Was just out in public with a friend and got stared at so hard. I just wanted to crawl into a hole. Pictures with and without the wig.
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Honey,
I suspect you get looked at because you are a pretty woman and people tend to look at pretty women.
Try walking around with a hole in your throat all day!!
Just relax and ignore it. It takes a bit of getting use to but it is part of female life.
It's definitely because I'm visibly trans but thanks though :) I'm trying to be okay with it. I also post flattering pictures on here that don't really show why people are staring. But I'm trying to stay positive about being able to pass since it's only 25 days on hrt. This is a more realistic picture with no wig or makeup on other than a little eye liner. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/12aa30701fcae23442c0269d1fab63ae.jpg)
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You look fine!
Hey and where is the smile? A big smile does wonders and you will then notice that other women always smile back.
Men just don't know what to do but that is normal man stuff so I'm told.
You are just starting and it is intimidating but after a while you just get immune to the looks. As I said all women get looked at all the time.
Just take a quiet sit on a bench on a street or a shopping Mall and watch how people look at each other. You will be quite amused and amazed, it is also good practice in observing how to respond in public as well.
Don't let the stares bother you. You look great. Yes, you are a bit different from the 'average' person but in a way isn't that good? Who wants to be the same as everyone else anyway. Also, as time passes it will become easier in terms of appearance and having the confidence to just be yourself and not worry about the minority who want to make an issue.
Its a great step, get out there and do it again. I promise it will be easier!
Me I want to be average that's all I want haha
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You look feminine enough that I don't think it was for that reason. What's more likely is when they looked at you, you became nervous and they picked up on that. When you are in public, you need to ignore what others are doing and as long as you don't show nerves, they will quickly satisfy their curiosity and look elsewhere.
The only time I have ever been the subject of stares like that was after I had surgery, I took my roommate out for a trip in public. This was one of her first public outings and I could feel her nerves, so could a man seated about 50 feet away from us. It drew his eyes towards both of us and while it didn't bother me, I needed to talk my roommate through it.
If you are going out with a friend, tell them about this and ask them to distract you if you start getting nervous. It will take you time to get over your nerves but it gets better each trip out the door.
I remember back in 1978, or was it 79? My first of two utter Fail transition experiments. Getting stared at churned up all those (negative) childhood memories of being "Different". For me "Different" carried over both way back as a kid and young adult. I spent over half of my life being picked on. At 6ft tall you tend to stand out in a world where most women were.... 5'4".
After a few years of misery and a I know what will fix me marriage I "experimented" again. Same result. I then stuffed buried, or otherwise tried to kill the Trans-Beast to no avail for some 30 years or more. That was when I took it on the Trans-Beast for Real.
These days when I get that uncomfortable too long of a look from a guy or another women I think to myself "I guess I really do look as great I thought" when I took that last look in the mirror before leaving the house.
Attitude. 99% of "passing" and 100% of just feeling good about being the Real You in the Real World
Hrt takes time. I know that's what I'm waiting on. Also my hair to grow out. Things like my shoulders, hands and feet won't change and can probably easily clock me in the future too so I just think- if I stress things now so much I'll be super disappointed later.
As much as confidence helps and the advice "just smile" is peachy, in reality we're going through something very very difficult. I don't mean to disregard anything others have said but let's be honest when we don't have life together in our 20s, transitioning is not a walk in the park or just putting on a dress and going out. No income, no support or savings. Very awkward stage in transitioning... well let me stop here since I'm going beyond what your post is about.
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You really look cis woman to me. I think it's normal for us to think we are being clocked when peeps look at us
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Quote from: Courtney.lane408 on February 10, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
It's definitely because I'm visibly trans but thanks though :) I'm trying to be okay with it. I also post flattering pictures on here that don't really show why people are staring. But I'm trying to stay positive about being able to pass since it's only 25 days on hrt. This is a more realistic picture with no wig or makeup on other than a little eye liner. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/12aa30701fcae23442c0269d1fab63ae.jpg)
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If that's you after 25 days of HRT, you're going to look amazing in a year. Seriously.
You already pass. How do I know? I'm on Tapatalk, and at first I thought your first photo was from another forum. It took me a few seconds to realize that you are trans.
Is it possible that this person staring at you realized that you're trans? Sure, and it's unsettling when it happens. But most people just aren't observant enough to notice.
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Quote from: Allison S on February 10, 2018, 05:26:56 PM
Hrt takes time. I know that's what I'm waiting on. Also my hair to grow out. Things like my shoulders, hands and feet won't change and can probably easily clock me in the future too so I just think- if I stress things now so much I'll be super disappointed later.
As much as confidence helps and the advice "just smile" is peachy, in reality we're going through something very very difficult. I don't mean to disregard anything others have said but let's be honest when we don't have life together in our 20s, transitioning is not a walk in the park or just putting on a dress and going out. No income, no support or savings. Very awkward stage in transitioning... well let me stop here since I'm going beyond what your post is about.
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I started at 35, and I was not financially secure, because I really did not know what I wanted to do. Let's be honest, transition is expensive, so if you transition without much income you are going to be struggling to get the things you need. So I decided to go back to school, and I got degree in an allied healthcare field; the job paid well enough that I was able to save enough to have my first round of FFS after a few years, all the while having a nice place to live and a nice new car to drive; and I was doing something that I loved, and I was helping people as well. So, what I'm saying is don't wait for things to happen; make them happen. Insurance is starting to pay for trans related healthcare in some places, but you have to wait in line, and see who they want you to see; it's a whole lot better when you make your own decisions. So, I put off my transition to full time for 9 years, but I was still able to be on HRT five years prior.
Yes, I wanted everything done overnight; I had friends who went to Dr. Ousterhout for FFS, and then have SRS; I would watch trans documentaries, and see the magical transitions, and my heart would ache, and I was happy for them. I knew that my turn would come, because I was doing what I needed to do to make it happen. And everyone else can make their dreams become reality also; just make a plan and put in the work 😊
The answer is yes and no.
At first we get stared at more and we are more hyper-aware and also more mistaken about what importance strangers attach to our appearance. Hint (90% of people could care less. To wit: 'Oh look a transgender person! Hmmm, was I supposed to pick up a quart of milk at the store tonite on my way home?') And then we start to develop a thicker skin to it. Then as the hormones work their magic the staring (and the misgendering) occur less and less frequently but even when it becomes a rare occurrence it usually comes out of nowhere like a punch in the gut when we are feeling on cloud 9 and we are least expecting it and we feel crushed. Just be yourself. Let the hormones work their magic. You're young. You have a wonderful female life ahead of you. Enjoy it.
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 10, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I started at 35, and I was not financially secure, because I really did not know what I wanted to do. Let's be honest, transition is expensive, so if you transition without much income you are going to be struggling to get the things you need. So I decided to go back to school, and I got degree in an allied healthcare field; the job paid well enough that I was able to save enough to have my first round of FFS after a few years, all the while having a nice place to live and a nice new car to drive; and I was doing something that I loved, and I was helping people as well. So, what I'm saying is don't wait for things to happen; make them happen. Insurance is starting to pay for trans related healthcare in some places, but you have to wait in line, and see who they want you to see; it's a whole lot better when you make your own decisions. So, I put off my transition to full time for 9 years, but I was still able to be on HRT five years prior.
Yes, I wanted everything done overnight; I had friends who went to Dr. Ousterhout for FFS, and then have SRS; I would watch trans documentaries, and see the magical transitions, and my heart would ache, and I was happy for them. I knew that my turn would come, because I was doing what I needed to do to make it happen. And everyone else can make their dreams become reality also; just make a plan and put in the work [emoji4]
I'm very lucky that I make around 70k a year which does make things a lot easier! So I'm for sure saving now in case I'm a year or two I think I need ffs. Electro currently under way.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply anything about you, but I responded to the post from Allison S, since she mentioned the financial aspect of transition; and there are a lot of trans people who are struggling financially, so I was offering some advice and hope.
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 10, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply anything about you, but I responded to the post from Allison S, since she mentioned the financial aspect of transition; and there are a lot of trans people who are struggling financially, so I was offering some advice and hope.
Don't apologize I think it was great advice!! It's definitely easy to think hrt is just some rocket or roller coaster you strap yourself into that rockets you into passing eventually. It's a lot more like a mountain where you have to climb every painful foot all the way to the top step by step. Your so right this is on me to fight for who I want to be!
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Your beanie is so cute! Where did you get it?
...stares are going to happen, kids are the worst at it. It's tough to take that sort of attention, especially when your used to blending into the crowd. I wish that part of transition were easier.
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In lots of other threads here it seems that a reoccurring theme is being stared at... unless one has unlimited self-confidence and unlimited self-assurance... being stared at can be a heart wrenching event for sure.
Why are they staring?... are they reading me as a non-passable female?...is my slip showing? ...are my nipples showing? .... or are they just being rude people... men do it, women do it. One should just do their best, keep smiling and have a happy countenance and shrug it off, don't let it destroy your transitioning endeavors. A big smile and a happy demeanor are most attractive to everyone who looks at a person.
I went full time November 15, 2015. That was 2.25 years ago. Before that I was part time. I have been on hrt for 4.75 years. Somewhere along the way the stairs stopped and I became comfortable with being me. I think I realized it was going to be ok and relaxed. I have also had a lot of work done over and he years.
You are doing fine and after a few years on hrt and expressing you will look back on the experience and be glad you walked the path.
Courtney, you look great. But I do want to say that I think it's a positive thing that you acknowledge your vulnerability, first it will make your skin thicker, and second it'll definitely help other girls who are starting or aren't full time to realize that this is a difficult but normal part of the process and it happens to all of us even the most beautiful ones.
Hugs!
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Quote from: Courtney.lane408 on February 10, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
It's definitely because I'm visibly trans but thanks though :) I'm trying to be okay with it. I also post flattering pictures on here that don't really show why people are staring. But I'm trying to stay positive about being able to pass since it's only 25 days on hrt. This is a more realistic picture with no wig or makeup on other than a little eye liner. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/12aa30701fcae23442c0269d1fab63ae.jpg)
Hun, you are outrageously cute, with or without the wig! You totally pass in this photo.
If you catch someone staring, make eye contact and give them a great big smile, so they know that you've caught them staring. The smile says, "I know you don't have the balls to say what's on your mind!" It will intimidate them and they will look away, embarassed.
I guess we each have to develop coping mechanisms that help in times like these.
Do though keep your spirits up overall, try not to be down or discouraged for too long.
You will have many fabulous interactions, and you are young. Enjoy your times ahead.
Chrissy
OP, you are NOT visibly trans. You look like a normal woman to me and I wouldn't give you a second thought if I passed you on the street. (And I mean that in the best possible way lol.)
But yes, it does get easier. I guess? I dunno, I've been gawked at for one reason or another my whole life and I learned to develop a certain kind of attitude that made that stuff roll off my back. Granted, it's was easier to pull off when I was a teenager, but the lessons I learned about the different kinds of spines one can grow still serve me now.
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 11, 2018, 07:31:25 AM
Hun, you are outrageously cute, with or without the wig! You totally pass in this photo.
If you catch someone staring, make eye contact and give them a great big smile, so they know that you've caught them staring. The smile says, "I know you don't have the balls to say what's on your mind!" It will intimidate them and they will look away, embarassed.
AGREED... yep, eye contact and a big smile are your best defense against the dimwits... men or women!!
I think you look good in all your pictures. You look quite passable to me. I would have to agree with Cindy that people are staring because you're pretty. Being trans we always just assume someone is outing us when they stare but that's not always true . people stare for any number of reasons. I've been stared and gawked at my entire life. No one likes to be stared at. But it's gotten easier for me. As mean as it was, my mom's advice helped a little. Once when we were at the mall I had said something about people staring at me. My mom said " well what do you expect? You're not normal looking and people are going to stare. I suggest you get used to it". Once I was out with my brother and this guy was staring holes through me. My brother walked up to him and asked him why he kept staring at me and hadn't he ever seen an albino girl before. The guy said it was because he had never seen anyone like me. he said he wasn't staring because I was albino, he was staring because he thought I was beautiful and looked almost supernatural. I could have done without the supernatural comment but having him say that made it dawn on me that when someone stared at me it wasn't automatically for negative reasons. People still stare all the time but I always just smile at them. Usually they smile back. I can't know for sure exactly why someone is staring at me but I'm not going to stress out trying to figure out why. I just assume they are staring for positive reasons.
"I can't know for sure exactly why someone is staring at me but I'm not going to stress out trying to figure out why. I just assume they are staring for positive reasons."
That is a good mindset Julia. "...For positive reasons."
Chrissy
Honestly, you look ok and in a year you will look more than ok, great!
I don't think that anyone really clocked you as trans, I have a hard time of figuring why someone would laugh to you. Perhaps they were laughing to something else....or just laughing to everybody, I mean there are some strange people out there :)
Some guys at the mall always seem to laugh at women...god knows what they are talking about...
Wait you aren't CIS? :)
No honestly you look amazing and very well passable. Although I would like to use the word "blending" in.
It will take time and one day you will not even notice it anymore. For myself I started to notice the "quiet staring" change to "calling me Mem" when the doors were opened. :)
Many great replies already, just give yourself some time dear.
Hugs Erin
I only have one days experience of being the woman I am in public. My avatar is of me two days ago on my maiden excursion in the real world. The two transgender women I was with gave me the support I needed to understand that most people don't notice or if they do, they keep it to themselves. I noticed people looking at everyone not just us. It's natural to want to fit in society. Trans folk are part of society now.
When I see someone covered with tattoos I want to stare and take it all in, but as a small child my parents taught me values, and one of those values was that it is impolite to stare, so I just can't look at the tattoos too long before looking away. I jave a question for forum members with a lot of tattoos; how do you feel about people checking out your tattoos; should I ask someone with a lot of tattoos if it is ok for me to look at them?
Okay I'll be honest with your wig/hat they're probably staring because you don't see that hair color everyday! It actually looks like it could be your real hair color so people are naturally curious
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Quote from: Jessica on February 11, 2018, 09:56:35 AM
I only have one days experience of being the woman I am in public. My avatar is of me two days ago on my maiden excursion in the real world. The two transgender women I was with gave me the support I needed to understand that most people don't notice or if they do, they keep it to themselves. I noticed people looking at everyone not just us. It's natural to want to fit in society. Trans folk are part of society now.
People naturally look at other people, so I would feel bad if I didn't even get a glance. Some trans women are under the impression that if they dress down they will blend in better, and go unnoticed, but I don't think that is the case, because most people (especially women) notice everyone in their space. I mentioned that I don't stare, but I do take sort of a mental snap shot of someone that grabs my attention for whatever reason, and most others do the same thing, unless they were raised by wolves!
I have a shiba inu puppy, and she looks like a little wolf; when she misbehaves I tell her that she was raised better than that, and if she acts like that in public people will think she was raised by wolves😀
I'm a heterosexual cisgender man with long hair; getting stared at comes with the territory. Not so much here in the US South as lots of good ol boys have long hair, but up North it's a different story. Sometimes I stare back. People HATE that. Sometimes I give them the finger. Toddlers stare the most but I get that. My long hair doesn't fit into the neat little boxed they are being taught to put men and women into, so I just smile back.
What ticks me off the most is that nobody EVER stares at my female alter. Well, not counting the guys who are checking out her behind. Same body. Same hair. The double standard makes me shakes my head.
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 11, 2018, 09:57:36 AM
When I see someone covered with tattoos I want to stare and take it all in, but as a small child my parents taught me values, and one of those values was that it is impolite to stare, so I just can't look at the tattoos too long before looking away. I jave a question for forum members with a lot of tattoos; how do you feel about people checking out your tattoos; should I ask someone with a lot of tattoos if it is ok for me to look at them?
I don't have any tattoos but my boyfriend does. He doesn't mind if someone looks at them. Actually it's mostly other guys who look at them and comment. Women usually just look at them but say nothing. He doesn't have a sleeve tattoo like my brother but he has a couple of sharp ones on his forearms. When people check them out he will even lift his shirt so they can see the ones under his shirt. He has large tattoos over his chest and back. The first time I saw them it was a shock. Personally I find a guy with tattoos very hot but it was thinking about the time it took to do them and how much it must have hurt that shocked me. I did once think about getting a small butterfly tattoo on my wrist when I was 16. My dad was already annoyed with my brother for starting his sleeve and when I asked him if I could get the butterfly tattoo he told me absolutely not and if I came home with any tattoos he would remove them with a cheese grater. LOL. But now I have no desire to get any ink.
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 11, 2018, 09:57:36 AMI jave a question for forum members with a lot of tattoos; how do you feel about people checking out your tattoos; should I ask someone with a lot of tattoos if it is ok for me to look at them?
It's definitely part of what you sign up for. Or, conversely, if you don't want to stand out, then you probably shouldn't get full sleeves lol. (Unless you're in Portland, then NOT having ink is weird lol.)
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 11, 2018, 10:08:22 AM
People naturally look at other people, so I would feel bad if I didn't even get a glance. Some trans women are under the impression that if they dress down they will blend in better, and go unnoticed, but I don't think that is the case, because most people (especially women) notice everyone in their space. I mentioned that I don't stare, but I do take sort of a mental snap shot of someone that grabs my attention for whatever reason, and most others do the same thing, unless they were raised by wolves!
I have a shiba inu puppy, and she looks like a little wolf; when she misbehaves I tell her that she was raised better than that, and if she acts like that in public people will think she was raised by wolves😀
I had a little white toy poodle and when I had him groomed they always put blue ribbons on him and painted his nails blue. Once when I was walking him this guy commented how cute he looked only he called her she. After I told him he was a boy he said " but he has bows and nail polish. I hope dogs don't experience humiliation. Poor little guy". LOL.
Quote from: BT04 on February 11, 2018, 10:33:13 AM
It's definitely part of what you sign up for. Or, conversely, if you don't want to stand out, then you probably shouldn't get full sleeves lol. (Unless you're in Portland, then NOT having ink is weird lol.)
Lol, isn't the Portland motto "keep it weird" or something like that?
Quote from: BT04 on February 11, 2018, 10:33:13 AM
It's definitely part of what you sign up for. Or, conversely, if you don't want to stand out, then you probably shouldn't get full sleeves lol. (Unless you're in Portland, then NOT having ink is weird lol.)
LOL. I have seen a Portland (Oregon) wall that said, "Keep Portland Weird."
I had 14 years of being started at in Asia for being tall and white (pre transition) being called all sorts of names because they didn't know I spoke the language. You grow a thick skin and eventually it means nothing. :)
okay so I think its safe to say most of us have been there and this might be a broken record but just letting you know my thoughts.
For me I constantly think I'm getting clocked in the moment because people act weird sometimes. but the truth is I can't tell what a person is thinking by the look they're giving me and at times when I was 110% sure someone clocked me it was just a guy thinking.... well lets just say he got vocal about it. They could be thinking jealously,admiration,lust, thinking they know you or about whipped cream... the possibilities are endless. I find more often than not its my insecurities that I project onto them.
I also found that what you wear greatly influences how much and to what degree people stare at you. If you are wearing a red dress with stiletto heals and a bold makeup look people are going to stare more than if you wear more neutral colors and conservative clothing(there still gonna look regardless). I found when I was first getting use to it that a conservative look would help me out because I didn't want people to look... I just wanted to go get some soda or tp:)
I guess my point is to not worry to much about how people look at you cuz like all the other lovely people said here you got a cute face and people like to look at cute things:), with or without makeup!
I have often told my partner that I am being stared at... She said I am just be paranoia. But she then took notice and its true.. People, partially females, stare at me as I walk past them at the shopping centre. I wear male clothes nothing special, nothing to suggest I am transgender, yet people stare at me. They have always stared at me.. I look up and there they are, staring at me.. I have no idea why... But, if I see a great looking girl, I too stare at them.. LOL, wishful thinking I looked like them.. But I am not a great looking person, I am just average looking.. I had more obvious staring when I was teen, by boys.. Since I looked female... but not quite.. Perhaps I confused them.. People are often drawn to those that are different. Perhaps that's it.. At least they are not nasty towards me so I have learnt to ignore it.. But I do find it strange..
TR...
Are you tall for a woman? Because I've noticed people staring at tall women in general and commenting on it aloud. Sometimes I think it's just a case of "blimey, she's tall" surprised, and others it might be that they are more aware of trans people now and are trying to spot them in tall woman or short men, etc.
Being stared at gets easier if you do certain things to improve your confidence. People used to stare at me all the time, way before any transition and I didn't go out of my way to look masculine or anything. I figured it might have been because of the way I was carrying myself in public sometimes, people picked up on it and told me. I guess I was stressed out and expressed it with a death glare. But the same can be said for someone who looks nervous, excited, and so on. If I see someone who's body language is a bit different from everyone else's I'll check them out too.
Quote from: Kylo on February 13, 2018, 11:02:01 AM
Are you tall for a woman? Because I've noticed people staring at tall women in general and commenting on it aloud. Sometimes I think it's just a case of "blimey, she's tall" surprised, and others it might be that they are more aware of trans people now and are trying to spot them in tall woman or short men, etc.
Being stared at gets easier if you do certain things to improve your confidence. People used to stare at me all the time, way before any transition and I didn't go out of my way to look masculine or anything. I figured it might have been because of the way I was carrying myself in public sometimes, people picked up on it and told me. I guess I was stressed out and expressed it with a death glare. But the same can be said for someone who looks nervous, excited, and so on. If I see someone who's body language is a bit different from everyone else's I'll check them out too.
Yeah unfortunately I'm 6'0" :( but I swear my hips are getting wider so I'm hoping for an inch or so of shrinkage maybe? Girl can dream haha.
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The stares? They haven't gone away for me yet.. But it's my own fault really. I could probably blend in better if I wanted to. But I like showing a bit of skin while I'm still young lol
Ok on a serious note though, when I first went full time, I got looked at for other reasons. My hair wasn't long enough yet, my makeup skills were horrid, my outfits looked like they were borrowed from a friend.. Transition is so much more than throwing on a wig and red lipstick and calling yourself a woman LOL We have to go figure ourselves out. It takes time. You're looking great girl. Own it. Let them stare.. I'm sure it's 50/50 on whether they're just jealous anyhow. Go have fun. :)
Not for me it hasn't. I thought that it did when I first went full time, but then the stares stopped. I got comfortable being invisible unfortunately but now the last 6 months the stares are getting worse again. I am working at it but it was just a week ago that it really had me freaking out. In a way, for me, it is worse now. Many people have that 'trans is a deformity' attitude, it's was blessing because it kept some people from staring to avoid being rude. I seem to have lost that, no one minds being rude at all.
I guess that it is a big shrug, I don't know. It should and does I guess..
Okay, it's like this. You got this. You do, you might not know it now but it will come with time on hormones and work. It just happens. As I am learning now though, people stare and we can't read their minds to know why, so somehow we have to manage with that. I don't seem to have it down yet but I will. 😊 It's a small price to pay to be able to live my life the way I do now, don't you think?
I hope things get easier for you soon.
Hugs
I haven't really noticed but I'm sure they are there. I'm 6'3" so even if I'm passing (probably not) I'm sure to get the stares that tall women get. Pretty sure my height is why I don't notice. I knew I would stand out no matter how I looked so I had to convince myself that I didn't care if others looked at me and what they thought of me in order to start being in public as myself.
I am surprised that I have yet to run in to any ->-bleeped-<- that needs to make a snide remark or whatever towards me. I've been full time since August when I clued work in, and was out everywhere but work for a couple months before that.
Leads me to believe that most people don't give a rat's ass and aren't as ->-bleeped-<-ty to people in person as they might vote in my area of the country. And just maybe I'm blending in better than I thought.
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Quote from: TonyaW on February 16, 2018, 06:57:17 AM
I haven't really noticed but I'm sure they are there. I'm 6'3" so even if I'm passing (probably not) I'm sure to get the stares that tall women get. Pretty sure my height is why I don't notice. I knew I would stand out no matter how I looked so I had to convince myself that I didn't care if others looked at me and what they thought of me in order to start being in public as myself.
I am surprised that I have yet to run in to any ->-bleeped-<- that needs to make a snide remark or whatever towards me. I've been full time since August when I clued work in, and was out everywhere but work for a couple months before that.
Leads me to believe that most people don't give a rat's ass and aren't as ->-bleeped-<-ty to people in person as they might vote in my area of the country. And just maybe I'm blending in better than I thought.
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Good chance you just don't notice...
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