wonder you haven't yet discovered your true spiritual sexuality, all you care about is physical appearance. There isn't a woman in the world that given the right circumstances would not share intimacy with another woman. And every woman with whom I discussed this with in 3D agrees with me and that is a lot of women.
Quote from: Kate on November 17, 2007, 03:37:31 PM
I've always thought this sorta categorization was overly simplistic... unfairly assuming that woman's and men's sexuality works the same way...
I don't get what any of that has to do with assessing one's own sexuality using one's own criteria. I mean how hard is it to figure out?
This is obviously an American concept.......What is the Kinsey Scale? and what is it for?
and where do you get your scores from? where is the link?
The interesting thing about falling under a non binary gender identity, is that there is no hetero or homo sexual
I'm just ..... sexual ...
:D :icon_dance:
Dear Forum people.... what is the Kinsey Scale? and where is it accessed and how do you access a score? I am from the U.K and have never heard of it...
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please can someone actually answer my question? this is third time I have made this post and request!
Quote from: Berliegh on November 18, 2007, 06:27:44 AM
Dear Forum people.... what is the Kinsey Scale? and where is it accessed and how do you access a score? I am from the U.K and have never heard of it...
Berliegh,
Here's some info about Dr Kinsey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey), and here's the website for the Kinsey Institute which he founded http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/ (http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/).
from wikipedia
"Alfred Charles Kinsey (June 23, 1894 – August 25, 1956), was an American biologist and professor of entomology and zoology who in 1947 founded the Institute for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction at Indiana University, now called the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction. Kinsey's research on human sexuality profoundly influenced social and cultural values in the United States and many other countries in the West which went through the sexual revolution starting in the 1960s."
and
"Kinsey is generally regarded as the father of sexology, the systematic, scientific study of human sexuality. He initially became interested in the different forms of sexual practices around 1933, after discussing the topic extensively with a colleague, Robert Kroc. It is likely that Kinsey's study of the variations in mating practices among gall wasps led him to wonder how widely varied sexual practices among humans were. During this work, he developed a scale measuring sexual orientation, now known as the Kinsey Scale which ranges from 0 to 6, where 0 is exclusively heterosexual and 6 is exclusively homosexual; a rating of 7, for asexual, was added later by Kinsey's associates."
Zythyra
At last....thank you very much Zythyra for the information... :-*
I didn't know any of that stuff and it is helpful to know what the people on the forum are talking about regarding this subject..
One more thing......where do you access the test / scores link from?
Quote from: Berliegh on November 18, 2007, 06:51:40 AM
At last....thank you very much Zythyra for the information... :-*
I didn't know any of that stuff and it is helpful to know what the people on the forum are talking about regarding this subject..
One more thing......where do you access the test / scores link from?
You're welcome Berliegh. I never saw it, however there was a movie made about him a few years ago, starring Liam Neeson. I believe how one scores is self choosing.
Z
Quote from: y2gender on November 18, 2007, 07:49:52 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on November 18, 2007, 06:51:40 AM
At last....thank you very much Zythyra for the information... :-*
I didn't know any of that stuff and it is helpful to know what the people on the forum are talking about regarding this subject..
One more thing......where do you access the test / scores link from?
You're welcome Berliegh. I never saw it, however there was a movie made about him a few years ago, starring Liam Neeson. I believe how one scores is self choosing.
Z
Yes....Liam Neeson...he's a great actor......saw him in 'Rob Roy' and 'The Missoin'....
Quote from: Berliegh on November 18, 2007, 06:51:40 AM
One more thing......where do you access the test / scores link from?
Basically you look at the scale (posted earlier, but missing an option I've seen included before):
Quote
0 exclusively heterosexual
1 predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homosexual
2 predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual
6 exclusively homosexual
X Asexual
And then you pick a category to put yourself in. Of course, no scale like this can be perfect because it makes assumptions and generalizations (in fact, generalizing is the entire point).
Through more reading from Zythyra's links I ended up finding more about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation) which I think I can relate to much more closely. It recognizes sex as one part of, not the definition of, attraction and affection.
Quote from: Berliegh on November 18, 2007, 06:27:44 AM
Dear Forum people.... what is the Kinsey Scale? and where is it accessed and how do you access a score? I am from the U.K and have never heard of it...
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please can someone actually answer my question? this is third time I have made this post and request!
www.google.com
Quote from: Vivian45 on November 18, 2007, 08:39:29 AM
Through more reading from Zythyra's links I ended up finding more about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation) which I think I can relate to much more closely. It recognizes sex as one part of, not the definition of, attraction and affection.
That makes a lot of sense. Using the Kinsey scale, I'm right in the middle, a 3, however it goes beyond simply sexual orientation for me. I don't care what sex they are, or aren't for that matter, it's the person that I'm attracted to. As long as there's plenty of sex involved, I'm happy ;D
Z
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 18, 2007, 02:52:30 AM
I mean how hard is it to figure out?
Hello! I'm a woman with a penis, married to another woman who can arouse me (which I HATE), yet I have no interest in other women and only fantasize about men, but I'm grossed out by the idea of male-male anatomy sex, and the idea of anyone pleasing ME before SRS absolutely disgusts me, while the idea of post-SRS sex is absolutely mind-boggling.
I'd say it's pretty hard to figure out.
~Kate~
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 17, 2007, 01:19:14 AM
Quote from: Tink on November 16, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
Kinsey Scale
Quote
0 exclusively heterosexual
1 predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homosexual
2 predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual
6 exclusively homosexual
I am a zero, meaning that I am a girl and I am only attracted to men. I don't have any experience with women whatsoever and I don't wanna! :P
tink :icon_chick:
But you haven't met me yet.
ROFL ;D :D Okaaaay funny, aren't you? Well, Chris is right, I'm as straight as an arrow. I know that this is a cliche used by some other women, but this fairy is special and likes men too much in order to "experiment" with a girl. That could never happen, trust me Melissa, I know what I am talking about. Girls don't turn me on regardless of how beautiful or sexy they may be. I am just not attracted to girls and never will be! :P
tink :icon_chick:
Zero too :laugh:
You zeroes might need to get in touch with your true feminine side. LOL It will come in time.
Or perhaps, the spiritual and emotional side of femininity, you guys keep talking about the physical, that is NOT what woman to woman intimacy is all about.
Quote from: Andrew on November 17, 2007, 11:18:40 PM
QuoteI know I'm stereotyping, but men tend to be body-oriented and inflexible... and these scales seem to assume that women are as well.
You definitely are stereotyping. Mens' sexualities are flexible as well, bio and trans -- and we tend to discover certain aspects of our sexualities and attractions throughout our lives. Lots of trans guys, in particular, discover that we're attracted to different people once we transition. Bio guys are also weird like that. They often discover parts of their sexuality with certain major life transitions, such as going to college. I know at least one het-ish jock who loved to cuddle me when no one was looking back in my freshman year...
It's not stereotyping if it's true. Men
tend to be more more body-oriented and inflexible than women. For one thing, there are more bisexual women than bisexual men. Just from my observations, nobody freak. Women
tend to be more easily aroused by situations than men.
Posted on: November 19, 2007, 11:26:10 AM
As for where I fit on the Kinsey scale, I really don't know. Goes from 2 to 3 to 4 and back again, depending on my taste at the time.
Men for friendship and sex and women for romance and sex.
Nero, don't you think men are less likely to admit or recognize their bi-sexuality due to societal repression and taboos?
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 19, 2007, 09:46:49 AM
Nero, don't you think men are less likely to admit or recognize their bi-sexuality due to societal repression and taboos?
yeah, that may be true. Bisexual women are way less marginalized than gay, bisexual men and lesbian women by the straight community.
Or at least it seems that way. I know a lot of guys who don't mind if their woman sleeps with other women.
Quote from: Nero on November 19, 2007, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 19, 2007, 09:46:49 AM
Nero, don't you think men are less likely to admit or recognize their bi-sexuality due to societal repression and taboos?
yeah, that may be true. Bisexual women are way less marginalized than gay, bisexual men and lesbian women by the straight community.
Or at least it seems that way. I know a lot of guys who don't mind if their woman sleeps with other women.
Many males who don't identify as bisexual have had sex with other males. Whether that's due to societal repression, or other reasons, I don't know. I never had any problem acknowledging my bisexuality, then again, I wasn't necessarily male, even though my body appears otherwise.
y2g
Quote from: y2gender on November 19, 2007, 11:40:27 AM
Many males who don't identify as bisexual have had sex with other males. Whether that's due to societal repression, or other reasons, I don't know. I never had any problem acknowledging my bisexuality, then again, I wasn't necessarily male, even though my body appears otherwise.
In modern sexuality, they've all but dropped gay when referring to sex (just sex, not relationships, etc) between men, instead referring to it collectively as "men who have sex with other men". Males that fit this definition that define themselves as gay or bi is actually a very small segment of this population, oddly enough.
Zero. Hetero gal.
Quote from: Enigma on November 19, 2007, 12:45:38 PM
In modern sexuality, they've all but dropped gay when referring to sex (just sex, not relationships, etc) between men, instead referring to it collectively as "men who have sex with other men". Males that fit this definition that define themselves as gay or bi is actually a very small segment of this population, oddly enough.
I only recently saw this description "men who have sex with other men" in articles about Sen Larry Craig and closeted men who have sex with other men but don't identify as gay.
y2g
X = Asexual
I'm not on the scale.
I'm not interested in sex. My dogs are though. ;)
I suppose if you had to fit me some where you could give me an X.
Cindi
Congratulations! You scored 44%!
Predominantly heterosexual, but more the incidentally homosexual. You're in the grey area. You are probably one of those straight people who's very comfortable with your sexuality, hell you may even play with the gay in the bedroom. You're probably the boyfriend that will go with your girlfriend to the gay club, and you probably dont care when an obviously gay person checks you out or even hits on you. Yay for you, gay people love straight people like you! Another option, you might also be the bi-curious or confused type, but only YOU know the truth. Last option (least in MY head) is you're a bisexual person, who tends to favor the opposite sex over the same sex.
I just found a Kinsey quiz and took it for kicks and giggles.
It rated me 50 percent number 1 and 25 percent number 6 with nothing in between. So much for a continuum! ;) I told ya I don't fit in there anywhere!
Cindi
Before my surgery I thought I was attracted to women. I haven't been that sex driven, ever. Like I have said in previous posts, Pat has been my one and only. We dated about 6 months before we did anything. Before I met her I went to a bachelors party for a friend and his future brother in law (Jerry Quarry) bought some prostitutes. They sent me up to the room and I didn't want anything to do with them. Now, after surgery, I know I don't care about men, but I do look. I really don't have any desire at all, not that I don't think about it. I think I'm asexual. I looked it up and I think I'm asexual. I will have to do some studing on this.
Sheila
I would be between 4 and 6. I am attracted to women, not men, but I have heard that can change after HRT and SRS. I don't think it will change for me. I have always only been attracted to women. I can't phathom right now having sex with a man.
Hugz,
Ariana
I'm an X for female and a B for bisexual? Maybe?
I am a 3 love them all
I'm a 0. Men only!
Hum,
Boy, what an interesting question...but to me at least I don't believe love and attraction is limited to either gender...guess that puts me in the middle. There are things about men that are attractive...but I also find things attractive about woman too...hum...
Looking back it's been about a 50/50 split for me...but I can honestly say that my most emotionally fulfilling relationships have been with woman. Never really stopped to think about this before...does one need to pick one gender over another?? Seems odd to me at least.
Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
Actually I can be attracted by both but I already have a female mate and I love her. So that if I went out to experiment with a man, it would only be that. Mostly out of curiosity.
Cindy
I am a 5.5 and 9.9 at Hot or Not. LOL
Zero.. have never been with a guy and could never be. At all....