How do you usually sit :D? One leg crossed above the other knee/leg? Legs wide apart? One ankle resting on the other leg?
Describe :D!
Did you always sit like this? Or did transitioning affect this? Did you consciously change it?
And before I'm accused of that - no, I do not think that sitting a certain way makes you any more/less a man or a woman ::)!
Just a fun, interesting, harmless question ;D!
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As for me:
EASY! I always sit legs very wide apart ;D!!! The other option is that I rest my other ankle on my knee. But I NEVER ever sit legs neatly crossed! Ever. And never have.
Example: There's a photograph of me when I was 6 and sitting at a kindergarten party. As my mom always made sure I looked very girly and pretty - I was wearing a dress, white pantyhose, white shoes, and my long hair on a ponytail with some bow.... :P But - I sat legs wide apart ;D!!! Wider than the boys.... ::) Let's just say that didn't look so 'pretty' in that pic, ;D!
My legs are not made to sit that way. I've never been even able to put them in that crossed position!
I tend to take up a lot of space... :D!
So, I guess you can put that boy in a dress - but can't take the boy out of him I guess, ;)
I have to put this on here as well :D - apart from generally sitting legs apart, this is a usual position of mine, especially when going to stand up soon:
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So, not very girly in a dress, huh :D?!
Feel free to include your own pics as a reference as well, ;D!
Just had to make a thread about this ;D!
Well, I tend to not take up space so much, my legs always cross neatly... always have. I can still double cross them :p
Rowan
Depends where I'm sitting. Generally I don't cross my legs at all but sit with them half apart.
But sometimes I will do this
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And on my own sofa I will perch rather than sit. Hard to explain how I mean exactly but it's not like ordinary sitting. Or, I'll just be lounging all over it like a dog.
Usually legs far apart as it's simply more comfortable. Sometimes ill sit with one ankle resting on the other. Or as in the pic below. But I then get self conscious that that's too few. Although my dad often sits like that.
They call it "Man-Spreading" for a reason ;D
At 6ft tall, average chair height tends to make sitting for any length of time a fidget Olympic. Legs stretched straight out is the most comfortable (as in least painful) for the hips and back. Usually this not an option, impossible in an airplane seat.
Usually I need to sit diagonally in the seat with my legs bent back in the opposite direction. Sometimes crossed at the ankle, sometimes not. 15-20 minutes later, rotate the other way. Rinse, lather, repeat.
When I do have the luxury of an adjustable chair and the needed head room above the legs, I tend to cross them with both legs parallel. In other words what one can say "In a lady like fashion". The legs still tend to lean sideways.
Before GCS, I could only put an ankle over my knee. Putting one knee over the other knee was uncomfortable.
After GCS, I can cross my legs any way I want to.
Depends. Wearing a kilt, I have my legs father apart and let the sporran push the kilt down between my legs. With skirts and dresses, more neatly crossed now that I've lost weight, otherwise legs together.
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I've always crossed my legs like most women do. If I'm sitting on the sofa watching TV or reading I sit with my legs tucked under me. My brother always asks me how that can't be unconformable. I never thought about it but I guess sitting like that would be uncomfortable for tall people. The man spread. That's a good name for it. Guys do like to take up space. When I sit on the sofa with Tristan or Tyler I end up getting smashed into the corner. It seems like the more relaxed they get the more they spread out. I shouldn't have been surprised to find out guys have rules for sitting as well as anything else. I once asked Tyler why he didn't cross his legs. He said he can't cross his legs without it being very uncomfortable and then he gave me the rules for " man sitting". It's ok for older guys to sit with their legs crossed but it's weird and fem for a younger guy to cross his legs. It's acceptable for a guy to sit with his legs apart or with one ankle on his knee. It's unacceptable and totally weird for guys to sit with their legs tucked under them. It seems like guys are territorial about their space. If you have to sit next to another guy you make sure you don't invade the other guys space and you make sure you don't touch the guy and you don't even touch knees if you can help it. I never followed those rules or even knew they existed. No wonder my brother thought I was a little strange. My brother gives off a lot if body heat. In the winter I would get right up next to him while we were watching TV. He never pushed me away from him or said anything mean to me but he would tell me he wasn't a personal space heater and that I could be so weird sometimes. lol
Wow. I would love to see the big book of guy rules. I wonder where they keep it. Lol. I don't know how guys remember all these dumb rules. What if a guy breaks some of them? Are they booted out of the " guy club"? LOL :D. Like I've said before, guys are so weird!
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
Wow. I would love to see the big book of guy rules. I wonder where they keep it. Lol. I don't know how guys remember all these dumb rules. What if a guy breaks some of them? Are they booted out of the " guy club"? LOL :D. Like I've said before, guys are so weird!
It's not a book. It's card. :)
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
I've always crossed my legs like most women do. If I'm sitting on the sofa watching TV or reading I sit with my legs tucked under me. My brother always asks me how that can't be unconformable.
Julia, how are you able to do that?! That's like the most uncomfortable position I could imagine!
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
The man spread. That's a good name for it. Guys do like to take up space. When I sit on the sofa with Tristan or Tyler I end up getting smashed into the corner. It seems like the more relaxed they get the more they spread out.
When I'm relaxed and sit in a chair/on a sofa, I tend to put my legs very wide apart, plus lean back plus cross my hands behind my head/neck! Never really thought about it but once it hit me my SO would never sit like that ;D!
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
I shouldn't have been surprised to find out guys have rules for sitting as well as anything else. I once asked Tyler why he didn't cross his legs. He said he can't cross his legs without it being very uncomfortable and then he gave me the rules for " man sitting". It's ok for older guys to sit with their legs crossed but it's weird and fem for a younger guy to cross his legs. It's acceptable for a guy to sit with his legs apart or with one ankle on his knee. It's unacceptable and totally weird for guys to sit with their legs tucked under them.
Exactly ;D! Your brother taught you well!
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
It seems like guys are territorial about their space. If you have to sit next to another guy you make sure you don't invade the other guys space and you make sure you don't touch the guy and you don't even touch knees if you can help it.
I find it funny and weird that you are totally clueless about such 'rules' as you call them ;D! Like - they aren't 'rules' to remember, they are second nature to me, and that's what I find it's funny ;D! Coz I never really consciously thought about any of the so-called 'rules'. They just come naturally. I've honestly never been able to sit legs neatly crossed. Ever. And not touching other guys... well... that's just not something you do ;D!
But I find it intriguing that you find such 'guy rules' so strange and incomprehensible ;D! Really funny, really!
How do you usually sit ? One leg crossed above the other knee/leg? Legs wide apart? One ankle resting on the other leg?
Legs wide apart, if possible arms laying on the backrest, alternatively arms on my legs.
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An insane chick threw a tantrum at me on the bus a while ago for sitting with my legs wide apart because for whatever reason she concerned herself with how I a random bloke she had never seen before sat there and got all pissed and hysterical.
However when I have to sit for a long time I change sitting positions from time to time and I might place an ankle onto my leg or I put one leg or both legs onto stuff that's standing around.
Did you always sit like this? Or did transitioning affect this? Did you consciously change it?
That is how I naturally sit and always sat without thinking about it. It has nothing to do with the transition and there is nothing conscious about it either.
I like to press my legs/knees together. Doing that actually kinda accentuates my hips when I'm sitting.. makes me kinda happy in the moment [emoji4]
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Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 11:49:49 AM
Julia, how are you able to do that?! That's like the most uncomfortable position I could imagine!
When I'm relaxed and sit in a chair/on a sofa, I tend to put my legs very wide apart, plus lean back plus cross my hands behind my head/neck! Never really thought about it but once it hit me my SO would never sit like that ;D!
Exactly ;D! Your brother taught you well!
I find it funny and weird that you are totally clueless about such 'rules' as you call them ;D! Like - they aren't 'rules' to remember, they are second nature to me, and that's what I find it's funny ;D! Coz I never really consciously thought about any of the so-called 'rules'. They just come naturally. I've honestly never been able to sit legs neatly crossed. Ever. And not touching other guys... well... that's just not something you do ;D!
But I find it intriguing that you find such 'guy rules' so strange and incomprehensible ;D! Really funny, really!
Sitting like that is very comfortable. But I suppose it wouldn't be for a tall person. It's no surprise you do the man spread. All males seem to do it. All the stuff guys are supposed to do and not do seems like rules. There are like a lot of them and most of them I had no idea existed. Like guys aren't supposed to look each other in the eyes because it's considered a challenge to the other guy. WHAT????? I know dogs do that and apes but not human males. And guys have a fear of expressing emotion. Once one of my brother's friends started crying talking about his dog dying. The other guys just stood there with dumb looks. No one even tried to comfort him. I hugged the poor guy and tried to comfort him. Later I told Tyler he should have hugged him or at least comfort him. He looked at me like I was insane and told me guys don't hug each other and he said if he had tried to comfort him it would have embarrassed him even worse than the guy crying.
I have never understood male behavior. It does baffle me. You do have to admit some of the stuff you guys do is weird. Like wearing the dog shock collar, stunning each other with a stungun to see what it feels like, tasting pepper spray, car surfing, trying to see how many jalapeño peppers they can eat without drinking milk to cool it down and the looser is then a pussy and gets laughed at. And god forbid you pass out around a bunch of guys. You could wake up with a Dick drawn on your face with permanent ink or with your eyebrows or head shaved. Guys think it's funny to do mean things to each other.
I would never consider doing anything I just described. But I'm pretty sure you would. Well you probably have done some stuff like that. All guys do. The crazy part is they don't consider any of that strange, they find that stuff fun and funny.
So yes, GUYS ARE WEIRD! Lol.
Quote from: dist123 on December 28, 2017, 01:18:56 PM
I like to press my legs/knees together. Doing that actually kinda accentuates my hips when I'm sitting.. makes me kinda happy in the moment [emoji4]
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Ever since I was a boy, I've always crossed my legs in a proper ladylike manner, one knee resting on the other, with my legs closed. I don't know if it's because I grew up with sisters, but it always felt more comfortable for me that way. And yes, you do get in trouble with the "guy club" for breaking one of the many "rules." From my early school days on, I was always ridiculed for sitting like a girl, running like a girl, holding my books like a girl, and on, and on, and on. Unfortunately, that was back in the 1970's, and I was way too naive back then to realize that I really was a girl.
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I'll do the man spread on any public transport when the place is mostly empty. Why? Because I don't want a stranger to sit next to me when there's plenty of space for them to sit elsewhere. If any of us were on an empty train and someone comes and sits RIGHT next to you for no reason, it's about as comfortable as some stranger deciding to come and pee RIGHT NEXT to you when there's an entire room of empty urinals. It's not just men who feel that way. Women do as well. Putting yourself up in someone's personal space for no reason is strange and unwelcome usually, unless there's something you have to speak to someone about.
If the place is full, I won't do it because I appreciate people need the space. But until that point I'll spread out a bit to preserve my personal space. I've seen women do it with their shopping bags as well taking up extra seats with it when they don't need to, but they want the seats next to them empty.
By the way, not all guys are useless at comforting people. But we generally prefer people got emotional over serious understandable things than all the time or over little things. A dog or person dying I can get. Someone crying for no reason or something stupid frustrates me. Not least because I know exactly why it can happen and it's useless, or at least it was for me. If someone is made to feel good about doing it from others every time they do, that's reinforcing behavior - and for men who are expected to get things done, being reduced to a crying wreck means we're not useful at all in that moment. We don't like being useless and incapable, not least because the rest of society depends on us not to be. It's a double reinforcement. We don't like it, and neither does anybody else. Some females say they like men who show their emotions, but I guarantee none of them would see much in a man for long who is so emotionally fragile he breaks down at every slightest thing. Women expect men to be tough - but then they ridicule them for not showing emotions. Some men like me can do both, but it's not easy. Hormones have something to do with how easy it is to allow emotions in or let them show as well.
As for doing stupid things to each other to see what it feels like - that's the adventurous spirit right there, lol. How many inventions would not exist because some guy wasn't curious enough to see what the results of something are?
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
I have never understood male behavior. It does baffle me. You do have to admit some of the stuff you guys do is weird. Like wearing the dog shock collar, stunning each other with a stungun to see what it feels like, tasting pepper spray, car surfing, trying to see how many jalapeño peppers they can eat without drinking milk to cool it down and the looser is then a pussy and gets laughed at. And god forbid you pass out around a bunch of guys. You could wake up with a Dick drawn on your face with permanent ink or with your eyebrows or head shaved. Guys think it's funny to do mean things to each other.
I would never consider doing anything I just described. But I'm pretty sure you would. Well you probably have done some stuff like that. All guys do. The crazy part is they don't consider any of that strange, they find that stuff fun and funny.
Well I can't stop laughing, ;D!!!
Quote from: Viktor on December 28, 2017, 01:52:54 PM
By the way, not all guys are useless at comforting people. But we generally prefer people got emotional over serious understandable things than all the time or over little things. A dog or person dying I can get. Someone crying for no reason or something stupid frustrates me.
I always hated it as a kid when my mom used to tear up in every occasion such as watching school plays, movies etc. I just didn't get it! It really annoyed me, ha!
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 03:07:12 PM
Well I can't stop laughing, ;D!!!
I always hated it as a kid when my mom used to tear up in every occasion such as watching school plays, movies etc. I just didn't get it! It really annoyed me, ha!
That's because you have that guy sense of humor. One of my brother's friends showed up with a nasty black eye. I asked him what happened and he said his older brother had punched him in the face. I was horrified! I asked him why his brother would want to hit him. He said it was because his brother came home really drunk and passed out and he shaved off his eyebrows and gave him a mohawk and then had taken pictures of him. When he showed my brother and the other guys the pictures they all thought it was hilarious and started giving him high fives. I asked him why he would do something like that to his brother and he said because it was funny and totally worth the black eye.
Yeah...that's that male sense of humor......
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
That's because you have that guy sense of humor. One of my brother's friends showed up with a nasty black eye. I asked him what happened and he said his older brother had punched him in the face. I was horrified! I asked him why his brother would want to hit him. He said it was because his brother came home really drunk and passed out and he shaved off his eyebrows and gave him a mohawk and then had taken pictures of him. When he showed my brother and the other guys the pictures they all thought it was hilarious and started giving him high fives. I asked him why he would do something like that to his brother and he said because it was funny and totally worth the black eye.
Yeah...that's that male sense of humor......
Now I'm laughing so hard I'm suffocating ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D!!!!!!!!! Totally worth it indeed!
Who did that dick with a permanent ink, ;D?!?!?!?!
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
Now I'm laughing so hard I'm suffocating ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D!!!!!!!!! Totally worth it indeed!
Who did that dick with a permanent ink, ;D?!?!?!?!
That was a different guy. But my brother is the one who did it. He drew a big dick on the side of his face that looked like it was getting ready to go into his mouth. Tyler thought it was hilarious and told me I had no sense of humor when he told me about it and I didn't find it funny.
Girls have lots of rules too. You just grew up knowing then Julia. I always liked to sit with legs under me too, but the older I get the easier it is to get pain doing it. I do the ladylike leg cross normally, and that is comfortable. Before coming out I wouldn't be caught dead doing that. Someone might figure it out.
Moni
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
That was a different guy. But my brother is the one who did it. He drew a big dick on the side of his face that looked like it was getting ready to go into his mouth. Tyler thought it was hilarious and told me I had no sense of humor when he told me about it and I didn't find it funny.
You are killing me ;D ;D ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!! And he did that with permanent ink?!!!!!! How did he get rid of that?! And you didn't find that funny?! I'm laughing my head off and choking here!!!!!
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
You are killing me ;D ;D ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!! And he did that with permanent ink?!!!!!! How did he get rid of that?! And you didn't find that funny?! I'm laughing my head off and choking here!!!!!
He drew it on with a permanent Sharpie marker. I don't think it did come off. I think it had to wear off. No I didn't think it was very funny. I was shocked my brother would do something that mean mostly.
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
He drew it on with a permanent Sharpie marker. I don't think it did come off. I think it had to wear off. No I didn't think it was very funny. I was shocked my brother would do something that mean mostly.
Well, it's mean but oh so damn funny ;D!!! Oh man, I'd like to meet your brother, ;D! You are honestly making my day with those stories of Tyler & Tristan, ;D!
How did he go to work/school then, ;D?! With that dick on his face ;D ;D ;D?
And what about that jalapeno contest - were those regular jalapenos or those extra hot ones?
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
How do you usually sit :D? One leg crossed above the other knee/leg? Legs wide apart? One ankle resting on the other leg?
I have always preferred to sit with my legs crossed woman-style: one knee over the other. It's just way more comfortable that way. I was always self-conscious about it, because it was not the proper "guy" way to sit, but I was an outcast anyway, so what the heck. Now, of course, it is very proper.
I did learn to sit guy-style: ankle on knee, but that is uncomfortable and makes my joints hurt after a while.
I can sit knees together like a proper lady if I have to, but that takes effort and I'm lazy.
I never could sit with my legs apart, even as a man. My mother taught me that taking up more than my share of space was rude. Besides it is gross: who wants to see the outline of a guy's junk? It is the proper way to sit in a kilt, provided the kilt drapes the way it is supposed to, like Gertrude said, but not otherwise.
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
Well, it's mean but oh so damn funny ;D!!! Oh man, I'd like to meet your brother, ;D! You are honestly making my day with those stories of Tyler & Tristan, ;D!
How did he go to work/school then, ;D?! With that dick on his face ;D ;D ;D?
And what about that jalapeno contest - were those regular jalapenos or those extra hot ones?
I asked the same thing. Tyler told me he wore a large bandage on his face. The peppers were actually habanero peppers. I think they might be hotter than jalapeño pepers. They went through a gallon of milk in like an hour. Tyler got third place. One of the other guys rubbed his watery eyes with the pepper residue on his hands and nearly blinded himself,the imbecile. I haven't witnessed Tristan doing anything stupid like that yet but there was the time he was playing around with this hunting knife and I told him to stop messing with it before he cut himself. He told me he knew how to handle knives and no way was he going to cut himself. Ok. A few minutes later he asked for a Band-Aid, he cut himself of course.
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 28, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
I have always preferred to sit with my legs crossed woman-style: one knee over the other. It's just way more comfortable that way. I was always self-conscious about it, because it was not the proper "guy" way to sit, but I was an outcast anyway, so what the heck. Now, of course, it is very proper.
I did learn to sit guy-style: ankle on knee, but that is uncomfortable and makes my joints hurt after a while.
I can sit knees together like a proper lady if I have to, but that takes effort and I'm lazy.
I never could sit with my legs apart, even as a man. My mother taught me that taking up more than my share of space was rude. Besides it is gross: who wants to see the outline of a guy's junk? It is the proper way to sit in a kilt, provided the kilt drapes the way it is supposed to, like Gertrude said, but not otherwise.
Do they wear underwear under the kilt?
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 28, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
I did learn to sit guy-style: ankle on knee, but that is uncomfortable and makes my joints hurt after a while.
WHAAT? That is very comfortable ;D! But I don't manage to cross my legs women style - that's hugely uncomfortable for me. Never done it. That feels like a forced position to me!
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 28, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
I never could sit with my legs apart, even as a man. My mother taught me that taking up more than my share of space was rude. Besides it is gross: who wants to see the outline of a guy's junk? It is the proper way to sit in a kilt, provided the kilt drapes the way it is supposed to, like Gertrude said, but not otherwise.
And I feel weird not sitting legs apart ;D! Told you this was going to be a fun thread!
Legs together feels forced and unnatural! I thought women sit that way or legs crossed only bcos of wearing skirts or dresses or bcos of some social conditioning to look 'lady-like' or whatever - but it's interesting that some people actually do like to sit that way plus find it comfortable! I just can't imagine doing that.
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
WHAAT? That is very comfortable ;D! But I don't manage to cross my legs women style - that's hugely uncomfortable for me. Never done it. That feels like a forced position to me!
And I feel weird not sitting legs apart ;D! Told you this was going to be a fun thread!
Legs together feels forced and unnatural! I thought women sit that way or legs crossed only bcos of wearing skirts or dresses or bcos of some social conditioning to look 'lady-like' or whatever - but it's interesting that some people actually do like to sit that way plus find it comfortable! I just can't imagine doing that.
All guys are like that Mr. Wolf. Every guy I've been around sits with their legs apart even my grandpa. I've seen a testicle hang out the edge of shorts a few times. Never my grandpa thank god or I would need eye bleach.
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 05:06:13 PM
Do they wear underwear under the kilt?
Traditionally, no. In the British army, the Highland regiments don't wear underwear under their kilts, which is where the term "going regimental" originated for that fashion style. I suspect that most guys wearing kilts at social events like Scottish country dancing probably wear underwear. No, I'm not going to check!
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
All guys are like that Mr. Wolf. Every guy I've been around sits with their legs apart even my grandpa. I've seen a testicle hang out the edge of shorts a few times. Never my grandpa thank god or I would need eye bleach.
Julia, you are hilarious! :D
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
All guys are like that Mr. Wolf. Every guy I've been around sits with their legs apart even my grandpa. I've seen a testicle hang out the edge of shorts a few times. Never my grandpa thank god or I would need eye bleach.
You are so ridiculously funny, Julia ;D!!! I'm sure you must be very fun to be around, ;)
Somehow can't believe that you said something like... not having friends besides Tyler & Tristan - oh, I went and checked that up in that isolation thread... Well, in other threads you've implied having friends, though!
I could imagine you're the most popular girl ever - and having lots of friends around!
Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 28, 2017, 05:47:48 PM
You are so ridiculously funny, Julia ;D!!! I'm sure you must be very fun to be around, ;)
Somehow can't believe that you said something like... not having friends besides Tyler & Tristan - oh, I went and checked that up in that isolation thread... Well, in other threads you've implied having friends, though!
I could imagine you're the most popular girl ever - and having lots of friends around!
Thank you. That's sweet to say. I had friends but my last 2 got jealous and turned on me and said some nasty stuff. When I was younger I totally didn't have any friends. The other kids thought I was weird. But thankfully Tyler would do stuff with me most of the time. That's probably one reason we are so close.
Quote from: Julia1996 on December 28, 2017, 05:53:46 PM
Thank you. That's sweet to say. I had friends but my last 2 got jealous and turned on me and said some nasty stuff. When I was younger I totally didn't have any friends. The other kids thought I was weird. But thankfully Tyler would do stuff with me most of the time. That's probably one reason we are so close.
I can relate, making friends is hard but my brother is always there for me. Usually doing something stupid like using plyers and a hammer to shoot .22 bullets at cane toads [emoji16]
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I think I like this thread.
I've always sat with my legs close together, whether folded to one side, tucked under me or crossed at the thigh. I never even thought others might have thought it weird until I read some threads about it here.
Wow, so there is a rulebook for guys? I never knew that. Perhaps that's why they were so disgusted when I tried to hug them in elementary school. I've also always thought that leaning against anyone warm feels really nice when it's cold, and couldn't understand why others didn't feel the same.
That said, I did like many of the Dudesons' shows—probably because they really and truly didn't seem to care what happened to them. I can't really imagine living with them, though.
Actually, now I remember reading some book about how to be a man when I was little. My parents bought a lot of books, and it was one of them. The contents seemed really weird to me—like how men should make refrigerators for their rooms out of old barrels, with an ice compartment on top. And how real men don't smell of anything. I liked perfumes, so I didn't understand why—and only much later realized that maybe the author meant that they should keep clean so they wouldn't smell sweaty. All in all I found the contents pretty distasteful.
I spread. Even if I put my feet together I spread my legs and have my knees apart.
Seldom cross my legs but when I do I have my foot on the other knee.
I've done this since I was a kid. Mom and dad always told me to sit like a girl.